Just perusing amazon, looks like your options for non-APC brands are Tripp
Lite or CyberPower. Both have units that are big enough for your server
priced under $100. I can't say as to their safety, quality, or software
availability.
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--- On Tue, 5/28/13, Nicholas Leippe n...@leippe.com wrote:
From: Nicholas Leippe n...@leippe.com
Subject: Re: UPS recommendations
To: Provo Linux Users Group plug@plug.org
Date: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 6:35 AM
Just perusing amazon, looks like your options for non-APC brands are Tripp
Lite
:
From: Nicholas Leippe n...@leippe.com
Subject: Re: UPS recommendations
To: Provo Linux Users Group plug@plug.org
Date: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 6:35 AM
Just perusing amazon, looks like your options for non-APC brands are Tripp
Lite or CyberPower. Both have units that are big enough for your server
.
Keith Smith
--- On Mon, 5/13/13, Chris plug@2nerds.com wrote:
From: Chris plug@2nerds.com
Subject: Re: UPS recommendations
To: Provo Linux Users Group plug@plug.org
Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 7:51 PM
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Nicholas Leippe n...@leippe.com wrote:
Where
On 05/12/2013 01:11 PM, Nicholas Leippe wrote:
I would still use an APC in a data center environment--mounted in metal
racks above fire-proof floors I wouldn't worry about them venting gas or
getting hot when they fail. But not in my home on my wood floor or in my
carpeted office.
I don't
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Nicholas Leippe n...@leippe.com wrote:
Where they are always online:
1) do they produce a lot of heat?
2) noise?
As I can't vouch for the performance of contemporary online UPS models, the
following observations are necessarily limited to my experience with
I've owned several different UPS brands over the years and APC was the
worst by far. My two APC units both failed within two years of purchase.
The best UPS units that I've owned have been a pair of Exide Powerware Prestige
EXT
Where they are always online:
1) do they produce a lot of heat?
2) noise?
My primary goal is for my desktop in my office. I really don't want to up
the heat or db levels much if it can be avoided. For my entertainment
center, heat is okay, but noise would be a problem.
I will check into these,
On Sun, 12 May 2013 11:37:56 -0600
Chris plug@2nerds.com wrote:
I've owned several different UPS brands over the years and APC was the
worst by far. My two APC units both failed within two years of
purchase.
I've owned two APC UPSs over the last 20 years. My current one is a
Back-UPS LS
I guess I wasn't clear. I'm done with APC. After two units charging
circuits failed catastrophically (one destroyed $200 of brand new
batteries), and both could have lit my house on fire I no longer trust APC.
Period. They continued to attempt charging full batteries--which got
bloated, started
I've got a Cyberpower 1500 that been dependable for a couple of years ( worked
through two sets of batteries and still going ). I've also used lots of APC
units that I don't like and don't recommend either
- jf
On May 12, 2013, at 12:54, Charles Curley charlescur...@charlescurley.com
wrote:
I've used APC for years--since I obtained several off lease years ago for
almost nothing. However, they've all slowly bit the dust--their charging
circuits giving out. Some research reveals that APC has always had a poor
design--the electronics are not insulated from the heat making component
On 08/26/2010 09:40 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
Generators bring some interesting things to the mix. As you say you
can't have a generator without a UPS. But the UPS has to be pretty
smart when switching back and forth between line, battery, and
generator. Not only does the UPS have to carry
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:56:57 -0600
Shane Hathaway sh...@hathawaymix.org wrote:
On 08/26/2010 09:40 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
Generators bring some interesting things to the mix. As you say you
can't have a generator without a UPS. But the UPS has to be pretty
smart when switching back
On 08/27/2010 01:56 AM, Shane Hathaway wrote:
So, for a time, the UPS generates power at a slightly incorrect
frequency in order to adjust the phase? That's a cool hack.
That's my understanding. The generator is generating a standard 60 Hz
sine wave on each of the three phases. The problem
On 08/27/2010 06:00 AM, Charles Curley wrote:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10209580-92.html
Did you notice the publication date on that?
Yes, but it still seems like a good idea. Switching power supplies
already have most of the circuitry you would need to manage a battery.
Shane
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:21:13AM -0600, Bryan Thomas wrote:
out of curiosity, why do you say that they all suck? what would make
them better?
As others have said, dealing with batteries is a pain, and they fail
frequently. I've also been frustrated to find that when a battery
fails,
Having had several UPS' fail on me over the years, I can agree with that
statement at it's core. The problem with it however, is if not UPS (battery
tech), then what? Unfortunately, there aren't many viable options available
out there today (short of having a diesel generating on standby next to
On 08/26/2010 01:11 PM, Tyler Harmor wrote:
Having had several UPS' fail on me over the years, I can agree with that
statement at it's core. The problem with it however, is if not UPS (battery
tech), then what? Unfortunately, there aren't many viable options available
out there today (short
Yes, sorry. I was being more sarcastic then anything with that last
comment.
ty|er.
