On September 20, 2009 10:29:14 Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote:
On Sunday 20 September 2009, 14:10 Giulio Camuffo wrote:
I know that that functionality belongs in a Containment, but since
containments in containments are not supported i had to use an Applet.
Hmmare you sure that
On September 14, 2009 16:45:35 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On September 14, 2009, Chani wrote:
also, in moving i noticed the screensaver shell still tried to include
and use appletbrowser.h, i really wonder why it was still building.
now those parts are just commented out but a port is badly
On September 15, 2009 10:45:13 Marco Martin wrote:
On Tuesday 15 September 2009, Chani wrote:
On September 14, 2009 16:45:35 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On September 14, 2009, Chani wrote:
also, in moving i noticed the screensaver shell still tried to
include and use appletbrowser.h, i
- proof-reading by native speaker
- fact-checks (who did what)
- spell-checking andn correct attribution of names
- what else did I forget?
I plan to publish the article on Tuesday and will poke the press a bit to
write about it, so please be quick by providing feedback, fresh news is
On September 2, 2009 01:04:08 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On September 2, 2009, Michael Rudolph wrote:
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 18:29, Aaron J. Seigoase...@kde.org wrote:
works for me. before 10am would be ambitious. so perhaps 10am UTC?
(which would be 11:00 here in Randa)
Hi Aaron,
if
On August 31, 2009 20:04:37 Federico Kereki wrote:
Hi!
I was thinking about developing two plasmoids, and wondered whether the
JavaScript bindings/libraries/whatever were up to this:
- a RSS news reader: needs to be able to connect to a remote server
(Ajax), get XML data, process
On August 25, 2009 08:51:54 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Tuesday 25 August 2009, Charles Abela wrote:
plasma functionality is not. For example rt-clicking on the virtual
desktop does not popup the menu to manage widgets.
could be related to the new ContextActions plugins?
thiago managed to
* way for a widget to advertise that it should receive keyboard focus
when clicked and have PanelView grab focus in that case
neglecting for a while how actually give focus to the panel, api-wise on
plasma side could work as this:
Applet::addFocusWidget(QGraphicsWidget *)
it's
On August 24, 2009 10:12:58 John Layt wrote:
On Monday 24 August 2009 08:56:57 Petri Damstén wrote:
Moonrise/set patch using new TimeSource in time dataengine. This also
changes all sun and moon phase calculation code so same code can be used
for all the calculations. This is too late for
Btw, when we arrive at Randa, how should we proceed ??? Ask someone for
Mario's house ? ;)
a very good question. I'll be getting on an airplane in a couple of days, my
phone will not work when I'm in europe, and I'd really like to know this stuff
before I go. :)
also, I can buy the train
skipped reviewboard if
you wanted :)
- Chani
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On August 21, 2009 13:29:17 Marco Martin wrote:
On Friday 21 August 2009, Emdek wrote:
Hello
As we talked yesterday on IRC, on notmart request I'll now describe how
works (to allow to discuss that on Tokamak) this quite simply hack,
workaround, only sensible method (;-)) or name it
On August 18, 2009 02:25:06 Darknight wrote:
I'm starting right now to look into plasma, my language of choice would be
python, which I'm learning. I can mostly understand C++ but I never felt
bold enough to actually learn and code with it.
Now on to the problem. I have a concept for a
around end of august can go to around 10°C or less
so yeah, we can find 10c as well 30c :p
sounds like summer to me. :)
so, I may need both jeans and shorts. but no woolly sweaters.
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On August 12, 2009 08:04:00 Mario Fux wrote:
Good morning
Here some dates or proposals to Tokamak3.
