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Re: [PLUG] Skype for Linux

2017-10-17 Thread elcaseti .

You could also convince your employer to use Signal Private Messenger.
It's very nice, & I believe it can do anything Skype can do, but it's more
trustworthy than Microsoft (who makes Skype).  Might not work, but worth a
try.

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 3:01 AM, Tomas Kuchta 
wrote:

> I too supply random B-dates and location if required. This is in a hope
> that it will prevent matching me to the other clones.
>
> Do not forget to note the random personal bits and pieces as to be able to
> complete later "security" challenges.
>
> I use KDE, so I need to configure the sound device priorities for
> communication apps correctly. Without that the sound/mic would not come out
> of the headset.
>
> Occasionally, when the sound does not work, I resort to pavucontrol to
> select the right sound device routing. Other than that things just work for
> me  beside having too low volume and not realizing it, the terrible
> not-intuitive user interface
>
> -T
>
> On Oct 17, 2017 10:38 AM, "David Barr"  wrote:
>
> The data of my birth was within weeks of the Unix Epoch. I generally use
> that date when I don't feel my actual birthdate would be relevant or
> useful. Just another option...
>
> David
>
> > On Oct 16, 2017, at 5:43 PM, Dick Steffens 
> wrote:
> >
> > I've had some spare time lately and have been working on getting Ubuntu
> > MATE working to my satisfaction on a second machine I got months ago at
> > ENU (RIP). I am required by the company I do work for to have Skype
> > running. On my old machine, running Ubuntu 14,04, I have Skype 4.3. It
> > still works just fine, although I don't know if that will continue. On
> > the new machine, I had Skype for Linux beta installed. When I tried to
> > run it today a window popped up apologizing that it was no longer
> > supported. It had a link to a page that only provided the same version.
> >
> > In frustration, I tried to install the Windows version of Skype on my
> > virtual Win7. It only gets as far as a page requiring that I enter my
> > birthday. There's no opt out available. I have a philosophical aversion
> > to companies requiring personal information that I don't think they
> > need, and don't want to give them.
> >
> > Anyone else using Skype and running into restrictions?
> >
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Re: [PLUG] Migrating Win 10 on new machine to VirtualBox

2017-08-10 Thread elcaseti .

When you said UEFI is disabled as well, did you mean Secure Boot is
disabled?  Or do you mean UEFI is disabled, because legacy boot is enabled?

On Aug 10, 2017 2:19 PM, "Bill Barry"  wrote:

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Denis Heidtmann 
wrote:

> I just purchased a new desktop machine.  It has Windows 10 pro, not yet
> activated.  After installing Ubuntu I would like to be able to run this
> Windows as a guest in VB.  My searching tells me that this can be a bit
> tricky.  I am not in any hurry to migrate.  I first want to make sure I do
> not do anything which will cut off this possibility.  Do I need to backup
> something from the machine before I install Linux, or can I just use the
> COA sticker to get what I need from Microsoft after I have wiped the HD,
> installed Ubuntu and VB?  I have no reason to run Win 10 (except as a
> guest) on the machine other than to initially ensure myself that the
> machine is functioning properly.
>
> Thanks,
> -Denis
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I have used the instructions here
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows  to migrate Windows XP to
Virtualbox, but have not tried it with WIndows 10.  In summary you boot
into windows and run a script which does some registry magic that makes
your Disk drivers look very generic. Then you shut down, DD the image,
convert it the DD'd image to a virtualbox image and boot it.  It sounds
easy, but it's Windows and every step is fraught with peril.  You should
also boot into Windows and create a Recovery Drive before you do anything
else.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4026852/windows-
create-a-recovery-drive
After you have a Recovery Drive you might want to shrink your WIndows
installation. I have done this before with a live linux and GPARTED, but
Windows has a native way of doing this now which sounds like a better idea
https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/resize-a-
partition-for-free-in-windows-vista/

Good luck,
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Re: [PLUG] Upgrading rooted Samsung Android phone

2017-07-08 Thread elcaseti .

There are some other alternative ROMs out there.  Maybe one for your
phones.  "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_custom_Android_distributions
"

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Chuck Hast  wrote:

> The table in question is the Samsung Note 10.1 WiFi (2012) The model #
> is GT-N8013. They hit around it but not it. There were a lot of them bought
> but we got dropped as once the Jan 2013 upgrade went out there was no
> more upgrades, there were some updates, so if you have apps or code that
> needs a newer version of Android then 4.1.2 you are done.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
> > Alas, no Note 10.1 Wifi (2012) For some reason those of us who bought it
> > were abandoned by Samsung on that one as the last upgrade came out in
> > Jan 2013. These guys do not support it either. So bad because us poor
> > buggers
> > that bought the thing paid a king's ransom for it. It is still a great
> > unit, but needs
> > to be upgraded. I have been told that the device got "crunched" in the
> > Apple
> > Samsung fight back about that time.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 6:27 PM, David Bridges 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> If you device is supported I think that LineageOS is a great option.
> >> You can see if your device is support at the following link.
> >>
> >> https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
> >>
> >> By default the device is not rooted but it can be added although I
> >> personally do not have a need for it.
> >>
> >> The particular device you mentioned does appear to be supported and
> >> from looking over the information at the following page for the Galaxy
> >> Note 3 (T-Mobile)(hltetmo) the installation of 14.1 (based on Nougat)
> >> should be fairly straightforward.
> >>
> >> https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/hltetmo
> >>
> >> --
> >> David
> >>
> >> On Fri, 2017-07-07 at 21:03 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> >> > If you're rooted you can't do it in the usual way (over the air) - if
> >> > you go into System Settings > General > About Device > Software
> >> > Update
> >> > you get "Your device has been modified, software updates are not
> >> > available,"
> >> >
> >> > According to internet advice you can upgrade a rooted Android phone
> >> > with Kies, a Samsung app normally used to sync your phone with your
> >> > computer. Unfortunately, you must install Kies on a Windows or a Mac
> >> > computer. Just as well - the last thing I'd ever want to do is sync
> >> > my
> >> > phone with my computer.
> >> >
> >> > My phone is a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (now KitKat 4.4.2),
> >> > which
> >> > I have loved since I got it three or four years ago. I paid someone
> >> > $10
> >> > to root it for me because I couldn't figure out how to do it myself.
> >> > Being rooted is great - for example, I uninstalled the texting app so
> >> > I
> >> > can no longer receive the spam text messages from the carrier (now
> >> > Metro
> >> > PCS).
> >> >
> >> > If anyone knows how to upgrade a rooted KitKat phone to Lollipop or
> >> > later, I'm all ears. And if no one here knows, maybe this could be
> >> > addressed at the next Clinic.
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Re: [PLUG] Yakkety Yak

2016-08-20 Thread elcaseti .

Hahaha :)>

On Aug 20, 2016 4:31 PM, "wes"  wrote:

> don't talk back.
>
> -wes
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 10:08 AM, John Jason Jordan 
> wrote:
>
> > While downloading the latest ISOs of popular distros for the Clinic
> > tomorrow I stumbled upon Ubuntu Yakkety Yak. After half an hour of
> > googling and searching the Ubuntu forums I have yet to find out what it
> > actually is. It seems to have something to do with the desktop, yet it
> > is not listed anywhere as a desktop environment, e.g., gnome, KDE,
> > Xfce, etc.
> >
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Re: [PLUG] [PLUG-ANNOUNCE] PLUG AT: You got something or I got something

2016-01-26 Thread elcaseti .

