Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-28 Thread Robert Citek
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 12:45 AM Michael Dexter wrote: > On 9/27/21 6:19 AM, Daniel Ortiz wrote: > >> help when the person's computer doesn't have an OS yet? > >> > > There is a way, but it is less than ideal and may need correction by > people > > who see flaws in the way, but here is a way it

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-28 Thread Michael Dexter
On 9/27/21 6:19 AM, Daniel Ortiz wrote: help when the person's computer doesn't have an OS yet? There is a way, but it is less than ideal and may need correction by people who see flaws in the way, but here is a way it could go. Easy. Dell iDRAC Enterprise. Michael

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-27 Thread Daniel Ortiz
Something I didn't have is they may need help with booting from a usb. That way would use not Chrome Remote Desktop. It would be a shorter procedure with Zoom to have the screen shared before restarting; a smartphone to show the screen when necessary with a pdf guide shared, and the helper

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-27 Thread Daniel Ortiz
> > How can we > help when the person's computer doesn't have an OS yet? > There is a way, but it is less than ideal and may need correction by people who see flaws in the way, but here is a way it could go. One possible list of Equipment: Laptop or Desktop to install it on. Laptop or Desktop for

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-23 Thread Ben Koenig
-Ben ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, September 23rd, 2021 at 4:01 PM, Michael Dexter wrote: > On 9/23/21 6:22 AM, Daniel Ortiz wrote: > > > Another suggestion you could consider doing is making the meetings into a > > > > YouTube live and putting the meeting link in the

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-23 Thread Michael Dexter
On 9/23/21 6:22 AM, Daniel Ortiz wrote: Another suggestion you could consider doing is making the meetings into a YouTube live and putting the meeting link in the description. It might not solve your problem of low attendance, but it is an idea than can be scrutinized. It also doesn't have to be

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-23 Thread Daniel Ortiz
Another suggestion you could consider doing is making the meetings into a YouTube live and putting the meeting link in the description. It might not solve your problem of low attendance, but it is an idea than can be scrutinized. It also doesn't have to be YouTube live if the price of helping

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-22 Thread Tomas Kuchta
I love technical topics, even when it is outside of my core experience. They are great for discovering new knowledge and tech. If I could have a wish it would be more of hyperscale/cloud infrastructure talks. What are the trends and useful mainstream tech, how to practically and easily maintain

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-22 Thread Ben Koenig
The use of online meetings for troubleshooting is not an either/or question. Some topics require in person assistance. Some topics can be easily handled through via chat. Some people can't show up at Free Geek on the weekend. Instead of approaching this in a one-size-fits-all manner, lets try

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-22 Thread wes
+1 to this. If anyone knows of another potential venue, even temporarily until Free Geek is available again, please speak up. I know of places in Vancouver we could use, but I doubt that works for most people. -wes On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 2:47 PM Russell Senior wrote: > I think the primary

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-22 Thread Russell Senior
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 2:46 PM Paul Heinlein wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > A virtual clinic is a possible alternative, but I can foresee some > > difficulties. For example, quite often at the clinics we have someone > > bring in a computer and want to install

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-22 Thread Russell Senior
I think the primary obstacle to an in-person clinic right now is that FreeGeek is still mostly closed. At least, not hosting events, afaik. On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 2:38 PM John Jason Jordan wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 09:46:56 -0700 > Michael Dexter dijo: > > >On 9/22/21 5:52 AM, Rich

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-22 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, John Jason Jordan wrote: A virtual clinic is a possible alternative, but I can foresee some difficulties. For example, quite often at the clinics we have someone bring in a computer and want to install Linux on it. Usually the person has already tried and failed. Usually we

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-22 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 09:46:56 -0700 Michael Dexter dijo: >On 9/22/21 5:52 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: >> In the late 1990s and early 2000s I attended PLUG meetings in the PSU >> Library and the clinics at the schools. Both were where I learned a >> lot about linux. >> >> Now the meetings are

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-22 Thread Ben Koenig
Building on what Rich mentioned, I'd like to see the PLUG Clinic expand into the online space. The deep dive presentations are great but sometimes you want to focus down a single technical issue. Email isnt always the most effective way to troubleshoot a problem. -Ben Original

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-22 Thread Michael Dexter
On 9/22/21 5:52 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: In the late 1990s and early 2000s I attended PLUG meetings in the PSU Library and the clinics at the schools. Both were where I learned a lot about linux. Now the meetings are computer-specific and highly technical. I cannot benefit from that information

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-22 Thread Dick Steffens
On 9/22/21 6:48 AM, Ben Koenig wrote: Building on what Rich mentioned, I'd like to see the PLUG Clinic expand into the online space. The deep dive presentations are great but sometimes you want to focus down a single technical issue. Email isnt always the most effective way to troubleshoot a

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-22 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, Michael Dexter wrote: Is this a mirror on the broader situation, or is this not what you want from PLUG? Michael, I'm not a computer professional or work in a business where computers are the end. For my business they are a means to an end, a critical tool. In the late

[PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

2021-09-22 Thread Michael Dexter
Hello all, I hope you're all doing great. The "this should be all behind us in three or so months" pandemic has certainly gone on a wee longer than expected. This has obviously meant a hard stop to in-person PLUG meetings with only the vaguest idea of when in-person events will return as