As I'm not the party guy I asked my brother to guide us through the
nightlife of Zermatt. I know I know, you guys would find your way through
yourselves but my brother will come with us
On August 12, 2009 15:20:18 Riccardo Iaconelli wrote:
hoi!
since for the next tokamak we will need a collaborative document
editor, and someone proposed kobby, i took the liberty of setting up
one infinote server.
please feel free to test it and tell me if anything bad happens, it's
on
On August 11, 2009 06:23:44 Jacopo De Simoi wrote:
Taking inspiration from a number of wishes on bko i've come up with a
trivial patch for plasmoidviewer which adds a commandline option which
sets the background of the window to be translucent. This in principle
allows to have a plasmoid
http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1251/#comment1304
why are all these image server classes being cast to themselves?
- Chani
On 2009-08-09 21:08:23, Michal Dutkiewicz wrote:
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On August 10, 2009 00:13:41 Patrick Aljord wrote:
This is kind of unrelated but wouldn't it be a good thing to turn the
upload backends into a plasma data engine? I can see other plasmoids
making use of uploading pics and even kde apps like ksnapshot but I
have no idea whether kde apps can
http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1253/#comment1312
just a little detail... using [] will create the key if it doesn't exist,
so generally using .value(foo) is cheaper. probably doesn't matter in this
case, just thought I'd point it out.
- Chani
On 2009-08-10 10:54:19, Marco Martin wrote
On August 10, 2009 08:28:47 Chani wrote:
On August 10, 2009 00:13:41 Patrick Aljord wrote:
This is kind of unrelated but wouldn't it be a good thing to turn the
upload backends into a plasma data engine? I can see other plasmoids
making use of uploading pics and even kde apps like ksnapshot
On August 9, 2009 12:42:30 Patrick Aljord wrote:
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Chani chan...@gmail.com wrote:
kompare won't load the diff for some reason...
I used the techbase tutorial here
http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute/Send_Patches#Creating_a_Simple_File_Patc
h and used that command
/#comment1302
looks like you deleted this by accident
- Chani
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On August 8, 2009 09:40:28 Patrick Aljord wrote:
Hey all,
This is my first patch, it just adds posting private picture to
imagebin.ca from the pastebin plasmoid as the title says, it needs to
be applied from kdeplasma-addons, hope it works for you.
Cheers,
Pat
thanks for the patch :)
On August 8, 2009 18:41:32 Patrick Aljord wrote:
Thanks to all for your comments. I haven't coded anything in C++ for
at least 3 years so I guess it shows :)
I'll send the patch with your suggestions tomorrow, in the meantime
here is the screenshot http://imagebin.ca/view/fyaoR7T.html
hmmm.
On August 6, 2009 23:46:31 David Baron wrote:
On Thursday 06 August 2009 17:31:58 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
On Thursday 06 August 2009 16:11:06 David Baron wrote:
The previewer is a plasmoid that I can use to view a file by dragging
and dropping on it. Why would I want to see this choice
Use-cases:
- When John switches to the /work/ activity, he wants the favourites in
Kickoff/KMenu/Lancelot/Raptor/... to be the applications related to work.
+1 In Raptor we can also use the launch count/database per activity...
Btw, a bit offtopic, but shall we share favourites
So, here is what might be the minimum required to represent
ActivityContext: - Activity name (given by user)
- Activity Type
what would you do with an activity type that you couldn't do with just the
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On August 6, 2009 03:53:10 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday 06 August 2009, 潘卫平(Peter Pan) wrote:
In KDE 3 , it was possible to set a wallpaper by dragging a picture from
konqueror. And I implement this feature in Plasma::Containment.
i don't think this is really the right place for this
On August 6, 2009 19:46:13 潘卫平(Peter Pan) wrote:
Chani 写道:
On August 6, 2009 03:53:10 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday 06 August 2009, 潘卫平(Peter Pan) wrote:
In KDE 3 , it was possible to set a wallpaper by dragging a picture
from konqueror. And I implement this feature in Plasma
On August 5, 2009 05:04:31 Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote:
On Wednesday 05 August 2009, 08:41 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
I've been asked by a publisher if I knew someone who would want to write
an article about Plasmoid development. As I won't find the time to do it
myself, maybe someone else is
/containment.cpp, line 253
http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1195/diff/1/?file=9418#file9418line253
keys() is slow. use a proper iterator. will get rid of the call to
value() on the next line as well.
right. I think I've done this elsewhere too.
