[PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Desi Penguin
I'm looking for suggestions for LiveCD that suits following setup. 1. Boot from the linux LiveCD. 2. connect your USB thumb drive to access your C assignments program. 3. Open Vi/Editor to write new code. Save code onto the thumb drive. 4. compile your programs using gcc 5. IDE is bonus but not

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Roshan
On Thursday 06 March 2008 16:27, Desi Penguin wrote: I'm looking for suggestions for LiveCD that suits following setup. 1. Boot from the linux LiveCD. 2. connect your USB thumb drive to access your C assignments program. 3. Open Vi/Editor to write new code. Save code onto the thumb drive. 4.

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Desi Penguin wrote: I'm looking for suggestions for LiveCD that suits following setup. 1. Boot from the linux LiveCD. 2. connect your USB thumb drive to access your C assignments program. 3. Open Vi/Editor to write new code. Save code onto the thumb drive. 4. compile your programs using gcc 5.

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Devendra Laulkar
Hi, You can go for Knoppix. It has gcc as well as multiple editors. It has good hardware detection. No need to mount the pen drives. I haven't seen a modern distribution that doesn't mount pen drivers by default. The underlying functionality is cross distribution and provided by

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Devendra Laulkar wrote: Hi, I'm looking for suggestions for LiveCD that suits following setup. 1. Boot from the linux LiveCD. 2. connect your USB thumb drive to access your C assignments program. 3. Open Vi/Editor to write new code. Save code onto the thumb drive. 4. compile your programs

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Devendra Laulkar
Hi, I'm looking for suggestions for LiveCD that suits following setup. 1. Boot from the linux LiveCD. 2. connect your USB thumb drive to access your C assignments program. 3. Open Vi/Editor to write new code. Save code onto the thumb drive. 4. compile your programs using gcc 5. IDE is

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Roshan
On Thursday 06 March 2008 17:50, Devendra Laulkar wrote: While what you are saying is essentially true, there are still a lot of places where old distributions like Red Hat 9 are used. Especially in colleges. True. Fortunately, some have replaced it with RHEL. I hope some SMBs dealing with

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Desi Penguin
Without deviating too much, I also assume, Amit Karpe (from Pune?) had posted a Custom build of Ubuntu with all CS based developer tools within the LIVE CD. Amit, may be you can elaborate more on that option, apart from Knoppix and Fedora Spin. I'm assuming CS==Computer Science, in which I

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Desi Penguin
However, it is assumed, that the C programs are mostly console based. That should be OK. This is meant for beginner/intermediate level. So I don't expect the students to write fancy GUI programs. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin --

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Pranav Peshwe
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Desi Penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for suggestions for LiveCD that suits following setup. 1. Boot from the linux LiveCD. 2. connect your USB thumb drive to access your C assignments program. 3. Open Vi/Editor to write new code. Save code onto

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Pranav Peshwe wrote: Digressing a bit - how about _not_ allowing an IDE at all ? IMHO, using a console based editor is an important and essential skill when operating *nix kind of OSes. Also, using IDEs right from the beginning will keep the student in dark about what goes into compiling and

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Roshan
On Thursday 06 March 2008 20:06, Desi Penguin wrote: [snip] I'm assuming CS==Computer Science, in which I would be very interested to know about it. Yes, I should have written Comp. Sci., atleast, argh! I assume, he has also delivered a tutorial / talk at foss.in/2007 about the remastered

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Roshan
On Friday 07 March 2008 00:50, Pranav Peshwe wrote: Also, using IDEs right from the beginning will keep the student in dark about what goes into compiling and debugging a program. And even more important - the student might develop a feeling that, compiling/debugging without the IDE is

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roshan wrote: | I assume, he has also delivered a tutorial / talk at foss.in/2007 about | the remastered Ubuntu CD for developer (Comp. Sci. students). Is the compose set written down someplace ? Would be good to have a Fedora spin - -- You see

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Desi Penguin
Digressing a bit - how about _not_ allowing an IDE at all ? IMHO, using a console based editor is an important and essential skill when operating *nix kind of OSes. Also, using IDEs right from the beginning will keep the student in dark about what goes into compiling and debugging a program.

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Pranav Peshwe
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Desi Penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, may be we have digressed too much. Could the OP get a copy of Knoppix to try out simple C programs? Latest version I can see is 5.1.1 , it is more than year old (Jan 2007) There is a promise of 5.3 being available

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Pranav Peshwe
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Desi Penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, may be we have digressed too much. Could the OP get a copy of Knoppix to try out simple C programs? Latest version I can see is 5.1.1 , it is more than year old (Jan 2007) There is a promise of 5.3 being available

Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C

2008-03-06 Thread Devendra Laulkar
Hi, Latest version I can see is 5.1.1 , it is more than year old (Jan 2007) There is a promise of 5.3 being available shortly after CeBIT 2008. What happened to 5.2 ? Should I wait for 5.3 or go ahead with 5.1.1 ? I know it doesn't matter for my requirements for LiveCD with Editor+gcc, but