Blisteringblue;673640 Wrote:
I know this, I did have to enable the archive option in the GUI version.
This is all I have done though.
I guess it must be because mine are on the same machine and it is this
same database?
Just a follow up, have looked more closely into this and although I
What is PUID these are sometimes shown in MIP own UI for the tracks ?
All analyzed tracks have fingerprint and analysis stored in the tags
the PUID is not visible in any tag editor I have ?
is this bug in mip that it sometimes shows .
*Are my tracks properly done when they have fingerprint
Mnyb;674255 Wrote:
*Are my tracks properly done when they have fingerprint and analysis
tags ?
*Yes, I believe so. It's a long thread, but I think that is the general
consensus here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84338
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Henry66;674335 Wrote:
Yes, I believe so. It's a long thread, but I think that is the general
consensus here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84338
Good thread it was all above my head urhgh :-/
Fingerprinting is advancing slowly with my geriatric assemble of
computers at work
Mnyb;671484 Wrote:
But the main drawback is that MIPheadless don't store the fingerprint
in a file tag , MIPgui or genpiud does that .
Interesting read and while my MIP and sugarcube (3.50) are working fine
with LMS 7.7 this statement confused me?
When I first setup MIP a couple of months
I run the server and the GUI on different machines So I set the GUI
variant to save fingerprints ,but I see no way you can configure the
headless version to do the same ? Maybe it takes the config from a gui
on the same machine ?
I may try my server again but there is no feedback on where it is
Mnyb;673637 Wrote:
The GUI version fingerprints automatically that I can confirm.
Default setting is to not save fingerprints in files.
I know this, I did have to enable the archive option in the GUI
version. This is all I have done though.
I guess it must be because mine are on the same
Observation it takes a *really* long time to analyze hirez files .
What about it different status for files .
The ones marked in red with to be analyzed is apparently prio nr 1
they are done first .
The ones marked identified (to be verified) is done later in the
validating process ?
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I don't know. I just know if you wait long enough they all go to
Analyzed.
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Duh.
The MIP servers (defunct) seems to really downprioritize any
masstagging operation.
Uding the Windows aplication to analyze one album is fast enough so
finger print new aditions still works in a usable fashion .
However when put into analyzing a folder with more songs it 's getting
very
This explains why users that set up mip way back can still use it now,
where is my time machine ;)
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As I'm finger printing my files separately totally unconected to the MIP
server running on my server .
I assume that the MIP server reads and understand fingerprints that
already exist in the files is a refreash all I have to do or does it
find them If piont it to my library again ?
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How do you clear the MIP servers dB even if I set an empty folder as my
current music folders it still remember all the files
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Mnyb;671299 Wrote:
How do you clear the MIP servers dB even if I set an empty folder as my
current music folders it still remember all the files
You stop the mmserver and find and delete the default.m3lib file, not
that neat.
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Mnyb;671285 Wrote:
Q . Is IO speed a factor I analyze on a win XP (virtual) but the files
are still on my server ?I doubt that it is big a factor. I am running on
native Win7-64 with all
files local on fast drive, and it is excruciatingly slow. I ran it alone
all night (8 hours) using two
Henry66;671373 Wrote:
I doubt that it is big a factor. I am running on native Win7-64 with all
files local on fast drive, and it is excruciatingly slow. I ran it alone
all night (8 hours) using two cores and max priority and it got through
35 tracks.
Then it's their servers by manually
I got MIP set up in headless server mode and now it is running like a
bat out of hell (comparatively speaking). Blew through 100 tracks in
two hours. Go figure.
My question now is, how do MIP GUI and headless server interact?
In the GUI I had disabled some tracks but it looks like the server has
I have MIP headless directly on the server , but it is a small server so
not fast.
But the main drawback is that MIPheadles don't store the fingerprint in
a file tag , MIPgui or genpiud does that .
MIP server use it's dB file as soon as you move files you have to
analyze again.
I also wonder
Mnyb;671484 Wrote:
But the main drawback is that MIPheadles don't store the fingerprint in
a file tag , MIPgui or genpiud does that .Darn.
MIP server use it's dB file as soon as you move files you have to
analyze again.Where does the headless server store its database?
