South Texas county indicts Cheney, Gonzales
By Alex Lantier
20 November 2008
A grand jury in southern Texas' Willacy County has indicted US Vice
President Dick Cheney and former US attorney general Alberto Gonzales
on state charges of misconduct involving private prisons. The
indictment, brought
At the same time, there continues to be a torrent of media
commentaries opposing the bailout and demanding that Detroit's Big
Three automakers declare bankruptcy in order to rip up existing union
contracts and dump their pension and healthcare obligations. These
commentaries have come from the
obama and lincoln bwahahahahahahahahah
On Nov 19, 10:20 pm, Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No. Linclon would prefer Atilla the Hun or ghingis Khan.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:22 PM, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Get a grip, Travis. I doubt Lincoln would compare himself to Obama!
for 8 yrs the dems and the liberal drive by media have stood in the
President's way while trying to fight the war on terror. these fools
have made scurrilous and unproven statements, as well as committed
traitorous acts. they have done more harm, and aided the enemy. now
all of a sudden they
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now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any
change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even
know it.
On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are
relieved to lose this
it took him a while but soros finally managed to buy the presidency.
On Nov 19, 8:35 pm, Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Travis
Subject: Soros-Funded Democratic Idea Factory Becomes Obama Policy
Font--Bloomberg.com:
Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008,
Bloomberg.com:
At the rate we are going, this country's got maybe 10 years.
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:14 AM, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
for 8 yrs the dems and the liberal drive by media have stood in the
President's way while trying to fight the war on terror. these fools
have made scurrilous and
From: Travis
Date: 2008/11/19
Subject: Does Anyone Have Our Back In the Carribean?
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I'll say it again LW, The quick fix for our economy is debt
forgiveness. What makes the economical world go round? The SOB at the
top are immune from the plight of depression(s) so for them this is
their way of putting us on our knees and licking their boots. This is
not about money for THEM it
What is Fascism; the lesser of the two evils? I don't think so. What
did we (who are the people) do to Benito Mussolini? The republican
are too loosing their head!
Peace,
Doc
On Nov 19, 7:35 pm, Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Travis
Subject: Soros-Funded Democratic Idea Factory Becomes
U.S. Initial Jobless Claims Rose to 542,000 Last Week (Update1)
By Bob Willis
Nov. 20 (Bloomberg) -- First-time claims for U.S. unemployment
insurance unexpectedly rose last week to the highest level since 1992,
a sign the labor market is deteriorating as the economic slump
deepens.
Initial
I predicted 7500- maybe that was too optimistic. Your post is
realistic. Obama's celebrity will last only so long esp as he appoints
retreads to his cabinet.//How does one un-spoil brats?
On Nov 19, 8:18 pm, Jim Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Gee Wally; though I am hesitant to say I told you
And a female border governor who has swamped this country with
impoverished drug-running Mexicans!
On Nov 20, 6:39�am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. �still do not see any
change. �what a farce. �the sheep have been fleeced and don't even
know
may be a move to disempower Russia.
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Don't count on Democrats to deal with illegal Hispanics as they now
have them as supporters/voters.
On Nov 20, 7:10 am, Doc Holliday [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll say it again LW, The quick fix for our economy is debt
forgiveness. What makes the economical world go round? The SOB at the
top
Here's a link to the latest prophecy of prophetess Linda Newkirk about
the imminent downfall of the United States:
http://www.prophecies.org/DOCS/Book%2012/Chapter46.htm
The Bible said in the last days it will be like Sodom and Gomorrha
again. Now they're trying to legalize same sex marriage.
Obama is already stale and he hasn't even been sworn into office! lol
On Nov 20, 8:29�am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
same old spin. �he promised change. �his whole new testament was based
on change. �this is turning into nothing more than a third clinton
term. �no change. �just more lies
Instead he got Robert E. Lee. No doubt about the final outcome of our
Civil War with all the northern manufacturing versus the agrarian
South. The CW solved nothing.
On Nov 19, 9:20�pm, Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No. �Linclon would prefer Atilla the Hun or ghingis Khan.
On Wed, Nov
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ya know holly you really need to get a new load of crap cause the same
old one you kept hauling is really tarting to stink. the dems blocked
everything when the republicans were in control. ever hear of a
filibuster proof congress? well the republicans never had that and
the dems stood in the
Governor Janet Napolitano-AZ- Homeland Security.
On Nov 20, 9:11�am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And a female border governor who has swamped this country with
impoverished drug-running Mexicans!
On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
now he adds a regurgitated washed up
mark,
The truth is the truth lad. You keep making the same bullshit
statements and I'll keep giving you the same answers.
Aww, boo-fucking-hoo.
On Nov 20, 10:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ya know holly you really need to get a new load of crap cause the same
old one you kept
As much as I dislike Gore and think he is bad, bad, bad for this
country, I would never insult him by comparing him to that steaming
pile of fetid dog shit, Al Frankin.
On Nov 20, 10:51 am, Philobealo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Holly, you fucking don't pay fucking attention , do you? The fucking
media, along with fucking obstructionist fucking Democrats in fucking
Congress did everything they fucking could to undermine the
administration and the fucking foreign policy of this country. Do you
fucking understand?
On Nov
mark,
Let's see ,the Democrats have been able to do all these naughty things
with a Republican in the White House and Republicans controlling
Congress for 6 of the 8 years.