Thanks, Chuck.  I spent a few hours reading & watching videos about
Zoneminder.  Lots of interesting potential.  Also found this (not
ZoneMinder) "http://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-security-camera/;

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Google the following:
> zoneminder raspberry pi 2
> That will get you started, there is even a video from a guy that uses it as
> a vehicle recorder, most of them are using the older models of the RPi you
> will want to use the 2 as that has the memory and horsepower to do several
> cams.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 8:07 PM, elcaseti . <elcas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A live version sounds interesting.  I didn't realize that was an option.
> > I'm guessing it would not work well to run it live all of the time.  I
> was
> > hoping to run it on a Raspberry Pi, as they don't use much power to run.
> > When I looked, that wasn't an option.  Maybe it would run on the Pi 2.
> The
> > thing I liked, is that I could use old USB webcams.  If I want to use
> > better cams designed for low light, I'd have to buy some special
> hardware,
> > as those mostly use BNC connectors, not USB.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I used it in Tampa for video surveillance systems. I had a point where
> we
> > > gave video to law enforcement, they really liked the fact that ZM kept
> > the
> > > videos as JPG images, made processing them very easy. You can tell it
> > > to store in other formats, but JPG is the preferred one for many law
> en-
> > > forcement agencies according to the sheriff video people in
> Hillsborough
> > Co
> > > FL.
> > >
> > > You can download a liveCD (there was more than one) to play with. I
> used
> > > it with networked cameras but if you have a frame grabber card you can
> > use
> > > analog cameras, and you can also use USB cameras with it.
> > >
> > > The biggest problem was with camera producers who's product only worked
> > > with I.E. or some windows based tool. But usually the cameras were not
> > > worth much.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:46 PM, elcaseti . <elcas...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I read about ZoneMinder a few months ago.  It's obviously a very
> > > powerful,
> > > > flexible tool.  I also got the impression it's more for advanced
> > > technical
> > > > users.  Can any of you comment on that?  Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I would too if I am in town. I have never been to one before (live
> up
> > > in
> > > > > Kelso
> > > > > WA) but would like to go, I have used ZoneMinder a lot and really
> > like
> > > > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Right now I am up in Alaska, headed to Dutch Harbor Unalaska
> > tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Michael Dexter <
> > dex...@ambidexter.com
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 1/18/16 12:39 PM, jakimfett wrote:
> > > > > > > I could possibly present on using ZoneMinder for a Linux-based
> > > > > > > security camera system. I finished getting the base system
> online
> > > > > > > yesterday, so it would be a very hands on, somewhat unpolished
> > > > > > > presentation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am QUITE interested in this. Either Feb slot is yours if ready.
> > > > > >
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Re: [PLUG] [PLUG-ANNOUNCE] PLUG AT: You got something or I got something

2016-01-25 Thread elcaseti .

I read about ZoneMinder a few months ago.  It's obviously a very powerful,
flexible tool.  I also got the impression it's more for advanced technical
users.  Can any of you comment on that?  Thanks.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Chuck Hast  wrote:

> I would too if I am in town. I have never been to one before (live up in
> Kelso
> WA) but would like to go, I have used ZoneMinder a lot and really like it.
>
> Right now I am up in Alaska, headed to Dutch Harbor Unalaska tomorrow.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Michael Dexter 
> wrote:
>
> > On 1/18/16 12:39 PM, jakimfett wrote:
> > > I could possibly present on using ZoneMinder for a Linux-based
> > > security camera system. I finished getting the base system online
> > > yesterday, so it would be a very hands on, somewhat unpolished
> > > presentation.
> >
> > I am QUITE interested in this. Either Feb slot is yours if ready.
> >
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Re: [PLUG] Rebuilding laptop battery packs

2014-12-31 Thread elcaseti .

I wish I lived closer to PDX.  I have 3 old Thinkpads I'd like to repair.
Good luck, everybody.  I'll watch this thread with interest.

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Bryan Linton p...@shoshoni.info wrote:

 On 2014-12-29 17:58:14, Keith Lofstrom kei...@gate.kl-ic.com wrote:
  I have accumulated a bunch of old Lenovo T60 laptop battery
  packs that don't hold a charge.  Lifting the label - the
  cells are standard, perhaps replaceable by new ones.
 
  Anybody interested in rebuilding battery packs?
 
  My packs are glued or plastic-welded together, so I would need a
  hot knife to open them, appropriate adhesive to put them together
  again, a small spot welder to tab the batteries, and presumably
  a ventilated space to work, in case a cell catches fire.
 
  With enough participants we could buy the right tools and buy
  cells in bulk.  Not sure how many types we would need. My T60s
  and X60s both use CG18650 cells, which are $39 for 12 Panasonic
  cells on eBay, $499 for 360 cells.  Chinese cells might be
  cheaper (both ways).
 
  This cell size is often used for vaping; does that push price
  up or down, or merely attract dangerous counterfeits?
 
  Keith
 

 I'd be interested in at least observing this if nothing else.

 I'm a fan of Thinkpads, and over the holidays upgraded the screen
 in my T60 from a 1024x768 model to a 1600x1200 model, as well as
 upgraded the CPU from a T2300 Core Duo to a T7200 C2D.

 I have a feeling the next thing in need of upgrading will be the
 battery pack.

 If things are being reported accurately, my OS tells me that the
 battery was designed to hold 56.16 Wh and currently holds 31.49 Wh
 at 99% charge, so it's not too bad, but I can't say that I trust
 most vendors to either build a reliable clone, or to sell me an
 authentic original.  Besides, I'm not even sure that there are
 going to be many factory original, unused batteries for T60
 laptops nowadays anyway.

 I know how to use a soldering iron, but I'm sure my skills pale in
 comparison to actual electrical engineers.  If I can manage to
 make it to the event, I'd like to help with whatever I can, or to
 just observe and be an extra pair of hands otherwise.

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Re: [PLUG] 64 bit distros, older laptops, processor upgrades (correction)

2014-12-18 Thread elcaseti .

Also, the KDE version of Mint still comes in 32 bit  64 bit versions, 
they are supported for 5 years.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 7:54 PM, King Beowulf kingbeow...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 12/17/2014 11:09 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
 
 
  Ah well - I don't have other spare parts for the X60s, so I'll
  probably just retire them as they or the 32 bit distros die.
 
  Keith
 

 Pop Slackware the old X60.  AFAIK, there are no plans to retire the
 original 32-bit version.  As an added bonus, you won't have to worry
 about systemd, PAM, or pulseaudio (or any other 'fads') for quite some
 time  ;-)

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Re: [PLUG] Boosting WiFi Signals Cellular Connection of Portable to 'Net

2014-12-06 Thread elcaseti .

To increase your wifi range by quite a bit, I'd suggest using an ALFA usb
wifi device.  I've had very good luck with them on GNU/Linux distros  they
will accept an external antenna.

Cheers,

Elcaset

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Galen Seitz gal...@seitzassoc.com wrote:

 On 12/05/14 07:33, Rich Shepard wrote:
  Thanks for showing me many options. With a modicum of skill (and
 luck)
  I'll be doing a lot more business travel in the coming months where this
  capability will come in quite handy. Of course, there are vast swatches
 of
  Oregon, Nevada, Utah, and Idaho that are official Radio Free Zones. No
  cellular coverage at all. Along I-80 cellular coverage is only 4 miles
  either side; beyond that it's sat phone territory (which is why I carry
 the
  latter with me on trips when I'm driving in those areas).

 As others have mentioned, tethering might be an option.  My experience
 tethering with Ubuntu and ATT was relatively painless.  This was using
 Network Manager.  I seem to recall you are using something else to
 manage your network connection.  Nonetheless, you might want to
 experiment with tethering before you go buy something.  You might be
 pleasantly surprised.

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Re: [PLUG] Boosting WiFi Signals Cellular Connection of Portable to 'Net

2014-12-06 Thread elcaseti .

I'm not sure if you can buy an ALFA at Frys or not.  You might have to
order it online.

On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Chuck Hast wch...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, now that you have told me that bit about pointing it in different
 directions
 I will say something about polarization. The wave front is polarized, and
 depending on how the AP was setup it can be horizontal or vertical, and of
 course travel through walls and being reflected will twist the
 polarization, so
 not only do you want the antenna to face towards the source you may want
 to rotate it to see if you get more signal. Off polarization antennas can
 cost
 a lot of dB. When doing links that is a old trick to run two antennas in
 closer
 proximity, run one horizontal and the other vertical and you will get about
 30
 dB of isolation.

