Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

> On Dec 15, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Russell Senior wrote: >> >> To be accurate, I’m in a no-pc zone. We have Macs and Linux here only. I’ve >> actually only spent an hour or two on the m$ side of the world. No DOS, no >> windows. I was testing on a Mac because it was

Re: [PLUG] Stuff that I no longer need [all items now spoken for]

On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 16:04:02 -0800 John Jason Jordan dijo: >Free to a loving home: > >The switches all have their wall warts and their documentation, and the >Netgears even have their original boxes. I no longer need them because >my shiny new Trendnet from Newegg arrove today

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

> When you say you "could ping" to somewhere, it is also important to > say where you are pinging from. That is, from the router? from a > device on your LAN? from a device on the DSL modem's LAN? > the question was — "with your router connected to DSL modem and a PC to LAN:” I took that

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On 12/15/2017 05:12 PM, Russell Senior wrote: You can totally run a real 1960's BASIC on linux with a PDP-8 emulator. I have a PiDP-8 that I built from a kit from Switzerland. http://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-8 It uses a Raspberry Pi as a host system for the simulator, a

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

> On Dec 15, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Russell Senior wrote: > > Fwiw, I am very interested to hear why a PC works and your router does > not, because that makes zero sense from your description. > > Russell To be accurate, I’m in a no-pc zone. We have Macs and Linux here

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

You have/had DNS resolution problem. Couple of ways to solve that on the router: A) let router pick DNS by DHCP from WAN side B) configure the router to use ISPs DNS servers by typing in their IPs. You could get them by: cat /etc/resolved.conf while being connected to the DSL modem directly. C)

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Bob Vinisky wrote: > From earlier tests: Yes I could ping both the LAN and WAN ip’s of the router > (192.168.107.2 and 192,168,1,2), the ip of the DSL modem, 192.168.1.1. Could > not get google, from either the ip or

[PLUG] 2017: A year of highs and lows for Linux and open source

"Ah, 2017, it was a good year for Linux—one that continued the solidification of the open source platform on so many levels. From the consumer mobile space to supercomputers, Linux dominated certain sectors in a way no other platform could." Full article => https://goo.gl/xiuCjR For me

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

You can totally run a real 1960's BASIC on linux with a PDP-8 emulator. I have a PiDP-8 that I built from a kit from Switzerland. http://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-8 It uses a Raspberry Pi as a host system for the simulator, a slightly modified version of SIMH:

Re: [PLUG] com port in guest to usb in host (virtual box)

Denis, I believe "-parenb" means no parity, as shown in your stty -a output, looks good to me. I'm just guessing, not having anything serial or scope-ial to hook up to my linux box at the moment. The cooked/raw/echo/xyzzy settings are way beyond my scope of experience. NealS

Re: [PLUG] com port in guest to usb in host (virtual box)

>From man stty: [-]parenb generate parity bit in output and expect parity bit in input [-]parodd set odd parity (or even parity with '-') I thought the "-" preceded every control; not meaning negative. Your interpretation makes more sense. The parodd entry

Re: [PLUG] com port in guest to usb in host (virtual box)

Denis, In Unix-manpage-speak, [] around something means it's optional. Regards, NealS ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

Fwiw, I am very interested to hear why a PC works and your router does not, because that makes zero sense from your description. Russell On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Bob Vinisky wrote: > >> On Dec 15, 2017, at 2:01 PM, Tomas Kuchta

[PLUG] Stuff that I no longer need

Free to a loving home: The switches all have their wall warts and their documentation, and the Netgears even have their original boxes. I no longer need them because my shiny new Trendnet from Newegg arrove today and is working fine. Dynex DX-GB8PRT 8-port gigabit ethernet switch

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

Thanks Bob, This should absolutely work - Unless you have some mis-configured routing or DNS. Despite what you hear about the use of ISP gear only. Let's diagnose this a little - with your router connected to DSL modem and a PC to LAN: * Can you ping 8.8.8.8 ? * Can you ping 192.168.107.1 ? *

[PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

The thread titled "Learning programming" prompts to ask. I'm looking for a _simple_ BASIC, similar to "Dartmouth BASIC" or "Lawrence Livermore BASIC", to run on my Debian machine. Modern Basic's are too powerful and filled with glitter. I have mind some simple scripts. I'm learning Tcl which

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On Fri, 15 Dec 2017, Richard Owlett wrote: IOW, the suitable tool for my needs is a tack hammer not a sledgehammer. smaller is *BETTER*! Consider bash scripts with the assistance of sed, awk, grep, and other tools you already have in your debian installation. The entire UNIX/linux system is

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

Perhaps basic256 is close to what you are looking for. It is packaged for Debian so it should be easy enough to check out. apt-cache show basic256 http://www.basic256.org/index_en -- David On Fri, 2017-12-15 at 16:47 +0200, John Sechrest wrote: > What is the goal of the basic? > > Just

