Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
KeBul wrote: > Yeah, disabling volume adjustment/replay gain on the Touch changes the > stream details from > 1411kbps CBR, Ogg Vorbis (Spotify) (Converted to PCM) > to > 320k VBR, Ogg Vorbis (Spotify) > > but the file types for either scenario remains: > > 37558 > > > > I don't specifically - as I said in my original post: > > > > Kev Ok, going by memory, I found a similar situation as a starting point. FLAC disabled and PCM enabled. If you have no bandwidth problem whatsoever on your network (troublesome WiFi, etc.) it might even make sense leaving it as PCM, probably slightly less CPU usage. I personally activated FLAC and disabled PCM. gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
For another data point, my FLAC is disabled too. I've never changed my
filetypes from default. I do have volume normalization turned on
("Smart Gain"). And I'm running LAME on rPi4B, with piCorePlayer.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
gorman wrote: > I guess you have volume normalisation active, that disables OGG direct > streaming. Yeah, disabling volume adjustment/replay gain on the Touch changes the stream details from 1411kbps CBR, Ogg Vorbis (Spotify) (Converted to PCM) to 320k VBR, Ogg Vorbis (Spotify) but the file types for either scenario remains: 37558 gorman wrote: > Why do you disable FLAC? I don't specifically - as I said in my original post: KeBul wrote: > I've never touched any file type settings, so all settings should be at > "default" LMS 8.3 Kev +---+ |Filename: 2.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37558| +---+ KeBul's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
KeBul wrote: > Further to my above post, initial test was done using SqueezePlay on my > Mac. > > So tried the same album on my different players... > > Touch, Boom and Radio - all showed 1411kbps CBR, Ogg Vorbis (Spotify) > (Converted to PCM) > > and the Spotty file type settings reverted to: > > 37546 > > Kev I guess you have volume normalisation active, that disables OGG direct streaming. Why do you disable FLAC? gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
Further to my above post, initial test was done using SqueezePlay on my Mac. So tried the same album on my different players... Touch, Boom and Radio - all showed 1411kbps CBR, Ogg Vorbis (Spotify) (Converted to PCM) and the Spotty file type settings reverted to: 37546 Kev +---+ |Filename: 1.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37546| +---+ KeBul's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
I've never touched any file type settings, so all settings should be at "default" LMS 8.3 Here's my Spotty file types: 37542 That intrigued me, very different from yours and had me wondering what stream I received from Spotify. So I browsed Spotify from LMS and selected a album to play... track shows as "320k VBR, Ogg Vorbis (Spotify)" in LMS and my Spotty files types are now: 37544 The other option from the drop down menu for FLAC is "spotty-hf/flac", I guess that would become enabled should a FLAC stream be received. Hope this helps (although it's not helped me :D ) Kev +---+ |Filename: 2.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37544| +---+ KeBul's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
Thanks Michael and Slarti. And this is my point, really. I must have fiddled with the settings at some point. So to put them back to what they should be, a list of defaults will ensure no problems. Or am I misinterpreting your comments? I'm not sure I understand. But basically all those rules are enabled by default. ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
Thanks Michael and Slarti. And this is my point, really. I must have fiddled with the settings at some point. So to put them back to what they should be, a list of defaults will ensure no problems. Or am I misinterpreting your comments? whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
mherger wrote: > >>> Those all right? > >> > >> Of course they're all right. Unless you have a problem with them... > > > > I wanted to be sure these were the default settings, as I mentioned in > > post 3. > > They're not the default settings. But as I said: it doesn't matter > unless you have a problem with the current settings. You must have been > playing with these settings before. > > > I've never been able to find a clear, simple explanation of the File > > Types prefs. Why are there seemingly overlapping terms in File Format > > and Stream Format? What do the letters in the "From" column mean (I, > F, > > R). How do you know which Decoder dropdown to deploy? And is there a > > list of default settings somewhere? > > These settings really should not be touched unless you know really well > what you're doing, or you're told to change them. Otherwise you can > really ignore them. Again: fiddling with them is likely to cause more > harm than bring any advantage. Just leave them alone.Agreed. I fiddled with > my FLAC settings thinking that if I disabled FLAC, tracks would be converted to PCM on the server. They were but I couldn't play 24/96 tracks [emoji2357] Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
