Am Mittwoch 12 August 2009 17:04:00 schrieb Mario Fux:
Good morning
Here some dates or proposals to Tokamak3.
So i have to ask for something unimportant for all those people arriving by
plane ;-) What's actually a good time to arrive on Friday? As I come by train
I'm quite flexible.
Am Donnerstag 27 August 2009 12:31:49 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
On Thursday 27 August 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
You're coming from Zürich?
no, i'm comging from Biel (Bienne) and my transfers are Bern - Visp -
Randa. are you transferring at Bern or Visp as well?
I'm transfering at Visp and my
bf48780d46358fb6249a63c8ca8ee666bf795b84
Author: Martin Gräßlin ubu...@martin-graesslin.com
Date: Sun Aug 30 18:48:15 2009 +0200
Remove fullscreen hack
diff --git a/client.h b/client.h
index fa5dc47..b2de3d8 100644
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@@ -391,8 +391,6 @@ class Client
QRect
As we weren't able to discuss the ideas for window tagging/activities during
Tokamak I'd suggest we have an IRC meeting while most Plasma devs are still in
Randa.
So we just need a time. I think we should do it somewhen in the morning or
early afternoon (UTC time) so that Lucas can join us. So
Am Freitag 04 September 2009 02:34:13 schrieb Marco Martin:
On 9/3/09, Lucas Murray lmur...@undefinedfire.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Marco Martinnotm...@gmail.com wrote:
this patch adds a proxy to the fade effect that permits to set ignored
windows, all the windows where
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How is the performance impact on initial Plasma startup? I fear that
Am Donnerstag 17 September 2009 19:49:23 schrieb Marco Martin:
On Thursday 17 September 2009, Dario Freddi wrote:
I'm interested, at least in attending, maybe I can be useful here and
there, the netbook shell attracts me quite much :) Bonus points for any
date after saturday to me
random
Am Mittwoch 23 September 2009 16:48:00 schrieb Aurélien Gâteau:
Hi,
I would like to present to you some work I have been doing for Canonical
regarding notifications in Plasma.
That just saved you from a rant about it on planetkde from my side ;-) I
wanted to blog about some things I don't
Am Mittwoch 23 September 2009 18:21:32 schrieb Aurélien Gâteau:
Martin Gräßlin wrote:
An important point: While the patch is integrated in Kubuntu, the
default behavior is to use KDE notifications. The user can switch to
Ayatana notifications through an option of the system tray
Am Mittwoch 23 September 2009 18:50:41 schrieb Aurélien Gâteau:
Martin Gräßlin wrote:
Why should a user switch to something else than the KDE notifications?
The dialog is completely missing any information on what the
notifications provide, what's the difference between the two
On 2009-10-01 19:24:19, Aaron Seigo wrote:
anything but the desktop shell painting the wallpaper is poor design. the
window manager does not have enough knowledge of what is happening in the
shell to do so properly. what, exactly, is the benefit of letting compiz
draw the wallpaper?
Am Dienstag 13 Oktober 2009 19:31:45 schrieb Marco Martin:
a generic trigger kwin effect plasmoid should almost be a Junior Job
:)
yeah :)
both that and modifying kwin to gve it all the necessary atoms to activate
all the needed effects :)
Just give us a list which effects should be
cc-ing kwin list. I said it before, I say it again: we need a workspace
mailinglist
Am Dienstag 13 Oktober 2009 22:08:37 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
On October 13, 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
Am Dienstag 13 Oktober 2009 20:19:44 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
slightly off-topic: what would you think
Am Montag 23 November 2009 23:16:10 schrieb Alexis Ménard:
KWin works out of the box without anything, it just doesn't have OpenGL
support mainly because KWin effects are using raw OpenGL which is different
from OpenGL ES 2.0. I don't think we need for now to replace the window
manager.
Am Dienstag 01 Dezember 2009 18:33:42 schrieb Sebastian Kügler:
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 18:13:49 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
is there any possibility of improving the situation rather than flogging
a dead horse?
Probably. It doesn't help me get a complete list of features *right now*.
I'm
Am Dienstag 01 Dezember 2009 20:28:43 schrieb Andreas Marschke:
How about something like the debian devs made they basically add a note to
the changelog like :
* corrected text file (closes #1)
This works for themas well.
And which is in no way a changelog which could be read by endusers.