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

What is the goal of the basic? Just dinking around? Or creating value of some kind? Or solving some particular problem? The default language that I point purple to is JavaScript, since it is so ubiquitous and since it solves many problems in the default user interface these days. It looks

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

Bob Vinisky(b...@cherrycreekdaffodils.com)@Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 06:32:02PM -0800: > > > Can you ping the internet from the router? It is plugged in directly. > > > > Are you sure you haven't scrambled your ethernet cables? > > > Yes and no From the router, or any other machine on the LAN I

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On 12/15/2017 08:47 AM, John Sechrest wrote: What is the goal of the basic? Chuckle. I intentionally capitalized BASIC to be recognized as an acronym. Just dinking around? BASIC is the appropriate tool. E.G. it's silly and often counter productive to use a cannon for an annoying

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On 12/15/2017 09:10 AM, David Bridges wrote: Perhaps basic256 is close to what you are looking for. It is packaged for Debian so it should be easy enough to check out. apt-cache show basic256 http://www.basic256.org/index_en -- David *YES* That page looks fascinating - leaving for

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On 12/15/2017 09:10 AM, David Bridges wrote: Perhaps basic256 is close to what you are looking for. It is packaged for Debian so it should be easy enough to check out. apt-cache show basic256 http://www.basic256.org/index_en Just downloaded it. Much more powerful than either of those I

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

Bob, Russell was asking a few questions and after this long, there is still no clear and definite answer. Could you please try to contain your frustrations and answer that, and only that? There is no help possible without knowing the facts. 1. What is this "dal" - what does that abbreviation

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

BASIC was great when it was in style. Millions of students got their start with BASIC, and to many it was their intro to the computer business. This book went into 3 Editions and many foreign translations. I miss BASIC. . David A. Lien - W7DAL

Re: [PLUG] Learning programming

Many universities offer most of their CS lectures online. I've audited a few mobile development classes this way in the last few years. For example here is Stanford's intro to computer science course: https://see.stanford.edu/Course/CS106A Note that college courses tend to be more algorithms and

Re: [PLUG] Learning programming

Google has extended the #GrowWithGoogle scholarship challenge in partnership with @Udacity until December 31. You can apply here - https://udacity.com/grow-with-google I participated in the beta testing of the beginning Android Google/Udacity online nano course, and it was very well done. Much

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/15/2017 08:47 AM, John Sechrest wrote: > >> What is the goal of the basic? >> > > Chuckle. I intentionally capitalized BASIC to be recognized as an acronym. > > >> Just dinking around? >> > > BASIC is the

Re: [PLUG] com port in guest to usb in host (virtual box)

On 12/14/17 21:24, Denis Heidtmann wrote: > Measuring with a 'scope with the laptop issuing the command sigrok-cli > --driver mastech-mas345:conn=/dev/ttyUSB0 --samples 10: > > triggering on DTR > > DTR goes from -6.6V to +7.6V and remains there 'till 9.64s > RX goes from -2.6V to +6.4V for

[PLUG] count files owned by each uid

Hi, Can anyone suggest a quick way to get a count of the number files owned by each uid, or alternatively, print each unique uid that exists in the filesystem? Bonus points for doing the same thing for gid's in the same pass. thanks, galen -- Galen Seitz gal...@seitzassoc.com

Re: [PLUG] count files owned by each uid

On 12/15/17 11:55, Galen Seitz wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone suggest a quick way to get a count of the number files owned > by each uid, or alternatively, print each unique uid that exists in the > filesystem? Bonus points for doing the same thing for gid's in the same > pass. Thanks for the

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 7:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > ... > > > Or solving some particular problem? >> > > Actually a loosely defined set of problems. > I've often wished for BASIC to write a simple script. > There are a proliferate plethora of corpulent Basic's out

Re: [PLUG] count files owned by each uid

First knee jerk response is find. Do you just want normal files? or other things too, like directories, devices, links, et al? On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Galen Seitz wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone suggest a quick way to get a count of the number files owned > by each

Re: [PLUG] count files owned by each uid

On Fri, 15 Dec 2017, Galen Seitz wrote: Hi, Can anyone suggest a quick way to get a count of the number files owned by each uid, or alternatively, print each unique uid that exists in the filesystem? Bonus points for doing the same thing for gid's in the same pass. Quickly? Probably not.

Re: [PLUG] com port in guest to usb in host (virtual box)

Galen, thanks for the Clinic offer, but I will not be able to make it there. Since my last report I have set the baud rate and bits: denis@denis-ThinkPad-L420:~$ stty -F/dev/ttyUSB0 -a speed 600 baud; rows 0; columns 0; line = 0; intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^?; kill = ^U; eof = ^D; eol = ;

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote: > 1. What is this "dal" - what does that abbreviation mean? dal is his phone autocorrecting DSL, I think. Also "sip" == ISP. Russell ___ PLUG mailing list

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On 12/15/2017 03:17 PM, Neal wrote: On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 7:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: ... Or solving some particular problem? Actually a loosely defined set of problems. I've often wished for BASIC to write a simple script. There are a proliferate plethora