Re: [PLUG] Free Geek volunteers

[Garrett Bigart]

Well, it's a great place and everyone's nice. You can learn a lot while
volunteering whether it's tearing down computers
​,​
building them
​ or volunteering​
. I was doing the laptop build for a while and that was fun
​. I can't tell you how much I hate HP laptops after working on them. ​
I also took some photos for them. It's
​a plus that they have give you a computer after you volunteer for 24
hours, and if you already have a computer, they make for decent home
servers. Volunteering also gives you a discount in the store.

They also have classes if you haven't seen that
​, but make sure you call them to sign up for a class​
.
​ There are classes on the command line and basic Linux use, specifically
on Linux Mint because that goes on every computer they sell or donate.
There are also HTML, CSS, Python and maker classes.


On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Michael Rasmussen <mich...@michaelsnet.us>
wrote:

> Nothing specific. I don't believe in using leading questions to gather
> general information.
>
>
> On 2017-09-18 13:03, Garrett Bigart wrote:
> > Was there anything specific that you wanted to know?
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Vernon Geiszler
> > <vernon.geisz...@gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sep 16, 2017 5:32 PM, "Michael Rasmussen" <mich...@michaelsnet.us>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> If you've volunteered at Free Geek I'd like to hear about your
> >> experiences with them.
> >>
> >>
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> >> It has been over four years since I have had a chance to go down and
> >> volunteer. At that time, the people were friendly and helpful. If you
> >> had a
> >> problem or a question, they were willing to help.
> >>
> >> Vernon
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Re: [PLUG] Free Geek volunteers

[Garrett Bigart]

Was there anything specific that you wanted to know?

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Vernon Geiszler  wrote:

> On Sep 16, 2017 5:32 PM, "Michael Rasmussen" 
> wrote:
>
> If you've volunteered at Free Geek I'd like to hear about your
> experiences with them.
>
>
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> It has been over four years since I have had a chance to go down and
> volunteer. At that time, the people were friendly and helpful. If you had a
> problem or a question, they were willing to help.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Xmodmap not automatically loading when X starts

[Garrett Bigart]

Huh, I've been having the same problem but turning off middle click
pasting. I have to save it to make it start working again which usually
involves adding a space to the end and saving it.


On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

>I've had this issue on portables for years and have not yet found a
> working solution. On each host I have the file ~/.Xmodmap (which swaps the
> left cap lock and control keys). In ~/.bash_profile is the command,
> xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap.
>
>This does not work on the current or prior portables (except the Dell
> Latitude E5410). After starting Xfce4 I need to manually enter this
> command.
> There also are system files that supposedly direct the system to read
> .Xmodmap, but nothing is working.
>
>Has anyone fixed this problem? I'd really like to find where to put the
> xmodmap command so it is applied to all virtual terminals when Xfce4 is
> running.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Migrating Win 10 on new machine to VirtualBox

[Garrett Bigart]

You might need to install a file system to read the drive. Type the
following into your terminal:

sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils


On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtm...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> So far I have written a recovery USB and downloaded the 16.04.3 iso.  Win
> 10 lists all the files on the recovery USB, but neither of my Ubuntu
> machines even acknowledge I plugged them in. ??  Not that it matters--I can
> download a Win 10 ISO and use it when I get to the point of installing Vbox
> (I am slow, due to ignorance.)
>
> -Denis
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > My apology for being sloppy 
> > I meant VM and general term for Virtual Machine - regardless if vBox,
> > KVM, Xen or VMware
> > -T
> > On Sat, 2017-08-12 at 21:01 -0700, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
> > > Tomas,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the suggestion.  I did not know that the recovery  could
> > > be used
> > > for installing in Virtual Box.  (You said VM--I know that VM has a
> > > special
> > > routine for extracting an installed OS for a virtual machine, but was
> > > uncertain about Virtual Box.)
> > >
> > > I am not certain if I will use Win 10--I use Win 2K at present for
> > > two
> > > legacy programs.  And a third might be better with 10.
> > >
> > > -Denis
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Alternatively, you could create Windows recovery USB media before
> > > > installing linux on the box.
> > > > It can be used to fully reinstall already activated Windows in VM
> > > > or on
> > > > the laptop when you want to give it away.
> > > > I store the USB media on a filer as VDI disk image, forever. I have
> > > > never used any of those backups - even when selling old computers,
> > > > they
> > > > were always bought by a Linux geek.
> > > > What are the chances that you would want to use windows Denis?
> > > > I have bunch of MS Win VM's which I use for single task - boot them
> > > > up
> > > > and waste couple of hours updating them every quarter.
> > > > What a waste - I behave like the monkeys with the banana in a cage!
> > > > Tomas
> > > > On Sat, 2017-08-12 at 16:25 -0700, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
> > > > > The latest question, "Is it activated?" , the answer seems to be
> > > > > "yes".
> > > > > Posts I have seen say that if not activated personalization
> > > > > should
> > > > > not be
> > > > > possible.  It is possible for this installation.  But...
> > > > >
> > > > > I read that Win 10 can be moved to a virtual machine:
> > > > > https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-wind
> > > > > ows_
> > > > > install/convert-windows-10-activation-to-virtual-machine/284089e3
> > > > > -af42-4b42-acb6-1e63d50a4212?auth=1
> > > > >
> > > > > So I think I will take this route.  I can get an ISO from MS,
> > > > > then go
> > > > > through the activation as described.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for all the ideas.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Denis
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Denis Heidtmann <
> > > > > denis.heidtm...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I entered settings, searched for "Is windows activated".  The
> > > > > > response was
> > > > > > unable to reach activation servers (not connected).  It also
> > > > > > had an
> > > > > > entry
> > > > > > to change the product key, but no existing product key was
> > > > > > shown.
> > > > > >  So I
> > > > > > think I am still uncertain.  I can connect and try again
> > > > > > (tomorrow).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Denis Heidtmann <
> > > > > > denis.heidtm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will search windows, but not being familiar with it I may
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > difficul

Re: [PLUG] Migrating Win 10 on new machine to VirtualBox

[Garrett Bigart]

Ok, cool. Make sure to skip the key activation during instillation. It
probably wont activate then. Install all updates then activate it.

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtm...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The latest question, "Is it activated?" , the answer seems to be "yes".
> Posts I have seen say that if not activated personalization should not be
> possible.  It is possible for this installation.  But...
>
> I read that Win 10 can be moved to a virtual machine:
> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_
> 10-windows_install/convert-windows-10-activation-to-
> virtual-machine/284089e3-af42-4b42-acb6-1e63d50a4212?auth=1
>
> So I think I will take this route.  I can get an ISO from MS, then go
> through the activation as described.
>
> Thanks for all the ideas.
>
> -Denis
>
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Denis Heidtmann <
> denis.heidtm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I entered settings, searched for "Is windows activated".  The response
> was
> > unable to reach activation servers (not connected).  It also had an entry
> > to change the product key, but no existing product key was shown.  So I
> > think I am still uncertain.  I can connect and try again (tomorrow).
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Denis Heidtmann <
> > denis.heidtm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I will search windows, but not being familiar with it I may have
> >> difficulty.  BTW I managed to boot from a 16.04 flash drive--progress.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Garrett Bigart <gbig...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Before you install Ubuntu could you check in the settings to see
> whether
> >>> it
> >>> says activated or not? I might need to do something depending on what
> >>> that
> >>> says.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Denis Heidtmann <
> >>> denis.heidtm...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > That helps.  It is F12 on this system.  But USB is not on the list,
> so
> >>> I
> >>> > have to use a 14.04 CD that I have, rather than the 16.04 flash
> >>> drive.  But
> >>> > for starters, this will help me check the system.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:00 PM, John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 18:26:56 -0700
> >>> > > Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtm...@gmail.com> dijo:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > >I figured out how to get to the bios.  There is not boot-order
> >>> option
> >>> > > >I am accustomed to--the order is set by properties UEFI/legacy
> >>> rather
> >>> > > >than CD/HD, etc.  I set it to legacy, but it still did not boot
> the
> >>> > > >CD.  UEFI is disabled as well.  I guess I need to explore other
> >>> > > >options.  Ideas?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > This will probably not help, but here goes anyway. On my current
> >>> laptop
> >>> > > there are two boot options: one takes you to the BIOS and the other
> >>> (F7)
> >>> > > gives you a list of devices from which you can select the one to
> boot
> >>> > > to. But this is not a Thinkpad. :(
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Re: [PLUG] Migrating Win 10 on new machine to VirtualBox

[Garrett Bigart]

Before you install Ubuntu could you check in the settings to see whether it
says activated or not? I might need to do something depending on what that
says.

