[PLUG] Google Earth Pro crash

2019-08-28 Thread Rich Shepard
I've not had GEPro crash before, but today it did on the 64-bit desktop with the 4.4.190 kernel. GEPro loaded, I put a city name in the search box and just as the view closes in on the city the application shuts down. Starting GEPro from a shell prompt with strace allowed me to capture the

Re: [PLUG] Google Earth Pro crash [UPDATE]

2019-08-28 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019, Rich Shepard wrote: I also have the crash log google provided in ~/.googleearth/crashlogs/. Should I send that on to Google? Well, this is stange. Looking on the Web how to send crash reports to Google I learned that I should turn on usage and crash reporting

Re: [PLUG] When Mailman list dies ...

2019-09-01 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 1 Sep 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: Just think about the CPU time Google spends parsing those undead reminders. Well, I don't use google's mail and the two mail lists that pop out of their graves on the first of each month are ledger123.org and the user mail list

Re: [PLUG] When Mailman list dies ...

2019-09-01 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 1 Sep 2019, wes wrote: It's not really dead. It's undead! Zombie listserv aahh! wes, That's what I thought. Thanks, Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] When Mailman list dies ...

2019-09-01 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 1 Sep 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: As for your curiosity, someone probably never bothered to turn off the mail server. Ben, In one case, there was a single mail list served by Mailman and I would have expected the owner to shut down Mailman when he cancelled that one list. In the other

Re: [PLUG] What could have caused my flash drive to be owned by root?

2019-09-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Rich Shepard wrote: Why ownership changed to root I can't explain, but you could access it when owned by root.root if the 'other' execute permssion was set; e.g., 744. Oops! That should be 711 (rwx--x--x), or chmod +x . Rich

Re: [PLUG] When Mailman list dies ...

2019-09-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 1 Sep 2019, wes wrote: Most likely answer is that the operator did not actually delete the mailing list from Mailman. Possibly simply disabled incoming delivery, which effectively disables the list while maintaining the message archive and subscriber list, etc. Wes, Okay. I didn't

Re: [PLUG] What could have caused my flash drive to be owned by root?

2019-09-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 1 Sep 2019, John Jason Jordan wrote: drwx-- 2 root root 4096 Sep 1 17:11 256GB-2 John, Why ownership changed to root I can't explain, but you could access it when owned by root.root if the 'other' execute permssion was set; e.g., 744. Access to directories by non-oweners

Re: [PLUG] When Mailman list dies ...

2019-09-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, elcaseti . wrote: So, is there any relatively easy way to put a stop to this useless once a month email? What I've done is add the mail list's name to /etc/postfix/header_checks defining Discard as the action rather than Reject. This works if you run your own MTA. Rich

Re: [PLUG] Xubuntu Software Updater Fails

2019-09-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Dick Steffens wrote: This afternoon I ran     sudo dpkg --configure -a Among all the rest of the lines of text I found: Error: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) I searched on that and found an instruction to run: sudo dpkg --configure -a A

Re: [PLUG] Firefox or security problems/

2019-08-22 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 22 Aug 2019, John Jason Jordan wrote: The problem remains trying to figure out which setting it is. Later today I will rename the new .mozilla folder that it created just now, then poke around in the old one to see if I get any clues. The answer is in there somewhere. John, Copy one

Re: [PLUG] Need OpenGL driver for AMD GPU 699f (rev c7)

2019-09-06 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 6 Sep 2019, John Meissen wrote: https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-2nd-generation-vega/amd-radeon-2nd-generation-vega/amd-radeon-vii Thanks, John. For some reason Google Earth Pro frequently shuts down when I try to zoom in the image. This is apparently related to not

Re: [PLUG] Need OpenGL driver for AMD GPU 699f (rev c7)

2019-09-10 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: woah woah WOAH. Slow it down for a second, you guys are making this way too complicated. post the output of the following commands, run in succession: $ uname -a $ lsmod | grep amdgpu $ glxinfo | grep Open That's all I need to find out what is going on.