 On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
 wrote:

  On Sat, 6 Dec 2014, Chuck Hast wrote:
 
   I have a 2 meter USB extension cable, it comes in very handy for that
  sort
   of thing, putting a USB WiFi radio in a location where it can hear the
  AP.
 
  Chuck,
 
 Good idea. I have a WiFi signal strength tester (4 LEDs, no meter) and
  have seen how pointing it in different directions within the hotel room
  can change the signal strength.
 
   I carry one around as part of my away kit. Sometimes the place where
 you
   set your computer is not in best of coverage, but you move the thing
   around a bit and you find a hot spot, but it is not where you can set
  your
   computer.
 
 Guess I'll need to reluctantly make the trip to Fry's for a USB wifi
  adapter, entention cable, and antenna.
 
 And look at choices for WiFi/Cellular translators, too.
 
 More to carry on trips, but should help communicating with the office
  network.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Boosting WiFi Signals Cellular Connection of Portable to 'Net

2014-12-06 Thread elcaseti .

Sure enough, Fry's doesn't sell ALFA wifi devices, but Amazon does.

On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:33 PM, elcaseti . elcas...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not sure if you can buy an ALFA at Frys or not.  You might have to
 order it online.

 On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Chuck Hast wch...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, now that you have told me that bit about pointing it in different
 directions
 I will say something about polarization. The wave front is polarized, and
 depending on how the AP was setup it can be horizontal or vertical, and of
 course travel through walls and being reflected will twist the
 polarization, so
 not only do you want the antenna to face towards the source you may want
 to rotate it to see if you get more signal. Off polarization antennas can
 cost
 a lot of dB. When doing links that is a old trick to run two antennas in
 closer
 proximity, run one horizontal and the other vertical and you will get
 about
 30
 dB of isolation.

 On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
 wrote:

  On Sat, 6 Dec 2014, Chuck Hast wrote:
 
   I have a 2 meter USB extension cable, it comes in very handy for that
  sort
   of thing, putting a USB WiFi radio in a location where it can hear the
  AP.
 
  Chuck,
 
 Good idea. I have a WiFi signal strength tester (4 LEDs, no meter)
 and
  have seen how pointing it in different directions within the hotel room
  can change the signal strength.
 
   I carry one around as part of my away kit. Sometimes the place where
 you
   set your computer is not in best of coverage, but you move the thing
   around a bit and you find a hot spot, but it is not where you can set
  your
   computer.
 
 Guess I'll need to reluctantly make the trip to Fry's for a USB wifi
  adapter, entention cable, and antenna.
 
 And look at choices for WiFi/Cellular translators, too.
 
 More to carry on trips, but should help communicating with the office
  network.
 
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Re: [PLUG] Linux Mint

2014-11-21 Thread elcaseti .

Thanks, Ben.  This is very helpful, actually.

Cheers,

Elcaset

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Ben Koenig techkoe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11/13/2014 07:26 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
  HI
 
  Question for Linux Mint 17 users..
 
  I get a different list of packages for apt-get then I do for update
  Manager???
 
  Also will mint install new kernels?
 
  TIA
 
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 I know this is old but I think it is worth mentioning since this is one
 of the more interesting features of Linux Mint.
 MintUpdate filters packages by what the Mint team deems to be safe. In
 other words, packages such as dbus, and the kernel, for example aren't
 typically upgraded because they *could* cause stability issues  when you
 go up a version (like if you have a special driver installed).

 There are 5 levels in MintUpdate that you can enable and disable in the
 settings, by default I think only the first 3 are turned on. 4 and 5 are
 dangerous. Ubuntu does these so called dangerous updates and seems to
 do fine, but Mint has other ideas! Running apt on the command line will
 ignore MintUpdate.

 To answer the question, to install kernel updates, you need to enable
 the update level that includes those packages. This would be done in the
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Re: [PLUG] SeaGL?

2014-10-03 Thread elcaseti .

I am, although I live near Seattle.

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wrote:


 Is anyone here going to this: http://seagl.org/

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Re: [PLUG] SeaGL?

2014-10-03 Thread elcaseti .

There's at least one hostel in Seattle that seems good.  I can't remember
the name, but I may be able to track it down.  I'm not familiar with hotels
in Seattle.

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wrote:

 On 10/03/2014 03:07 PM, elcaseti . wrote:
  I am, although I live near Seattle.

 Even better.  Do you know of any good places to stay?  I'll probably end
 up forking out the cash for a hotel.  But I'd like some sense of it
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Re: [PLUG] SeaGL?

2014-10-03 Thread elcaseti .

These are the ones I was trying to remember: 
http://www.yelp.com/biz/city-hostel-seattle-seattle;
http://www.yelp.com/biz/green-tortoise-hostel-seattle;

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Chuck Hast wch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Check AirBnB. I use it at times when I travel and the hotels are outside
 of what I consider a proper price for a bed. (And the solutions that are
 at hand are bedbug hotels, can not afford a infestation). We also host
 so we are familiar with it, and you can find nice places at good prices.

 On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:26 PM, elcaseti . elcas...@gmail.com wrote:

  There's at least one hostel in Seattle that seems good.  I can't remember
  the name, but I may be able to track it down.  I'm not familiar with
 hotels
  in Seattle.
 
  On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:18 PM, glen e. p. ropella 
 g...@tempusdictum.com
  wrote:
 
   On 10/03/2014 03:07 PM, elcaseti . wrote:
I am, although I live near Seattle.
  
   Even better.  Do you know of any good places to stay?  I'll probably
 end
   up forking out the cash for a hotel.  But I'd like some sense of it
   before I commit.
  
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Re: [PLUG] buy raspberry pi in Portland?

2014-08-27 Thread elcaseti .

Thanks everybody.

Cheers
On 26 Aug 2014 20:30, Chuck Hast wch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Radio Shack, call before going, they fly off the shelves. I was going to
 get one at the Longview store, but they were all sold out, ordered mine on
 line as I figured I would get it before I could get to another rat shack,
 and the next truck load for Longview was for the next week by which time I
 had mine in hand.
 On Aug 26, 2014 7:40 PM, elcaseti . elcas...@gmail.com wrote:

  Someone is in town for Debconf,  wants to buy raspberry pi in
 Portland.  I
  remember someone in here mentioning a store that carries them.  Yet, I
  can't find that thread in here.Does anybody know that store's name or
  url ?Thanks
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Re: [PLUG] buy raspberry pi in Portland?

2014-08-27 Thread elcaseti .

Thanks, Daniel.

The Church of Robotron (Dorkbot PDX) seems like the perfect place to buy a
pi from :)


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Daniel Johnson tekno...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:37 PM, elcaseti . elcas...@gmail.com wrote:
  Someone is in town for Debconf,  wants to buy raspberry pi in Portland.

 Try the dorkbot mailing list.
 http://dorkbot.org/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber

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[PLUG] buy raspberry pi in Portland?

2014-08-26 Thread elcaseti .

Someone is in town for Debconf,  wants to buy raspberry pi in Portland.  I
remember someone in here mentioning a store that carries them.  Yet, I
can't find that thread in here.Does anybody know that store's name or
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[PLUG] Does PLUG have an irc channel?

2014-08-12 Thread elcaseti .

Does PLUG have an irc channel?  My search engine isn't finding it, if it
exists.

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Re: [PLUG] Does PLUG have an irc channel?

2014-08-12 Thread elcaseti .

oh, ok.  that makes more sense.


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 On 8/12/14 2:06 PM, elcaseti . wrote:
  Ok, got it.  So they are 2 separate irc channels.

 One is Oregon LUGs, one is PLUG.

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Re: [PLUG] Ham radio was AK**

2014-08-10 Thread elcaseti .

As to apps, I would like to see a Android app that allows me to control
my radios with it, there are plenty of Windows and Linux programs for it,
I use Chirp which does a good job of controlling my Icom IC-92ad, but I
no longer carry a full laptop, so something that can carry the frequency
database and load new frequencies into the radio as I go to new places
would be a great addition. I wish i was good at doing that sort of thing, I
would set to work on it but I fear that it would be years before I had a
thing working.

