Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread ಓಂ
http://www.neng.usu.edu/cee/faculty/gurro/Scilab.html can see it is *free*, now how much free is as debatable as .fr as in france just wondering allowed/aloud! -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List:

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 22-Feb-08, at 2:50 PM, ಓಂ wrote: http://www.neng.usu.edu/cee/faculty/gurro/Scilab.html can see it is *free*, now how much free is as debatable as .fr as in france you can modify the code and use the modified code in your organisation - but you cannot distribute the modified code -

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 22-Feb-08, at 4:20 PM, ಓಂ wrote: They are looking at it from different perspective. And they have every right to do that. You branding them as non-FOSS does not change who and how they are! *I* have not branded them - even the OSI doesn't accept their license as a an OSS license. And

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread आदित्य (Aditya)
ಓಂ wrote: that is the just the same way GNU GPL locks people down from exploiting their's own innovations so what is different? GNU wants to have source code of your innovations back to them... Forcing you to give back to the place where you took idea from is still coersive. They are

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread Vivek Khurana
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:50 AM, ಓಂ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that is the just the same way GNU GPL locks people down from exploiting their's own innovations so what is different? GNU wants to have source code of your innovations back to them... Forcing you to give back to the place

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread ಓಂ
Newton did not read Devanagari to know *gurutvaakarshan* so he never understood the *gravity* of situation! Locking down maybe the suitable, perhaps *locking up* is better! -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List:

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread ಓಂ
that is the just the same way GNU GPL locks people down from exploiting their's own innovations so what is different? GNU wants to have source code of your innovations back to them... Forcing you to give back to the place where you took idea from is still coersive. They are looking at it

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread bp
Hello, Scilab:- Bhopatkar Madam scilab is not FOSS - better to demo octave If anyone using octave they are welcome. Our concern is education and not commercial use. FOSS=Free and/or Open Source Software that is how we see towards it. Those who are using software with out purchasing them.

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
bp wrote: Hello, Scilab:- Bhopatkar Madam scilab is not FOSS - better to demo octave If anyone using octave they are welcome. Our concern is education and not commercial use. FOSS=Free and/or Open Source Software that is how we see towards it. Redefining commonly understood terms to fit

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
ಓಂ wrote: Yaaa... next time edit wiki before you start arguing against something.. like some government agencies do.. :-) Wikipedia edits have public timelines and changes can be verified easily FYI. A simple search would yeild hundreds of other references to keep the silliness away from

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
bp wrote: Hello, scilab is not FOSS - better to demo octave If anyone using octave they are welcome. Our concern is education and not commercial use. FOSS=Free and/or Open Source Software that is how we see towards it. Redefining commonly understood terms to fit specific agendas doesn't

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread Vivek Khurana
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ಓಂ wrote: Yaaa... next time edit wiki before you start arguing against something.. like some government agencies do.. :-) Wikipedia edits have public timelines and changes can be verified easily FYI. A simple

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread bp
Hello, scilab is not FOSS - better to demo octave If anyone using octave they are welcome. Our concern is education and not commercial use. FOSS=Free and/or Open Source Software that is how we see towards it. Redefining commonly understood terms to fit specific agendas doesn't seem

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread ಓಂ
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Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread ಓಂ
Yaaa... next time edit wiki before you start arguing against something.. like some government agencies do.. :-) -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information:

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread Vivek Khurana
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:59 AM, आदित्य (Aditya) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ಓಂ wrote: that is the just the same way GNU GPL locks people down from exploiting their's own innovations so what is different? GNU wants to have source code of your innovations back to them... Forcing

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread ಓಂ
माझे गणित नेहमीच कच्चे होते पण थोडे वाचन घडले तेव्हा कळले ... अगणित करावे पुण्य तेव्हाच होते येथे जनन -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information:

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread Aditya Godbole
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:20 PM, ಓಂ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that is the just the same way GNU GPL locks people down from exploiting their's own innovations so what is different? GNU wants to have source code of your innovations back to them... Forcing you to give back to the place

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread Aditya Godbole
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22-Feb-08, at 4:20 PM, ಓಂ wrote: They are looking at it from different perspective. And they have every right to do that. You branding them as non-FOSS does not change who and how they are! *I* have

Re: [OT]Mail filtering (Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP)

2008-02-22 Thread ഓം
Let us think of cost of all headers that get added to each message and their percentage ratio to actual content of the message averaged out over the period of trimester. That might give truer figures.. Just a thought in same direction. --

Re: [OT]Mail filtering (Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP)

2008-02-22 Thread Mehul Ved
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:17 AM, शंतनु महाजन (Shantanoo Mahajan) wrote: Hi Mehul, I strongly agree with you; when only one person has issue, that person should set up mail filters. That was my point. But, I would like to draw your attention to following: - Total number of

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-22 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 22-Feb-08, at 7:26 PM, Aditya Godbole wrote: *I* have not branded them - even the OSI doesn't accept their license as a an OSS license. And i our labs we had some enthusiastic students who were modifying scilab - and about to release the modifications when they found it couldnt be

[PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-21 Thread bp
Hello, We have plan `Foss( Free and Open source software) for maths meet' on Saturday 23rd Feb. at 4.30 to 5.30 at Bhaskaracharya Pratishthana (BP), Pune. www.bprim.org Idea behind the meeting: You/ we can demonstrate free maths software which you/we are using for some particular work.

Re: [PLUG] FOSS for Maths meet at BP

2008-02-21 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 21-Feb-08, at 6:38 AM, bp wrote: Scilab:- Bhopatkar Madam scilab is not FOSS - better to demo octave -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss Conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ --