Bug#591287: vlc from experimental cannot be build with the curent unstable version (I even wonder how it can have been produced)
Hello, Why are you highjacking a bug report about libmatroska for a bug on vlc ?! To report a new bug use 'reportbug' Also the subject field is not meant to contain the whole bug report. - Message d'origine - Normally its a critical bug when you cannot rebuild... It isn't mandatory to be able to build experimental package on unstable. So it's not a bug. Pbuilder by example is able to pick the needed build-deps from experimental. And for a simple dpkg-buildpackage it's your job to make sure the build-deps are satisfied. -- xtophe ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#591287: vlc from experimental cannot be build with the curent unstable version (I even wonder how it can have been produced)
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 02:03:24PM +0200, Eric Valette wrote: Normally its a critical bug when you cannot rebuild... True. It is a so-called FTBFS (Failure to build from source). The appropriate severity should be tagged no matter the branch the package is located in. And to address your wondering in subject (please always include full message in body of emails, to ensure they get fully noticed): a package targeted experimental should be built against unstable + experimental packages, nothing else! - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#591287: vlc from experimental cannot be build with the curent unstable version (I even wonder how it can have been produced)
On 08/20/2010 02:36 PM, Christophe Mutricy wrote: Hello, Why are you highjacking a bug report about libmatroska for a bug on vlc ?! I'm reporting that with current availble matroska package in unstable+experimental, you cannot build experimental vlc and yes I did a build-dep but since matroska 0.8.1 is the only available version... I hijack yes maybe because vlc should not have entered experimental unless libmastroaka was leaving the new queue. -- eric ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bug#591287: vlc from experimental cannot be build with the curent unstable version (I even wonder how it can have been produced)
Am 20.08.2010 14:46, schrieb Eric Valette: I'm reporting that with current availble matroska package in unstable+experimental, you cannot build experimental vlc and yes I did a build-dep but since matroska 0.8.1 is the only available version... Experimental isn't a consistent distribution. Packages from experimental don't necessarily build with all the other packages from experimental. I think the culprit here is rather the API mismatch between libebml (1.0.0 already in exp.) and libmatroska (1.0.0 targeted at exp. currently waiting in NEW), which isn't vlc's fault, though. I hijack yes maybe because vlc should not have entered experimental unless libmastroaka was leaving the new queue. Nothing keeps vlc from entering experimental as long as its build-dependencies are satisfied in unstable. - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#591287: vlc from experimental cannot be build with the curent unstable version (I even wonder how it can have been produced)
On 08/20/2010 02:37 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 02:03:24PM +0200, Eric Valette wrote: Normally its a critical bug when you cannot rebuild... True. It is a so-called FTBFS (Failure to build from source). The appropriate severity should be tagged no matter the branch the package is located in. And to address your wondering in subject (please always include full message in body of emails, to ensure they get fully noticed): a package targeted experimental should be built against unstable + experimental packages, nothing else! I know. But the critical FTBS should be on vlc experimental and also it should depend on the proper matroska version that is still in the new queue! -- eric ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#591287: vlc from experimental cannot be build with the curent unstable version (I even wonder how it can have been produced)
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 02:51:34PM +0200, Eric Valette wrote: On 08/20/2010 02:37 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 02:03:24PM +0200, Eric Valette wrote: Normally its a critical bug when you cannot rebuild... True. It is a so-called FTBFS (Failure to build from source). The appropriate severity should be tagged no matter the branch the package is located in. And to address your wondering in subject (please always include full message in body of emails, to ensure they get fully noticed): a package targeted experimental should be built against unstable + experimental packages, nothing else! I know. But the critical FTBS should be on vlc experimental and also it should depend on the proper matroska version that is still in the new queue! Do I understand you correctly that the package currently in experimental was built against a version of matroska not available in Debian unstable nor Debian experimental? If so, that package is a BAD build!!! Just imagine one scenario out of many: That new Matroska package gets rejected from NEW due to a licensing problem. But we already shipped binary code containing same licensing SILENTLY in experimental. That is BAD!!! DON'T DO OFFICIAL BUILDS AGAINST NON-DEBIAN-RELEASED PACKAGES. EVER! - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bug#591287: vlc from experimental cannot be build with the curent unstable version (I even wonder how it can have been produced)
Am 20.08.2010 14:51, schrieb Eric Valette: I know. But the critical FTBS should be on vlc experimental and also it should depend on the proper matroska version that is still in the new queue! Try to build again with libebml from unstable and don't use the one from experimental, which is incompatible with current libmatroska from unstable. - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bug#591287: vlc from experimental cannot be build with the curent unstable version (I even wonder how it can have been produced)
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 02:51:34PM +0200, Eric Valette wrote: I know. But the critical FTBS should be on vlc experimental and also it should depend on the proper matroska version that is still in the new queue! On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 15:04:13 (CEST), Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Do I understand you correctly that the package currently in experimental was built against a version of matroska not available in Debian unstable nor Debian experimental? If so, that package is a BAD build!!! Reread again. It seems that Eric is suggesting to do exactly that and the package in experimental did not use out of archive packages. If it did, then I'd appreciate a seperate and clearly written bugreport. -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bug#591287: vlc from experimental cannot be build with the curent unstable version (I even wonder how it can have been produced)
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 03:21:09PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 02:51:34PM +0200, Eric Valette wrote: I know. But the critical FTBS should be on vlc experimental and also it should depend on the proper matroska version that is still in the new queue! On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 15:04:13 (CEST), Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Do I understand you correctly that the package currently in experimental was built against a version of matroska not available in Debian unstable nor Debian experimental? If so, that package is a BAD build!!! Reread again. It seems that Eric is suggesting to do exactly that and the package in experimental did not use out of archive packages. If it did, then I'd appreciate a seperate and clearly written bugreport. Make sense now. Sorry for shouting. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