Re: [PLUG] Need OpenGL driver for AMD GPU 699f (rev c7)

2019-09-10 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: If upgrading to -current is an option, the hardware you have will work out-of-the-box. Ben, Over all the years I've run Slackware I've read that -current should not be used on production machines. Since this new desktop will be (as soon as I get backup

Re: [PLUG] Need OpenGL driver for AMD GPU 699f (rev c7)

2019-09-11 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: Yup. I'm running -current on 2 machines and it kicks my ass every now and then. But these aren't production machines, so it's not a big deal. Ben, That seems to be common with -current over the years. One thing I didn't mention is that it is

Re: [PLUG] Need OpenGL driver for AMD GPU 699f (rev c7)

2019-09-09 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 8 Sep 2019, King Beowulf wrote: Your [AMD/ATI] Device 699f Radeon7 (Vega) needs to be using the amdgpu module. VMware above is incorrect. As root, # lspci -v | less 08:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device 699f (rev c7) (prog-if 00 [VGA

Re: [PLUG] Need OpenGL driver for AMD GPU 699f (rev c7)

2019-09-09 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 9 Sep 2019, King Beowulf wrote: whoops. That means whatever GPU you are using isn't that AMD GPU. What does # lspci -vn |grep VGA give? It will list all VGA controllers the kernel finds. Ed, # lspci -vn | grep VGA 08:00.0 0300: 1002:699f (rev c7) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) #

Re: [PLUG] Need OpenGL driver for AMD GPU 699f (rev c7)

2019-09-09 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 9 Sep 2019, Rich Shepard wrote: Gigabyte Radeon RX-550 video card. AMD's web site has drivers for the Radeon RX-550 for RHEL/CentOS, and Ubuntus but not one specifically for Slackware. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http

[PLUG] Backup software

2019-09-09 Thread Rich Shepard
I think the last piece to be installed and running on my new desktop server/workstation is backup software. I've used dirvish for at least 9 years (the date on /usr/sbin/dirvish is Nov 9, 2010) and it's worked just fine while I've never needed a bare metal restoration. It runs every day at 00:30

Re: [PLUG] Backup software

2019-09-09 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 9 Sep 2019, tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com wrote: This maybe not useful to you - if you are not using Btrfs Tomas, Nope, ext4. I didn't realize that I should have mentioned the filesystem type when I wrote. Thanks, Rich ___ PLUG mailing

Re: [PLUG] Need OpenGL driver for AMD GPU 699f (rev c7)

2019-09-09 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 9 Sep 2019, King Beowulf wrote: OK, you have a polaris 12 "Lexa" (GCN 4th gen) that uses the linux kernel amdgpu.ko and the X.org amdgpu_drv.so and radeonsi drivers and is relatively "new". Ed, If you say so. Is that a generic brand and model for the graphic card I have? lsmod has

Re: [PLUG] Backup software

2019-09-09 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 9 Sep 2019, David Bridges wrote: I use bacula on hundreds of linux systems and it works like a charm but it is more of a backup server solution instead of a single computer backup solution. It can be used for bare metal restores with some configuration. Normally bacula is ran on a

Re: [PLUG] nohup question

2019-09-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com wrote: This would be the time to bring up - screen or tmux sessions as an alternatives to nohup. If you logout/disconnect from screen/tmux sessions - you can reconnect later to see the progress or how it all finished. Tomas, I understand

[PLUG] nohup question

2019-09-17 Thread Rich Shepard
I have 8 large files (2.5-3.6G each) that I'd like to download overnight as each takes 30+ minutes on my 1.8GB FiOS line. The list is in a bash script using wget for each file name. Do I use nohup when enter the script name on the command line or for each wget instance within the script?

Re: [PLUG] nohup question

2019-09-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, Rich Shepard wrote: each takes 30+ minutes on my 1.8GB FiOS line. The list is in a bash script Oops! That's 1.8MB/sec. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] nohup question

2019-09-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, Galen Seitz wrote: Unless you're planning to logout after executing the script, nohup should not be needed. galen, I want to use nohup so I can log out of the system and let it continue downloading the files. Thanks, Rich ___

Re: [PLUG] nohup question

2019-09-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, wes wrote: To answer your original question, you would use nohup when invoking the script. If you're happy with this option even with all the limitations it brings, by all means, go for it. wes, That's what I thought. I don't care about tracking progress when I'm

Re: [PLUG] Procmail recipe not followed

2019-09-18 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Paul Heinlein wrote: The use of alpine is unlikely to relevant to your problem. Paul, I agree. It's a procmail issue but I added the MUA to avoid that being considered. My first suspicion would be that the list owners changed or upgraded their mailing list software.