There probably are Android apps for controlling radios from.  My radios are
too old for such stuff.  Although, I do have one new radio (a Boafeng HT),
that is hard to program, just like any HT.  I'll look for such an app for
it.  I, too, haven't had much luck with programming recently made radios.

Cheers,

Elcaset


On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Chuck Hast wch...@gmail.com wrote:

 No problem. I did not even realize that there was a problem. As I said it
 is almost
 up to date, I just need to move it from Kalama to Kelso. I will probably
 get on line
 when I get back from the Bay area and get it done at the end of the week.



 On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 8:28 PM, elcaseti . elcas...@gmail.com wrote:

 If it's ok with you, I'll move us back to the PLUG list, so everyone can
 benefit from our discussion.  I just didn't want to mention your
 address-related stuff on the list.


 On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 3:04 AM, Chuck Hast wch...@gmail.com wrote:

 The FCC had the right address, I have moved to Kelso just recently and
 now have to change it again. Not sure why the mess with QRZ.com, but
 I am sure they will sort it out, as long as the FCC has the correct info
 then
 things are OK. I was looking for my password to go on the site and change
 the address, finally found it but have not had a chance to change from
 Kalama to Kelso.

 As to apps, I would like to see a Android app that allows me to control
 my radios with it, there are plenty of Windows and Linux programs for it,
 I use Chirp which does a good job of controlling my Icom IC-92ad, but I
 no longer carry a full laptop, so something that can carry the frequency
 database and load new frequencies into the radio as I go to new places
 would be a great addition. I wish i was good at doing that sort of
 thing, I
 would set to work on it but I fear that it would be years before I had a
 thing working.



 On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 7:06 PM, elcaseti . elcas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chuck,

 I just looked you up on QRZ.com,  there's something wrong with their
 listing.  The address has you in Kalama, but the map  State portion thinks
 you're in Florida.  QRZ.com gets your info from the FCC.  If the FCC tries
 to send you snail mail in Florida  you don't answer them, they'll pull
 your licence (or so they claim).

 Cheers,

 Elcaset


 On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 1:40 AM, elcaseti . elcas...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've only tried a few Amateur radio Android apps.  Here's the ones
 that I've found to be useful so far:   Repeaterbook for the USA  Canada
 (they make another one for Europe).  UTC Nixie.  QRZdroid.  NCDXF beacon.
 Locator (for Lat/Long  VHF grid location,  other location-related
 stuff).  HamGPS (for Lat/Long  VHF grid location,  other 
 location-related
 stuff).  Ham radio tools (band limits, altitude  lots of other stuff).  
 As
 I don't currently have a data plan, these apps work offline, or mostly
 offline.

 One thing that I haven't found, but would love to, is an Android or
 GNU/Linux app that listens to CW  converts it into English.  I've tried
 one or 2 apps, that try to do this, but fail miserably.  So, if anybody
 finds one, please let me know.

 Thanks,

 Elcaset


 On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Chuck Hast wch...@gmail.com wrote:

 As a FOSS/Linux nut and a ham, call is KP4DJT, yes I was licensed in
 Puerto Rico for those who recognize the prefix, I enjoy anything that
 mixes
 the two. Indeed for many years the best software for amateur radio
 was on
 Linux, this has slipped somewhat, which is sad because the other OS
 is still
 in my opinion the same as a car with the hood welded shut. But the
 masses
 demand it because that is what they all run.

 While living in Tampa, I helped keep the local amateur packet radio
 network
 running, all of our switches were Linux based and allowed the use of
 multiple
 protocols. (Not so for those running something on the other OS) It
 was fun
 times, and I am looking forward to getting back into some of that
 here. I
 live
 a bit far north to attend your activities, and also I am a field
 service
 engineer
 and most of the time I travel (was in Maui this week) to places well
 outside
 of driving distance to the meetings.

 One of the things I am always looking for is ham radio apps for my
 Android
 boxen. As that is what I carry on the road now. I am going to try to
 get me
 something lighter than my X200 so I can go back to carrying a Linux
 box too.
 But I also have to watch the weight

Re: [PLUG] Ham radio was AK**

2014-08-10 Thread elcaseti .

OK, I did find this one.  
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ro.yo3ggx.rxtx;  Pocket HAM
bands Transceiver  It looks limited, but hopefully, other folks will make
similar apps that control more rigs, or work with fldigi.


On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:23 PM, elcaseti . elcas...@gmail.com wrote:

 As to apps, I would like to see a Android app that allows me to control
 my radios with it, there are plenty of Windows and Linux programs for it,
 I use Chirp which does a good job of controlling my Icom IC-92ad, but I
 no longer carry a full laptop, so something that can carry the frequency
 database and load new frequencies into the radio as I go to new places
 would be a great addition. I wish i was good at doing that sort of thing, I
 would set to work on it but I fear that it would be years before I had a
  thing working.

 There probably are Android apps for controlling radios from.  My radios
 are too old for such stuff.  Although, I do have one new radio (a Boafeng
 HT), that is hard to program, just like any HT.  I'll look for such an app
 for it.  I, too, haven't had much luck with programming recently made
 radios.

 Cheers,

 Elcaset


 On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Chuck Hast wch...@gmail.com wrote:

 No problem. I did not even realize that there was a problem. As I said it
 is almost
 up to date, I just need to move it from Kalama to Kelso. I will probably
 get on line
 when I get back from the Bay area and get it done at the end of the week.



 On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 8:28 PM, elcaseti . elcas...@gmail.com wrote:

 If it's ok with you, I'll move us back to the PLUG list, so everyone can
 benefit from our discussion.  I just didn't want to mention your
 address-related stuff on the list.


 On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 3:04 AM, Chuck Hast wch...@gmail.com wrote:

 The FCC had the right address, I have moved to Kelso just recently and
 now have to change it again. Not sure why the mess with QRZ.com, but
 I am sure they will sort it out, as long as the FCC has the correct
 info then
 things are OK. I was looking for my password to go on the site and
 change
 the address, finally found it but have not had a chance to change from
 Kalama to Kelso.

 As to apps, I would like to see a Android app that allows me to control
 my radios with it, there are plenty of Windows and Linux programs for
 it,
 I use Chirp which does a good job of controlling my Icom IC-92ad, but I
 no longer carry a full laptop, so something that can carry the frequency
 database and load new frequencies into the radio as I go to new places
 would be a great addition. I wish i was good at doing that sort of
 thing, I
 would set to work on it but I fear that it would be years before I had a
 thing working.



 On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 7:06 PM, elcaseti . elcas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chuck,

 I just looked you up on QRZ.com,  there's something wrong with their
 listing.  The address has you in Kalama, but the map  State portion 
 thinks
 you're in Florida.  QRZ.com gets your info from the FCC.  If the FCC tries
 to send you snail mail in Florida  you don't answer them, they'll pull
 your licence (or so they claim).

 Cheers,

 Elcaset


 On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 1:40 AM, elcaseti . elcas...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've only tried a few Amateur radio Android apps.  Here's the ones
 that I've found to be useful so far:   Repeaterbook for the USA  Canada
 (they make another one for Europe).  UTC Nixie.  QRZdroid.  NCDXF beacon.
 Locator (for Lat/Long  VHF grid location,  other location-related
 stuff).  HamGPS (for Lat/Long  VHF grid location,  other 
 location-related
 stuff).  Ham radio tools (band limits, altitude  lots of other stuff).  
 As
 I don't currently have a data plan, these apps work offline, or mostly
 offline.

 One thing that I haven't found, but would love to, is an Android or
 GNU/Linux app that listens to CW  converts it into English.  I've tried
 one or 2 apps, that try to do this, but fail miserably.  So, if anybody
 finds one, please let me know.

