Re: [pmacct-discussion] pmpgplay - what does it do?

2010-07-26 Thread Paolo Lucente
Hi Chris,

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:03:15AM +1000, Chris wrote:

 So I'd be better off making these 2 match?

 sql_refresh_time: 60
 sql_history: 5m

Correct.

 For what it's worth the log seems to be aggregated on the history time.  
 I only see the 5 min increments when I run pmpgplay in debug mode.

Yes, this is because you get logged down the exact tuple that was going
to be written to the database. And records in the database are fitted in
time bins as per the sql_history parameter. 

Cheers,
Paolo


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Re: [pmacct-discussion] pmpgplay - what does it do?

2010-07-26 Thread Chris

Hi Paolo,


For what it's worth the log seems to be aggregated on the history time.
I only see the 5 min increments when I run pmpgplay in debug mode.


Yes, this is because you get logged down the exact tuple that was going
to be written to the database. And records in the database are fitted in
time bins as per the sql_history parameter.


Thanks for all the info - very helpful :D

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Re: [pmacct-discussion] pmpgplay - what does it do?

2010-07-25 Thread Chris

Hi,


The 'failsafe' mechanism (ie. writing to a backup database or to log
files) kicks in upon receipt of an error code from the RDBMS API. So
what you see in the log file should never be already in the database.


Excellent, thanks.


Your specific configuration is tricky because you write to the RDBMS
every 60 seconds but aggregate on 5 minutes time-bins and hence it's
not possible to determine for sure whether a record is contributing
or not to a certain aggregate. Only work-around i can think of for
your case is to permanenly enable debug in pmacct (or logging in the
RDBMS) so that it's possible, at any moment, to know which queries
have been performed. This at the expense of slightly more resources.

If using default SQL schemas and an INSERT-only scenario, to protect
against duplicates, you could have simply appended the '-i' option
to pmpgplay to disable UPDATE SQL queries. Logics is explained here:


So I'd be better off making these 2 match?

sql_refresh_time: 60
sql_history: 5m

(whether it's 60 secs or 5m's, they should be the same).

For what it's worth the log seems to be aggregated on the history time. 
I only see the 5 min increments when I run pmpgplay in debug mode.



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Re: [pmacct-discussion] pmpgplay - what does it do?

2010-07-23 Thread Paolo Lucente
Hi Chris,

The 'failsafe' mechanism (ie. writing to a backup database or to log
files) kicks in upon receipt of an error code from the RDBMS API. So
what you see in the log file should never be already in the database.

Your specific configuration is tricky because you write to the RDBMS
every 60 seconds but aggregate on 5 minutes time-bins and hence it's
not possible to determine for sure whether a record is contributing
or not to a certain aggregate. Only work-around i can think of for
your case is to permanenly enable debug in pmacct (or logging in the
RDBMS) so that it's possible, at any moment, to know which queries
have been performed. This at the expense of slightly more resources.

If using default SQL schemas and an INSERT-only scenario, to protect
against duplicates, you could have simply appended the '-i' option
to pmpgplay to disable UPDATE SQL queries. Logics is explained here:

http://wiki.pmacct.net/CustomizingTheSqlIndexes

Cheers,
Paolo


On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:53:53AM +1000, Chris wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm using pmacct-0.12.0rc3 with postgresql.

 I've been trying to work out what pmpgplay does when it looks at a log  
 file. I couldn't find much in my searches that go into the details of  
 how it does things.

 It seems it generates a bunch of sql, but does it check to see if that  
 record exists already before applying the change?

 I'm worried about replaying the log and it double-recording data (ie the  
 data is already recorded in the db, and then replaying the log does it  
 again), or will it only apply new records that it can't find in the db?

 I have a missing chunk of data from my database (about 1.5 hrs worth)  
 that I can see in the logs, but the log is surrounded by data that could  
 be in the database (I haven't checked each individual log entry).

 Relevant pmacct.conf info:

 plugin_pipe_size:1024000
 plugin_buffer_size:8192
 imt_buckets: 65537
 imt_mem_pools_size: 1024000

 sql_table_version:1
 sql_refresh_time: 60
 sql_history: 5m

 Any information is much appreciated, thanks!

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[pmacct-discussion] pmpgplay - what does it do?

2010-07-22 Thread Chris

Hi,

I'm using pmacct-0.12.0rc3 with postgresql.

I've been trying to work out what pmpgplay does when it looks at a log 
file. I couldn't find much in my searches that go into the details of 
how it does things.


It seems it generates a bunch of sql, but does it check to see if that 
record exists already before applying the change?


I'm worried about replaying the log and it double-recording data (ie the 
data is already recorded in the db, and then replaying the log does it 
again), or will it only apply new records that it can't find in the db?


I have a missing chunk of data from my database (about 1.5 hrs worth) 
that I can see in the logs, but the log is surrounded by data that could 
be in the database (I haven't checked each individual log entry).


Relevant pmacct.conf info:

plugin_pipe_size:1024000
plugin_buffer_size:8192
imt_buckets: 65537
imt_mem_pools_size: 1024000

sql_table_version:1
sql_refresh_time: 60
sql_history: 5m

Any information is much appreciated, thanks!

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