On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:50 AM, der.hans wrote:
> Am 20. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Mike Schwartz so:
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Mike Schwartz wrote:
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>> [...]
>>> have "tentatively" reserved a room for July 22, 2009 ([resv.] hours =
>>> 6:00 pm to 9:00 pm.)
>>> at the same library that
Am 20. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Lisa Kachold so:
On 7/20/09, der.hans wrote:
Am 20. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Bryan O'Neal so:
Yes, but you would have to modify their project. I am going out on a limn
here but I am guessing I am the only hard core windows admin on the list.
Possibly. In the end I thi
And here is the Google summer of code project XFat:
http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/hackers/2008-03/msg00270.html
On 7/20/09, Lisa Kachold wrote:
> On 7/20/09, der.hans wrote:
>> Am 20. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Bryan O'Neal so:
>>
>>> Yes, but you would have to modify their project. I
On 7/20/09, der.hans wrote:
> Am 20. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Bryan O'Neal so:
>
>> Yes, but you would have to modify their project. I am going out on a limn
>> here but I am guessing I am the only hard core windows admin on the list.
>
> Possibly. In the end I think we need to find some other people t
i did find something, they make another tool i use a grea deal for
making floppy images in windows (dd for windows basically)
http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs
single executable for accessing ext2 file systems.
i know their rawwritewin app is great.
all you need now is a small fat16 partitio
Am 20. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Lisa Kachold so:
This is your (and perhaps Google's summer of code) project.
Might be a way of doing this, but I don't want us to wait another year.
I can perhaps describe it in both secure and insecure marketing ways,
but it's Han's baby.
Putting security on the
Am 20. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Bryan O'Neal so:
Yes, but you would have to modify their project. I am going out on a limn
here but I am guessing I am the only hard core windows admin on the list.
Possibly. In the end I think we need to find some other people to do this.
Maybe get the samba team in
Hey,
This is your (and perhaps Google's summer of code) project.
I can perhaps describe it in both secure and insecure marketing ways,
but it's Han's baby.
{German genius is plagued with procrastination, I hear?}
On 7/20/09, Bryan O'Neal wrote:
>>
>> We're explicitly talking about USB drives,
>
> We're explicitly talking about USB drives, so might there be a way to
> access multtiple filesystems on a single USB drive without needing admin
> access?
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
> --
>
Yes, but you would have to modify their project. I am going out on a limn
here but I am guessing I am the only
A patent should only last 20 years; Max. FAT 12 and 16 have long since
exceeded their 20 years. Fat 32 has some time left.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Ryan Rix wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
> > "they require you to use FAT during setup."
> >
> > that is because fat is usable by anyone. anything
Am 20. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Bryan O'Neal so:
Their are FS drivers for most common Linux file system that allow you to use
those fs's on windows. But you have to be admin to install them. I believe
you need to be an admin to install the virtual box player as well don't you?
Well, we might need t
Am 20. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Bryan O'Neal so:
Downloading ltools clearly reviles "setup.exe" However, the tell tail
information comes from the text file titled NoADMIN.txt where the first
entry is
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How to run LTOOLS, if
Their are FS drivers for most common Linux file system that allow you to use
those fs's on windows. But you have to be admin to install them. I believe
you need to be an admin to install the virtual box player as well don't you?
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:27 AM, der.hans wrote:
> Am 17. Jul, 200
Downloading ltools clearly reviles "setup.exe" However, the tell tail
information comes from the text file titled NoADMIN.txt where the first
entry is
---
How to run LTOOLS, if you are running on a non-admin account under W
Am 20. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Lisa Kachold so:
If FAT is under licensing contention, m$ will be going after a great
many pendrive manufacturers.
Well, according to the reports m$ likely will at some point.
FAT32 and FAT have literally no security. There is also XFAT and X64FAT.
Yet another re
If FAT is under licensing contention, m$ will be going after a great
many pendrive manufacturers.
FAT32 and FAT have literally no security. There is also XFAT and X64FAT.
http://www.forensicblog.org/2007/05/24/recovering-a-fat-filesystem-directory-entry-in-five-phases/
This means we can do all m
Am 20. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Bob Elzer so:
I didn't realize that UDF was "Gaining popularity on non-optical media"
Sounds like this may be what you are looking for, it sounds like almost
everyone can read it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format
That might be better than plain ol
I didn't realize that UDF was "Gaining popularity on non-optical media"
Sounds like this may be what you are looking for, it sounds like almost
everyone can read it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format
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Am 20. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Stephen so:
check out the latter half of this page it talks about the licensing
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/FAT_file_system
so he can use it in this case without having to worry about royalty.
Yeah, plain old FAT is probably the transition filesystem we'll nee
Am 20. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Bob Elzer so:
My guess would be the easiest thing to do would be to format it NTFS, since
almost everything can read/write it.