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Denis Heidtmann 
wrote:

> That helps.  It is F12 on this system.  But USB is not on the list, so I
> have to use a 14.04 CD that I have, rather than the 16.04 flash drive.  But
> for starters, this will help me check the system.
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:00 PM, John Jason Jordan  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 18:26:56 -0700
> > Denis Heidtmann  dijo:
> >
> > >I figured out how to get to the bios.  There is not boot-order option
> > >I am accustomed to--the order is set by properties UEFI/legacy rather
> > >than CD/HD, etc.  I set it to legacy, but it still did not boot the
> > >CD.  UEFI is disabled as well.  I guess I need to explore other
> > >options.  Ideas?
> >
> > This will probably not help, but here goes anyway. On my current laptop
> > there are two boot options: one takes you to the BIOS and the other (F7)
> > gives you a list of devices from which you can select the one to boot
> > to. But this is not a Thinkpad. :(
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Re: [PLUG] Migrating Win 10 on new machine to VirtualBox

[Garrett Bigart]

I don't know if that actually means anything. Have you booted it yet, and
if so, what does it say?

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtm...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> This is encouraging.  Thanks for the idea.
>
> The (only) instructions that came with the machine were on how to register
> the windows 10.  Also, the COA has a "silver" patch over a portion of the
> number, with instructions to gently scrape the silver off to expose the
> full number.  This, to me, implies  that it has not been registered.  Do
> you agree?
>
> -Denis
>
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Garrett Bigart <gbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Denis,
> >
> > Windows 10 license keys become tied to hardware as soon as it's
> activated,
> > so if it hasn't been activated, you should be fine with a Windows 10 ISO,
> > your COA and VirtualBox. Now, I was under the impression that all
> prebuilt
> > PCs came activated, so are you absolutely certain that it isn't activated
> > and where are you getting that information? That may determine how you
> > should go about doing this.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> > Garrett
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Denis Heidtmann <
> denis.heidtm...@gmail.com
> > >
> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I just purchased a new desktop machine.  It has Windows 10 pro, not yet
> >
> > > > activated.  After installing Ubuntu I would like to be able to run
> this
> >
> > > > Windows as a guest in VB.  My searching tells me that this can be a
> bit
> >
> > > > tricky.  I am not in any hurry to migrate.  I first want to make
> sure I
> > do
> >
> > > > not do anything which will cut off this possibility.  Do I need to
> > backup
> >
> > > > something from the machine before I install Linux, or can I just use
> > the
> >
> > > > COA sticker to get what I need from Microsoft after I have wiped the
> > HD,
> >
> > > > installed Ubuntu and VB?  I have no reason to run Win 10 (except as a
> >
> > > > guest) on the machine other than to initially ensure myself that the
> >
> > > > machine is functioning properly.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Thanks,
> >
> > > > -Denis
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Re: [PLUG] Migrating Win 10 on new machine to VirtualBox

[Garrett Bigart]

Hey Denis,

Windows 10 license keys become tied to hardware as soon as it's activated,
so if it hasn't been activated, you should be fine with a Windows 10 ISO,
your COA and VirtualBox. Now, I was under the impression that all prebuilt
PCs came activated, so are you absolutely certain that it isn't activated
and where are you getting that information? That may determine how you
should go about doing this.


Best,
Garrett


On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Denis Heidtmann 

> wrote:

>
> I just purchased a new desktop machine.  It has Windows 10 pro, not yet

> > activated.  After installing Ubuntu I would like to be able to run this

> > Windows as a guest in VB.  My searching tells me that this can be a bit

> > tricky.  I am not in any hurry to migrate.  I first want to make sure I
do

> > not do anything which will cut off this possibility.  Do I need to backup

> > something from the machine before I install Linux, or can I just use the

> > COA sticker to get what I need from Microsoft after I have wiped the HD,

> > installed Ubuntu and VB?  I have no reason to run Win 10 (except as a

> > guest) on the machine other than to initially ensure myself that the

> > machine is functioning properly.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > -Denis
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