- Chani
just a reminder, guidelines for moving stuff into kdereview are here:
http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/SVN_Guidelines#Stage_2:_Stable
please remember the part about notifying kde-core-devel, or at least cc kde-
i18n-doc; translators don't want to subscribe to every mailing list to know
when
so I found something weird in the tasks dataengine.
else if (operation == activateRaiseOrMaximize) {
m_source-getTask()-activateRaiseOrIconify();
somehow Iconify becomes Maximize o.0
is it too late to change this?
who's actually using this engine? (not the taskbar, it seems)
On August 3, 2009 18:43:03 Chani wrote:
so I found something weird in the tasks dataengine.
else if (operation == activateRaiseOrMaximize) {
m_source-getTask()-activateRaiseOrIconify();
somehow Iconify becomes Maximize o.0
is it too late to change this?
who's actually
anyways, I found another issue: it doesn't dismiss the dashboard if it's
up. I forget how one does that, and I don't know if it can be done from an
engine (but if it can't, maybe that's a bug).
:/ the dashboard isn't even dismissed if I alt-tab. I can type in a skype
window while I see only
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http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1200/s/162/
Context Menu through an applet
http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1200/s/163/
Context Menu config UI
http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1200/s/164/
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* post-lunch walk outdoors, during which we can discuss design and
implementation issues in natural surroundings. we're creating a more
organic interface, what better way to do this than spend some time in the
real organic interface: nature. also helps to get people away from the
computer
Example of their success: Clicking a link in kmail, for example, will spawn
that as a tab in an existing chrome browser if one is running. Caveat--if
one died and is still an existing process, one must kill it before chrome
will work correctly. Beta.
that's got nothing to do with separate
On July 26, 2009 12:10:25 David Baron wrote:
On Sunday 26 July 2009 21:20:55 Chani wrote:
Example of their success: Clicking a link in kmail, for example, will
spawn that as a tab in an existing chrome browser if one is running.
Caveat--if one died and is still an existing process, one
so, me and aaron discussed this last week, and then I promptly forgot all
about writing any of it down. ;)
it makes a lot more sense when you see the mockups...
I'll try and re-explain it in my own words, hopefully it'll be clearer when
seen from 1 POV :)
basically, the idea is to replace
- Chani
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This is an attempt to fix the pager applet for vertical panels.
There are currently two problems:
1. The configuration file always contains the number of rows. This is
shared between all pager applets. This makes it basically impossible to
have a pager on both a vertical and a horizontal
one thing i'm not clear on - are we supposed to be arriving on the
28th or starting on the 28th? and the same for the end date...
btw, if people who have already booked post their flight #s maybe we
can get some people on the same flights :)
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:50 AM, Mario
On July 23, 2009 10:49:42 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday 23 July 2009, David Baron wrote:
Kmix -- why would I want to control that from krunner. I think that the
panel applet does the trick more than adequately. Would I really want to
put up krunner and type in mute or volume=75?
On July 23, 2009 06:46:32 Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote:
On Thursday 23 July 2009, 06:45 Jacopo De Simoi wrote:
I've also the following (random) ideas:
I would love to have an assistant runner where I just type the name of
the Qt class and it gives me back assistant on the exact page I need
- Basket Notes - Quickly add a note to the current basket. I had this idea
in KDE3; unfortunately the kde4 version of Basket hasn't received much love
(as far as I know).