Re: [PLUG] nohup question

2019-09-18 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Ken Stephens wrote: Why not let cron run the downloads? Ken, Because this is a once-only (perhaps twice) download of spatial data files. The files are ~1.5-3.5GB in size and take about 30 minutes each to download. I worked on already available data yesterday and decided

[PLUG] Procmail recipe not followed

2019-09-18 Thread Rich Shepard
I use alpine as my MUA. Starting late last week messages from a mail list are delivered by procmail to an incorrect file. The recipe for that mail list has worked fine for years and I've no idea why it stopped working and put incoming messages in another mail list's file rather than the default,

[PLUG] Need OpenGL driver for AMD GPU 699f (rev c7)

2019-09-06 Thread Rich Shepard
lspci reports that my Radeon7 desktop has this VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device 699f (rev c7). When I look on the AMD web site graphics page I see marketing names but cannot associate 699f(rev c7) with the appropriate one. I'd like advice on how to

[PLUG] C program: configures & builds, segfaults on invocation

2019-08-07 Thread Rich Shepard
I've been working with the developer on this and we're both out of ideas so I'm looking for suggestions from experienced C coders here before reaching out on LQ. I've run jpilot (the Palm PIM desktop) since the Palm Pilot Personal came out. It has built and run on Slackware since 8.0 on my

Re: [PLUG] C program: configures & builds, segfaults on invocation

2019-08-07 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 7 Aug 2019, Galen Seitz wrote: There are plenty of search results when searching for 'SIGSEGV in __strftime_internal () from /lib64/libc.so.6'. I suggest perusing them. They are unlikely to be related to jpilot, but it still might give you an idea why there is a problem. Galen, Will

Re: [PLUG] C program: configures & builds, segfaults on invocation

2019-08-07 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 7 Aug 2019, Paul Heinlein wrote: If you run "ldd /path/to/jpilot" on the machine where it segfaults and on a machine where it runs successfully, do you see any meaningful differences? Paul, Meaningful? But one difference. The last line of the sorted 32-bit (salmo) list is

Re: [PLUG] Setting emacs frame size

2019-08-07 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 7 Aug 2019, Johnathan Mantey wrote: I use the following to make frame changes: (setq default-frame-alist (append default-frame-alist '((background-color . "black") (foreground-color . "green3" Johnathan,

[PLUG] Setting emacs frame size

2019-08-07 Thread Rich Shepard
In ~/.emacs on the desktop with the 19" wide screen are these two stanzas: (setq initial-frame-alist '( (minibuffer . t) (width . 110) (height . 53) ) ) (setq default-frame-alist '( (minibuffer . t) (width . 110) (height . 53) (border-color

Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, David Bridges wrote: In an earlier reply I mentioned using a file to exclude things that is referenced on the rsync command line. I know that things can be excluded as an argument on the command line but I've been tripped up doing it like that in the past. I would suggest

Re: [PLUG] Strange Google Earth exit behavior

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Dick Steffens wrote: I don't remember setting it up, but just using my login password worked for me. Dick, Why enter anything? Is it locally stored or does Google take it somewhere? A local application should not need a password. Guess I'll keep pressing the 'Cancel'

Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Smith, Cathy wrote: I've always found it useful to test my rsync syntax with a subset of the data or the --dry-run option first. Various OS implement rsync a tiny bit differently. There are a lot of good rsync tutorials online which have working examples. Cathy, Good

[PLUG] Strange Google Earth exit behavior

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard
The latest SBo offering for 64-bit Google Earth is installed on the new 64-bit desktop and works fine. Except, when I log out a dialog box opens asking for which keypass password I want to use. As I've never before seen this behavior on the 32-bit desktop or the 64-bit laptops I've no idea why