 Thanks,

 Elcaset


 On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Chuck Hast wch...@gmail.com wrote:

 As a FOSS/Linux nut and a ham, call is KP4DJT, yes I was licensed in
 Puerto Rico for those who recognize the prefix, I enjoy anything
 that mixes
 the two. Indeed for many years the best software for amateur radio
 was on
 Linux, this has slipped somewhat, which is sad because the other OS
 is still
 in my opinion the same as a car with the hood welded shut. But the
 masses
 demand it because that is what they all run.

 While living in Tampa, I helped keep the local amateur packet radio
 network
 running, all of our switches were Linux based and allowed the use of
 multiple
 protocols. (Not so for those running something on the other OS) It
 was fun
 times, and I am looking forward to getting back into some of that
 here. I
 live
 a bit far north to attend your activities, and also I am a field
 service
 engineer
 and most of the time I travel (was in Maui this week) to places

Re: [PLUG] Ham radio was AK**

2014-08-10 Thread elcaseti .

I know enough to give a not-so-formal talk that would probably be an intro
to Amateur radio.  I have very little experience using GNU/Linux,  Android
Linux with Amateur radio.   So, my talk would have to focus on Amateur
radio in general, but could include a brief portion related to GNU/Linux.
The more I think about it, I'd rather give a short talk,  then have the
majority of the time be a question  answer session.

The biggest problem being that I live near Seattle,  am only in PDX once
or twice a year, on average.  I will be in PDX soon to attend Debconf
(Debian conference) at PSU  the last week of August.   I don't know if that
might provide an opportunity for this to occur.


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wrote:

 On 8/10/14 2:42 PM, elcaseti . wrote:
  OK, I did find this one.  
  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ro.yo3ggx.rxtx;  Pocket
 HAM
  bands Transceiver  It looks limited, but hopefully, other folks will
 make
  similar apps that control more rigs, or work with fldigi.

 I found SDR Touch and installed it but I understand a special cable is
 needed for such use. Still waiting on my hardware but lean of DorkBot
 posted just yesterday that he has a new kickstarter-originated SRD.
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Re: [PLUG] Ham radio was AK**

2014-08-10 Thread elcaseti .

OK, you're looking for something like CHIRP for Android.


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:16 AM, Chuck Hast wch...@gmail.com wrote:

 That app appears to be one of that group that works through a
 remotely located server which in turn talks to radios that are
 located at other amateur radio ops shacks.

 I am looking for something that can talk do my hand held and
 allow me to program it either frequency by frequency or a whole
 block of them.

 There is a OSS solution, but it is Linux/Mac/Windows, Android
 has come up but sounds like there is some major coding in order
 to get it to do Android. BUT it is OSS so someone who has the
 time could take a whack at it.

 Then there is the ever present Windows solutions (yawn) I no
 longer carry a laptop with me, and when i did it was NOT windows,
 I do run a VM for windows on my laptop, so I do have that work
 around if I carry it, but I try not to. Tablet and phone do everything
 I need to do except program/control the radio, without the added
 weight of the laptop.


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 wrote:

  On 8/10/14 2:42 PM, elcaseti . wrote:
   OK, I did find this one.  
   https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ro.yo3ggx.rxtx;  Pocket
  HAM
   bands Transceiver  It looks limited, but hopefully, other folks will
  make
   similar apps that control more rigs, or work with fldigi.
 
  I found SDR Touch and installed it but I understand a special cable is
  needed for such use. Still waiting on my hardware but lean of DorkBot
  posted just yesterday that he has a new kickstarter-originated SRD.
  elcaseti, would you like to enlighten the group with a talk?
 
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Re: [PLUG] Ham radio was AK**

2014-08-09 Thread elcaseti .

I've only tried a few Amateur radio Android apps.  Here's the ones that
I've found to be useful so far:   Repeaterbook for the USA  Canada  (they
make another one for Europe).  UTC Nixie.  QRZdroid.  NCDXF beacon.
Locator (for Lat/Long  VHF grid location,  other location-related
stuff).  HamGPS (for Lat/Long  VHF grid location,  other location-related
stuff).  Ham radio tools (band limits, altitude  lots of other stuff).  As
I don't currently have a data plan, these apps work offline, or mostly
offline.

One thing that I haven't found, but would love to, is an Android or
GNU/Linux app that listens to CW  converts it into English.  I've tried
one or 2 apps, that try to do this, but fail miserably.  So, if anybody
finds one, please let me know.

Thanks,

Elcaset


On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Chuck Hast wch...@gmail.com wrote:

 As a FOSS/Linux nut and a ham, call is KP4DJT, yes I was licensed in
 Puerto Rico for those who recognize the prefix, I enjoy anything that mixes
 the two. Indeed for many years the best software for amateur radio was on
 Linux, this has slipped somewhat, which is sad because the other OS is
 still
 in my opinion the same as a car with the hood welded shut. But the masses
 demand it because that is what they all run.

 While living in Tampa, I helped keep the local amateur packet radio network
 running, all of our switches were Linux based and allowed the use of
 multiple
 protocols. (Not so for those running something on the other OS) It was fun
 times, and I am looking forward to getting back into some of that here. I
 live
 a bit far north to attend your activities, and also I am a field service
 engineer
 and most of the time I travel (was in Maui this week) to places well
 outside
 of driving distance to the meetings.

 One of the things I am always looking for is ham radio apps for my Android
 boxen. As that is what I carry on the road now. I am going to try to get me
 something lighter than my X200 so I can go back to carrying a Linux box
 too.
 But I also have to watch the weight, they do not give frequent flyer miles
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  Also on the subject of Gnu/Linux and Amateur radio, Linux in the Ham
  Shack is a podcast,  they also have an irc channel.
 
  http://lhspodcast.info/
 
  Cheers,
 
  Elcaset
 
 
  On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Keith Lofstrom kei...@gate.kl-ic.com
  wrote:
 
   On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 01:42:05PM -0700, Tyrell Jentink wrote:
While looking at topics that are a fusion between Linux and other
hobbies... I'm a pretty big fan of ham radio, and there are plenty of
projects in ham radio that use Linux; AX.25 Soundmodem Drivers for
 both
packet and APRS, Broadband-Hamnet (Formerly HSMM-MESH), and
telemetry/telecommand all come to mind as interesting topics that
   actually
DO relate to Linux, Unix, and Computers in general.
  
   Tyrell for next speaker!  I would love to learn about this!
  
   Given that the firefox phone project is in Portland, that
   PersonalTelco makes free wifi goodness for the city, and my
   own satellite computation delivered by microwaves project(*)
   the sooner we all get savvy about radio and open source, the
   sooner we free the pipes that connect our free software.
  
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Re: [PLUG] AK-47?

2014-08-08 Thread elcaseti .

Open hardware is important to running libre software.  In general, hardware
is getting less open, as the masses buy less desktops  laptops,  more
small, touchscreen devices.


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 In my opinion last night's talk about constructing AK-47s was outside
 the bounds of acceptable PLUG topics.  To my way of thinking, PLUG
 members gather for the purpose of hearing and discussing things related
 to LINUX, UNIX, computers, computing, and open source (which by the way
 is distinct form patent infringement).  No doubt some PLUG members are
 also interested in guns, politics, automobiles, or pedophilia, but those
 subjects are not our common interest and should not be the topic of
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Re: [PLUG] No stream tonight, sorry

2014-08-07 Thread elcaseti .

I'm guessing this also means that she won't want it to be filmed, either?
There's a lot of folks outside the Portland area who would love to see this
talk.

Thanks,

Elcaset


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 Hello all,

 While not entirely a surprise, our speaker prefer not stream tonight's
 talk.

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Re: [PLUG] [PLUG-ANNOUNCE] ANNOUNCEMENT: August PLUG Meeting: An Open Hardware Case Study: The AK-47

2014-08-04 Thread elcaseti .

According to the the initial email in this thread, This already took place
on the 7th of June.  When is it really taking place?  I will be watching
the stream from afar.  Really looking forward to this one!  Thanks,
everybody, for putting this together.


