Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
TLDR

As I said, people leave bleeding...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeJXYhdfR6Q

Ted



-Original Message-
From: PLUG  On Behalf Of Ben Koenig
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 7:42 AM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group 
Subject: Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List 
Meltdown

OMG everyone needs to get over it. Two wrongs don't make a right. 

This obligatory XKCD reference applies to both side of the isle...
https://xkcd.com/169/

-Ben


--- Original Message ---
On Monday, February 27th, 2023 at 7:30 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt 
 wrote:


> I agree this should have been originally posted to plug-talk but it was not, 
> which is why my response was to plug and why this response is also to plug. I 
> am not going to accept a label of "covid denier" since I am not one, nor was 
> I advising people to take no precautions.
> 
> So I'm a "covid denier" eh? OK let's look at this particular logical game, 
> called "cancelling someone"
> 
> The CDC's rules are that that anyone who does not bother with getting 
> additional vaccines is going to get COVID and thus is a COVID denier.
> 
> Except, the CDC also stated that COVID was not in the US in 2019. I got sick 
> in 2019 around Thanksgiving.
> 
> So, if someone wanting to cancel me based on the CDC's rules asserts I had 
> COVID in 2019, and am denying I had it, then they are asserting the CDC was 
> lying. So if the CDC is lying about that, then it's lying about the basis for 
> me being a COVID denier - so they lose.
> 
> However, if that person accepts that I DID NOT have COVID in 2019, then since 
> I did NOT get it even while being exposed (before vaccines were available), 
> and because I have not taken the full course of vaccines, once more the CDC 
> is lying, and so it's also lying about the basis for me being a COVID denier. 
> So, once more - the person trying to cancel me loses the game.
> 
> I've had plenty of experience playing the cancel culture game and most 
> people who play it with me leave bleeding. LOL
> 
> Ted
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: PLUG plug-boun...@lists.pdxlinux.org On Behalf Of Ben Koenig
> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 11:28 PM
> To: Portland Linux/Unix Group plug@lists.pdxlinux.org
> 
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a 
> Mailing List Meltdown
> 
> I've never seen a COVID denier admit that they had COVID.
> 
> 
> -Ben
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> On Sunday, February 26th, 2023 at 10:38 PM, Jake Bottero j...@botteronet.net 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Good grief. A COVID denier, or what I call, a Covidiot.
> > 
> > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023, 20:52 Ted Mittelstaedt t...@portlandia-it.com wrote:
> > 
> > > The last time I had a severe respiratory infection was 
> > > Thanksgiving
> > > 2019 through January 2020. I've only had the 2 original Moderna 
> > > shots. However during the entire pandemic I was still out and 
> > > about
> > > - since you can't do IT consulting on a server that's down remotely.
> > > Even long before the Moderna vaccine came out. I must have been 
> > > exposed dozens of times. Never got it. And have never gotten a 
> > > cold or flu or anything since 2019. I guess I'm a Typhoid Mary, lol.
> > > 
> > > FWIW,
> > > 
> > > I have always felt that there's a TON of stuff that "they" know 
> > > about COVID that is being withheld from the general public. I've 
> > > read so many stories of people repeatedly exposed and not come 
> > > down with it, some completely unvaccinated, and stories of people 
> > > vaccinated to the gills but still got it. I think that there has 
> > > GOT to be a genetic marker that indicates susceptibility to it 
> > > that "they" know about that they are not telling us about. And 
> > > Trump must have been told he was most likely immune or if he did 
> > > get it it would be a light case, otherwise he wouldn't have been 
> > > running around unmasked. I never believed the stories about how 
> > > the best medicine in the world saved him when he got COVID. He 
> > > knew it would be a light case, he wanted to get it to seem like he was 
> > > "one of us" and only after he got it and looked like a fool did he 
> > > backpedal on that.
> > > 
> > > I'll die of old age before knowing the truth but I hope my 
> > > descendants generations files a Freedom of Information request eventually.
> > > 
> > > Ted
> > > 
> > > > Full disclosure: I recently had covid. I was fully (5 times) vaccinated.
> > > > I was exposed on February 8. I started having symptoms on 
> > > > February 10. The symptoms weren't pleasant but remained pretty mild.
> > > > Started testing positive on Feb 12, had pretty much recovered by 
> > > > February 15th, but continued >testing positive until my first 
> > > > negative test on February 20. I tested negative again on the 21st, 
> > > > 22nd, and 25th.


Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-27 Thread Ben Koenig
OMG everyone needs to get over it. Two wrongs don't make a right. 

This obligatory XKCD reference applies to both side of the isle...
https://xkcd.com/169/

-Ben


--- Original Message ---
On Monday, February 27th, 2023 at 7:30 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt 
 wrote:


> I agree this should have been originally posted to plug-talk but it was not, 
> which is why my response was to plug and why this response is also to plug. I 
> am not going to accept a label of "covid denier" since I am not one, nor was 
> I advising people to take no precautions.
> 
> So I'm a "covid denier" eh? OK let's look at this particular logical game, 
> called "cancelling someone"
> 
> The CDC's rules are that that anyone who does not bother with getting 
> additional vaccines is going to get COVID and thus is a COVID denier.
> 
> Except, the CDC also stated that COVID was not in the US in 2019. I got sick 
> in 2019 around Thanksgiving.
> 
> So, if someone wanting to cancel me based on the CDC's rules asserts I had 
> COVID in 2019, and am denying I had it, then they are asserting the CDC was 
> lying. So if the CDC is lying about that, then it's lying about the basis for 
> me being a COVID denier - so they lose.
> 
> However, if that person accepts that I DID NOT have COVID in 2019, then since 
> I did NOT get it even while being exposed (before vaccines were available), 
> and because I have not taken the full course of vaccines, once more the CDC 
> is lying, and so it's also lying about the basis for me being a COVID denier. 
> So, once more - the person trying to cancel me loses the game.
> 
> I've had plenty of experience playing the cancel culture game and most people 
> who play it with me leave bleeding. LOL
> 
> Ted
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: PLUG plug-boun...@lists.pdxlinux.org On Behalf Of Ben Koenig
> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 11:28 PM
> To: Portland Linux/Unix Group plug@lists.pdxlinux.org
> 
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing 
> List Meltdown
> 
> I've never seen a COVID denier admit that they had COVID.
> 
> 
> -Ben
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> On Sunday, February 26th, 2023 at 10:38 PM, Jake Bottero j...@botteronet.net 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Good grief. A COVID denier, or what I call, a Covidiot.
> > 
> > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023, 20:52 Ted Mittelstaedt t...@portlandia-it.com wrote:
> > 
> > > The last time I had a severe respiratory infection was Thanksgiving
> > > 2019 through January 2020. I've only had the 2 original Moderna
> > > shots. However during the entire pandemic I was still out and about
> > > - since you can't do IT consulting on a server that's down remotely.
> > > Even long before the Moderna vaccine came out. I must have been
> > > exposed dozens of times. Never got it. And have never gotten a cold
> > > or flu or anything since 2019. I guess I'm a Typhoid Mary, lol.
> > > 
> > > FWIW,
> > > 
> > > I have always felt that there's a TON of stuff that "they" know
> > > about COVID that is being withheld from the general public. I've
> > > read so many stories of people repeatedly exposed and not come down
> > > with it, some completely unvaccinated, and stories of people
> > > vaccinated to the gills but still got it. I think that there has GOT
> > > to be a genetic marker that indicates susceptibility to it that
> > > "they" know about that they are not telling us about. And Trump must
> > > have been told he was most likely immune or if he did get it it
> > > would be a light case, otherwise he wouldn't have been running
> > > around unmasked. I never believed the stories about how the best
> > > medicine in the world saved him when he got COVID. He knew it would
> > > be a light case, he wanted to get it to seem like he was "one of us" and 
> > > only after he got it and looked like a fool did he backpedal on that.
> > > 
> > > I'll die of old age before knowing the truth but I hope my
> > > descendants generations files a Freedom of Information request eventually.
> > > 
> > > Ted
> > > 
> > > > Full disclosure: I recently had covid. I was fully (5 times) vaccinated.
> > > > I was exposed on February 8. I started having symptoms on February
> > > > 10. The symptoms weren't pleasant but remained pretty mild.
> > > > Started testing positive on Feb 12, had pretty much recovered by
> > > > February 15th, but continued >testing positive until my first
> > > > negative test on February 20. I tested negative again on the 21st, 
> > > > 22nd, and 25th.


Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

I agree this should have been originally posted to plug-talk but it was not, 
which is why my response was to plug and why this response is also to plug.  I 
am not going to accept a label of "covid denier" since I am not one, nor was I 
advising people to take no precautions.

So I'm a "covid denier" eh?  OK let's look at this particular logical game, 
called "cancelling someone"

The CDC's rules are that that anyone who does not bother with getting 
additional vaccines is going to get COVID and thus is a COVID denier.

Except, the CDC also stated that COVID was not in the US in 2019.  I got sick 
in 2019 around Thanksgiving.

So, if someone wanting to cancel me based on the CDC's rules asserts I had 
COVID in 2019, and am denying I had it, then they are asserting the CDC was 
lying.  So if the CDC is lying about that, then it's lying about the basis for 
me being a COVID denier - so they lose.

However, if that person accepts that I DID NOT have COVID in 2019, then since I 
did NOT get it even while being exposed (before vaccines were available), and 
because I have not taken the full course of vaccines, once more the CDC is 
lying, and so it's also lying about the basis for me being a COVID denier.  So, 
once more - the person trying  to cancel me loses the game.

I've had plenty of experience playing the cancel culture game and most people 
who play it with me leave bleeding. LOL

Ted

-Original Message-
From: PLUG  On Behalf Of Ben Koenig
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 11:28 PM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group 
Subject: Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List 
Meltdown

I've never seen a COVID denier admit that they had COVID.


-Ben


--- Original Message ---
On Sunday, February 26th, 2023 at 10:38 PM, Jake Bottero  
wrote:


> Good grief. A COVID denier, or what I call, a Covidiot.
> 
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2023, 20:52 Ted Mittelstaedt t...@portlandia-it.com wrote:
> 
> > The last time I had a severe respiratory infection was Thanksgiving 
> > 2019 through January 2020. I've only had the 2 original Moderna 
> > shots. However during the entire pandemic I was still out and about 
> > - since you can't do IT consulting on a server that's down remotely. 
> > Even long before the Moderna vaccine came out. I must have been 
> > exposed dozens of times. Never got it. And have never gotten a cold 
> > or flu or anything since 2019. I guess I'm a Typhoid Mary, lol.
> > 
> > FWIW,
> > 
> > I have always felt that there's a TON of stuff that "they" know 
> > about COVID that is being withheld from the general public. I've 
> > read so many stories of people repeatedly exposed and not come down 
> > with it, some completely unvaccinated, and stories of people 
> > vaccinated to the gills but still got it. I think that there has GOT 
> > to be a genetic marker that indicates susceptibility to it that 
> > "they" know about that they are not telling us about. And Trump must 
> > have been told he was most likely immune or if he did get it it 
> > would be a light case, otherwise he wouldn't have been running 
> > around unmasked. I never believed the stories about how the best 
> > medicine in the world saved him when he got COVID. He knew it would 
> > be a light case, he wanted to get it to seem like he was "one of us" and 
> > only after he got it and looked like a fool did he backpedal on that.
> > 
> > I'll die of old age before knowing the truth but I hope my 
> > descendants generations files a Freedom of Information request eventually.
> > 
> > Ted
> > 
> > > Full disclosure: I recently had covid. I was fully (5 times) vaccinated.
> > > I was exposed on February 8. I started having symptoms on February 
> > > 10. The symptoms weren't pleasant but remained pretty mild. 
> > > Started testing positive on Feb 12, had pretty much recovered by 
> > > February 15th, but continued >testing positive until my first 
> > > negative test on February 20. I tested negative again on the 21st, 22nd, 
> > > and 25th.


Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-27 Thread Russell Senior
One other heads up: the Portland Building is a Government Building and they
have been increasingly touchy about bringing "weapons" in. I am not sure
what kind of screening there will be, but it might include innocuous
seeming things like little pocket knives. To be safe, it's probably a good
idea to leave such items behind. I lost a little gerber folding pocket
knife (
https://www.gerbergear.com/en-us/shop/knives/folding/ultralight-lst-22-06050)
when I went to visit Senator Wyden's office a few years ago.

You have been warned!

-- 
Russell Senior
russ...@personaltelco.net

On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 4:02 PM Russell Senior 
wrote:

> Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement
>
> Who: Russell Senior
> What: Report on the (bumpy) PLUG hosting transition
> Where: Portland Building, Room 216, 1120 SW 5th Avenue, Portland, OR 97204
> (main entrance is on 5th Avenue)
> When: Thursday, March 2nd, 2023 at 7pm (doors open at 6:30pm)
> Why: The pursuit of technology freedom
>
> This month, at Michael Dexter's invitation, Russell (me) has arranged to
> try out a venue in the City of Portland's Portland Building downtown. It is
> the building with the Portlandia statue over the door.
>
>   https://goo.gl/maps/4vkLkHWRK26SrCPi7
>
> Russell is going to talk about the hosting transition(s) that disrupted
> the PLUG community mailing lists during the first three weeks or so of
> February and how we've mostly fished ourselves out of the mess. And it's
> also a chance to check out this public venue, see what it's like and assess
> its viability going forward. There will be a discussion of that as well.
>
> We have reserved the meeting room from 6:30-9:00 pm. The meeting will get
> started at 7pm. Russell is both host and speaker this month. There were
> some feelers out for other speakers, but for various reasons they haven't
> panned out.
>
> Rules and Requests:
>
> Please bring and properly fit a mask unless actively presenting
>
> PLUG is open to everyone and does not tolerate abusive behavior on its
> mailing lists or at its meetings
>
> Calagator Page:
> http://calagator.org/events/1250480314
>
> Google Maps Link:
> https://goo.gl/maps/4vkLkHWRK26SrCPi7
>
> PLUG Page with information about all PLUG events: http://pdxlinux.org/
>
> Russell Senior
> PLUG Volunteer
>


Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-26 Thread Russell Senior
This is definitely plug-talk material.

Also, please be kind.

-- 
Russell Senior
russ...@personaltelco.net


On Sun, Feb 26, 2023, 22:38 Jake Bottero  wrote:

> Good grief. A COVID denier, or what I call, a Covidiot.
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2023, 20:52 Ted Mittelstaedt 
> wrote:
>
> > The last time I had a severe respiratory infection was Thanksgiving 2019
> > through January 2020.  I've only had the 2 original Moderna shots.
> However
> > during the entire pandemic I was still out and about - since you can't do
> > IT consulting on a server that's down remotely.  Even long before the
> > Moderna vaccine came out.  I must have been exposed dozens of times.
> Never
> > got it.  And have never gotten a cold or flu or anything since 2019.  I
> > guess I'm a Typhoid Mary, lol.
> >
> > FWIW,
> >
> > I have always felt that there's a TON of stuff that "they" know about
> > COVID that is being withheld from the general public.   I've read so many
> > stories of people repeatedly exposed and not come down with it, some
> > completely unvaccinated, and stories of people vaccinated to the gills
> but
> > still got it.  I think that there has GOT to be a genetic marker that
> > indicates susceptibility to it that "they" know about that they are not
> > telling us about.  And Trump must have been told he was most likely
> immune
> > or if he did get it it would be a light case, otherwise he wouldn't have
> > been running around unmasked.  I never believed the stories about how the
> > best medicine in the world saved him when he got COVID.  He knew it would
> > be a light case, he wanted to get it to seem like he was "one of us" and
> > only after he got it and looked like a fool did he backpedal on that.
> >
> > I'll die of old age before knowing the truth but I hope my descendants
> > generations files a Freedom of Information request eventually.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > >Full disclosure: I recently had covid. I was fully (5 times) vaccinated.
> > I was exposed on February 8. I started having symptoms on February 10.
> The
> > >symptoms weren't pleasant but remained pretty mild. Started testing
> > positive on Feb 12, had pretty much recovered by February 15th, but
> > continued >testing positive until my first negative test on February 20.
> I
> > tested negative again on the 21st, 22nd, and 25th.
> >
> >
>


Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-26 Thread Ben Koenig
I've never seen a COVID denier admit that they had COVID.


