Re: Intellectual property (was: owner_id_build vs. copyprevention_bit)

2002-10-06 Thread MJ Ray
Dennis McCunney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not entirely a myth, unfortunately. Show me the numbers. Real numbers, not the abstract estimates of publishers associations. Find a particular piece of restricted work and detect a disturbance in the sales series at the point where an illegally

Re: Intellectual property (was: owner_id_build vs. copyprevention_bit)

2002-10-06 Thread Terence Tan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is my first and probably my last word on the subject. On Saturday, Oct 5, 2002, at 18:56 Australia/Canberra, MJ Ray wrote: Why does an artist want to cooperate with large corporations and make criminals out of people who appreciate their

Re: Intellectual property (was: owner_id_build vs. copyprevention_bit)

2002-10-06 Thread MJ Ray
Terence Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is why I disagree with the GPL as well as any DRM schemes, because it forces authors down a certain path. [...] You misunderstand the GPL's effect on author's rights. The GPL is only concerned with guaranteeing all future users the same rights as

Re: Intellectual property (was: owner_id_build vs. copyprevention_bit)

2002-10-05 Thread MJ Ray
Dennis McCunney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But most of the folks I know at the moment are writers, artists, and musicians trying to make a living out of what is essentially intellectual property, who are _directly_ hurt by unrestricted sharing of thier copyrighted work. I'm not concerned about

RE: Intellectual property (was: owner_id_build vs. copyprevention_bit)

2002-10-05 Thread Dennis McCunney
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MJ Ray Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Intellectual property (was: owner_id_build vs. copyprevention_bit) Dennis McCunney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

RE: Intellectual property (was: owner_id_build vs. copyprevention_bit)

2002-10-04 Thread Dennis McCunney
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Nordstrom Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 3:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Intellectual property (was: owner_id_build vs. copyprevention_bit) On Mon, Sep 30, 2002, Dennis