Can I get the GUI to
Probably .
If they are running on the same machine
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Integrating_MusicIP_with_SqueezeCenter#Using_MusicIP
And also all excellent ifo on cparker site for sugarcube plugin .
http://www.spicefly.com/squeezeboxmip.html
Actually I'm also exploring this and
I thought I had read everything there was to read, but I had not seen
that Wiki page before, thanks. The SpiceFly pages I have been through
several times already. :)
I paid for SugarCube today. So much more than the basic MIP
integration, totally worth it.
Today I also paid for a lifetime
Henry66;671488 Wrote:
Where does the headless server store its database?
Can I get the GUI to read this DB and then select Archive to write
the fingerprints into the tags?This worked. Yay!
I still don't know where the headless server stores the fingerprints.
After it had analyzed all my
Search fo this file default.m3lib that's where MIP stores it stuff
besides the tags
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Henry66;671488 Wrote:
Where does the headless server store its database?
Can I get the GUI to read this DB and then select Archive to write
the fingerprints into the tags?
I know the headless and GUI can share the same database, because that
is how I have it. Mainly I just use the
MIP is not utf-8 compatible the fingerprinting skips all files with non
english chars .
Cancel all latin lover sessions while using MIP ;)
My plan is to have sugarcube as a casual DJ I won't be bothered to
rename my files just for this .
My listening pattern is overwhelmingly album based with
Note :
ffs set MIP to preserve file modification times when updating tags
Otherwise the new music menu will be destroyed bummer :-/
But I only have to get 400 new albums then it look as it should again
in 2013 something .
rsync is good.
Now that I'll be on a constant tag modification rally
A BIG hint, the first thing I did was donating to mr parker , a benefit
of that is a version that actually works in SQlite .
This is not the case with the one that can be directly installed from
the plugins tab (2.65 ) it does not works on server newer than 7.5
(without a custom MySQL setup)
I
More Questions .
Q7 . It mixes ! it's alive ! I got quite a lot of mixable tracks
without doing the validation , why is that .
Q8 I got a severe performance problem
The server locks up for 14 seconds everytime SugarCube mixes :-/ why ?
Code:
Dynamic Playlist
Performance is actually tied to the Mix size parameter in the
MIPserver .
it seems to be a threshold effect . the default 20 just stalls the
whole machine .
Experimenting with values between 4-6 A value of 2 works splendidly .
Is it such a cpu hog ?
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Mnyb;669744 Wrote:
Performance is actually tied to the Mix size parameter in the
MIPserver .
it seems to be a threshold effect . the default 20 just stalls the
whole machine .
Experimenting with values between 4-6 A value of 2 works splendidly .
Is it such a cpu hog ?
...Q9 but does
Continuing my monologue of 1000 n00b MIP questions...
Q10 I can not get MusicIP with GUI running on my Ubuntu desktop nor can
I get genpiud to fly on eiter my server or desktop . Suggestions ?
Q11 Can the Headless MusicIP server be configured to write the
fingerprints to the file tags , It
Fortsätt med anteckningarna. Jag väntar på dig att lista ut alla
inställningar så att jag slipper slösa tid på det. :-)
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Q7 - Sugarcube may be picking 'random tracks' if MIP isn't complete, see
the Sugarcube Live View in the Squeezebox Server GUI.
Q8 - The lock up when Sugarcube mixes has been discussed in the
Sugarcube forums, go to Spicefly.com and login - you should have been
given a username and password after
Thanks for your input wiruna, apriciated thankyou
I'll spent 45 minutes writing a post that the bl**dy forum software
flushed for me :-( moderators can you find it. Otherwise I sulk for a
couple of days it's not the first time something like it happens...
#%#^£
(the forum software reguraly
I'l try again in smaller portions .
Q7 If so it's not at all like the random you are used to :) quite
interesting selection...
That begs the question what is a mixable track I apparently have 27800
of them and an insignificant amount of fingerprints .
Takes a while to get what the live view
right choice at all
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Q8 I actually read about the lockups at the sugarcube forum I'm now at 5
tracks in the mix .
I hope cparker fix it's to the next release .
I could not understand if it is a realy bad issue or not, does it
impact the quality of the mix ?
