If some programs play and others do not - then it is likely to be a BBC
issue.
Have you disabled any audio formats in either BBCiPlayer settings or
SBS Filetypes ?
Can you give a specific example of a program that doesn't play and that
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AlienBBC is broken because BBC have changed their website not because of
7.4.x
Are you using a 64 bit kernel ? If so then install the 32 bit
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are being picked up. Get a log with player.source set to debug and copy
relevant log entries to a post.
First make sure faad and flac are working. Test the SBS versions on a
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after all the activity has
happened.
Copy the messages into a text file, zip the text file and attach to a
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There is a softsqueeze bug which occurs when playing BBCiPlayer. It is
not a BBCiPlayer bug.
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Do you have any 3rd party screen save / screen info plugins installed -
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Can you disable the Music Information Screen and see if program will
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FFWD works for me but I find if you try to ffwd within the first about
30 secs of playing it will fail.
So when you try to FFWD wait about 30 secs after audio has started and
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The Radiofeeds UK APP has up to date URLs for WMA including many local
Radio ones.
The Logitech ones in the BBC App are a bit out of date but should still
work OK for non UK listeners.
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BBCiPlayer should not have audio dropouts as it does not play RealAudio.
Gaps can occur due to buffering - are you getting buffering messages
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Buffering can be due to processor or network overload or poor LAN. What
type of processor/system running SBS have you got ?
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audio stream (e.g. ISP, network congestion) is
at fault but the plugin can do nothing about that. Some users have found
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Did BBCiPlayer work for you on 7.3 ?
Are you in the UK ?
What model player are you using ?
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I had a feeling MIS customisation mightg have been the issue but since I
don't use it, I wasn't familiar with it enough to test it.
This is a bug but it needs more investigation to determine whether the
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I think the problem is exacerbated by the fact the Duration value for a
stream is not known until the stream starts playing but MIS tries to
display the duration when the play button is pressed when duration
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I don't know what you mean by Folder but saving to Favorite works OK for
me.
You should only save a generic menu item - not one that changes on a
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The feature you are looking for is part of Podcast management and
nothing to do with the plugin.
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back to SBS UI web window and now paste the link into the URL
field of Favorite entry being edited. Change the Favorite description to
match and click Save.
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BBC provides schedule info for a specific date so there is some
compromise to be made regarding dates and times.
One possibility is to have BBC time and local time in brackets but then
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Install ALienBBC 2.6b2 - BBC won't work but RealAudio will.
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Are you sure you have 2.6b2 installed ?
That error seems like using a plugin not compatibile with 7.4.*.
You did restart SBS after installing plugin and then check version no
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The urlplays OK for me on same version of Alien and 7.4.2
Can you attach the
/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/Alien/RTSP.pm
file to a post. You may need to zip it if it is too big.
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fetches of info from BBC - this would be a
long delay and I am not sure whether it would be that useful.
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under Factual or Crime
under Drama whose URLs are:
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/bbc_7/factual/travel/list
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/bbc_7/drama/crime/list
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If you have not rebooted your WHS I suggest a reboot (i.e. power off and
restart) as sometimes Windows caching causes strange problems.
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Does your security s/w monitor all network activity - some security s/w
can interfere. If you have security s/w see if you can make
SqueezeBoxSeerver a fully trusted app. (i.e.no network monitoring)
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try increasing the network timeout in case it is a network
congestion/overload issue (WebUI settings/Advanced/Network/radio Station
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Are you in the UK or outside the UK ?
If you are in the UK - does the problem go away if you disable AAC in
BBCiPlaye settings ?
The error related to BBCiPlayer inability to open network connections -
does BBCiPlayer work on your PC ?
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WebUI - Settings/Advanced/BBCiPlayer
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is something to do with SBS handling of AAC but I doubt this
since AAC plays OK for me on both SB3 and Touch albeit at 48K
It needs a UK user to debug. Triode might have a look at it if he see
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the server.log file (WebUI Settings/Information) and copy
log messages from just before try to start playing the stream to the end
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announce it properly
and then put it in my main repository so that it will show up as one of
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Are in the UK or not ? Only AAC will work if you are outside of the
UK.
Can you play this stream on your system - it will test AAC playback.
http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls
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/FileTypes disable AAC-MP3 and AAC-Flac and then see
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As a test of QNAP capability - can you play this stream
http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls
If it doesn't play then workarounds may be needed.
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There seems to be a UK only problem affecting the AAC servers.
See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70702
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could be a significant load
and may not deliver the performance you expect (e.g. may be able to
handle one player but not multiple)
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Outside of the UK, you need to have AAC support working on your
Squeezecentre in order to play BBC Listen Again.
Please try the following stream as it will test AAC support separate
from BBCiPlayer plugin
Http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls
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Paste into the Tune-In box in the WebUI and press play.
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For bit stream limiting check WebUI Settings/Player/Audio
Another possibility - is this a very clean XP system with no additional
MS apps installed ?
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You created the favorite from the Web UI and not the player ?
Can you look at the favorites.opml file and copy the line which has a
BBC 7 URL
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Lame is only needed for bit rate limiting - which means it is probably
OK.
Specifically do you have any of MS Office installed - Word, Excel,
Powerpoint ? If so what version. I think a library may be missing.