Am Dienstag 22 Dezember 2009 22:42:55 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
On December 20, 2009, Lucas Murray wrote:
Just to summarise: I consider that enabling the KWin highlight window
effect by default is the wrong choice and that the change should be
reverted before the next KDE SC release.
fwiw,
Am Samstag 27 Februar 2010 23:09:57 schrieb Jacopo De Simoi:
If (and only if) pressing Down without any further entry in the history,
then it could move the focus to the first entry in the list.
I would change to: If (and only if) pressing Down without any further entry in
the history AND the
Am Sonntag 07 März 2010 01:55:22 schrieb Roman Shtylman:
Has any thought been given to changing the default shortcut to
alt+space? I think this was the old old katapult? shortcut... iirc
Alt+space is used by other environments to open the window menu (alt+f3). So
for somebody switching from
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1) Removed Advanced Button from screensaver kcm.
2) Screensaver screen edges settings have been merged with kwin screen edges
settings.
3) Removed
On 2010-03-10 07:28:38, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
Why do we still need prevent screen locking? It seems to do nothing, so I
would say it can be removed completely.
Davide Bettio wrote:
If you keep the mouse in a corner the screensaver will not start and the
screen will not be locked
Am Freitag 19 März 2010 19:49:32 schrieb Marco Martin:
i can continue changing their config files under their feet in the
workspace kcm like now but kinda feels wrong(tm) to me :/
Actually I don't mind that the config files are changed under kwin's feet as
that's how all kwin kcms work. And I
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Hi,
I think you all have seen the visual distortion when opening e.g. Kickoff with
Sliding Popups effect (with blur effect it's very visible as you see the
blurred region before the dialog is shown). Today I tried around a little bit
and noticed that Lancelot is not showing this problem. So I
Am Sonntag 09 Mai 2010 14:27:25 schrieb Marco Martin:
On Sunday 09 May 2010, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
Hi,
I think you all have seen the visual distortion when opening e.g. Kickoff
with Sliding Popups effect (with blur effect it's very visible as you see
the blurred region before
Am Sonntag 09 Mai 2010 14:58:19 schrieb Marco Martin:
Yes I think so. This would probably require a change in kwin to not start
the animation before the pixmap is present.
to further confirm this, it happens also to the (un)minimize effect
sometimes when you have a minimized task since a
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From my experience doing user support this KCM *is* required. Users
Am Montag 24 Mai 2010, 02:14:02 schrieb Chani:
4) file a bug with kwin (but please *please* check for duplicates first!)
Actually a wontfix. Alt+Tab is just a normal window and appears on the active
screen. It has to be that way since we have to support usecases like working
with two screens,
Am Dienstag 25 Mai 2010, 18:31:55 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
On May 24, 2010, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
Which is also a wontfix. The issue is not related in center text
alignment, but in the too long window title. We cannot do anything about
applications which think that they have to put two
Am Mittwoch 02 Juni 2010, 18:08:40 schrieb todd rme:
2010/6/2 Aurélien Gâteau aurelien.gat...@canonical.com:
Hi,
As you probably know if you read PlanetKDE, I am working on implementing
a global menubar for KDE, using DBusMenu. Here is a link to the post in
case you missed it:
Am Freitag 04 Juni 2010, 23:47:07 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
another approach might be to make it a kwin plugin, and have the video
window rendered beneath the PMC window using a compositing plugin. this
plugin would need to know what the video window is and what the PMC window
is (can be done
On Sunday 13 June 2010 20:31:53 Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
There are several spots in KDE where long texts (or URLs) would be a
problem. In most cases this is solved using KSqueezedTextLabel, so why
can't the window list in the Task switcher not use this squeezing, too, to
prevent a switcher
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I must agree with Aaron: I'm really glad we finally get a Dashboard
On 2010-06-15 20:55:30, Aaron Seigo wrote:
trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/kwin/effects/dashboard/dashboard.cpp, lines
100-113
http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/4332/diff/1/?file=28777#file28777line100
that is quite the hack; this should be replaced with another method in
On 2010-06-16 18:12:50, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
I must agree with Aaron: I'm really glad we finally get a Dashboard effect
(I remember that I wrote one about 4.1, but at that time Dashboard was so
broken that I stopped working on it :-P)
I'm not sure about the config options. Having
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There are only small issues left - mostly coding style. Yeah I know
On Tuesday 13 July 2010 22:09:39 Marco Martin wrote:
i fear the time is really tight and we should have stuff ready for
yesterday something that we really need is a set of meego packages of
4.5, or the current trunk, or whatever.
i don't have any knowledge whatsoever about packaging, but is
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Ship it!