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My experience with this makes me understand the term abandonware
better...
I do have MIPheadless running/functional on both my server and my
ubuntu destop.
I have not detailed how I got it to run on my CC4.2 rhel4.4 based
server OS ,I'll embarrass myself with my crude linux skills..
I now
I noticed the genpiud treads earlier :-/
Not exactly good I must be the last person on the planet signing up to
this abandoned system.
This exactly why logitech *should* make bussines with amplifind (or
competitor ) and make such a feature is a standard plugin to the server
maybe with
Mnyb;669909 Wrote:
I'l try again in smaller portions .
Q7 If so it's not at all like the random you are used to :) quite
interesting selection...
That begs the question what is a mixable track I apparently have 27800
of them and an insignificant amount of fingerprints .
Takes a while
Wirrunna;669925 Wrote:
As I understand it, Random means that Sugarcube picked a track of the
same genre as MIP did not return a track.
In MIP terms a Mixable Track is one that has been analyzed even if the
Analysis tags have not been saved to the file.
Live View shows the tracks
I think MIP first matches your tracks against a database, then the
analysis does something deeper which improves the acoustic matching.
That could be why you have mixable tracks that have not been
fingerprinted yet. Really don't understand all that it does, but this
is what sticks in my mind.
Mnyb;669912 Wrote:
Q8 I actually read about the lockups at the sugarcube forum I'm now at 5
tracks in the mix .
I hope cparker fix it's to the next release .
I could not understand if it is a realy bad issue or not, does it
impact the quality of the mix ?
It shouldn't impact the
Mnyb;669926 Wrote:
Thanks, but thats just weird I can assure you that I have not analyzed
more than 500 tracks not almost 28000 thats why I'm sligthly confused
The tracks may have been Identified to be verified, this is an
intermediate stage where MIP has a match on the tag info and turns the
MeSue;669928 Wrote:
I think MIP first matches your tracks against a database, then the
analysis does something deeper which improves the acoustic matching.
That could be why you have mixable tracks that have not been
fingerprinted yet. Really don't understand all that it does, but this
is
Mnyb;669914 Wrote:
My experience with this makes me understand the term abandonware
better...
I do have MIPheadless running/functional on both my server and my
ubuntu destop.
I have not detailed how I got it to run on my CC4.2 rhel4.4 based
server OS ,I'll embarrass myself with my
Wirrunna;669933 Wrote:
To make MIP perform a bit better I made MIP analyze locally as detailed
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=667967postcount=30 , then
in the MIP GUI I click Library and Stop Analysis, then select the tracks
to be analyzed (Options, Playlist View, add status
Would be grateful on any hint to make this work .
yes I do read on the wiki and SugarCube homepage
I decided to install The Headless MIP server not genpiud (basically out
not knowing better ) .
It was an interesting exercise to manually load it onto ClarkConnect4.2
and manually link ti's
Q5 is the time between mmserver startup and LMS startup sufficient ?
Nov 12 11:35:40 hal mmserver: Running MusicMagicServer
Nov 12 11:35:41 hal rc: Starting mmserver: succeeded
Nov 12 11:35:45 hal runuser: [11-11-12 11:35:45.1521] main::init (354)
Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.7.1, r33690,
Q1 yes
Q2 yes
Q3 yes, there is an option for that in the web UI if you installed the
Spicefly custom one.
Q4 If Sugarcube is enabled for the player you are controlling, just hit
play on a song and it will become the seed to kick off your mix.
Q5 don't know
Suggestion - if you have a
MeSue;669560 Wrote:
Q1 yes
Q2 yes
Q3 yes, there is an option for that in the web UI if you installed the
Spicefly custom one.
Q4 If Sugarcube is enabled for the player you are controlling, just hit
play on a song and it will become the seed to kick off your mix.
Q5 don't know
How do you add music on the server web-page
See screen shot.
Q6 I don't know. I always use filter mixes.
I have Custom Scan set to export Trackstat stats to MIP and have
several filters based on stats.
The settings have information in the Web GUI when you hold your mouse
over the little i.
thanks again for your help .
My simple plan is to use sugarcube .
filter mixes is way over me for now :)
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