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Word Wizard word.wiz...@comcast.net wrote:

 Guns don't kill people. Microsoft Windows kills people. Trying to get it
 to support legacy hardware nearly killed me.

 On 08/04/2014 07:09 AM, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
  On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 12:15:39AM -0700, Michael Dexter wrote:
  What: Open Sourcing the Modern Battle Rifle: Legal and technical
  implications in home building the semi-automatic AK-47
  I propose we IMMEDIATELY move discussion of this topic to
  plug-talk.  It's gonna get loud ...
 
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Re: [PLUG] [PLUG-ANNOUNCE] ANNOUNCEMENT: August PLUG Meeting: An Open Hardware Case Study: The AK-47

2014-08-04 Thread elcaseti .

If it's ok with you all, I'll forward this announcement to the Black Lodge
Research/Defcon 206 mailing list. Several of us will want to watch the
stream.


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 8:30 PM, elcaseti . elcas...@gmail.com wrote:

 According to the the initial email in this thread, This already took place
 on the 7th of June.  When is it really taking place?  I will be watching
 the stream from afar.  Really looking forward to this one!  Thanks,
 everybody, for putting this together.


 On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Word Wizard word.wiz...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 Guns don't kill people. Microsoft Windows kills people. Trying to get it
 to support legacy hardware nearly killed me.

 On 08/04/2014 07:09 AM, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
  On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 12:15:39AM -0700, Michael Dexter wrote:
  What: Open Sourcing the Modern Battle Rifle: Legal and technical
  implications in home building the semi-automatic AK-47
  I propose we IMMEDIATELY move discussion of this topic to
  plug-talk.  It's gonna get loud ...
 
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Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: August PLUG Meeting: An Open Hardware Case Study: The AK-47

2014-08-04 Thread elcaseti .

Excellent.  Thanks, Micheal.


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Michael Dexter dex...@ambidexter.com
wrote:

 Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement

 Who: Beth 'pidge' Flanagan
 What: Open Sourcing the Modern Battle Rifle: Legal and technical
 implications in home building the semi-automatic AK-47
 Where: PSU, 1930 SW 4th Ave. Room FAB 86-01 (Lower Level)
 When: Thursday, August 7th, 2014 at 7pm
 Why: The pursuit of technology freedom
 Stream: http://pdxlinux.org/live/

 A look at the technical and legal issues surrounding home construction
 of firearms, focusing on semi-automatic AK-47 style rifles.

 Home gun building brings interesting legal and technical challenges
 needed to keep someone both safe and on the right side of the law. This
 requires an individual to be both an amateur metalsmith as well as
 knowing the ins and outs of firearms and international patent law. This
 talk will discuss the building of the semi-automatic AK47 rifle from a
 technical perspective, from demilling parts kits to the construction of
 a fully functional semi-automatic weapon.

 We will also discuss the origins of the AK design, the history of it's
 variants and its current patent status as a public domain firearm
 design, delving into Soviet and Russian Federation patent law as well as
 US firearms law.

 Bio:

 Beth 'pidge' Flanagan is an embedded linux geek who works at Intel's
 Open Source Technology Center on the Yocto Project.

 Beth also gave a keynote at OSCON 2014, Yes, Your Refrigerator Is
 Trying To Kill You...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd8dXzAL-W8


 Many will head to the Lucky Lab NW at 1945 NW Quimby after the meeting.

 Calagator Page: http://calagator.org/events/1250466346

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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu 14.04.1 released

2014-07-26 Thread elcaseti .

There are many Slackware-based distros that I  many other people consider
to be more user-friendly than Slackware.  Give some of those a try, as
well.  Vector is one that's been around for many many years.


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 5:08 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net
wrote:

 On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 06:12:44 -0700 (PDT)
 Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com dijo:

 On Fri, 25 Jul 2014, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 
  I have looked longingly at distros that use a rolling release,
  because I agree that periodic dist-upgrades are a pain. But none of
  them offer the ease of use, the presence in the marketplace, or the
  great community resources of Ubuntu.

 Now you've confused me: do you use the computer for your work/schooling or
 as a end it itself?  Nowadays it's a safe bet that all distributions
 will run the applications you need and want and support the external
 hardware you have sitting around.

 I spend most of my computer time searching the web. And, although I use
 it less for academic purposes, that use is more important. I also use
 it for monitoring medical issues and, although only a couple minutes a
 day, that use is most important of all. Occasionally I also use it for
 entertainment (streaming radio and occasionally viewing a movie).

 The academic issues require being able to write in Spanish, German,
 French and polytonic Greek - switching keyboards. Plus I need to be
 able to enter every character and diacritic in the International
 Phonetic Alphabet. The latter include combining diacritics, special
 glyphs that can be added so they appear on top or below other letters.
 Not only do I need to be able to enter these glyphs but I also need
 them to be displayed properly in my mail client and word processor. In
 addition I need to run some programs for things like drawing phrase
 structures and analyzing speech.

 What's ease of use? Germane to using the system or maintaining the system?
 For the latter just about all window managers and desktop enviornments
 run on every distribution. For maintaining the system -- including
 keeping it secure -- there are probably more than the three approaches
 of which I know: .prm, .deb, and .tgz. You've switched distributions a
 few times but haven't explained why in terms of what you are seeking.

 Ease of use is a slippery term, because it is so dependent on the
 user's abilities and needs as well as personal taste.

 As for abilities, I have tried to compile apps from source half a dozen
 times, and succeeded only once. My most recent failure was due to the
 fact that the application requires QT5, which is not completely
 available in Xubuntu 13.10. And I took a bash class at Free Geek and
 learned a few basics, but otherwise I have no knowledge of scripting or
 programming. I don't even know what the kernel does.

 I am also fussy about the appearance of my desktop. I have a problem
 with distractions, which gets worse with age. I can't tolerate a screen
 full of icons or even wallpaper. My screen is solid white and the only
 thing visible other than the window I am working in is a single panel,
 which I keep on the left side in order to maximize available vertical
 space. When Ubuntu went to Gnome 3 and then to Unity I switched to
 Xfce because icons drive me nuts.

 Presence in the marketplace? What has this to do with your using your
 computers as a means to an end? If this is important, perhaps you
 should take Ed's suggestion in his reply to this thread and switch to
 Slackware; it is, after all, the oldest continuously-available
 distribution, It's been present in the 'marketplace' for many, many
 years.

 I fought with myself when I wrote presence in the marketplace because
 I knew it didn't express precisely what I was trying to communicate.
 Perhaps an example would make my meaning clearer. About a month ago I
 couldn't get my scanner to work. I normally use Xsane for scanning, but
 I knew there were others. Synaptic lists 40,000+ packages and has a
 search function, so it was easy to find programs for scanning.
 I installed a different one, but it couldn't scan either. So then I
 searched the web, including the Ubuntu forums, and discovered a
 free but proprietary app. The app's website had instructions for
 installing it on Ubuntu, but not for any other distro. This sort of
 thing happens all the time. And in this case the developers provided
 only 32- and 64-bit .deb packages; the source was not available.

 Community resources? With mail lists, Web fora, and IRC channels I suspect
 that all distributions have equal support from their community of
 users. Take a look at the list of distribution-specific fora on
 linuxquestions.org.

 Ubuntu has far more users than any other distro and its forums reflect
 that fact. I can post a question on an Ubuntu forum and within an hour
 it will have been read by hundreds of people.

  ... But, I can tell you from our short
 experiences with xubuntu versions on portables here that it was more

Re: [PLUG] Debian firewall for newbies?

2014-07-19 Thread elcaseti .

Leopard flower looks like exactly what I want.  Too bad it is an abandoned
project.  Does anybody know of a similar firewall that is still developed?

Mange Takk


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:

 I know I'm linking to an old thread
 (http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2014-January/079167.html).
 I may have read enough and thought enough in the mean time to ask
 intelligent questions ;)


 Russell Senior wrote:
  Richard == Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net writes:
 
  Richard What I want should be simple, block *EVERYTHING* except
  Richard email, newsgroup, and browsing with SeaMonkey or it's Debian
  Richard blessed counterpart. There will be occasional downloads fro
  Richard Debian repositories.
 