I've been meaning to try out zanshin, which seems to come with a runner. I'm
not sure how its features compare to basket,
it seems the costs for zurich and geneva are the same. is there any reason to
pick one airport over the other, or should I flip a coin? ;)
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On July 23, 2009 20:10:04 Patrick Aljord wrote:
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Chanichan...@gmail.com wrote:
it seems the costs for zurich and geneva are the same. is there any
reason to pick one airport over the other, or should I flip a coin? ;)
Geneva seems to be closer
crud. I just
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Artur Souza
(MoRpHeUz)morph...@openbossa.org wrote:
On Wednesday 22 July 2009, 14:23 Celeste Lyn Paul wrote:
So to be clear, it would be ~1200 EUR (~600EUR/person) more to get more
people?
Ok, let's do this the proper way and using Mario's data hehe :)
+
celeste, I think you meant to send this to plasma-devel, not panel-devel. :)
I'm not sure who's still subscribed to both, so I'll forward it on.
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Date: July 21, 2009
From: Celeste Lyn Paul cele...@kde.org
To:
no scaling issues) and another view below to be populated by the
WM groupings
I think I need a mockup.
* windows in the groupings could be 'tagged' as per the suggestions from
Chani et al by pressing a tag windows button in the activities selector
and then clicking on windows in the groups below
* Why do we have to hold the alt key while switching? Can't we break with
the concept? (get rid of the keyboard grab) - here I need input from the
usability experts. Would it be ok to break with such a concept although all
other plattforms use it? What could be a better solution than
On July 16, 2009 11:25:48 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
please keep the other mailinglists in CC as this is probably the only issue
realy relevant for usability group
Am Donnerstag 16 Juli 2009 20:02:32 schrieb Jacopo De Simoi:
On Thursday 16 July 2009 19:32:14 Chani wrote:
* Why do we have
On July 14, 2009 23:00:22 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Friday 10 July 2009, Chani wrote:
on sunday me, notmart and ruphy came up with some crazy ideas for the
ZUI. here are the notes... better late than never ;)
zoom 2 (fully zoomed out):
-the containment is too small to realyl interact
On July 14, 2009 22:41:32 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Friday 10 July 2009, Chani wrote:
what I wanted is window tagging.
do windows live long enough for tagging to work?
mine live for weeks. they'd live for months if I wasn't recompiling kde all
the time. is this not common?
also, I'd like
The terms Zoom Out and Zoom In are presented to the user. I wonder if
this perhaps exposes the mechanism rather than the action(s) the user would
like to perform. What distinct functionality does each of the zoom level
provide? Or another way to put it might be, what activity would the
on sunday me, notmart and ruphy came up with some crazy ideas for the ZUI.
here are the notes... better late than never ;)
zoom 2 (fully zoomed out):
-the containment is too small to realyl interact with, so put the toolbox over
top.
problem: on small devices the toolbox could be bigger than
so I had a crazy idea, and discussed it with lubos and notmart, and completely
forgot to mention it at the bof. I brought it up again today and we ended up
with some other ideas too.
what I wanted is window tagging. instead of virtual desktops and tabs (tabs
seems to be a workaround for
On July 10, 2009 13:33:44 Emdek wrote:
On 10-07-2009 at 22:28:10 Chani chan...@gmail.com wrote:
so I had a crazy idea, and discussed it with lubos and notmart, and
completely
forgot to mention it at the bof. I brought it up again today and we
ended up
with some other ideas too.
what
please remember to reply to *both* lists. :)
On July 10, 2009 13:39:24 Alexander Shenoy wrote:
I like this idea. It actually solves a problem that I have been having
forever. Opening a window on the wrong desktop and then having to move it
to another desktop. Or wishing I could have a window
ok, we had our bof, I have semicomplete notes that I'll type up tonight.
anyone else who took notes, please add them, as I'm sure I missed a few spots.
as some people will be going out to see the island this afternoon, and others
aren't willing to come to the uni (it's less hot today! really!),
at the hotel.
