Re: Free Software FPS

2009-02-01 Thread der.hans
Am 28. Jan, 2009 schwätzte der.hans so: moin moin, in the first email I was remiss for not mentioning Platnium Arts Sandbox. http://kids.platinumarts.net/ Then, I didn't follow up on the thread and mention it. Bad Hans, especially since the main developer helped a lot with promo for ABLEconf

Another reason someone might hate Microsoft.

2009-02-01 Thread Bob Elzer
This hasn't happened to me, but I would be sore if it did. Microsoft force-installs Firefox extension. http://www.robertnyman.com/2009/01/26/microsoft-force-installs-firefox-exten sion/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.pho

RE: HackFest Security: Patch Procrastinators Anonymous February 1...@uat

2009-02-01 Thread Lisa Kachold
More Patches released on Friday for you procrastinators: Ubuntu has updated http://lwn.net/Articles/317325/";>kernel (multiple vulnerabilities) and http://lwn.net/Articles/317326/";>moin (multiple vulnerabilities). Debian has updated http://lwn.net/Articles/317318/";>netatalk (denial of service

RE: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Lisa Kachold
I like making it all work together in interesting ways. I really love being able to dissassemble my firmware, add code, and see my memory registers. But I am not too good to not want to play with a MS ICA solution for wireless Cisco. But for business models, I seriously question the whole Mi

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Tameek Henderson
Jason, I'm sure as Microsoft begins to loose significant market share they will "retain control and drive the company to a better future" and/or adjust their business model accordingly, until then... Tameek Henderson 646.427.3205 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/116/522 Sent via BlackBerry fr

RE: Hackfest Security: Dubai Hackinthebox Convention Anyone?

2009-02-01 Thread Lisa Kachold
It's obscurity (and perhaps security) by location? Microsoft doesn't generally promote security cons? They create them: http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/160861.asp And try to skew the results by funding studies: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/217538_msftstudy25.h

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread stewart m wieneke
On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 20:26 +, Tameek Henderson wrote: > I'm starting to believe hating Microsoft and/or Apple are prequisite > for this Linux Groups. Anyway, my name is Ty, I'm a noob, > also just moved to Arizona. Good day to you all. > > > Tameek Henderson > 646.427.3205 > http://www.l

Some one needs to unsub from list

2009-02-01 Thread eculbert
Apparently, there is someone who is 'declaring all plug to be spam' on yahoo mail instead of unsubing from list. 73 Ed/ke7feg Now that November is here, April can wait! On 2/23/2007 the morse code requirement was dropped for getting a ham license. Now just pass the written exams which ar

M$ and history

2009-02-01 Thread eculbert
I'd be willing to bet that at least 3 out of 4 that wonder why older (over 40 years old) dislike MicroShaft and its policies are under and many times well under 30 age wise. They just haven't been around long enough to see what Bill Gates has done to throttle and kill better ideas and companie

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Jason
If you're a "slave" to your shareholders, and you truly believe you are heading down the wrong path, then it is your duty (CEO) to buy back the shares and start reducing the shareholder's claim on the company, including keeping your own shares to ensure your power is maintained. I don't see any co

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread stewart m wieneke
I agree with you on that, T. I've generally tell unsatisfied Windows users that Microsoft isn't in business to make good software, they're in business to make MONEY! Linux, OTOH, is a completely different business model. On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 22:09 +, Tameek Henderson wrote: > Craig, > > I th

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Tameek Henderson
Craig, I think the "problem" with companies like Apple and Microsoft are they're slaves to their shareholders. These companies have made their money off a business model Windows/Office for Microsoft and Ipod/Mac for Apple. Subsequently, investors have brought into these business models, and M

Re: Hackfest Security: Dubai Hackinthebox Convention Anyone?

2009-02-01 Thread Joshua Zeidner
no doubt. I dont think Ill be going either. Last time I checked, I wasn't allowed to step foot in that country. -jmz On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Sharkscott wrote: > I'm saying that they way they treat women. I will not be going. My Mother > was treated bad enough for being single in th

Re: Zenwalk Curiousities

2009-02-01 Thread stewart m wieneke
For a lightweight Slackware based version, I've been using Vector linux on one of my computers for about 6 months now. This is on the "house computer" that everyone uses when they need to jump online to check their e-mail, my space, download something, or whatever. Despite that, and leaving it on 2

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 14:13 -0700, Jason wrote: > On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 20:26 +, Tameek Henderson wrote: > > I'm starting to believe hating Microsoft and/or Apple are prequisite > > for this Linux Groups. Anyway, my name is Ty, I'm a noob, also just > > moved to Arizona. Good day to you all.

Re: Hackfest Security: Dubai Hackinthebox Convention Anyone?

2009-02-01 Thread Sharkscott
I'm saying that they way they treat women. I will not be going. My Mother was treated bad enough for being single in the mid 1970's midwest. God help me being the son of a single woman there.. On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > you don't like Muslims? > > -jmz > > On Sun,

Re: Hackfest Security: Dubai Hackinthebox Convention Anyone?

2009-02-01 Thread Joshua Zeidner
you don't like Muslims? -jmz On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Sharkscott wrote: > Nice, Heck of a night life they must have, oh wait, their MUSLIM! Guess > I won't be going then...lol > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> >> this article says: "Females should make

Re: Hackfest Security: Dubai Hackinthebox Convention Anyone?