Re: [PLUG] Strange Google Earth exit behavior

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: Is it a gnome keyring prompt? That's usually what people see for googs earths. Ben, No clue. The text in the dialog box reads, "Choose password for new keyring. An application wants to create a newkeyring called 'Default' enter the password you want to

Re: [PLUG] Strange Google Earth exit behavior

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: There's a way to make it stop. I bet you asked about this years ago and implemented the workaround on your other systems. Not too likely as I've not before encountered it, unless it was about 20 years ago and I've forgotten it since then. My solution

[PLUG] Ping works but rsync and ssh don't

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard
A strange behavior just appeared on the LAN. After setting ssh-add to both desktops after logging in I was able to scp a file from salmo (32-bit) to baetis (64-bit). A while later trying to rsync baetis' /data directory with salmo's data/ directory failed because of a broken pipe/host not found

Re: [PLUG] Ping works but rsync and ssh don't [FIXED]

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Russell Senior wrote: Your actual command line would be a good place to start. Russell, I was just about to post the attempt and that's when I saw the syntax error. Mea culpa! Thanks, Rich ___ PLUG mailing list

Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com wrote: you can use --exclude dirOrFileName multiple times - it will form a list From the target machine I tried to rsync all of my home directory from salmo, except for the data/ subdirectory but my syntax is wrong. On the source host data/

Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Tomas Kuchta wrote: You need to quote the remote host:'*' like this to prevent your local shell expanding it locally instead of remotely. Tomas, Okay. That makes a lot of sense. Thank you, Rich ___ PLUG mailing list

Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: Stop using wildcards and the . when using rsync. It causes problems for the human element. Specify the folders using ABSOLUTE pathnames and always include the trailing / Well, I'm the only human element involved and I have no problems. When synchronizing

Re: [PLUG] Strange Google Earth exit behavior

2019-08-01 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, King Beowulf wrote: Close G-E. On Xfce (and others) got to Settings Manager -> Session and Startup -> Application Autostart tab. See if any of the gnome keyring stuff is checked. unchack all. Then check Session tab and quit any keyring programs. Ed, Well, there's a bunch

[PLUG] Google-Earth Pro .geprint image format

2019-08-01 Thread Rich Shepard
Google's .geprint image format is the only one available when saving an image (or printing, apparently). My web search on how to view these files on a linux system produces answers only applicable to windows (plus spurious junk having nothing to do with the search term.) Looking at imagemagick's

Re: [PLUG] Google-Earth Pro .geprint image format [RESOLVED]

2019-08-01 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, John Meissen wrote: https://support.google.com/earth/thread/3652229?hl=en "The .geprint files are the configuration files for the Map Options pull down menu. They aren't an image file.  They let you save different configuration settings.  Once you have the Map Options

[PLUG] C program: builds but segfaults when invoked

2019-08-02 Thread Rich Shepard
I'm working with the developer on this but we could benefit from additional ideas from experienced C programmers. I use jpliot, the desktop application for the Palm Pilot PIMs, every day (and have since the first Palm Personal). It's a mission critical application for my business as well as for

Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options? [UPDATE]

2019-08-05 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: Those kernel warnings say EXT4, but your fstab and fsck usage all say ext3. Are you absolutely sure this volume is ext3? Because the kernel has other ideas Yes. This host, and the external drive, were formatted as ext3. Only my 64-bit hosts are

Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options? [UPDATE]

2019-08-05 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: Basically: - your logwatch messages says you have a problem with the EXT4 filesystem on /dev/sdb. - you say /dev/sdb is formatted as EXT3. Ben, That's why I'm trying to understand why logwatch started showing this warning last week. There is no /dev/sdb

Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options? [UPDATE]

2019-08-05 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: I further suspect the error from logwatch is an event in history that has long since been resolved and it just continues to report it as a recent event. Rodney, I thought that was the case but not sufficiently knowledgeable to know for sure. Also,

Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options? [UPDATE]

2019-08-05 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: However to answer your question of "why am I seeing this", note that you are mounting EXT3 using the EXT4 drivers. Which is not the result of anything I've explicitly done. When the system started doing this I have no idea. Thanks, Rich

Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options? [UPDATE]

2019-08-05 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019, Galen Seitz wrote: As Rodney says, I think this error is likely a one-off. With a removable drive, an error like this isn't particularly unusual. You may want to consider rebooting. This isn't necessarily related, but when using a scsi tape drive, I would occasionally get

Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options? [UPDATE]

2019-08-05 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, Rich Shepard wrote: My daily logwatch report shows kernel errors on the external backup drive, /dev/sdb/, an ext3 file system. It's been a very long time since I had occasion to manually run fsck. Yesterday, thanks to advice from Wes, Cathy, and Rodney I ran fsck

Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options?

2019-08-04 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: fsck -p is the proper normal invocation of fsck, and only if absolutely necessary should a fsck -y be run, and only as a very last resort. Rodney, Valid point. Thank you. No indication that fsck barfed on its way through the backup drive.

Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options?

2019-08-04 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, Smith, Cathy wrote: I've just always used fsck -y Cathy, Then that's good enough for me, too. Best regards, Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options?

2019-08-04 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, wes wrote: My best guess is that it's simple luck: on the occasion(s) you wanted to access the drive manually, it happened to be identified as sdb. Today, it happens to have been assigned sdc. This inability to predict which device name will be assigned to a given device is

Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options?

2019-08-04 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, wes wrote: fsck does pretty well without parameters. If you wish to dispense with the need to authorize any repairs it suggests, having it just perform them, you can supply -p and/or -y. Wes/Cathy: At first, fsck did not work when I specified the device as /dev/sdb which

Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options? [UPDATE]

2019-08-06 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: The removal of the driver is only relevant in the sense that it makes such warnings a guarantee. The driver is gone, but EXT3 is still actively being used. So on modern systems you see a benine message pointing to a potential point of failure. Ben, Makes

Re: [PLUG] Any Java experts here?

2019-08-09 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, Bill Ensley wrote: I'm unsure if Javafx is included in the openjdk. It's possible it's modularized and that you need to specify the correct Jar in the classpath. Bill, Well, find didn't find any Javafx. Guess I need to learn what has that module. Thanks, Rich

Re: [PLUG] Any Java experts here?

2019-08-09 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, Rich Shepard wrote: Tracing dependencies I learn that openjdk8 requires openjdk7 (huh!), and my version of openjdk8 might need an upgrade. So, I'll install openjdk7, rebuild all the packages for openjdk8 and then see if JabRef runs. Will report results. Sigh. Still

[PLUG] Any Java experts here?

2019-08-09 Thread Rich Shepard
I have been using JabRef as my scientific bibliographic reference database for years (on my 32-bit desktop running JabRef-3.8.2.jar). Now, on my new 64-bit desktop I want to run 4.3.1 but it fails: @baetis /opt/JabRef]$ java -jar JabRef-4.3.1.jar Error: Could not find or load main class

Re: [PLUG] Any Java experts here?

2019-08-09 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, Rich Shepard wrote: Well, find didn't find any Javafx. Guess I need to learn what has that module. I never knew there was an openjfx package on SBo. Built and installed it (version 8u60) and JabRef is still telling me it cannot find javafx. I must be still missing a step

Re: [PLUG] Any Java experts here?

2019-08-09 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, Rich Shepard wrote: I never knew there was an openjfx package on SBo. Built and installed it (version 8u60) and JabRef is still telling me it cannot find javafx. I must be still missing a step here. Yep. Sure am. Tracing dependencies I learn that openjdk8 requires

Re: [PLUG] exchanging files on LAN

2019-07-20 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019, Louis Kowolowski wrote: If you reboot, you’ll have to re-ssh-add. Thanks, Louis. That't the part I forgot. Regards, Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] exchanging files on LAN

2019-07-20 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019, King Beowulf wrote: I only use ssh and associated tools with keys when remoting in from the outside. On my internal LAN, I find NFS simpler and more versatile. One box exports several directories via NFS, users/no root. The other boxes then just mount those as users and its

Re: [PLUG] exchanging files on LAN

2019-07-20 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019, Louis Kowolowski wrote: If you’re logging in to a *nix box with X, you might check out something like https://github.com/sigmavirus24/x11-ssh-askpass. This would prompt you at login and make the keys available for any terminal/shell session that is spawned from your X

[PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-17 Thread Rich Shepard
Copying directories from one desktop to another using rsync. The rsync man page shows how to specify directories and individual files, but I've not seen how to exclude a subdirectory. On the source host is a directory ~/data/. On the target host /home is on /dev/sda2 while data is a separate

Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: --exclude ~/data/ Thanks, Ben. I missed that option when I read the rsync man page. Regards, Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, Reid wrote: The `--exclude` option might do what you need. Thanks, Reid. However, this will also exclude any file names within the ~ directory structure that contain the string "data". You could use the find command instead to get all the subdirectories of ~ besides

Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, Reid wrote: Edit: # rsync -r $(find ~ -maxdepth 1 ! -name "data") SRC DEST should be: # rsync -r $(find ~ -maxdepth 1 ! -name "data") DEST since the find result would be your SRC in this case. Missed that point. Thanks, Rich

[PLUG] C program build error in Makefile

2019-07-18 Thread Rich Shepard
It's been more than a dozen years since I last coded in C and built a Makefile. Depending on project needs I use the GRASS GIS for terrain and hydrologic modeling, and I need it now. Since the late 1990s I've built the latest development version from code checked out from the subversion

Re: [PLUG] C program build error in Makefile

2019-07-18 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019, Rich Shepard wrote: I cloned the repository and tried building the most current version. It failed (see below), as did prior versions and the SlackBuilds.org version. Same error on each of three hosts: one 32-bit and two 64-bit. I need help in learning why this build error

Re: [PLUG] C program build error in Makefile

2019-07-18 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019, tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com wrote: Did you run .configure with correct --prefix for your system? Does running ./configure gives you a hint? Tomas, Yes. And no. It's the same configure file I've used for years. I have the 2M build output and I'll start going through

[PLUG] Symlink syntax refresher

2019-07-18 Thread Rich Shepard
Found the problem building the grass source. It's look for libgeos-3.7.0.so and my systems have libgeos-3.7.2 installed. On this system the libraries are: $ ll /usr/lib/libgeos* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1689316 May 20 08:55 /usr/lib/libgeos-3.7.2.so* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 931 May 20 08:55

Re: [PLUG] C program build error in Makefile

2019-07-18 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019, tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com wrote: Did you execute: ./configure before running make? Tomas, I read in the configuration file. So, yes. And the issue is the Makefile looking for a specific libgeos version (3.7.0) while 3.7.2 is installed. I'm rebuilding the chain proj

Re: [PLUG] Symlink syntax refresher

2019-07-18 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019, bro...@netgate.net wrote: You want to let ldconfig manage those files. Ah, yes. Forgot all about ldconfig. Thanks, Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] C program build error in Makefile

2019-07-18 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019, tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com wrote: Not the response I expected - maybe just a wording. Just to be sure: My comment was about executing not reading ./configure prior to running make. ./configure command scans your system, reports dependencies and generates config

Re: [PLUG] C program build error in Makefile [RESOLVED]

2019-07-18 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019, tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com wrote: Did you run .configure with correct --prefix for your system? Does running ./configure gives you a hint? The problem was the need to re-compile and re-install the proj -> geos -> gdal stack, the run ldconfig. Grass built to completion

[PLUG] exchanging files on LAN

2019-07-19 Thread Rich Shepard
As I transition from the old server/workstation I frequently copy files and directories using scp. Each time I need to enter my pass phrase and I thought that ssh-agent eliminated that need. Apparently not. Since all transfers are in the LAN and not exposed to the outside world, which tool allows

Re: [PLUG] exchanging files on LAN

2019-07-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019, Paul Heinlein wrote: Your local ssh-agent should do the trick. Going out on a limb, I'm going to suggest that the fix should be easy. Paul, I thoght ssh-agent was the tool. And, I had used it with ssh locally without the pass phrase, but not before with scp. On

[PLUG] Same software but different behavior on two hosts

2019-07-24 Thread Rich Shepard
I've run firefox and google-earth on my 32-bit desktop for years. Moving to the replacement 64-bit desktop requires re-building all packages (not an issue for me). But, both firefox and google-earth behave differently on the two hosts. Google Earth on the 32-bit system uses American values for

Re: [PLUG] Your first PLUG talk!

