Re: Status: Test Reforms

2004-07-13 Thread Rocco Caputo
On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 02:54:00PM -0500, Rocco Caputo wrote: The test reforms cannot wait for this thread to resurrect. I intend to begin prototyping tests based on the ideas outlined at http://poe.perl.org/?POE_RFCs/Test_Reforms. I'll post the code to the list when it becomes a useful

Re: Status: Test Reforms

2004-03-01 Thread Rocco Caputo
http://poe.perl.org/?POE_RFCs/Test_Reforms has been revised again in preparation for prototyping the system it describes. -- Rocco Caputo - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://poe.perl.org/

Status: Test Reforms

2004-02-29 Thread Rocco Caputo
The test reforms cannot wait for this thread to resurrect. I intend to begin prototyping tests based on the ideas outlined at http://poe.perl.org/?POE_RFCs/Test_Reforms. I'll post the code to the list when it becomes a useful illustration of the process. Discussion remains open on that plan

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-23 Thread Erick Calder
Randal L. Schwartz Don't remove all examples from the distro. At 30K feet, they were very helpful for me while I was trying to write code, but couldn't get to the website. Or maybe make a simple one-stop-download link on the website. they can at least be packaged separately. in fact, a

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-23 Thread Erick Calder
At some point, the cookbook and possibly the tutorials should be bundled into CPAN distributions. Perhaps POE::Tutorials or POE::Examples I'm almost tempted to suggest that should be left to each distro... in RH one often finds packages like -doc containing all that stuff.

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-23 Thread Erick Calder
At some point, the cookbook and possibly the tutorials should be bundled into CPAN distributions. Perhaps POE::Tutorials or POE::Examples I'm almost tempted to suggest that should be left to each distro... in RH one often finds packages like -doc containing all that stuff.

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-22 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Rocco == Rocco Caputo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rocco POE still ships with about 200K of samples, and it will continue to Rocco until they're replaced by cookbook recipes or tutorials. The plans Rocco have been on display for months at Rocco

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-22 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Rocco == Rocco Caputo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rocco Added to the plan: Rocco At some point, the cookbook and possibly the tutorials should be Rocco bundled into CPAN distributions. Perhaps POE::Tutorials or Rocco POE::Examples, so the low-tech and high-altitude crowds can access Rocco

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-21 Thread Rocco Caputo
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 01:13:30AM -0500, sungo wrote: On (02/07 15:53), Rocco Caputo wrote: I think the tests should be generated at make test time. We get a smaller distribution this way. you've never been terribly concerned about a really small distribution before. we've shipped 10K

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-20 Thread sungo
On (02/07 15:53), Rocco Caputo wrote: I think the tests should be generated at make test time. We get a smaller distribution this way. you've never been terribly concerned about a really small distribution before. we've shipped 10K of examples until really recently. i'd much rather ship 10K

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-18 Thread Rocco Caputo
This thread has stalled. I made more revisions to http://poe.perl.org/?POE_RFCs/Test_Reforms while waiting for feedback. -- Rocco Caputo - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://poe.perl.org/

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-07 Thread Rocco Caputo
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 11:57:26PM -0500, sungo wrote: On (02/04 04:14), Rocco Caputo wrote: Thanks for the reply. http://poe.perl.org/?POE_RFCs/Test_Reforms has been harshly (and incompletely, but it's like 03:00 here) revised based For perspective: The goal of updating POE's test is to

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-06 Thread sungo
On (02/04 04:14), Rocco Caputo wrote: Thanks for the reply. http://poe.perl.org/?POE_RFCs/Test_Reforms has been harshly (and incompletely, but it's like 03:00 here) revised based so, we've gone from our current test suite which is not complete but workable to a proposed test suite which

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-04 Thread Rocco Caputo
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 04:04:10PM -0500, Sean Egan wrote: I read the page and I like the idea of a plan for standardized test. Howver, I am a little concerned with some parts of the plan. The unit tests sound good but POE is a whole environment. So having unit tests are a good thing for

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-04 Thread sungo
On (02/04 04:14), Rocco Caputo wrote: So in practice the wiki's a flop. i don't think i'd say that. the Cookbook alone makes it a success. but the wiki is not a project management or team collaboration tool. its just a web site. esp since watching the wiki for new content is an active

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-03 Thread Sam Vilain
Rocco Caputo wrote: I gave it a shot. Devel::Cover has come a long way since I last looked at it. It only introduces failures in three of the tests. The results are temporarily available at http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/541 Yep, it sure has. You want to generate the HTML report next, which

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-03 Thread Sean Egan
I read the page and I like the idea of a plan for standardized test. Howver, I am a little concerned with some parts of the plan. The unit tests sound good but POE is a whole environment. So having unit tests are a good thing for those parts that can be isolated, but overall will have limited

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-02 Thread Rocco Caputo
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 10:13:04AM +1300, Sam Vilain wrote: Rocco Caputo wrote: Tests are a vital part of the POE project. Its current tests succeed at covering about 70% of POE's its instrumentable breakpoints, but they do so without any coherent plan. Have you tried running the test