Nah, easiest thing would be to ignore and avoid proprietary operating
systems that insist on being incompatible :).
As Ryan reiterated for
I saw that too from my RSS feed from Happy Penguin:
HappyPenguin
·Pink Pony 1.1 (updated)
·Fish Supper 0.1.5.1 (updated)
·Vendetta 1.8.82 (updated)
·Orbit-Hopper 1.16b (updated)
·Zatikon 1.0 (new)
·Canta 0.2-rc1 (updated)
·GearHead 2 0.541 (updated)
·Dirk Dashing: Secret Agent! 1.1.1 (up
I didn't give them any password to buy it, but their may be one to register
the game or something.
I haven't installed it yet.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Bob Elzer wrote:
> I saw this in the comments section, so If you order, use a throw away
> password.
>
> "Watch out what password you
check out the latter half of this page it talks about the licensing
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/FAT_file_system
so he can use it in this case without having to worry about royalty.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Ryan Rix wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>> "they require you to use FAT during set
My guess would be the easiest thing to do would be to format it NTFS, since
almost everything can read/write it.
I understand the resistance, but if you want an M$ systems to see your
files, the ntfs will always work on an M$ system, and Linux has the support
built in too.
The real issue is not t
Stephen wrote:
> "they require you to use FAT during setup."
>
> that is because fat is usable by anyone. anything more is patented.
>
FAT is patented too... See, well, this entire thread.
Ryan
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"they require you to use FAT during setup."
that is because fat is usable by anyone. anything more is patented.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Taylor, Kaia wrote:
>
> I don't know much about reactOS ( http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html
> http://www.nuxified.org/react_os_windows_done_right
I don't know much about reactOS ( http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html
http://www.nuxified.org/react_os_windows_done_right )
but in reading this thread, I wonder how they have avoided the m$
patent/extortion issues? Per
http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/open_source/showArticle.jhtm
sadly there is no natively supported file system for dos/windows that
is not fat or fat32 without installing drivers to windows.
and these cannot quite be done automagically
the closest you can get is fat (as vfat and fat32 have MS patents)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table
Stephen wrote:
> For me with linux/windows i woudl create Fat 32 on volumes 2gb or less
> or ntfs on volumes larger.
>
> not the best choice but it is the most simple and portable one. fat
> will even allow OSX compatability.
>
> anything more complicated tar-gzip and a portable version of 7zip o
For me with linux/windows i woudl create Fat 32 on volumes 2gb or less
or ntfs on volumes larger.
not the best choice but it is the most simple and portable one. fat
will even allow OSX compatability.
anything more complicated tar-gzip and a portable version of 7zip or
winrar if you need to keep
This one was pretty easy, Mac still cant write ntfs... but i can read
now.. finally...
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Bob Elzer wrote:
> I agree with Ryan, if you want to see an ext2 or ext3 partition on M$, then
> you could have a small fat or ntfs with the ext2IFS
> http://www.fs-driver.org/ o
Dazed_75 wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Ryan Rix wrote:
>
>> Dazed_75 wrote:
>>> Makes me wonder if anyone has seriously looked into that (again as a
>>> purely defensive measure).
>>>
>> How can we? Without access to their source code, they have a huge upper
>> hand on Free software i
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Ryan Rix wrote:
> Dazed_75 wrote:
> >
> > Makes me wonder if anyone has seriously looked into that (again as a
> > purely defensive measure).
> >
>
> How can we? Without access to their source code, they have a huge upper
> hand on Free software in this respect. W
Dazed_75 wrote:
>
> Makes me wonder if anyone has seriously looked into that (again as a
> purely defensive measure).
>
How can we? Without access to their source code, they have a huge upper
hand on Free software in this respect. We are 'guilty' of patent
infringment and copyright law violati
I have long been curious how much of their actions (patent threats and
pacts) are not just meant as market and competition control but as
legalistic defensive measures against the potential of action against
Microsoft for the high number of infringements they are likely guilty of. I
mean the argum
moin moin,
as mentioned in other emails, we're meeting at the Glendale public library
for west side meetings this summer.
I've updated the address and directions for the calendar entry. Please
note there is a road closure in the area.
Foothills Library
19055 N 57th Ave, Glendale, AZ
623 930 3830
Am 20. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Mike Schwartz so:
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Mike Schwartz wrote:
This is a new thread, to talk about the location for July 2009 "W Side"
meeting.
I have "tentatively" reserved a room for July 22, 2009
([resv.] hours = 6:00 pm to 9:00 pm.)
at the same librar
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Mike Schwartz wrote:
> This is a new thread, to talk about the location for July 2009 "W Side"
> meeting.
>
> I have "tentatively" reserved a room for July 22, 2009
> ([resv.] hours = 6:00 pm to 9:00 pm.)
> at the same library that we used in for the June 2009 "W
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