Re: Mysql updating dates in a table

2009-08-05 Thread Alex Dean
On Aug 4, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Craig White wrote: I need to update almost all (but not quite all) records in a data table because the dates were imported like '08/04/09' instead of '2009-08-04' I am looking at the mysql reference manual but it doesn't appear that it would be easy to

Fwd: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Lisa Kachold
Joshua has a new PLUG image everyone loves. He is offering to write a Drupal template for PLUG. -- Forwarded message -- From: Joshua Zeidner jjzeid...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:42:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Sonoran Penguin To: Main PLUG discussion list

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Alan Dayley
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Lisa Kacholdlisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: Joshua has a new PLUG image everyone loves. He is offering to write a Drupal template for PLUG. My response is: Go, Joshua, go! Alan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list -

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Lisa Kachold
I also suggested this to Hans 19 months ago when he first published it on the list. I suggested it twice more, but never got a response. I built a new server to update our Debian and Drupal, but it didn't go anywhere, we are all really busy with other things. The theme can be easily changed and

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Stephen
its because she has been posting all the goofy but entertainaing motivationals/demotivationals regarding linux and other geek things... and kittens... On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Joshua Zeidnerjjzeid...@gmail.com wrote:  I made it with GIMP.  How come no one liked it when I posted it I

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Stephen
im game for it... and honestly im curious about the process On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Joshua Zeidnerjjzeid...@gmail.com wrote:  If everyone likes this, I can offer to write a Drupal template for the PLUG site using this concept.  -jmz On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:03 PM, R P

Restoring defaults in Ubuntu Gnome

2009-08-05 Thread Joe
Hey all, So, a while back, I made a ton of changes to my main user account. I removed the gnome-panel completely and replaced it with Avant Window Navigator and Stalonetray. They have served me pretty well for a while, but I think I want to go back to the default Gnome settings. Default session,

Re: Restoring defaults in Ubuntu Gnome

2009-08-05 Thread Stephen
You can remove the .gnome directory Wich should reset gnome only On 8/5/09, Joe li...@joefleming.net wrote: Hey all, So, a while back, I made a ton of changes to my main user account. I removed the gnome-panel completely and replaced it with Avant Window Navigator and Stalonetray. They have

Re: Restoring defaults in Ubuntu Gnome

2009-08-05 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 09:57 -0700, Joe wrote: Is there a way to quickly change all my setting back to defaults? I realize I could make a new user or possibly blow away my home dir and start totally fresh, but I rather do neither (unless those are the only options, of course). I would work

Re: Restoring defaults in Ubuntu Gnome

2009-08-05 Thread Joe
I managed to find the obscure link I used to removed gnome-panel in the first place (and subsequently restored it). Basically, I opened gconf-editor, went to /apps/gnome/session/required_components and removed the entry for panel. All I had to do was add gnome-panel back in, remove AVN and

Re: Restoring defaults in Ubuntu Gnome

2009-08-05 Thread Michael Butash
Contemplate long and hard upgrading, I've had a host of quirky issues since updating ibex to jaunty that have been annoying me. These include screen saver not working (and subsequent locking), random x crashes when I scroll wheel in firefox (wtf?), and still the same old memory leaks that I've

Memory leaks in Ubuntu?

2009-08-05 Thread Michael Butash
Has anyone else seen or experienced persistent memory leaks with ubuntu 32bit or 64? I've literally had issues with it that may or may not be particularly ubuntu issues back to 7.04 that I first noticed. The only thing really in common system-wise is the hardware, and I somewhat suspect it's

Re: Restoring defaults in Ubuntu Gnome

2009-08-05 Thread Eric Shubert
FWIW, I'm patiently sticking with the LTS track (Heron at this point). The only problem I'm having with it (that I know of) is getting the update to Pidgin for yahoo backported. Michael Butash wrote: Contemplate long and hard upgrading, I've had a host of quirky issues since updating ibex to

Re: Memory leaks in Ubuntu?

2009-08-05 Thread Stephen
I honestly have not seen this as an issue before, but i usually poked my machines with a sick until they rebooted once a week because of what i was doing to them. the servers i have running run for a month at a time without a reboot. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Michael

Re: Memory leaks in Ubuntu?

