Re: KDE architecture diagram
Hey, first of all thanks for caring :) Well it looks quite close to the status quo imho, but it occurred to me we have indeed a serious naming problem (which I believe was the main source of misunderstanding over the last days) on all of this. In my opinion the diagram makes more sense when s/Workspace/Desktop. I see more the concept of workspaces, aka desktop, mobile, tablet etc... Another thing is that we have way too many names: software compilation, active, workspace, etc... I mean if we, the people working on that, are confused, how could a user feel? I guess a goal for the next sprint should indeed be starting from something like this and drawing a scenario, also in a marketing perspective. 2012/6/7 Aurélien Gâteau agat...@kde.org: Hi, Spent some time yesterday evening on drawing a diagram of KDE architecture, as I proposed in an other thread. Please have a look and tell me what's wrong in it. Aurélien ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: KDE architecture diagram
On Thursday, June 7, 2012 13:47:06 Dario Freddi wrote: Well it looks quite close to the status quo imho, i think it reflects the understanding many have, yes. but it occurred to me we have indeed a serious naming problem (which I believe was the main source of misunderstanding over the last days) on all of this. In my opinion the diagram makes more sense when s/Workspace/Desktop. I see more the concept of workspaces, aka desktop, mobile, tablet etc... calling it desktop fails for various reasons (all of which have been discussed extensively elsewhere in past years): * we have the legacy of desktop both in KDE and the KDE Desktop * a t.v. recorder is not a desktop. we might be able to grin and say that tablet is running a desktop system, but that is even a bit of a stretch. that said .. there are certainly bigger issues than this we have to in front of us to tackle to bring our efforts into sync. I guess a goal for the next sprint should indeed be starting from something like this and drawing a scenario, also in a marketing perspective. there will be enough on the agenda without adding marketing to it, and there are many people not there who ought to be if marketing was part of the mix. -1 -- Aaron J. Seigo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: KDE architecture diagram
On Thursday, June 7, 2012 09:31:08 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: Spent some time yesterday evening on drawing a diagram of KDE architecture, as I proposed in an other thread. Please have a look and tell me what's wrong in it. thanks for taking the time to do this. it certainly helps me understand some of the confusion. the diagram is a set of interlocking, overlapping boxes with no apparent structure. there's no thematic nature in the boxes or their intersections. it looks confused and muddled. it looks nothing like the thing i know, however :) there's an artificial spliting between kde workspace and plasma active that does not exist. those of us working on these things keep saying that but nobody seems to either be listening to or believing us :) in the diagram, plasma active contains an operating system and intersects (some) applications. i'm happy on the one hand because that means that the user message has come across clear - it's an attempt to bring a coherent approach to this area. and so the OS and the UX and the apps all need harmonize with each other. it also reflects the people structure in many ways. in fact, i'd say this is a more accurate documentation of who has worked on what than what the technical design is :) these are all not bad things. but they are not overly useful when we are trying to have technical discussions about the technical design of the software. i will try to come up with something that reflects my knowledge of the system in time for the sprint. i can probably start with a diagram that sebas and i did up a couple years ago -- Aaron J. Seigo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Re: KDE architecture diagram
On Thursday 07 June 2012 21:11:09 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: there's an artificial spliting between kde workspace and plasma active that does not exist. those of us working on these things keep saying that but nobody seems to either be listening to or believing us :) and I think here we have found the root cause of the discussions the last days: there seems to be a misconception in what active is from the view of the developers and from how it is seen from outside. Personally I have to put myself to the outside as I also see active as something not belonging to the other desktops box. I would even split kwin in the diagram in a kwin desktop and a kwin active. Given that it's great that we have the sprint the next week to discuss that. Something went wrong over the last year. We need to figure out what, why and how to fix it. Cheers Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: KDE architecture diagram
Le jeudi 7 juin 2012 21:11:09 Aaron J. Seigo a écrit : there's an artificial spliting between kde workspace and plasma active that does not exist. those of us working on these things keep saying that but nobody seems to either be listening to or believing us :) If I am not mistaken, kde workspace and plasma active are developed in different repositories, have different release schedules and target different devices. That was enough for me to split them. i will try to come up with something that reflects my knowledge of the system in time for the sprint. i can probably start with a diagram that sebas and i did up a couple years ago That would be great. Aurélien ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Mouse wheel on Slider QML component
Hi, I wanted to know if the Slider (from QML components) can be moved using the mouse wheels. If not, is it possible to implement it atm? Thanks, Viranch ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Mouse wheel on Slider QML component
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Viranch Mehta viranch.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I wanted to know if the Slider (from QML components) can be moved using the mouse wheels. If not, is it possible to implement it atm? Qt 4.x does not have a wheel event on MouseArea therefore it's not possible to fix Slider in Components. Qt5 does. We could make our own Plasma.Extras.MouseArea which is just a subclass of qdeclarativemousearea with the new code.. it's quite an important feature to match QWidgets parity, but I don't know if it's worth it. Dave Thanks, Viranch ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request: Fix text colors on TabButton and ToolButton
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105163/#review14504 --- Ship it! Ship It! - David Edmundson On June 6, 2012, 2:28 p.m., Aurélien Gâteau wrote: --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105163/ --- (Updated June 6, 2012, 2:28 p.m.) Review request for Plasma. Description --- When the widgets use the button background frame, use buttonTextColor. When they do not use any background frame, use textColor. This avoids unreadable text with Oxygen, as visible on screenshots. Diffs - plasma/declarativeimports/plasmacomponents/platformcomponents/touch/ToolButton.qml 71629fc plasma/declarativeimports/plasmacomponents/qml/TabButton.qml 0131b12 plasma/declarativeimports/plasmacomponents/qml/ToolButton.qml a10e0bf Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105163/diff/ Testing --- Run Plasma widget gallery, before and after the patch. Screenshots --- before http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105163/s/598/ after http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105163/s/599/ Thanks, Aurélien Gâteau ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