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Corey Edwards ten...@zmonkey.org wrote:
On 08/26/2010 01:11 PM, Tyler Harmor wrote:
Having had several UPS' fail on me over the years, I can agree with that
statement at
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 01:11:22PM -0600, Tyler Harmor wrote:
Having had several UPS' fail on me over the years, I can agree with that
statement at it's core. The problem with it however, is if not UPS (battery
tech), then what? Unfortunately, there aren't many viable options available
out
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:48:18 -0600
Andrew McNabb amcn...@mcnabbs.org wrote:
As others have said, dealing with batteries is a pain, and they fail
frequently. I've also been frustrated to find that when a battery
fails, sometimes this causes the UPS to shut down power to the
connected
On 08/26/2010 01:24 PM, Corey Edwards wrote:
A generator won't solve your problem without a UPS. It takes up to a
couple minutes for the generator to kick on and switch over. During that
time you need a UPS to carry the load. There's really just no way around
it. Preventative maintenance is
out of curiosity, why do you say that they all suck? what would make
them better?
On 8/11/2010 9:57 PM, Aaron Toponce wrote:
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 08:33:12PM -0600, Stuart Jansen wrote:
What's the best UPS for power hungry home server? Why?
APC. Because all battery backup
On 08/12/2010 12:21 AM, Bryan Thomas wrote:
out of curiosity, why do you say that they all suck? what would make
them better?
If you never had to worry about batteries, charging circuits, inverter
circuits, relays, etc.
In the few APC units I manage, we end up replacing failed batteries
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:21:13AM -0600, Bryan Thomas wrote:
out of curiosity, why do you say that they all suck? what would make
them better?
Every UPS I've personally owned, the batteries were crap, or the units
themselves. Either the batteries only last a year or two, or they can't
On 08/12/2010 06:03 AM, Aaron Toponce wrote:
I think I'm through with battery backups though. I'm looking at getting
some solar panels for my roof, and using an old shed for the power
storage, including a gas generator for emergencies.
Won't you need a bank of batteries anyway to hold the
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 07:26:54AM -0600, Michael Torrie wrote:
Won't you need a bank of batteries anyway to hold the electricity
generated by the solar panels? IE you're going to be dealing with even
more batteries now.
Yes. I'm looking at SLA (sealed lead acid) batteries for that. Due to
On 08/12/2010 12:50 AM, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 08/12/2010 12:21 AM, Bryan Thomas wrote:
out of curiosity, why do you say that they all suck? what would make
them better?
If you never had to worry about batteries, charging circuits, inverter
circuits, relays, etc.
In the few APC
On 08/12/2010 07:46 AM, Aaron Toponce wrote:
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 07:26:54AM -0600, Michael Torrie wrote:
Won't you need a bank of batteries anyway to hold the electricity
generated by the solar panels? IE you're going to be dealing with even
more batteries now.
Yes. I'm looking at SLA
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:38:18 -0600
Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote:
In some cases solar power (or even wind) is really complicated. You
can arrange to sell electricity back to the grid, and then draw from
the grid during no sunshine periods, making the grid act as a sort of
battery
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:38:18AM -0600, Michael Torrie wrote:
Regular UPS units use normal, sealed leadacid batteries. Anyway, going
solar is a neat idea. Let us know how it works out and how the
economics fly. Are you planning, then, an off-grid system?
I thought they were gel cells,
On 08/12/2010 11:25 AM, Aaron Toponce wrote:
And the tax credit
makes it worth the initial cost.
Initial, sure, but what about in two to three years when all the
batteries start needing replacement?
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:38:18AM -0600, Michael Torrie wrote:
Regular UPS units use normal, sealed leadacid batteries. Anyway, going
solar is a neat idea. Let us know how it works out and how the
economics fly.
On 12 Aug 2010, at 16:00, Levi Pearson wrote:
There's more to the system than just the panels, of course. You'll
need to factor in the correct batteries for your needs (different
kinds of batteries have different points at which further discharge
starts to cause damage, so you have to
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 04:00:57PM -0600, Levi Pearson wrote:
As far as solar goes, you might also want to consider solar water
heating, which could also reduce your gas bill. It doesn't involve
expensive photovoltaic cells, so it could be cheaper to implement.
Meh. I'm coverted to tankless
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Jonathan Duncan
jonat...@bluesunhosting.com wrote:
snip
I have also wanted to gain some independence from the grid for many years
now. The cost and complexity of the project has always hindered me. If
someone has not already done so, it could become a good
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 04:00:57PM -0600, Levi Pearson wrote:
As far as solar goes, you might also want to consider solar water
heating, which could also reduce your gas bill. It doesn't involve
expensive
On 12 Aug 2010, at 17:11, Levi Pearson wrote:
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 04:00:57PM -0600, Levi Pearson wrote:
As far as solar goes, you might also want to consider solar water
heating, which could also reduce your
What's the best UPS for power hungry home server? Why?
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:33:12 -0600
Stuart Jansen sjan...@buscaluz.org wrote:
What's the best UPS for power hungry home server? Why?
I recommend an APC UPS. I'm very pleased with apcupsd,
http://www.apcupsd.com/ It lets you hang multiple machines off one UPS,
and will communicate between them,
On 8/11/2010 9:34 PM, Charles Curley wrote:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:33:12 -0600
Stuart Jansensjan...@buscaluz.org wrote:
What's the best UPS for power hungry home server? Why?
I recommend an APC UPS. I'm very pleased with apcupsd,
http://www.apcupsd.com/ It lets you hang
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 08:33:12PM -0600, Stuart Jansen wrote:
What's the best UPS for power hungry home server? Why?
APC. Because all battery backup solutions suck. APC just sucks less.
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:57:47 -0600
Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote:
Because all battery backup solutions suck. APC just sucks less.
Now, that's a dog of a recommendation.
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