At least for KWin part this is a ship It. If nobody
On Tuesday 10 August 2010 18:05:30 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
I would say we have much more control now with the SNI protocol. We can
limit things to sane values. For example the host could decide on a
maximum width and simply fade out the text if it's too wide.
Please don't do that. It get's
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Since 4.5 the
find the tex document and a compiled pdf.
If someone has an idea how to collaborate on the document, please tell me. My
only idea so far is to setup a special repository on gitorious.
Looking forward to your comments.
Regards
Martin Gräßlin
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This patch adds support to pager to
On Sunday 15 August 2010 16:19:04 Sam Spilsbury wrote:
Hi Martin, All.
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Martin Gräßlin
k...@martin-graesslin.com wrote:
I want that in the end this becomes a new freedesktop.org specification
to be used in addition to the EWMH specification. As I am
On Tuesday 17 August 2010 05:00:19 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
wm+cm now provides both frame AND window background (or is able to via its
own frame styles) and application + toolkit now provides ARGB windows with
what used to be the window background be transparent assuming it is
composited onto
On Sunday 15 August 2010 23:14:48 Thomas Lübking wrote:
Am Sunday 15 August 2010 schrieb Martin Gräßlin:
On Sunday 15 August 2010 16:19:04 Sam Spilsbury wrote:
The compositor should set the _NET_CM_SHADOW_SUPPORTED hint and
clients should set the following information
On Monday 23 August 2010 11:53:03 Markus Slopianka wrote:
On 2010-08-23 09:00:48, Marco Martin wrote:
this very patch appeared here for several times already.
and as usual, the question is: what real value gives over auto hiding
the text when there is not enough space?
If this patch
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Review request for kwin, Plasma and Martin Gräßlin.
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Inspired by roundedge http://www.nongnu.org/roundedge/ this kwin effect makes
corners of the desktop rounded.
Older Macs and Monitors had this feature too.
Diffs
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tags/KDE/4.5.1/kdebase
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On Thursday 23 September 2010 16:30:41 todd rme wrote:
I think a good solution integrated
into KDE by default is a must-have.
No, this is a must-have for X. We as KDE should not dare to implement
something like that. The probablity to get it wrong is very, very high. And
the chances to get it
On Thursday 23 September 2010 22:35:19 todd rme wrote:
There is already a tool called noenter that worked pretty well, but it
won't compile. At the very least fixing that and letting people who
want to compile it themselves would be nice.
But, since noeneter works, it is possible to detect
On Saturday 25 September 2010 12:20:33 Chani wrote:
On September 24, 2010 18:24:33 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Friday, September 24, 2010, Chani wrote:
On September 24, 2010 14:03:23 Chani Armitage wrote:
SVN commit 1179043 by chani:
Use an X property for activity associations
On Saturday 25 September 2010 14:59:19 Chani wrote:
personally, though, I'd like to see windows from other activities just
plain not show up in the taskbar. *can* we do that from kwin?
Well we could dynamically add skip pager and skip taskbar. Hmm that would be
something to test the new kwin
On Saturday 25 September 2010 21:14:23 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Saturday, September 25, 2010, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
Yep, duplicating the menu is just a bad idea. Actually we have it
three times: one time in kwin, one time for the taskmanager and one
time duplicated in Compiz. Could we
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On Monday 18 October 2010 18:57:59 Marco Martin wrote:
On Monday 18 October 2010, Chani wrote:
On October 18, 2010 18:26:47 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Monday, October 18, 2010, Chani wrote:
On October 18, 2010 17:19:53 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Monday, October 18, 2010, Chani wrote:
On Sunday 24 October 2010 20:14:31 Marco Martin wrote:
On Sunday 24 October 2010, Ivan Cukic wrote:
Hi,
I've received a nice idea from a user, but I'm unsure how possible it is
to implement.
The idea is to have a visual clue from where the application is started -
to expand it
Hi,
CC-int Plasma as I would like to get some opinion on it.
From various discussion on IRC and looking through review requests, it seems
that we have a general problem with our coding style.