2009-08-05 Thread Michael Butash
I should have mentioned, I have no issues with servers, only desktops running x. I have a server in my house with a year and a half uptime with vmware on hardy. :) -mb On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 13:32 -0700, Stephen wrote: I honestly have not seen this as an issue before, but i usually poked my

Re: Restoring defaults in Ubuntu Gnome

2009-08-05 Thread Michael Butash
I'm too impatient to stick with hardy, invariably I need fixes/features in the new ones no one feels like backporting. There is/was a workaround for it by using a different yahoo login host, scsa.msg.yahoo.com that worked for me before getting the pidgin fix. Have you tried the ppa for

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Howdy, ok Im willing to make a professional Drupal template for PLUG. The whole process should be a few days work. I will make design proofs and the steering committee can decide whatever way they chose (cast ballots, draw straws, dartboard, etc.). The designs will be based on the concept

Using the Broken Filter to find packages in Synaptic package manager

2009-08-05 Thread AZ RUNE
I know I have two broken package that won't let me update libnspr4-dev (Development files for netscape) but I am having the darndest time finding them even when I try to config the broken filter to point them out. Any ideas? Brian --- PLUG-discuss

Re: Using the Broken Filter to find packages in Synaptic package manager

2009-08-05 Thread Ryan Rix
AZ RUNE wrote: I know I have two broken package that won't let me update libnspr4-dev (Development files for netscape) but I am having the darndest time finding them even when I try to config the broken filter to point them out. Any ideas? Brian What's broken about them? Could you be

Re: Using the Broken Filter to find packages in Synaptic package manager

2009-08-05 Thread AZ RUNE
Here is the error E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libnspr4-dev_4.7.5-0ubuntu0.9.04.1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/aclocal/nspr.m4', which is also in package kompozer-dev On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:45 PM, AZ RUNEarizona.r...@gmail.com wrote: I know I have two broken package that won't let

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Lisa Kachold
Committee? No, we just make improvements. No one gets to control things. On 8/5/09, Joshua Zeidner jjzeid...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, ok Im willing to make a professional Drupal template for PLUG. The whole process should be a few days work. I will make design proofs and the steering

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Which is why practically nothing ever happens :( -jmz On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Lisa Kacholdlisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: Committee? No, we just make improvements.  No one gets to control things. On 8/5/09, Joshua Zeidner jjzeid...@gmail.com wrote:  Howdy,   ok Im willing to

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread mike havens
I joined the florida LUG and I never get messages from them except for announcements. So a LOT happens with PLUG. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Joshua Zeidner jjzeid...@gmail.com wrote: Which is why practically nothing ever happens :( -jmz On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Lisa

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Nothing substantial can be organized unless there is clear management. Who will determine what is an 'improvement' and what is a total failure? PLUG needs to grow up and harness the talents that we currently have in abundance. Stop with these silly games pretending no one is running the show.

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Lisa Kachold
Yes, that's true with PLUG. Hans does a great deal, but needs non-profit status, regular people to just do things like update the website, order tee shirts and sell them (we all want tees) and run contests (shirt design) and do promotion (although a plugin for Drupal exists that allows for

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Joshua Zeidner wrote: Which is why practically nothing ever happens :( On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Lisa Kacholdlisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: Committee? No, we just make improvements.  No one gets to control things. ignoring the top posting's misposition [ ;) ],

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Joshua Zeidner wrote: Nothing substantial can be organized unless there is clear management. Who will determine what is an 'improvement' and what is a total failure? PLUG needs to grow up and harness the talents that we currently have in abundance. Stop with these

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Joshua Zeidner
well needless to say Im not interested in doing a template. Think about it... why would I do it? I dont have any guarantee it 1) will be used, 2) be put in a context that doesnt make it look like garbage, 3) be attributed. Just following here for educational purposes. .. Seems like the

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Michael Butash
I wouldn't call it a problem per se, perhaps simply a lack of motivation, but thus far I haven't seen too much of an issue. Politics annoy me, but I've learned to simply ignore the cruft - others maybe not so much. I've not been watching or interacting with the list long, but I haven't seen much

