Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-27 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:26:47 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > a) superfluous to the user (kmail's composer window) > > b) useful, but should be put elsewhere > > c) moving it elsewhere wouldn't result in any visual or usage > > improvements, > > so is justified in usage > > If we ban the statusba

Re: Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-27 Thread Alex Fiestas
> a) superfluous to the user (kmail's composer window) > b) useful, but should be put elsewhere > c) moving it elsewhere wouldn't result in any visual or usage improvements, > so is justified in usage If we ban the statusbar usage for the general use allowing only exceptions like rekonq, then movi

Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-27 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, October 27, 2011 02:59:19 todd rme wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 17:37:57 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > >> I disagree. > > > > i now officially regret letting this thread continue on this list. > > > > instead of keeping t

Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-27 Thread Mark
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:59 AM, todd rme wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 17:37:57 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > >> I disagree. > > > > i now officially regret letting this thread continue on this list. > > > > instead of keeping to th

Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-26 Thread todd rme
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 17:37:57 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: >> I disagree. > > i now officially regret letting this thread continue on this list. > > instead of keeping to the topic and seeing what conclusions might be derived > and them m

Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 17:37:57 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > I disagree. i now officially regret letting this thread continue on this list. instead of keeping to the topic and seeing what conclusions might be derived and them moving it to a broader platform, here we are talking about what is or

Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread David Edmundson
2011/10/25 Aurélien Gâteau : > Le 25/10/2011 16:40, Martin Gräßlin a écrit : >> >> On Tuesday 25 October 2011 14:14:03 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: And yes this is clearly Workspace and not application related. We as the workspace define how an application has to look like and how it has t

Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le 25/10/2011 16:40, Martin Gräßlin a écrit : On Tuesday 25 October 2011 14:14:03 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: And yes this is clearly Workspace and not application related. We as the workspace define how an application has to look like and how it has to behave. The statusbar is inside the applicatio

Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le 25/10/2011 16:32, Martin Gräßlin a écrit : On Tuesday 25 October 2011 20:41:23 David Edmundson wrote: KDE Usability is the mailing list I had in my mind when I wrote it. I didn't mean do distract from the focus of a thread I think is quite important. Interesting that two devs mentioned the u

Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le 25/10/2011 15:41, David Edmundson a écrit : Anyway, given I've decided I should pay more attention to plasma and get away from just hacking constantly on one project, to make up for it here is a breakdown of statusbars the most commonly used apps in KDE. This was made with a fresh account with

Re: Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 25 October 2011 14:14:03 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > And yes this is clearly Workspace and not application related. We as the > > workspace define how an application has to look like and how it has to > > behave. > The statusbar is inside the application window, so I disagree this is a >

Re: Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 25 October 2011 20:41:23 David Edmundson wrote: > KDE Usability is the mailing list I had in my mind when I wrote it. I > didn't mean do distract from the focus of a thread I think is quite > important. Interesting that two devs mentioned the usability mailing list. I hope this is an in

Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread todd rme
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:41 PM, David Edmundson wrote: > 2011/10/25 Aurélien Gâteau : >> Le 25/10/2011 11:32, Martin Gräßlin a écrit : >>> >>> On Tuesday 25 October 2011 15:37:20 David Edmundson wrote: On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Alex Fiestas  wrote: > > On Tuesday, October

Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread David Edmundson
> KOrganizer: Has a statusbar. Seemingly not used. > Get rid of it. If it's used for errors KMessageBox would be better I meant KMessageWidget. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread David Edmundson
2011/10/25 Aurélien Gâteau : > Le 25/10/2011 11:32, Martin Gräßlin a écrit : >> >> On Tuesday 25 October 2011 15:37:20 David Edmundson wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Alex Fiestas  wrote: On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:57:33 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > yes; as we

Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le 25/10/2011 11:32, Martin Gräßlin a écrit : On Tuesday 25 October 2011 15:37:20 David Edmundson wrote: On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Alex Fiestas wrote: On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:57:33 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: yes; as well as sometimes just saying "that information is not worth it"

Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 15:37:20 David Edmundson wrote: > Is plasma-devel really the right mailing list for something that > affects every app, and nothing in plasma? given that these discussions are not happening elsewhere, and that is the kind of thing that evidently the people here do car

Re: Re: Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 25 October 2011 15:37:20 David Edmundson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:57:33 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > >> yes; as well as sometimes just saying "that information is not worth it". > >> the kmail example is a great one.

Re: Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread David Edmundson
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:57:33 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> yes; as well as sometimes just saying "that information is not worth it". >> the kmail example is a great one. i do not care what column and line i am >> on and spell checking s

Re: Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:57:33 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > yes; as well as sometimes just saying "that information is not worth it". > the kmail example is a great one. i do not care what column and line i am > on and spell checking should be shown in the toolbar if at all. More conservative

Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 15:10:42 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Tuesday 11 October 2011 12:54:23 todd rme wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > Taking a look at some apps, I've noticed that most of them have an > > > almost > > > unused statusbar (or totally not u

Re: Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-11 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 12:54:23 todd rme wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > Taking a look at some apps, I've noticed that most of them have an almost > > unused statusbar (or totally not used in some cases) resulting in a big > > empty grey space. > > > > In th

Re: Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-11 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:54:23 PM todd rme wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > Taking a look at some apps, I've noticed that most of them have an almost > > unused statusbar (or totally not used in some cases) resulting in a big > > empty grey space. > > > >

Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-11 Thread todd rme
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Alex Fiestas wrote: > Taking a look at some apps, I've noticed that most of them have an almost > unused statusbar (or totally not used in some cases) resulting in a big empty > grey space. > > In the same way that bit a bit we're fixing the KStatusNotifeir behavi

Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-11 Thread Alex Fiestas
Taking a look at some apps, I've noticed that most of them have an almost unused statusbar (or totally not used in some cases) resulting in a big empty grey space. In the same way that bit a bit we're fixing the KStatusNotifeir behavior in our apps, should we fix the status bar by removing it a