Chani and Marco: is it possible to have the bof here at the hotel? do
we have time to ask the kwin team about this change ?
uhm it's a wee bit late to be trying to change the schedule! and you
didn't cc kwin, either, so the kwin guy doesn't know!
i imagine people will be stumbling
ok, it's now 11am thursday.
On 7/5/09, Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) morph...@openbossa.org wrote:
On Sunday 05 July 2009, 06:10 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
Friday? Yes I have a problem with that as I will be back in Germany on
friday
As we have the whole week, maybe it's a good idea to bring this
so I know plasma people are going to end up talking lots this week, but do we
want to have an offiicial bof session? last time I looked at the bof wiki page
it was half-empty.
I was going to add plasma to it, but between the wiki being retarded about
logins and the internet being very
On July 4, 2009 09:15:02 Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote:
On Saturday 04 July 2009, 11:39 Chani wrote:
so I know plasma people are going to end up talking lots this week, but
do we want to have an offiicial bof session? last time I looked at the
bof wiki page it was half-empty.
It should
really want to work on mid stuff with morpheuz and finish up the
plasmoid on systray thinghie, uuh but can't think of other stuff
important right now, uh yeah talking about the ZUI, other ideas on
other agenda items?
well, those are more plasma-only things, perhaps we can do those after the
Anyway, I made a little mockup, of the configuration dialog, that I
seemed to be able to grok much easier. What do you think?
http://skitch.com/michaelrudolph/bsrix/configuredesktopactions
I spent a couple of weeks working on the dialog and rewrote it several times;
I need to work on
://reviewboard.kde.org/r/926/#comment892
that if statement is getting awfully long. perhaps for the sake of
readability you could split it up a bit with a bool or two? :)
- Chani
On 2009-07-02 09:15:41, Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote
On June 30, 2009 05:09:21 L Pierre wrote:
Hi,
Is it viable and/or a reasonable rfe to add a setShortcut() method/member
fucntion to the Plasma::IconWidget class?
I'm using Plasma::IconWidget as a button in Plasma. Plasma::IconWidget does
not have nativeWidget property or members to use say
can those who can make it tomorrow at 15:00 UTC please rsvp to this email.
those can not, let me know if sunday works better.
should be able to make it, not sure for how long. sunday I'll be on a plane :)
I'll mention some stuff here just in case I don't make it to hte meeting.
as for
c++ plasmoids have been setting default size in their constructors, so
it's probably best not to override that :)
AppletPrivate::init is called from Plasma::Applet constructor so it gets
run before actual Applet constructor where resize usually is? I was
thinking that it could be used for
On June 18, 2009 09:15:27 Petri Damstén wrote:
On Saturday 13 June 2009 10:10:44 Petri Damstén wrote:
doh! that was in the wrong init() method (the private vs the public
one) .. it's fixed now :)
I think that X-Plasma-DefaultSize code should be still called from
private init, since
On June 15, 2009 15:00:22 Mario Fux wrote:
Good morning all
As you may now the next plasma meeting will be in Switzerland in the center
of the Alpes and as the proposed dates [1] come nearer the final
organization has to begin.
The meeting dates are now set to:
- From: Friday, August 28th
On June 11, 2009 02:18:05 Petri Damstén wrote:
On Wednesday 10 June 2009 19:03:35 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Wednesday 10 June 2009, Petri Damstén wrote:
But isn't this too late because plasma sets size before init and it
resets the user set size? Is there a proper way to set initial size
here's the beginning of my gsoc project. :)
I've basically copied the wallpaper plugin code to create the ContextAction
plugin. there are two functions that get called: contextEvent and wheelEvent.
