Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-17 Thread Grant Shipley
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Grant Shipley wrote: > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Henry Hertz Hobbit < > hhhob...@securemecca.com> wrote: > >> I am considering unsubscribing. I also didn't attend your >> meeting and probably won't. I think your PLUG is like a lot of >> other LUGs and is

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-17 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 07/17/2010 03:09 PM, Stuart Jansen wrote: > Wow, it's been years since we've had one of these. ... and the reason I subscribed. I had heard about all the drama on PLUG (how to spell perl (is it "PERL", "Perl", etc), vim vs emacs, and Stuart's witty commentary). After subscribing, I was let down

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-17 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 15:23 -0600, Daniel C. wrote: > (I also look forward to Stuart's response to the original email.) No way I can top that. -- Stuart Jansen /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-17 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 20:34 +, Henry Hertz Hobbit wrote: > I am considering unsubscribing. I also didn't attend your > meeting and probably won't. I think your PLUG is like a lot of > other LUGs and is going to disappear. Wow, it's been years since we've had one of these. It's so endearing

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Grant Shipley
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Henry Hertz Hobbit < hhhob...@securemecca.com> wrote: > I am considering unsubscribing. I also didn't attend your > meeting and probably won't. I think your PLUG is like a lot of > other LUGs and is going to disappear. > It's very easy to do, just visit: http:/

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 7/16/2010 4:59 PM, Levi Pearson wrote: > What makes you think anyone here loves Darl McBride? At most, I > imagine some people here respect him as a person who has made some > poor decisions regarding lawsuits. I imagine a lot of people dislike > him almost as much as you seem to. I don't hav

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Shane Hathaway
On 07/16/2010 02:34 PM, Henry Hertz Hobbit wrote: > I needed people with Linux expertise to help leverage people off > of Windows onto Linux for security reasons. Specifically, I see > the following two areas as ripe for the picking: > > 1. People at home. Many have very little technical knowledg

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Levi Pearson
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Henry Hertz Hobbit wrote: > If you people > love Darl McBride who single-handedly did more to try to trash > the ability of anybody to use Linux and dislike Richard Stallman > whose work makes it possible for you to have Linux I am more than >

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Daniel C.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Joshua Fenio wrote: > Joining the Army has, incredibly, improved your prose, Dan. It has given me a ridiculous amount of spare time, which I've devoted mostly to reading. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/opt

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Joshua Fenio
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Daniel C. wrote: > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Henry Hertz Hobbit > wrote: > > I am considering unsubscribing. > > > It's for our own good, really. How can we grow beyond our current, > juvenile state without the heartbreak of your departure to spur us > in

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Daniel C.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Henry Hertz Hobbit wrote: > I am considering unsubscribing. Talk is for the weak - strong men take action. Don't let this become another in your long line of unsubstantiated threats, Mr. Hertz. Show us you mean business! Leave this list. We will miss you - we'

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Thad Van Ry
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Henry Hertz Hobbit < hhhob...@securemecca.com> wrote: > > Wow! I didn't read anything in previous threads that led me to believe that PLUG as an organization espouses the things that you claim. All I read were various people expressing their opinions. Much the s

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Alan Young
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 15:15, Jonathan Duncan wrote: > Keep in mind also, that if you do not like a certain conversation thread, you > do not need to follow it.  :)  Better threads will > come.  They always do. VIm is better than emacs! -- Alan /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:46, Brad Midgley wrote: > Henry > > Your complaints about the mailing list are a reasonable basis to > leave, filter, or mute the list, but not necessarily to stop going to > meetings. The meetings are generally solid and are a good format for > learning something useful. >

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Brad Midgley
Henry Your complaints about the mailing list are a reasonable basis to leave, filter, or mute the list, but not necessarily to stop going to meetings. The meetings are generally solid and are a good format for learning something useful. Brad /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Un

I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Henry Hertz Hobbit
you people love Darl McBride who single-handedly did more to try to trash the ability of anybody to use Linux and dislike Richard Stallman whose work makes it possible for you to have Linux I am more than baffled. I am DUMBFOUNDED! I needed people with Linux expertise to help leverage people off