Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu 22.04.1, firefox snap, alternatives?

2022-08-22 Thread Bill Barry
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 3:05 PM Keith Lofstrom wrote: > > I have been slowly transitioning some systems away from > increasingly-open-source-unfriendly Redhat derivatives > (and RPM distros) to Ubuntu 20.04.x (and APT/DEB, or so > I thought). My goal is a maximum-stable malware-free >

[PLUG] Internet services with lowest packet latency

2022-08-22 Thread Keith Lofstrom
The comcast telemarketers are pestering my wife with offers to "upgrade" our service from many streaming megabytes per second to many more streaming megabytes per second. That way, we can watch 5 internet movies at once rather than 3. We don't watch movies on the net. We could get by with far

Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu 22.04.1, firefox snap, alternatives?

2022-08-22 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 22 Aug 2022 13:00:05 -0700 Keith Lofstrom dijo: >Today I migrated a test machine to Ubuntu 22.04.1. >I expected all the upgrades to be DEB packages. > >Surprise! Canonical provides Firefox as a SNAP package, >their own walled-garden flavor (like RPM). I had hoped >to escape jails of

Re: [PLUG] Internet services with lowest packet latency

2022-08-22 Thread Russell Senior
Some thoughts: 1) you are autonomous creatures, not required to do things random people pester you into. 2) the new name for former-GTE/Verizon/Frontier is "Ziply" ( https://ziplyfiber.com/) not "Bitly". 3) I don't really trust "speed test" sites. I'd suggest measuring what you care about

Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu 22.04.1, firefox snap, alternatives?

2022-08-22 Thread Russell Senior
Another option is outlined here: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04 On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 5:22 PM Bill Barry wrote: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 3:05 PM Keith Lofstrom wrote: > > > > I have been slowly transitioning some systems away from > >

[PLUG] Ubuntu 22.04.1, firefox snap, alternatives?

2022-08-22 Thread Keith Lofstrom
I have been slowly transitioning some systems away from increasingly-open-source-unfriendly Redhat derivatives (and RPM distros) to Ubuntu 20.04.x (and APT/DEB, or so I thought). My goal is a maximum-stable malware-free environment, not the shiniest-latest dancing-bearware. Today I migrated a

Re: [PLUG] Internet services with lowest packet latency

2022-08-22 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 23 Aug 2022 02:14:57 + Cy dijo: >Oh, you could run i2p! >https://geti2p.net How is i2p different from using a VPN? From the above page: "I2P recommends that you use Tor Browser or a trusted VPN when you want to browse the Internet privately." OK, if I use a VPN (and I do), what

Re: [PLUG] Internet services with lowest packet latency

2022-08-22 Thread Cy
On Mon, 22 Aug 2022 17:21:58 -0700 Keith Lofstrom wrote: > When I use a service like "internet speed test", I see > the "needle" hovering near zero for about three seconds, > then it gently crawls towards 101% of our contracted > bandwidth. This maybe isn't so helpful, but I remember hearing

Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu 22.04.1, firefox snap, alternatives?

2022-08-22 Thread Cy
On Mon, 22 Aug 2022 13:00:05 -0700 Keith Lofstrom wrote: > Note: I use some obscure command-line-only applications > that are only available as DEB and RPM. I'm glad there > are other distro communities out there, but many do not > have the obscure stuff, and building large apps from > source

Re: [PLUG] Internet services with lowest packet latency

2022-08-22 Thread John Bartley K7AAY j...@503bartley.com
Ziply will increase your billed rate yearly. After they did it twice, switched to T-Mobile 5G, and happy with the service and the $50 flat rate lifetime prie fixeé. Be happy to run tests for folks who are curious. On Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 20:44 wrote: > Send PLUG mailing list submissions to >