right now I'm passing the entire event to the plugin, even though I don't
really want plugins to
On May 29, 2009 08:46:27 Gökmen GÖKSEL wrote:
On Friday 29 May 2009 16:07:45 Marco Martin wrote:
On Friday 29 May 2009, Gökmen GÖKSEL wrote:
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 14:25:18 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Ivan Čukić wrote:
- containment handling
-
PS: By the way, there is a bug about time configuration. By default,
update interval of digital-clock plasmoid is 60 seconds when showSeconds
is false, and 1 second if it's true. If you change time from clock kcm
and showSeconds is false, digital-clock applet refreshes itself 1 minute
On May 28, 2009 11:09:08 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday 28 May 2009, Chani wrote:
PS: By the way, there is a bug about time configuration. By default,
update interval of digital-clock plasmoid is 60 seconds when
showSeconds is false, and 1 second if it's true. If you change time
On May 20, 2009 16:48:01 Amos Kariuki wrote:
Have a question regarding the Plasma::PopupApplet behavior after it
displays a modal dialog. In the current implementation, when a modal
dialog is opened from the Popup applet, the applet automatically gets
hidden in the background while the modal
nope, that's crap. if *you* don't see a huge difference between idle
processor and a movie playing/compile/gamin then it's your hardware that's
shite.
ok, I guess you're right about that ;) this laptop *is* standard mass-produced
crap, and it does kinda suck.
of course that's also
How do you think about weather forecast?
20 years ago they were nearly worthless and the weather man was a character
people made jokes about. there reputation was horrible and nobody took them
seriously.
today they have proper computer models, insane amounts of data and their
predictions
On May 18, 2009 00:40:25 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Monday 18 May 2009, Jared Kells wrote:
She said it's an important feature for her. With no prompting she
explained that it is just an estimate based on what she is doing now.
When reading email the time will be more then if she was watching
ok, let's try to get a more productive discussion... hmm... how can we do
this?
how about a list of questions?
1) what methods of time estimation can we think of? (eg. the current one-point
method, averaging over X amount of time...)
2) how useful is each, and how accurate in what way? (eg.
so it seems where we disagree is whether inaccurate information (which
users are aware is inaccurate) is better than no information.
sorry, that's not right. showing the percentage is not no information. it's
more.. no time information.
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well, it works well enough for *me*... you don't want to hobble mouse
interaction because some people have crappy touchpads, so why hide
battery info because some people have crappy battery hardware/drivers?
because beyond crappy drivers i have yet to see calculations that actually
It's not made up, as far as I can see it's remaining capacity / current
discharge rate. So it does tell you when your battery runs out if you
keep doing what you're doing right now.
Maybe a good point is to think about how we can make this more clear to
the user.
I'd suggest
On May 14, 2009 13:25:19 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday 14 May 2009, David Nolden wrote:
Yes maybe, but to the average user the percentage will be a near useless
number.
so people don't find the battery indicator on their cell phone useful?
ugh, I hate that thing. what the hell does one
On May 13, 2009 18:11:44 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
i love how my battery had 0:00 time just a second ago, even though it's
fully charged, and now it has 0:18 left. these are bullshit numbers, not
0:51 left. neat, esp that it's plugged in _and_
On May 5, 2009 10:58:23 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Tuesday 05 May 2009, Andreas Stricker wrote:
Pascal Bach schrieb:
To copy the files seems to work. Is there a way to tell plasma to
reload these settings without the need to logout?
kbuildsyscoca4 should do the trick. This rebuilds the
On May 4, 2009 15:25:13 Pascal Bach wrote:
Hello,
I'm searching for a way to export/save the current configuration and
arrangement of my plasma widgets on my workspace and to import/load it
again on another Computer.
Is this already possible? Or can somebody point me in a direction
where to
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actually I
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I'll assume this
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we're supposed to have some kind of logging facility, right? ideally I'd
expect that notifications that stopped doing anything more than 5 minutes
ago would get sent away somewhere so that I'd have to explicitly click
some sort of history button or something to show them. I might not want
FWIW, I don't have composite on (waiting for gallium drivers to save me) and I
still regularly find myself thinking damn, KDE really does look awesome these
days.
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