* The coding style is only used in KWin
* Developers seem to have problems with it, nobody really
On Sunday 28 November 2010 21:18:55 Chani wrote:
a new branch? two weeks? why?
isn't there a program for reformatting code, that could just sweep over all
of it and be one commit? even if it's not perfect, something that could at
least fix the brace indentation...
let's say I don't trust it
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Step 3 probably needs changes in slidingpopups effect.
When the
On Wednesday 01 December 2010 21:35:59 Ian Monroe wrote:
One question I have is, especially in light of the three requested
repos for kdebase, do we want pre-4.0 history in git? KOffice
specifically wants their 'deep history', but it might be less useful
for kdebase due to the huge amount of
On Thursday 02 December 2010 18:46:20 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday, December 2, 2010, Chani wrote:
thoughts?
on log out the activity should not be switched automatically just because
an app needs confirmation of something. just show the window. temporarily
associate it with the
On Thursday 09 December 2010 04:09:07 Ian Monroe wrote:
http://gitweb.kde.org/scratch/ianmonroe/kdebase-workspace.git
Clone it or just inspect it out on the gitweb and let me know if there
are any suggestions or concerns. Thanks.
I just went through it on gitweb and it looks to me like some
Btw: you all should probably figure out what you want your repository
names to be, if not you'll get names like kdebase-workspace.
Following a short discussion on IRC I propose to use the name Plasma for
kdebase-workspace.
Cheers
Martin
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On Sunday 19 December 2010 02:32:21 Aaron Lewis wrote:
What do you think about it ?
Just give a try to Colibri [1]. Given the fact that there is an alternative
implementation there is IMHO no need to add any further options.
Cheers
Martin
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Hello,
let me break the Christmas silence by writing a long post about the current
state of KWin and where we are heading towards in 2011. As this also is about
Plasma I sent it to both lists. I have been thinking a lot about the last year
and the state of kwin over the holidays and here is
On Sunday 26 December 2010 19:13:17 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
kwin itself is likely more resistent to needing current kdelibs, so it
could be possible to just provide that + some libs from kdebase-workspace.
I was running kwin trunk with everything else from 4.5 till something like two
weeks before
On Thursday 30 December 2010 19:10:51 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
the biggest problem with that is it requires a top level window
id (e.g.a Plasma::View or even a regular QWidget) and a region inside of
it. i'm not keen on exposing that to the Javascript API, but it should be
possible to go from a
On Friday 31 December 2010 23:21:51 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
to support rotation, kwin would also need to know what the rotation in
QGraphicsItem::transorm() is so it knows which way the polygon is oriented.
with that info, kwin should be able to paint thumbails pretty much anywhere
requested.
I
Hi fellow developers,
first of all: a happy, successful and most important healthy year to everyone.
Today I pushed the most recent changes to my GLES branch [1] of KWin and it is
in a state which is ready for testing. You do not need OpenGL ES to test it!
The branch has two rendering
On Sunday 02 January 2011 17:33:25 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Saturday, January 1, 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
Last but not least I do not see why we would need rotated thumbnails.
if kwin paints the thumbnail (as opposed to handing over an image that the
application itself then paints
On Sunday 02 January 2011 19:09:40 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
FYI: rotating a window is trivial in kwin - built in feature of the
rendering pipeline.
yes :)
What I forgot: it's of course only available in the OpenGL backend.
The difficult part would be IMHO the X atom and
calculating the
On Monday 03 January 2011 10:33:34 Marco Martin wrote:
On Sunday 02 January 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Sunday 02 January 2011 17:33:25 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Saturday, January 1, 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
Last but not least I do not see why we would need rotated thumbnails
On Monday 03 January 2011 00:15:44 Ignat Semenov wrote:
Hi Martin,
Thank you and happy New Year to you as well :)
Today I built your branch. My system is:
Thanks for testing :-)
Fedora 14
KDE trunk
8800 GTS 320 Mb
NVIDIA 260.19 (latest)
First of all, don't know what it built
On Sunday 09 January 2011 10:19:12 Aaron Lewis wrote:
Hmm.. my problem is that , why if we start it all over again , and conky
doesn't disappear any more ?