  Firewalls can't (generally) tell what application you are using.  All
  they really see is your network source/destination addresses and ports
  and such.
 
  Is the usb modem connected directly to your laptop?
 
  What is the name of the interface when you are connected?  Maybe ppp0
  or usbnet0 or something?  I haven't dealt with dialup in a while ;-).
 
  Also, just to be clear, are you trying to block connections your
  laptop is making to the world?  Or just connections coming from the
  world to your laptop?
 
 

 I have two use cases:
 At home dialup via USB modem (can find interface name later)
 At local library via WiFi hotspot (network name known)
 (Physically never have an Ethernet connection)

 I understand that I can block *ALL* unsolicited incoming
 connections with iptables.

 Under Windows apps such as Comodo can label an app as trusted.
 I know that isn't simple with Linux.

 I understand that the first pass would be to set User/Group
 permissions so only specific users (e.g. UserAlpha) can access
 the internet.

 However can I set permissions such that UserAlpha has to use a
 specific browser.

 For example I'll have two browsers on my machine:
 BrowserA is known safe.
 BrowserB is experimental and has some feature convenient for
 local files.

 Everyone *EXCEPT* UserA should have access to BrowserB. Clear?

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Re: [PLUG] From Windows to Linux

2014-07-18 Thread elcaseti .

I definitely recommend KDE.  For many of us, it's the only Desktop
environment that makes sense.

Skol!


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Wayne E. Van Loon Sr. w...@pacifier.com
wrote:

 Can't answer all your questions, but I have had experience with Linux
 Mint Mate 32 bit. In my experience, it's not very stable.
 Wayne


 On 07/18/2014 09:34 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
  Windows 7 is the last straw for a friend who has used every
  version since Windows 3.1.
 
  Evidently Windows 7 would not allow him to do something he could
  in previous versions (There was a side comment that having actual
  DOS would be nice.) My proposed comment is that all common Linux
  distros allow opening a command line window. Am I correct?
 
  In the past I've suggested Ubuntu and/or Debian (Gnome3 and Unity
  being nonstarters as DE).
  He is partial to largish systems with many apps, I like light weight.
 
  While chasing answers to various questions I've become confused:
  What is essential difference between
  --Linuxmint Cinnamon
and
Linuxmint Mate
 
  --Kubuntu
and
Debian with KDE desktop
(My impression is mechanics of accessing repositories)
 
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Re: [PLUG] Weird Samba, or is it weird Nautilus?

2014-06-24 Thread elcaseti .

Try Dolphin (KDE's main file browser).  This will let you know if it's
Nautilus or Samba.

Cheers,

Elcaset


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Dick Steffens d...@dicksteffens.com
wrote:

 I've been having trouble connecting to my wife's Windows 7 machine from
 my Ubuntu 14.04 machine.

 When I click Places  Network and then right-click [wife's machine] the
 context menu that pops up offers Open with videos, which it will try
 to do if I let it. Videos (which looks like Totem) comes up and
 complains. It takes several clicks on Close to clear. So, one question
 is, how do I replace Open with Videos with Files, which I believe is
 the correct tool?

 If I right-click and choose Open with the first alternative is Sound
 Converter. After that is Other Application... If I choose Other
 Application... I get:

  No applications available to open smb-server-[wife's machine]
  Click Show other applications, for more options, or Find
 applications online to install a new application.

 Show Other Applications brings up a list that includes two entries
 labeled Files. Sometimes choosing one of them works. Other times
 Nautilus crashes. When I start up Nautilus again, the connection to
 [wife's machine] is there and I can browse to the folder I'm looking for.

 So, where can I find documentation that tells me what is actually going
 on so I can try it from the command line, one step at a time, and see if
 I can figure out why this works sometimes, and not others?

 And, just to make it interesting, I just tried to find the error message
 Videos puts up by right clicking on [wife's machine] and clicking Open
 with videos. Nautilus presented me with a list of folders on [wife's
 machine]. I right-clicked on Users and chose, Open with files, but
 it opened with Videos. The error message:

  An error occurred

  An audio or video stream is not handled due to missing codecs. You
 might need
  to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies

 I tried to close the error message box and found that there are seven
 copies of it. I had to close them in the right order (by trial and
 error) to get them to go away.

 The playlist pane in Videos shows a whole bunch of stuff in the folder
 on [wife's machine].

 I was able to close Videos.

 I tried again, got Videos instead of Files, got more than a dozen error
 message boxes, finally got them all closed, closed Totem, and tried to
 open by choosing Files from the other applications list, and Nautilus
 crashed. After restarting Nautilus the connection to [wife's machine] is
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Re: [PLUG] Weird Samba, or is it weird Nautilus?

2014-06-24 Thread elcaseti .

You're welcome.  Good Luck.


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Dick Steffens d...@dicksteffens.com
wrote:

 On 06/24/2014 02:18 PM, elcaseti . wrote:
  Try Dolphin (KDE's main file browser).  This will let you know if it's
  Nautilus or Samba.

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Re: [PLUG] Torrent issues

2014-06-11 Thread elcaseti .

I've used ktorrent as my primary torrent client for many years.  I haven't
had trouble with it, even with Linuxtracker.  I've been using Mint KDE LTS
all that time.


On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:58 PM, a...@clueserver.org wrote:

  There are new versions of PCLinuxOS (2014.05) which I have been trying
  to download via torrent with Ktorrent. PCLinuxOS uses Linuxtracker to
  host their torrent files. When I open any of the torrent files in
  Ktorrent nothing happens for a long time. Looking at the torrent in the
  Trackers tab it says invalid data in torrent file, and right-clicking
  on the torrent in the list of torrents it says it is unable to contact
  any trackers. After anywhere from an hour or so to several days,
  suddenly the torrent connects and starts downloading.
 
  I can use direct download to get the ISO files, but I usually prefer
  torrents as they are easier on the distro's servers. But the behavior
  of the PCLinuxOS torrents is just weird.
 
  According to Google no one else has ever reported this problem with
  torrents from PCLinuxOS. Does anyone here have any idea what might be
  going on?
 
  Does Ktorrent support magnet links?  They only torrent links I am seeing
  on their site are magnet links and not all clients support them.
 
  Transmission should work fine. (It does on the link I tested.)

 The file name information is mangled on the link I tried. I have seen it
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Re: [PLUG] Should I suggest Ubuntu (which flavor)?

2014-04-19 Thread elcaseti .

In my experience, having people new to Libre operating systems try several
distros, is very likely to overwhelm   cause them to give up on libre
software.  I suggest that they try Kubuntu 14.04 LTS,  stick with only the
LTS version, rather than upgrading to the STS versions in between.  They're
still on XP which means they don't like to mess with all the new bells 
whistles of each short term support release.

Since they're used to Windows XP, Kubuntu is the most similar experience to
that.  Another option would be Mint KDE 17 when it comes out in ~July.

Cheers,

Elcaset


On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 2:19 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote:

 On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 15:13:01 -0500
 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net dijo:

 It said in part I haven't quite given up on XP yet but am trying
 to go to 7.  The problem is that I hate 7 and hate Chrome  Gmail
 even more - but I'm not going over to whatever you happen to use
 - I'm not smart enough to learn something else - and then teach
 Judy. 
 
 I'm a Debian fan.  Judy, his wife, has a M.S. in Music Education
 (major in piano, minor in organ). In my opinion they are both in
 the audience targeted by Microsoft and Canonical. I suspect that
 that anything looking like Gome3 would be a show stopper.

 The first step is to find out if there are any programs that they
 absolutely must use. If any of them lack a Linux alternative, you'll
 have an uphill battle. And having said that, I have found that getting
 a Windows user to start using LibreOffice even while still on a Windows
 machine is a good idea. LibreOffice is the gateway drug to the open
 source world. And for the music major I might suggest Lilypond as well.