-Ben


--- Original Message ---
On Sunday, February 26th, 2023 at 10:38 PM, Jake Bottero  
wrote:


> Good grief. A COVID denier, or what I call, a Covidiot.
> 
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2023, 20:52 Ted Mittelstaedt t...@portlandia-it.com wrote:
> 
> > The last time I had a severe respiratory infection was Thanksgiving 2019
> > through January 2020. I've only had the 2 original Moderna shots. However
> > during the entire pandemic I was still out and about - since you can't do
> > IT consulting on a server that's down remotely. Even long before the
> > Moderna vaccine came out. I must have been exposed dozens of times. Never
> > got it. And have never gotten a cold or flu or anything since 2019. I
> > guess I'm a Typhoid Mary, lol.
> > 
> > FWIW,
> > 
> > I have always felt that there's a TON of stuff that "they" know about
> > COVID that is being withheld from the general public. I've read so many
> > stories of people repeatedly exposed and not come down with it, some
> > completely unvaccinated, and stories of people vaccinated to the gills but
> > still got it. I think that there has GOT to be a genetic marker that
> > indicates susceptibility to it that "they" know about that they are not
> > telling us about. And Trump must have been told he was most likely immune
> > or if he did get it it would be a light case, otherwise he wouldn't have
> > been running around unmasked. I never believed the stories about how the
> > best medicine in the world saved him when he got COVID. He knew it would
> > be a light case, he wanted to get it to seem like he was "one of us" and
> > only after he got it and looked like a fool did he backpedal on that.
> > 
> > I'll die of old age before knowing the truth but I hope my descendants
> > generations files a Freedom of Information request eventually.
> > 
> > Ted
> > 
> > > Full disclosure: I recently had covid. I was fully (5 times) vaccinated.
> > > I was exposed on February 8. I started having symptoms on February 10. The
> > > symptoms weren't pleasant but remained pretty mild. Started testing
> > > positive on Feb 12, had pretty much recovered by February 15th, but
> > > continued >testing positive until my first negative test on February 20. I
> > > tested negative again on the 21st, 22nd, and 25th.


Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-26 Thread Jake Bottero
Good grief. A COVID denier, or what I call, a Covidiot.

On Sun, Feb 26, 2023, 20:52 Ted Mittelstaedt  wrote:

> The last time I had a severe respiratory infection was Thanksgiving 2019
> through January 2020.  I've only had the 2 original Moderna shots.  However
> during the entire pandemic I was still out and about - since you can't do
> IT consulting on a server that's down remotely.  Even long before the
> Moderna vaccine came out.  I must have been exposed dozens of times.  Never
> got it.  And have never gotten a cold or flu or anything since 2019.  I
> guess I'm a Typhoid Mary, lol.
>
> FWIW,
>
> I have always felt that there's a TON of stuff that "they" know about
> COVID that is being withheld from the general public.   I've read so many
> stories of people repeatedly exposed and not come down with it, some
> completely unvaccinated, and stories of people vaccinated to the gills but
> still got it.  I think that there has GOT to be a genetic marker that
> indicates susceptibility to it that "they" know about that they are not
> telling us about.  And Trump must have been told he was most likely immune
> or if he did get it it would be a light case, otherwise he wouldn't have
> been running around unmasked.  I never believed the stories about how the
> best medicine in the world saved him when he got COVID.  He knew it would
> be a light case, he wanted to get it to seem like he was "one of us" and
> only after he got it and looked like a fool did he backpedal on that.
>
> I'll die of old age before knowing the truth but I hope my descendants
> generations files a Freedom of Information request eventually.
>
> Ted
>
> >Full disclosure: I recently had covid. I was fully (5 times) vaccinated.
> I was exposed on February 8. I started having symptoms on February 10. The
> >symptoms weren't pleasant but remained pretty mild. Started testing
> positive on Feb 12, had pretty much recovered by February 15th, but
> continued >testing positive until my first negative test on February 20. I
> tested negative again on the 21st, 22nd, and 25th.
>
>


Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
The last time I had a severe respiratory infection was Thanksgiving 2019 
through January 2020.  I've only had the 2 original Moderna shots.  However 
during the entire pandemic I was still out and about - since you can't do IT 
consulting on a server that's down remotely.  Even long before the Moderna 
vaccine came out.  I must have been exposed dozens of times.  Never got it.  
And have never gotten a cold or flu or anything since 2019.  I guess I'm a 
Typhoid Mary, lol.

FWIW,

I have always felt that there's a TON of stuff that "they" know about COVID 
that is being withheld from the general public.   I've read so many stories of 
people repeatedly exposed and not come down with it, some completely 
unvaccinated, and stories of people vaccinated to the gills but still got it.  
I think that there has GOT to be a genetic marker that indicates susceptibility 
to it that "they" know about that they are not telling us about.  And Trump 
must have been told he was most likely immune or if he did get it it would be a 
light case, otherwise he wouldn't have been running around unmasked.  I never 
believed the stories about how the best medicine in the world saved him when he 
got COVID.  He knew it would be a light case, he wanted to get it to seem like 
he was "one of us" and only after he got it and looked like a fool did he 
backpedal on that.

I'll die of old age before knowing the truth but I hope my descendants 
generations files a Freedom of Information request eventually.

Ted

>Full disclosure: I recently had covid. I was fully (5 times) vaccinated. I was 
>exposed on February 8. I started having symptoms on February 10. The >symptoms 
>weren't pleasant but remained pretty mild. Started testing positive on Feb 12, 
>had pretty much recovered by February 15th, but continued >testing positive 
>until my first negative test on February 20. I tested negative again on the 
>21st, 22nd, and 25th.



Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-26 Thread Russell Senior
I don't know anything whatsoever about ventilation in the meeting room. The
building got an extensive remodel, but re-opened right before the pandemic.
In fact, my last public event before the "stay-at-home" entreaties was in
one of the ground floor meeting rooms. So, anything learned during the
pandemic was probably not factored into that remodel. I don't know if/what
has happened since.

I stole the masking language from the last meeting, which seem prudent.

Full disclosure: I recently had covid. I was fully (5 times) vaccinated. I
was exposed on February 8. I started having symptoms on February 10. The
symptoms weren't pleasant but remained pretty mild. Started testing
positive on Feb 12, had pretty much recovered by February 15th, but
continued testing positive until my first negative test on February 20. I
tested negative again on the 21st, 22nd, and 25th. The CDC says I'm safe to
go unmasked in public, but, you know, use your own judgement.

-- 
Russell Senior
russ...@personaltelco.net

On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 5:13 PM Denis Heidtmann 
wrote:

> What is known about the ventilation system in that room?
>
> -Denis
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 4:03 PM Russell Senior 
> wrote:
>
> > Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement
> >
> > Who: Russell Senior
> > What: Report on the (bumpy) PLUG hosting transition
> > Where: Portland Building, Room 216, 1120 SW 5th Avenue, Portland, OR
> 97204
> > (main entrance is on 5th Avenue)
> > When: Thursday, March 2nd, 2023 at 7pm (doors open at 6:30pm)
> > Why: The pursuit of technology freedom
> >
> > This month, at Michael Dexter's invitation, Russell (me) has arranged to
> > try out a venue in the City of Portland's Portland Building downtown. It
> is
> > the building with the Portlandia statue over the door.
> >
> >   https://goo.gl/maps/4vkLkHWRK26SrCPi7
> >
> > Russell is going to talk about the hosting transition(s) that disrupted
> the
> > PLUG community mailing lists during the first three weeks or so of
> February
> > and how we've mostly fished ourselves out of the mess. And it's also a
> > chance to check out this public venue, see what it's like and assess its
> > viability going forward. There will be a discussion of that as well.
> >
> > We have reserved the meeting room from 6:30-9:00 pm. The meeting will get
> > started at 7pm. Russell is both host and speaker this month. There were
> > some feelers out for other speakers, but for various reasons they haven't
> > panned out.
> >
> > Rules and Requests:
> >
> > Please bring and properly fit a mask unless actively presenting
> >
> > PLUG is open to everyone and does not tolerate abusive behavior on its
> > mailing lists or at its meetings
> >
> > Calagator Page:
> > http://calagator.org/events/1250480314
> >
> > Google Maps Link:
> > https://goo.gl/maps/4vkLkHWRK26SrCPi7
> >
> > PLUG Page with information about all PLUG events: http://pdxlinux.org/
> >
> > Russell Senior
> > PLUG Volunteer
> >
>


Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-26 Thread Denis Heidtmann
What is known about the ventilation system in that room?

-Denis

On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 4:03 PM Russell Senior 
wrote:

> Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement
>
> Who: Russell Senior
> What: Report on the (bumpy) PLUG hosting transition
> Where: Portland Building, Room 216, 1120 SW 5th Avenue, Portland, OR 97204
> (main entrance is on 5th Avenue)
> When: Thursday, March 2nd, 2023 at 7pm (doors open at 6:30pm)
> Why: The pursuit of technology freedom
>
> This month, at Michael Dexter's invitation, Russell (me) has arranged to
> try out a venue in the City of Portland's Portland Building downtown. It is
> the building with the Portlandia statue over the door.
>
>   https://goo.gl/maps/4vkLkHWRK26SrCPi7
>
> Russell is going to talk about the hosting transition(s) that disrupted the
> PLUG community mailing lists during the first three weeks or so of February
> and how we've mostly fished ourselves out of the mess. And it's also a
> chance to check out this public venue, see what it's like and assess its
> viability going forward. There will be a discussion of that as well.
>
> We have reserved the meeting room from 6:30-9:00 pm. The meeting will get
> started at 7pm. Russell is both host and speaker this month. There were
> some feelers out for other speakers, but for various reasons they haven't
> panned out.
>
> Rules and Requests:
>
> Please bring and properly fit a mask unless actively presenting
>
> PLUG is open to everyone and does not tolerate abusive behavior on its
> mailing lists or at its meetings
>
> Calagator Page:
> http://calagator.org/events/1250480314
>
> Google Maps Link:
> https://goo.gl/maps/4vkLkHWRK26SrCPi7
>
> PLUG Page with information about all PLUG events: http://pdxlinux.org/
>
> Russell Senior
> PLUG Volunteer
>


[PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-26 Thread Russell Senior
Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement

Who: Russell Senior
What: Report on the (bumpy) PLUG hosting transition
Where: Portland Building, Room 216, 1120 SW 5th Avenue, Portland, OR 97204
(main entrance is on 5th Avenue)
When: Thursday, March 2nd, 2023 at 7pm (doors open at 6:30pm)
Why: The pursuit of technology freedom

This month, at Michael Dexter's invitation, Russell (me) has arranged to
try out a venue in the City of Portland's Portland Building downtown. It is
the building with the Portlandia statue over the door.

  https://goo.gl/maps/4vkLkHWRK26SrCPi7

Russell is going to talk about the hosting transition(s) that disrupted the
PLUG community mailing lists during the first three weeks or so of February
and how we've mostly fished ourselves out of the mess. And it's also a
chance to check out this public venue, see what it's like and assess its
viability going forward. There will be a discussion of that as well.

We have reserved the meeting room from 6:30-9:00 pm. The meeting will get
started at 7pm. Russell is both host and speaker this month. There were
some feelers out for other speakers, but for various reasons they haven't
panned out.

Rules and Requests:

Please bring and properly fit a mask unless actively presenting

PLUG is open to everyone and does not tolerate abusive behavior on its
mailing lists or at its meetings

Calagator Page:
http://calagator.org/events/1250480314

Google Maps Link:
https://goo.gl/maps/4vkLkHWRK26SrCPi7

PLUG Page with information about all PLUG events: http://pdxlinux.org/

Russell Senior
PLUG Volunteer