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with AAC streams in the UK - it looks like a BBC server issue. A
workaround is to disable BBCiPlayer AAC - then you willplay the MP3
streams with no trasncoding.
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3. run faad.exe and you should get a version message. ANything else is
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plugin.bbciplayer.parser DEBUG
plugin.bbciplayer.rtmpDEBUG
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playlist management, that will be great.
SB currently supports pause/stop and FFW/REW when playing BBC podcasts
so the problem is not with SB.
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You created the Favorite from a playing item instead of from one of the
supplied BBCiPlayerExtra menus as per the instructions so the wrong
parser parameters has been used.
1. Use SBS Web interface and create a Favorite from one of the Extra
menus (e.g. Radio Highlights)
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and a flac.exe in the lines displayed.
If there is then type in the following and press return/enter.
faad
Please post back describing what text you see.
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Everything looks fine - it's just no audio packets are received by SBS.
Is there a firewall or some sort of security on the QNAP ?
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That's good. Because it is a bit pernickety, in the proper release I
may provide all possible categories at a lower menu level which would
avoid long delay in loading.
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window see WebUI Settings/Information bottom of
page.
5. Copy into a text file (use Notepad) all log messages from time of
Play to last message.
6. Zip the file and attach to a post.
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broadcasts using http or mms ? and is the format WMA
or something else ?
2. What format is World service WMA or other ?
3. WHat were you using to play Listen Again on SSOTS 3.8 - AlienBBC
or BBCiPlayer and if BBCiPlayer what version ?
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I think v0.6 of BBCiPlayer did not use Flash/AAC for Listen Again so it
looks like the problem is Flash/AAC and possibly something about the
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The NPR podcast opml has an error.
You can see this if you open the URL in firefox.
http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast/opml.php
Although firefox identifies the problem area at line 4356 col 4 - I
cannot see the problem - it may be a hidden character.
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may a portability issues as Flash code
requires a lot of low level bit byte pack and unpacking in data
structures. THis is the sort of code that can break across different
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I presume you are talking about BBCiPlayer.
I can't see where this happnes as BBC gives each episode a different
name except for things such as News, Prayer for the day etc.
Can you give a specific example which I can look at.
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the same
symptoms. This can result in multiple conversations happening in the
same thread which can be confusing. Each user's problem should be
worked through until the problem is understood.
This may not be the same problem - QNAP problem is a bug in the perl
ported to QNAP.
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implementation, the ARM7500FE FPA Coprocessor Macrocell.
However, since most IEEE floating point implementations are pure big- or
little-endian, shared memory exchange of double variables is complicated
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Volume is nothing to do with the plugin - it just sends packets of data
as received from BBC to a decoder which is then played by the player.
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should be done after swapbytes so
decode_number should be
return unpack('d', swapDoubles(swap( $_[0]) ) );
I'm not 100% sure but just looking at the exiftool.pm code as a
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no difference.
2. The encode_number - I'm not sure - I found it odd that it is used
with different size numbers.
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That's good and it is really the QNAP this time !!
Are you playing Flash/AAC or Flash/MP3 ? With AAC there may be a
transcoding load on the server whereas for MP3 there is no transcoding.
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in the BBCiPlayer settings -
BBCiPlayer should send an MP3 stream direct to player - no transcoding
(i.e.no load on QNAP) and no delay.
Any previous remark I made about 10 secs delay were probably in the
context of mplayer for AlienBBC and playing RealAudio.
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QNAP users only - If BBCiPlayer Listen Again doesn't work but you can
play the station http:///www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls then try the
replacement RTMP.pm replacement file in this post.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=483508postcount=53
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What version of 7.3 ? 7.3.1, 7.3.2, 7.3.3 or 7.3.4 ?
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Thanks it's good to know these things.
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network load.
This transcoding problem may go away next year (or possibly sooner)
when BBC start providing Listen Again in WMA (replacing RealAudio) as
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Check CPU load of the QNAP - if it is high 70% or more then then
transcoding is likely the cause of the problem.
I don't know what tools are available on QNAP to show cpu load but top
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can you run the faad program on a command line with no arguments. It
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It used to. What changed?
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Can't answer about 0.8 as it is UK only but look in the thread as links
may be posted. Look at the thread first before as early versions may be
missing functionality.
AlienBBC is broken due to BBC website changes and the fact that
BBCiPlayer now works for both UK and non UK listeners.
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Sorry but I don't really know how to do this - any tips?
I don't know about QNAP but for a linux system the normal approach
would be first get a shell prompt and this is usually achived by using
SSH from another PC or less secure would be telnet.
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After adding the Car Talk URL to my mysqueeezebox.com - I can play the
podcasts through my SB3 and Radio either when attached to SBS or to
mysqueezebox.com
So I have no problems playing this URL. I am using SBS 7.5 but this
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Now on to attempt to get my SB to synchronize with my SoftSqueeze!
There is no guarantee that Softsqueeze will sync with a hardware
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on players and WebUI alike - the
same as Podcast player App.
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brucegrr;486871 Wrote:
Bpa,
My problem is that SBS pulls the list of podcasts from SBS and not
mysqueezebox.com. I tested this by deleting a podcast. If I delete it
from SBS it is deleted. If I delete it on mysqueezebox.com nothing
changes.
Bruce
What menu item are you talking about
That's what I said in post #9
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Find the SBS server\Bin directory - it should have executables such as
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