Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-03 Thread Tomas Kuchta
mp3 patents expired earlier this year, if I am not mistaken and it wasn't in 2016 already. So at this point, it does not matter other than on technical merit such as encoder efficiency, perceived quality, etc. Tomas On Dec 3, 2017 11:21 AM, "Galen Seitz" wrote: > On 12/03/17 10:54, Rich Shepar

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, King Beowulf wrote: Remember: when moving from a lossless format (WAV) to a lossy format (ogg , mp3), you throw away a lot of data. transcoding to another lossy format will further degrade the audio. Ed, Thus my question. Recommendation: transcode to another, better lo

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, King Beowulf wrote: mp3 patent expired in May 2017. Lame and ffmpeg are now part of Slackware-current (15.0 "real soon now"). Ed, Good to know. ogg vorbis is OK, but for audio fidelity I prefer FLAC, lossless compression, unless I need to save space. I was thinking

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-03 Thread King Beowulf
On 12/03/2017 12:34 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: ... > >   Since many have much greater experience than do I with manipulating audio > files would it make sense to first uncompress the .mp3 file then recompress > it to the ,ogg vorbis format? Or can the loss not be recovered so perhaps > specifying a h

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-03 Thread King Beowulf
On 12/03/2017 11:55 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, Rich Shepard wrote: > >> Audacity translated the file from .wav to .mp3. I'll look to see if it >> supports the ogg flavors (I suspect so). If not, ffmpeg will do the job. > >   Yes, audacity-2.1.3 exports to ogg vorbis. > > Rich

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, Galen Seitz wrote: If the files are for your own use, I suggest converting them to ogg vorbis or to ogg opus. opus is the latest and greatest open codec, so your sox might not support it. It certainly should support the vorbis codec. Rummaging around the web I read that s

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, Rich Shepard wrote: Audacity translated the file from .wav to .mp3. I'll look to see if it supports the ogg flavors (I suspect so). If not, ffmpeg will do the job. Yes, audacity-2.1.3 exports to ogg vorbis. Rich ___ PLUG mailin

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, Galen Seitz wrote: mp3 is patent encumbered. Galen, Oh. That makes a difference. If the files are for your own use, I suggest converting them to ogg vorbis or to ogg opus. opus is the latest and greatest open codec, so your sox might not support it. It certainly should

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-03 Thread Galen Seitz
On 12/03/17 10:54, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, Galen Seitz wrote: > >> Why do you want to convert these files to mp3? > > Galen, > >   Because the .wav file (1032704 bytes) is much larger than the .mp3 file > (391488 bytes). > >> What is your goal? Do you really need mp3? If not,

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, Galen Seitz wrote: Why do you want to convert these files to mp3? Galen, Because the .wav file (1032704 bytes) is much larger than the .mp3 file (391488 bytes). What is your goal? Do you really need mp3? If not, you should be able to convert the files to any one of a n

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-03 Thread Galen Seitz
On 12/03/17 05:58, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Sat, 2 Dec 2017, King Beowulf wrote: > >> The "wav" files can be in a number of formats, not just straight >> uncompressed MS Windows audio PCM. You may want to search what format the >> device uses for storage and/or compression, perhaps amr, awb, 3gp,

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-03 Thread Michael Barnes
Don't know if it is relevant, and don't have time to look it up right now, but my feeble memory just recalled using mpeg321 or mpeg123 or something like that in processing mp3 files. Might help, might not. Just throwing it out. Michael On Dec 3, 2017 06:03, "Rich Shepard" wrote: > On Sat, 2 D

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 2 Dec 2017, Tomas Kuchta wrote: The only way to workaround with your fstab way would be to do all below: a) mount your USB disk to other place than media, so it is not of the way for normal hotplug schemes Nothing's mounted on /media other than links to /mnt/. Thanks, Rich

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 2 Dec 2017, King Beowulf wrote: The "wav" files can be in a number of formats, not just straight uncompressed MS Windows audio PCM. You may want to search what format the device uses for storage and/or compression, perhaps amr, awb, 3gp, wavpack, or some other format. codecs exist for th

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 2 Dec 2017, Tomas Kuchta wrote: lame ffmpeg Tomas, lame requires another library (faad2) and both are installed. There apparently is an expected format that is not what the recorder provides. The script I tried is: #!/bin/sh # name of this script: wav2mp3.sh # wav to mp3 for i in

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-02 Thread Michael Barnes
While I haven't used it recently, in the past I used lame extensively to convert to mp3 files. I had dozens of cron jobs running, converting many hours of wav recordings to mp3 and posting them on web pages on a daily basis. Michael On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote: > I wante

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-02 Thread Tomas Kuchta
I wanted to post separately on your continued external disk troubles. Unless you leave external USB resource management to standard hotplug you will continue to have these kind of issues and conflicts. The only way to workaround with your fstab way would be to do all below: a) mount your USB disk

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-02 Thread King Beowulf
On 12/02/2017 03:11 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: >   I bought a small digital voice recorder which saves files in .wav format. > I found a script to convert from .wav to .mp3, but this device apparently > has a non-standard format (0x0011). The "wav" files can be in a number of formats, not just straig

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-02 Thread Tomas Kuchta
lame ffmpeg Should both work from command line given input.wav output.mp3 with optional compression options. ffmpeg in particular is the real "Swiss army knife" type of a tool. -Tomas On Dec 2, 2017 3:48 PM, "Dale Snell" wrote: On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 15:11:45 -0800 (PST), in message alpine.lnx.2

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files [RESOLVED]

2017-12-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 2 Dec 2017, Dale Snell wrote: Audacity has always worked well for me when it comes to converting sound files. FFMPEG is pretty good at conversions, too. Dale, Thanks. Dick Steffens suggested that and after upgrading audacity to the latest version I found that it does do a good job

Re: [PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-02 Thread Dale Snell
On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 15:11:45 -0800 (PST), in message alpine.lnx.2.20.1712021502330.21...@salmo.appl-ecosys.com, Rich Shepard wrote: >I bought a small digital voice recorder which saves files in .wav > format. I found a script to convert from .wav to .mp3, but this > device apparently has a non-

[PLUG] Converting audio files

2017-12-02 Thread Rich Shepard
I bought a small digital voice recorder which saves files in .wav format. I found a script to convert from .wav to .mp3, but this device apparently has a non-standard format (0x0011). Another web search found Sound eXchanger (SoX) which will not only change wav formats but convert among many