Re: ot: problems

2014-09-20 Thread Jon Kettenhofen
I explained that earlier. ethernet ports are vulnerable. Wires pick up from the air radio pulses generated by lightning and power surges. This turns into voltage in the ethernet cable. Not frequent but it can happen. Also, only a proper ups, not a surge protector, can protect you from a

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-20 Thread Michael Havens
ohh so the ethernet PORTS are vulnerable, regardless of if s cable is attached to it. I think you mean it this way because there is no cable attached to the ethernet portOtherwise the instructions don't make sense. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 3:36 AM, Jon Kettenhofen

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-20 Thread Jon Kettenhofen
No Michael, that is not exactly correct. All parts of a computer are vulnerable to an EMP if it is very strong. Having a cable plugged into it (which acts as an antenna) makes it much more vulnerable. Having a phone line plugged in can be even more vulnerable if the the cable does not have

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-19 Thread Jon Kettenhofen
Sure, a bad power supply will not only affect the fans but it can affect everything in the computer! What do you think? The power supply failed because it got too hot because the cooling fan did not do it's job? Maybe. But you won't be able to diagnose the fan or other failures until you

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Havens
thanks, Jon. I think I'll take it in. I get the fan warning and the internet switch still will not turn on when I'm running it off of the battery. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Jon Kettenhofen s...@kexsof.com wrote: Sure, a bad power supply will not only affect the fans but it

RE: ot: problems

2014-09-19 Thread Carruth, Rusty
On the multimeter thing - if you happen to get a coupon for a free multimeter from Harbor Freight that's your cheapest possible meter, and according to a friend its not a bad meter. If you want to buy it I think its under $10, but I'm not sure. In addition, Lowes, Home Depot, Radio Shack, Fry's,

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Havens
thanks for the suggestion. I got one:) :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Carruth, Rusty ru...@smartm.com wrote: On the multimeter thing - if you happen to get a coupon for a free multimeter from Harbor Freight that's your cheapest possible meter, and according to a friend its not

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Havens
here is a question... if I had a power surge why was only 1 computer`affected of the 4 in my house. one other rhing it is the only one connected to the internet wirelessly. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for the suggestion. I got

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-18 Thread Lisa Kachold
Hi Mike, In order to work with the technician effectively, you are going to want to be closely involved with the work process. In this respect, you will ask him what he thinks the problem is, or what his first actions are, for instance if he recommends a full diagnostic. But first, I would do

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-18 Thread Michael Havens
when the keybosrd problem stsrted about 6 months ago getting another keyboard was the first thing I did and there was no problem with it when I attached an external keyboard. You mentioned smoking being a problem? I've never done that. You wondered about the distro? I run Linux Mint.

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-18 Thread Lisa Kachold
Michael, It might just be time to UPGRADE! References: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141t=67240 Keyboard http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1287 Wireless Switch http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49t=174540 Fan Control You can fix or address each, or

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-18 Thread Stephen Partington
Have you tried a live CD of any flavor to see if it persists? On Sep 18, 2014 8:35 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: when the keybosrd problem stsrted about 6 months ago getting another keyboard was the first thing I did and there was no problem with it when I attached an external

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-18 Thread Michael Havens
Thefirst thing I di was to stick the live cd in. That didn't fix a thing plus that doesn't take care of the cooling fan issue. did I tell you I get that notice right before bios takes over? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-18 Thread Jon Kettenhofen
Yo, Michael! Don't remember hearing about the cooling fan issue. It's really starting to sound like a power supply gone bad, but check the fans. See if they are turning and they should not be making any noise EXCEPT when the system first starts up. And that should be fan/wind noise only!

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-18 Thread Jon Kettenhofen
Michael, BTW, Apple publishes a hardware diagnostic CD or DVD, in fact it may be on the original install DVDs that came with the machine. If you can boot the machine, see if you can run the diagnostics. Jon On 09/18/2014 02:08 PM, Michael Havens wrote: Thefirst thing I di was to stick the

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-18 Thread Michael Havens
so the power supply will affect the cooling fan? If so this might be an easy fix. What about the internet switch? That was the first thing that failed. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Jon Kettenhofen s...@kexsof.com wrote: Michael, BTW, Apple publishes a hardware diagnostic CD

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-17 Thread Jon Kettenhofen
Hello Michael, I'm curious, did you buy this quad new or did you buy it used or is it a work computer owned by a company? I get the feeling that you bought it used. There's almost always a reason for failures and it's usually a problem that can be isolated. If it's a part, it can be

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-17 Thread Michael Havens
Thank you so much for the detailed explanation, Jon. You know I have a laptop and I don't have a MAC but I read your troubleshooting non-the-less. I got to the last paragraph and realized something that I was told happened a couple of days ago that might be relevant. My room mate was home when

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-17 Thread Michael Havens
oh I forgot to say that none of the other computers in my house seem to have been affected though it may be that it needs to be power-cycled and/or it may be something that only affects wireless and something got on the phone lines (my home is on DSL). :-)~MIKE~(-: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at

Re: ot: problems

2014-09-17 Thread Michael Havens
What can I tell the service tech so I don't sound too stupid? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: oh I forgot to say that none of the other computers in my house seem to have been affected though it may be that it needs to be power-cycled