What if KDE create that window at its initial process ? so no problem
will occur any more ;-)
sorry I did not understand what you want
Hi devs,
I pushed my big changes to my personal clone of kde-workspace. Please give it
a try, that is try to build and try to run it. I created three branches:
* kwin-gles: Import of GLES system [1]
* kwin-cleanup: kwin-gles + some code removings (e.g. no more Xgl) as
discussed on kwin ml [2]
On Sunday 30 January 2011 15:42:33 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
Hi devs,
I pushed my big changes to my personal clone of kde-workspace. Please give
it a try, that is try to build and try to run it. I created three
branches:
* kwin-gles: Import of GLES system [1]
* kwin-cleanup: kwin-gles + some
On Sunday 30 January 2011 20:00:09 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Sunday 30 January 2011 15:42:33 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
Hi devs,
I pushed my big changes to my personal clone of kde-workspace. Please
give it a try, that is try to build and try to run it. I created three
branches:
* kwin
On Monday 31 January 2011 17:08:59 todd rme wrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Martin Gräßlin
k...@martin-graesslin.com wrote:
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
A Segunda, 31 de Janeiro de 2011 13:00:50 Marco Martin você escreveu:
provocation: remove the maximize button
On Monday 31 January 2011 17:09:51 Marco Martin wrote:
On Monday 31 January 2011, Alex Fiestas wrote:
On 01/31/2011 04:11 PM, Marco Martin wrote:
eh.
*cough* statusNotifierItem *cough* ;)
GNOME 3 doesn't use statusNotifierItem?
nope, they are still with xembed ones ;)
i think
On Monday 31 January 2011 17:49:19 Fredrik Höglund wrote:
On Monday 31 January 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
A Segunda, 31 de Janeiro de 2011 13:00:50 Marco Martin você escreveu:
provocation: remove the maximize button by default
On Monday 31 January 2011 17:38:21 Ivan Cukic wrote:
On Monday, 31. January 2011. 17.29.04 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
But changing the semantics of Maximized button depending on whether the
app is modern or not is also a no go
While we are on the topic of adding new captionbar buttons
On Monday 31 January 2011 20:40:41 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Monday, January 31, 2011, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
Panels, in the current implementation, are shared across different
activities: what about adding an option like stick to current activity,
in order to achieve different
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 13:45:14 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
- Making KWin's taskswitcher more Activity-aware, for example by grouping
windows in the Boxswitch, by having some chapter visualization in
Coverswitch, or columns / grid in Present Windows
Easy to achieve as TabBox uses a
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 13:07:58 Dario Freddi wrote:
Aaron, thanks for putting this to attention. I want to add some other
points which are relevant to me and I think fit well into this context.
Sorry for not replying to other points, but I see a lot of enthusiasm,
which is awesome, but
On Thursday 03 February 2011 16:51:34 todd rme wrote:
or tab lists on web browsers.
Just as a note: I'm working on that together with rekonq developers (see
complete thread [1]). I expect to start the kwin side of the implementation
after shadow rework.
Cheers
Martin
[1]:
On Thursday 03 February 2011 18:47:01 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Thursday 03 February 2011 16:51:34 todd rme wrote:
or tab lists on web browsers.
Just as a note: I'm working on that together with rekonq developers (see
complete
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, alex.tolar wrote:
Good night everybody,
I'm not using Windows since Ubuntu Dapper Drake, and Macintosh since
before the colored iMacs: can't care less. Win7, OsX, Gnome3, Unity
and many minor distros adopted a Dock:
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
Hi all,
It seems it's that time of the year again :)
I would really like we could have a little meeting again, maybe around
april? I tink this time it would be nice to hae few people (10-15? but
On Friday 04 February 2011 12:38:23 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
On Thursday, February 03, 2011 23:56:12 Marco Martin wrote:
* location? (that's the tricky part, eheh ;)
I'd be happy to host Tokamak5 in Nijmegen / Netherlands. It's easily
reachable, we'd have the whole house for ourselves. Half
Hi,
sorry for starting playing the bad guy first. Your concept is missing an
important factor: Plasma is not a windowing system, but X is the windowing
system and Plasma is just a set of windows in the other windowing system. With
our current technology stack what your mockups show is in the
On Thursday 10 February 2011 01:00:06 Aleix Pol wrote:
Should I take this silence as a no?
It's a little frustrating... -.-
Sorry, but I didn't get from your initial mail that you wanted to co-host the
Plasma sprint with the edu sprint. I thought you just want to have some Plasma
people
On Thursday 10 February 2011 11:37:55 Ivan Čukić wrote:
Just an uninformed idea. But couldn't the scripting capabilities of Kwin
and plasmoidviewer help to at least do a proof of concept? Instead of
writing a new windows manager from scratch?!?
I haven't looked at the scripting API for
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