2009-02-01 Thread Sharkscott
Nice, Heck of a night life they must have, oh wait, their MUSLIM! Guess I won't be going then...lol On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > this article says: "Females should make an effort not to wear too > figure hugging clothes and to cover up their flesh". > > http://w

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Stephen P Rufle
Try to make it to a Free Software Stammtisch (Tempe/Avondale) http://plug.phoenix.az.us/meetings/info Not everyone is a hater :) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Jason
On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 13:38 -0700, Charles Jones wrote: > but apparently they cannot get the vision out of > their heads of some sweaty Google IT guy eating cheetos in a recliner > while he personally reads their private emails. You forgot "naked eating cheetos". Like Ron White. ;) ---

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Jason
On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 20:26 +, Tameek Henderson wrote: > I'm starting to believe hating Microsoft and/or Apple are prequisite > for this Linux Groups. Anyway, my name is Ty, I'm a noob, also just > moved to Arizona. Good day to you all. A lot of people say that. But the reality is that you g

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread mz
On Sunday 01 February 2009 01:26:25 pm Tameek Henderson wrote: > I'm starting to believe hating Microsoft and/or Apple are prequisite > for this Linux Groups. Anyway, my name is Ty, I'm a noob, also just > moved to Arizona. Good day to you all. > > > Tameek Henderson Howdy Tameek, I only switch

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Charles Jones
It's interesting how many haters are jumping into the fray to bash google for what was a simple mistake. Hell my ISP has made way worse blunders including "accidentally" shutting down their entire network for hours, and it wasn't the top headline on CNN. Google makes one little mistake, admits,

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Tameek Henderson
I'm starting to believe hating Microsoft and/or Apple are prequisite for this Linux Groups. Anyway, my name is Ty, I'm a noob, also just moved to Arizona. Good day to you all. Tameek Henderson 646.427.3205 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/116/522 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original

Re: Hackfest Security: Dubai Hackinthebox Convention Anyone?

2009-02-01 Thread Joshua Zeidner
this article says: "Females should make an effort not to wear too figure hugging clothes and to cover up their flesh". http://www.grapeshisha.com/UAE-National-clothing.html -jmz On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Sharkscott wrote: > No, I think as long as your in pants and a shirt your good, I

Re: Hackfest Security: Dubai Hackinthebox Convention Anyone?

2009-02-01 Thread Sharkscott
No, I think as long as your in pants and a shirt your good, I am just wondering how much plane tickets to Dubai would set me back... On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > I wonder if women have special clothing requirements for this > conference, like in many Arab countries. >

Re: Hackfest Security: Dubai Hackinthebox Convention Anyone?

2009-02-01 Thread Joshua Zeidner
I wonder if women have special clothing requirements for this conference, like in many Arab countries. -jmz On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > http://conference.hitb.org/hitbsecconf2009dubai/ > > Note that Microsoft is a Convention sponsor? > > Also note that HackintheBox

Hackfest Security: Dubai Hackinthebox Convention Anyone?

2009-02-01 Thread Lisa Kachold
http://conference.hitb.org/hitbsecconf2009dubai/ Note that Microsoft is a Convention sponsor? Also note that HackintheBox is a first reporter for Microsoft security issues: http://www.hackinthebox.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=29609&mode=thread www.Obnosis.com | http:

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread eculbert
Yeah, OOPS! Refreshing! Agree on M$$$ type of reply! --- On Sun, 2/1/09, Jason wrote: > From: Jason > Subject: Re: Google Problem 1/31 > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 11:36 AM > What cracks me up is that people are screaming about Google. > They stated > th

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Sharkscott
EXACTLY Jason, They stood up and said, "Hey, we messed up. And we fixed it in 40 minutes" Way better than MS has ever done ever. On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Jason wrote: > What cracks me up is that people are screaming about Google. They stated > they made a mistake, provided the details o

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Jason
What cracks me up is that people are screaming about Google. They stated they made a mistake, provided the details of the mistake, and apologized for the 40 minutes of problems. It's quite refreshing that Google just came out and said they screwed up. If it was Microsoft, it would have been denie

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Sharkscott
Idiots, I thought it was funny..my site was bad for people, I loved it! On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Jerry Davis wrote: > On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:17:30 -0700 > James Mcphee wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: > > > > > Someone at the instalfest said he was getting go

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Jerry Davis
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:17:30 -0700 James Mcphee wrote: > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: > > > Someone at the instalfest said he was getting google results that every > > page referenced was bad. Here is the explanation from Google: > > > > http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/01

Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread James Mcphee
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: > Someone at the instalfest said he was getting google results that every > page referenced was bad. Here is the explanation from Google: > > http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/this-site-may-harm-your-computer-on.html > > -- > Man is the only a

Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Dazed_75
Someone at the instalfest said he was getting google results that every page referenced was bad. Here is the explanation from Google: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/this-site-may-harm-your-computer-on.html -- Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal that i

Lost and Found from the Installfest

2009-02-01 Thread Dazed_75
There were some items left behind at yesterday's Installfest. I have them and if the owner(s) will identify what they left, we can arrange to get yu and your possessions re-united. -- Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal that is struck with the difference betwee