2019-07-25 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019, J. Hart wrote: It would be fascinating to set up a system for remotely based speakers..via skype mayhaps ? Which could be a good demonstration of video conferencing using linux and F/OSS software. :-) Rich ___ PLUG mailing

Re: [PLUG] Same software but different behavior on two hosts

2019-07-25 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019, Richard Owlett wrote: mozilla-support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org is an active list Thanks, Richard. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] Your first PLUG talk!

2019-07-25 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019, a...@clueserver.org wrote: PLUG meetings always need a Skype-goat. Groan! It's too warm to drop back 10 and pun. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] IP tracking

2019-07-26 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, Dick Steffens wrote: That's worth considering. I run the website, so I should be able to incorporate that into it. I can even do it so it doesn't show up on the public part of the site. Thanks for the recommendations. Certainly! And, there's always the Palm Pilot

Re: [PLUG] IP tracking

2019-07-26 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, Dick Steffens wrote: Thanks, Ed. That's what I was asking about. I know all that stuff is there, and I know a little bit about using it to know more about your site's visitors. It's what is done with that information that I have heard that Google is known for. As Kieth has

Re: [PLUG] IP tracking

2019-07-26 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, Dick Steffens wrote: The problem is what search engine they use, but their desire to use Google Calendar. Dick, Oh. Perhaps: Free Web-based Calendar [Search domain globalcalendar.com] globalcalendar.com globalcalendar.com allows you to store your schedule online. since,

Re: [PLUG] IP tracking

2019-07-26 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, Robert Munro wrote: However, your ISP sees all the websites you visit and advertisers place trackers on individual websites that report traffic to their databases, so your search terms are just the tip of the huge web tracking iceberg. ghostery

Re: [PLUG] Source code to Windows 9x and ME...

2019-09-26 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: My general feel is "not going to happen" there are probably things MS considers trade secrets ... Or major embarrassments? It may be ancient code, but a TS is a TS and if you go release it as open source it is no longer a secret and your now out

[PLUG] Using filezilla

2019-09-27 Thread Rich Shepard
I need to download a 75M data file and the source makes it available on only their filezilla server. I've installed filezilla here and added the server names the source's instructions tell me to, but I cannot find how to connect to their server and download the file. Filezilla's server

Re: [PLUG] Using filezilla

2019-09-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019, wes wrote: You should probably just use the tools you're familiar with, and adapt the instructions provided to you to suit. wes, I tried sftp and it failed to connect. Now they've provided a username and password I'll try again, specifying those on the command line.

Re: [PLUG] Using filezilla

2019-09-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019, wes wrote: What specific steps did you take? $ sftp -oPort=22 dgmi-dl-gue...@filedrop.dogami.oregon.gov Permission denied (password). Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer sftp properly doesn't ask for a password sent in plain text from the command line. When I

Re: [PLUG] Using filezilla

2019-09-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019, Rich Shepard wrote: What specific steps did you take? Here is the result of another try: $ ncftpget -u DGMI-DL-Guest1 -p ftp://filedrop.dogami.oregon.gov Could not connect to filedrop.dogami.oregon.gov -- try again later: Connection timed out. Rich

Re: [PLUG] Using filezilla

2019-09-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019, Dick Steffens wrote: Looks like the client is available at SlackBuilds: https://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/filezilla/ Dick, That's what I installed. I looked at all menus and couldn't find anything that let me open a connection. The application offered to

Re: [PLUG] Using filezilla

2019-09-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: If this really is a normal FTP server, try the gFTP client that ships with Slackware. $ gftp Ben, Okay. Tomorrow. I know a lot of people will recommend Filezilla but you shouldn't need to use it. I'd try the default and see if you can get that

Re: [PLUG] Using filezilla

2019-09-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019, wes wrote: Can you share the instructions they provided to you? We need to see what protocol they're asking you to use. wes, It's a 1+ page PDF now available here for 2 days: The

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