 I agree with your estimate that Ubuntu is probably the best option for
 them. As for which buntu to turn them on to, that is kind of tough. I
 haven't used Windows since Windows 2000, so I don't know what the
 desktop looks like. You'd probably want to suggest one that looks the
 most like an XP desktop from the beginning. We know that a Linux
 desktop is highly configurable, but they won't realize that for some
 time after trying Linux. They'll think that the desktop must look like
 it does when it first boots, and if it is too different from XP it will
 turn them off.

 You might send them live DVDs of Ubunu (Unity), Xubuntu, Ubuntu-Gnome,
 Kubuntu and Lubuntu, and have them spend some time in each one.

 It also occurs to me that their motivation for making a move is because
 XP is no longer supported, so they are probably worried about security
 issues. Well, they could use XP forever with great security if they run
 it in Virtualbox on a Linux machine.
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Re: [PLUG] Should I suggest Ubuntu (which flavor)?

2014-04-19 Thread elcaseti .

Also, 1st thing to do with KDE, is to lock the widgets on the desktop, 
also on the tray at the bottom of the screen.


On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 2:44 PM, elcaseti . elcas...@gmail.com wrote:

 In my experience, having people new to Libre operating systems try several
 distros, is very likely to overwhelm   cause them to give up on libre
 software.  I suggest that they try Kubuntu 14.04 LTS,  stick with only the
 LTS version, rather than upgrading to the STS versions in between.  They're
 still on XP which means they don't like to mess with all the new bells 
 whistles of each short term support release.

 Since they're used to Windows XP, Kubuntu is the most similar experience
 to that.  Another option would be Mint KDE 17 when it comes out in ~July.

 Cheers,

 Elcaset


 On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 2:19 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote:

 On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 15:13:01 -0500
 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net dijo:

 It said in part I haven't quite given up on XP yet but am trying
 to go to 7.  The problem is that I hate 7 and hate Chrome  Gmail
 even more - but I'm not going over to whatever you happen to use
 - I'm not smart enough to learn something else - and then teach
 Judy. 
 
 I'm a Debian fan.  Judy, his wife, has a M.S. in Music Education
 (major in piano, minor in organ). In my opinion they are both in
 the audience targeted by Microsoft and Canonical. I suspect that
 that anything looking like Gome3 would be a show stopper.

 The first step is to find out if there are any programs that they
 absolutely must use. If any of them lack a Linux alternative, you'll
 have an uphill battle. And having said that, I have found that getting
 a Windows user to start using LibreOffice even while still on a Windows
 machine is a good idea. LibreOffice is the gateway drug to the open
 source world. And for the music major I might suggest Lilypond as well.

 I agree with your estimate that Ubuntu is probably the best option for
 them. As for which buntu to turn them on to, that is kind of tough. I
 haven't used Windows since Windows 2000, so I don't know what the
 desktop looks like. You'd probably want to suggest one that looks the
 most like an XP desktop from the beginning. We know that a Linux
 desktop is highly configurable, but they won't realize that for some
 time after trying Linux. They'll think that the desktop must look like
 it does when it first boots, and if it is too different from XP it will
 turn them off.

 You might send them live DVDs of Ubunu (Unity), Xubuntu, Ubuntu-Gnome,
 Kubuntu and Lubuntu, and have them spend some time in each one.

 It also occurs to me that their motivation for making a move is because
 XP is no longer supported, so they are probably worried about security
 issues. Well, they could use XP forever with great security if they run
 it in Virtualbox on a Linux machine.
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Re: [PLUG] Announcement: 20th Anniversary Meeting: QA with Linus Torvalds

2014-03-20 Thread elcaseti .

I, too am RSVP-ing.  Really looking forward to this.

Thanks,

Elcaset


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Brian Rohan brianjro...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am officially RSVP'ing  :-D





 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Michael Dexter dex...@ambidexter.com
 wrote:

  On 3/20/14 4:12 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
   Seems like the regulars should get preferential seating ;-)
 
  JJJ raised the point that we may fill the venue.
 
  I am waiting to hear from Dennis what the official capacity is.
 
  I would prefer keep the standard PLUG venue and format which leads me to
  think that RSVP might be the best route.
 
  Can someone knock something out in Django/PHP or you name it on their
  own site? We can use Eventbright or thereabouts but I prefer keep it
  close to home. Time to implement a calagator.org RSVP feature? :)
 
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Re: [PLUG] What's with 'nppdf32Log' and acroread 9?

2014-03-04 Thread elcaseti .

Are there specific functions included in Adobe Acroread that makes it worth
messing with?  Most of the folks that I know (including myself) use libre
software applications like Okular for dealing with PDFs  other file types.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:37 PM, wes p...@the-wes.com wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
 wrote:

  On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Rich Shepard wrote:
 
 Naive as I am, I wonder why a simple 'rm -rf C:\nppdf32Log\' in
   ~/.bash_logout wouldn't work as well.
 
 Actually, the correct command is 'rm -rf
 C:\\nppdf32Log\\debuglog.txt'
  and should probably be preceeded by a test to see if the file is present.
 
  Rich
 
 
 Keith's fix is to stop it from generating those files at all. rm'ing them
 would just delete them, only for them to be created again in the future.

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Re: [PLUG] What's with 'nppdf32Log' and acroread 9?

2014-03-04 Thread elcaseti .

Interesting.  I've never run into a pdf that Okular couldn't read.  Maybe I
will someday.


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.comwrote:

 On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, elcaseti . wrote:

  Are there specific functions included in Adobe Acroread that makes it
  worth messing with? Most of the folks that I know (including myself) use
  libre software applications like Okular for dealing with PDFs  other
 file
  types.

I find myself using three PDF viewers. My preference is xpdf, but many
 files created by the latest M$ tools require epdfview or acroread. I tend
 to
 use them in that order.

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Re: [PLUG] What's with 'nppdf32Log' and acroread 9?

2014-03-04 Thread elcaseti .

most people design PDFs using adobe products  - I wouldn't assume
that's still true.  It might be, but it's hard to know for sure.


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:06 AM, wes p...@the-wes.com wrote:

 well since most people design PDFs using adobe products, they are designed
 specifically to be displayed by other adobe products... so most PDFs are
 more likely to look right in acrobat than okular etc.

 -wes


 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:51 PM, elcaseti . elcas...@gmail.com wrote:

  Are there specific functions included in Adobe Acroread that makes it
 worth
  messing with?  Most of the folks that I know (including myself) use libre
  software applications like Okular for dealing with PDFs  other file
 types.
 
 
  On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:37 PM, wes p...@the-wes.com wrote:
 
   On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
   wrote:
  
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Rich Shepard wrote:
   
   Naive as I am, I wonder why a simple 'rm -rf C:\nppdf32Log\' in
 ~/.bash_logout wouldn't work as well.
   
   Actually, the correct command is 'rm -rf
   C:\\nppdf32Log\\debuglog.txt'
and should probably be preceeded by a test to see if the file is
  present.
   
Rich
   
   
   Keith's fix is to stop it from generating those files at all. rm'ing
 them
   would just delete them, only for them to be created again in the
 future.
  
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Re: [PLUG] Recommended Tablet Computers?

2013-10-01 Thread elcaseti .

http://makeplaylive.com/  This is for the Vivaldi GNU/Linux tablet running
KDE Plasma Active for touch screens.  If you need something right away, 
Android Linux is good enough, then you might try the Nexus 7 Android
tablet.  I'm not sure if Myth TV can be controlled via Android.

Cheers,

Elcaset


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 I'd like to find a tablet computer that I can use with wi-fi at home. I
 don't need a service to go with it, and I'd just as soon have it run a
 flavor of Linux. What's the right set of Google foo to find linux
 compatible tablet hardware? The little bit of looking I've done has some
 old links, or talks more about software.

 I'll want to be able to visit web sites and probably use it for a MythTV
 remote.

 Any recommendations?

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