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Joshua Zeidner
I agree completely, but it seems every time we have some political discussion on here, PLUGs nervous system grows more extensive... -jmz On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Michael Butashmich...@butash.net wrote: I wouldn't call it a problem per se, perhaps simply a lack of motivation, but thus

Horribly OT odious troll food

2009-08-05 Thread Trent Shipley
Subsidies to community colleges and state universities should be replaced with a one-size-fits-all higher education vouchers. Using vouchers will contribute to a free market in higher education services, leveling the playing field between the University of Phoenix, Grand Canyon

Re: Horribly OT odious troll food

2009-08-05 Thread Joshua Zeidner
what I dont understand about the voucher system is, why are we taxing just to give back credits? why tax at all? -jmz On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Trent Shipleytship...@deru.com wrote: Subsidies to community colleges and state universities should be replaced with a one-size-fits-all

Re: Horribly OT odious troll food

2009-08-05 Thread Trent Shipley
We used to do that before World War Two and the GI Bill. Very few people went to college. If you were willing to sacrifice any pretense of a knowledge economy and to target a low wage-no tax strategy you could curtail all higher education government subsidy. If I were a politician I wouldn't

Re: Memory leaks in Ubuntu?

2009-08-05 Thread Joseph Sinclair
I have had major problems with the NVidia proprietary drivers, particularly with Ubuntu 9.04. It seems like NVidia introduced a ton of REALLY bad bugs when they had to almost rewrite the drivers for the changes in the new XOrg server. I haven't seen the memory behavior you describe, but have

Re: Horribly OT odious troll food

2009-08-05 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 20:12 -0700, Trent Shipley wrote: We used to do that before World War Two and the GI Bill. Very few people went to college. If you were willing to sacrifice any pretense of a knowledge economy and to target a low wage-no tax strategy you could curtail all higher

Re: Horribly OT odious troll food

2009-08-05 Thread Trent Shipley
Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 20:12 -0700, Trent Shipley wrote: We used to do that before World War Two and the GI Bill. Very few people went to college. If you were willing to sacrifice any pretense of a knowledge economy and to target a low wage-no tax strategy you could

RE: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Bob Elzer
Maybe you should say something political on their mail list :-) It might start things up. Just kidding, Nobody move, do not turn this joke into a another runaway thread. Back away from the keyboard. _ From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us

Re: Memory leaks in Ubuntu?

2009-08-05 Thread Michael Butash
True enough it is tied to caching, but the fact it's marked as inactive when I can definitely attribute application termination from lack of memory is what I note as a problem. The system does not give this back in the way of virtual or physical memory. The system does however behave well enough

RE: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Bob Elzer
Now I think you're procrastinating :-) First you said you would do it, and let everyone decide if we liked it. Now you don't want to. For all we know you might come up with a horrible design. You're going to have to show us what you got, before we say it should be the new theme. Time to put up

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-05 Thread Joshua Zeidner
no way I would even bother without having my terms agreed to by a party who is in the position to do so. Its not asking a lot, its basically a safeguard against my time being utterly wasted. I've worked enough with these free-for-all technology groups to know what to expect of human nature.

Re: Horribly OT odious troll food

2009-08-05 Thread Michael Butash
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/05/it_grad_sues_school/ Couldn't help but think of this... My buddy went for an anthropology degree at a well respected east coast college, and has worked to survive as everything from a mechanic to tech support to management, none of which had any relevance

Re: Horribly OT odious troll food

2009-08-05 Thread Joshua Zeidner
you can always go into teaching. :) or grad school. or burn a pile of hundred dollar bills. -jmz On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Michael Butashmich...@butash.net wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/05/it_grad_sues_school/ Couldn't help but think of this... My buddy went for

Re: Horribly OT odious troll food

2009-08-05 Thread Eric Cope
did anyone ever think that most people attending college are wasting their (parent's | governments | own) money? Most degrees are a waste. Take my wife's degree in sociology. Do you know what you can do with that? Nothing or wait tables. It was a waste. We need to reevaluate your higher education