Those all right? Of course they're all right. Unless you have a problem with them... I wanted to be sure these were the default settings, as I mentioned in post 3. They're not the default settings. But as I said: it doesn't matter unless you have a problem with the current settings. You must have been playing with these settings before. I've never been able to find a clear, simple explanation of the File Types prefs. Why are there seemingly overlapping terms in File Format and Stream Format? What do the letters in the "From" column mean (I, F, R). How do you know which Decoder dropdown to deploy? And is there a list of default settings somewhere? These settings really should not be touched unless you know really well what you're doing, or you're told to change them. Otherwise you can really ignore them. Again: fiddling with them is likely to cause more harm than bring any advantage. Just leave them alone. ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
mherger wrote: > > FLAC (R) spotty/flac > > MP3 (R) Disabled (greyed out) > > Ogg Vorbis (R) Disabled > > PCM (R) Disabled > > > > Those all right? > > Of course they're all right. Unless you have a problem with them... I wanted to be sure these were the default settings, as I mentioned in post 3. I've never been able to find a clear, simple explanation of the File Types prefs. Why are there seemingly overlapping terms in File Format and Stream Format? What do the letters in the "From" column mean (I, F, R). How do you know which Decoder dropdown to deploy? And is there a list of default settings somewhere? whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
FLAC (R) spotty/flac MP3 (R) Disabled (greyed out) Ogg Vorbis (R) Disabled PCM (R) Disabled Those all right? Of course they're all right. Unless you have a problem with them... ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
whitman wrote: > Ah, so they do! Thank you, Slarti. > > OK, so Spotty currently... > > FLAC (R) spotty/flac > MP3 (R) Disabled (greyed out) > Ogg Vorbis (R) Disabled > PCM (R) Disabled > > Those all right? I would say those settings are fine. You can enable Ogg Vorbis if you like but if you use volume normalisation then FLAC will be used anyway. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
slartibartfast wrote: > Spotty file type settings are completely separate to those ones and have > their own section. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Ah, so they do! Thank you, Slarti. OK, so Spotty currently... FLAC (R) spotty/flac MP3 (R) Disabled (greyed out) Ogg Vorbis (R) Disabled PCM (R) Disabled Those all right? whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
whitman wrote: > Michael, not a problem as such, it's just that I noticed those settings > when I was looking for something else in the prefs, and I had a vague > feeling I may have reset Ogg settings for some reason in the past—and I > can't recall what the defaults are. > > So, I currently have: > > Ogg FLAC > FLAC (R,F,I) flac/sox > Ogg FLAC (I. F) Native > > Ogg Vorbis > AIFF (I,F) Disabled > FLAC (I,R,F) Disabled > MP3 (I.F) Disabled (greyed out) > Ogg Vorbis (I,F) Disabled > PCM (I,F) Disabled > > Is that correct?Spotty file type settings are completely separate to those > ones and have their own section. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
mherger wrote: > > But anyway, can anyone advise on the correct, or at least best > settings > > in LMS's Advanced/File Types? I've always found these a bit baffling > > Are you trying to solve a problem? If so, please describe the problem. > Otherwise just leave those settings alone. Most people fiddling with > them without good reason are causing no better result than they had, if > > not problems. Michael, not a problem as such, it's just that I noticed those settings when I was looking for something else in the prefs, and I had a vague feeling I may have reset Ogg settings for some reason in the past—and I can't recall what the defaults are. So, I currently have: Ogg FLAC FLAC (R,F,I) flac/sox Ogg FLAC (I. F) Native Ogg Vorbis AIFF (I,F) Disabled FLAC (I,R,F) Disabled MP3 (I.F) Disabled (greyed out) Ogg Vorbis (I,F) Disabled PCM (I,F) Disabled Is that correct? whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
But anyway, can anyone advise on the correct, or at least best settings in LMS's Advanced/File Types? I've always found these a bit baffling Are you trying to solve a problem? If so, please describe the problem. Otherwise just leave those settings alone. Most people fiddling with them without good reason are causing no better result than they had, if not problems. ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty and File Types
Not sure if Spotify is still a dirty word round these parts. But anyway, can anyone advise on the correct, or at least best settings in LMS's Advanced/File Types? I've always found these a bit baffling Spotify is delivered to my Spotty plugin as 705kbps CBR Ogg Vorbis according to Material Skin. In LMS's File Types, I see entries for Ogg FLAC and Ogg Vorbis. What needs to be set there? And anywhere else? Thanks! whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