Gee, I guess that would make Republicans impotent, incompetent fucks,
wouldn't it?
On Nov 20, 6:14 am, mark [EMAIL
JGG1000 this is a copy of an email from WNCS . you are free to do as
you wish but i will not post or respond to anything on garrs board
until WNCS is reinstated as a member in good standing and moderator
if
she still wishes to do that .
-- Forwarded message --
From: wncs [EMAIL
so holly, since the dems have been in control for the last 2 yrs, then
they are to blame for everything that has happened right? the
economy, the gas prices, the stock market, and on and on. right?
they are in charge, right?
On Nov 20, 11:55 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zeb,
Oh
Something most will not remember - Janet Napolitiano represented Anita Hill.
CW
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From: rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PoliticalForum PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:55
Subject: Re: where is the change
Governor
You are talking his language now Zeb.
CW
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From: Zebnick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PoliticalForum PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:27
Subject: Re: for 8 yrs the dems have stood in the way
Holly, you fucking don't pay fucking
Marks makes a valid point and by denying it's validity you lose any
credibility in the discussion.
Let's try something crazy here Woody and actually have an honest discussion.
I tend to believe that divided government was the original intent of the
framers for so many obvious reasons not the
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/20/america-china-hacking-security-obama
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U.S. Economy: Jobless Claims Approach Highest Level Since 1982
By Bob Willis and Shobhana Chandra
Nov. 20 (Bloomberg) -- The number of Americans filing for unemployment
benefits approached a 26-year high, and a gauge of the economy's
future performance dropped, sending yields on benchmark
GW NUTS DON’T HAVE TO WORRY. JUST WAIT FOR THE NEXT VOLCANIC ERUPTION.
VOLCANOES SPEW MUCH MORE CO2 THAN HUMANS.
VOLCANOES HAVE THE BIGGEST AFFECT ON CLIMATE CHANGE.
The increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere
are not the only factors influencing climate. Explosive
Just putting the fucks in there so you have something to relate to,
Holly. I know how hard it is for you to communicate without a liberal
dose of fucks.
On Nov 20, 11:55 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zeb,
Oh the drama! Everyone's against me, it's a conspiracy!
Mw, they won't let
CW,
Yeah, but he's not as fucking creative as I am.
On Nov 20, 12:40 pm, Cold Water [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are talking his language now Zeb.
CW
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From: Zebnick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PoliticalForum PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday,
Cold,
We've already experienced what happen when the Republicans control
both the WH and the Congress, haven't we?
How much worse can the Democrats fuck up?
On Nov 20, 1:02 pm, Cold Water [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marks makes a valid point and by denying it's validity you lose any
credibility
I don't know Woody. The Republicans never had a filibuster proof majority.
We are going in circles now. dizzy
CW
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From: Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PoliticalForum PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 04:03
Subject: Re: for 8 yrs
So who still believes that the tax cuts to the rich works?
November 20, 2008
Sean Lewis
Bush Republicans the country is now suffering from the arrogant
incompetence of an ignorant President and a self serving Republican
Administration and Republican controlled Congress.
I repeatedly warned of
rigs,
Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the
Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me.
On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And a female border governor who has swamped this country with
impoverished drug-running Mexicans!
On Nov
jgg1000 is an old email account... Yes for your information jgg1000
ia alive and well... Sorry you were unable to clutter my emial
box...
On Nov 20, 7:33 am, mike [move on] 532 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[ as you can see i did not wish to post this on here but your email
does not work so here
an Iraqi-American alliance because a majority of Iraqi perfer us as
allies to countries like Saudi Arabia, Syria, or Iran...
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/sadr-takes-aim-at-new-us-iraq-agreement/2/
I think the fact that prominent Sadrist leader Hazim Aaraji said they were
shocked by the
WASHINGTON, DC - Congress is considering sweeping legislation, which
provides new benefits for many Americans. President Elect Obama will
have the opportunity to sign the The Americans With No Abilities Act
(AWNAA) which is being hailed as a major legislation by advocates of
the millions of
You need someone who understands the ways things are done
to make the change.
The Clinton Administration accomplished a positive change for
the US economy after the first Bush.
With the mess the second Bush is now leaving, this is not the
time to have neophytes trying to find where the rest
First you cut the taxes to the people who NEED it, the
middle class, once things stabilize THEN you raise taxes
to the Wealthy.
It is not rocket science. However it seems beyond the grasp
of the ignorant Bush Republicans.
On Nov 20, 1:20 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and who are the idiots
The US interference in Iraqi politics makes the Iraqi puppet
government illegal under UN law. An occupying force MUST NOT influnce
domestic politics or the running of the economy--the US has done both.
In fact the US drafted the Iraqi constitution.
Lets rubber stamp an imperialist occupation.
The Iranians are just one more example of a missed opportunity
cause by the errant war of unprovoked aggression in Iraq.
Yet you myopic ignorant Bush Republicans can't see the damage
you caused with your 'enlightened' policies.
You had your chance, you FUCKED EVERYTHING UP,
now shut the fuck up
Hey stupid, the war of terror was NEVER in Iraq.
IT BECAME a war in Iraq after the ignorant Bush
Republicans decided to make it a war on terror.
You dumbasses were warned.
Bush Sr. even wrote a book telling why he did not invade
Iraq.
But you ignorant dumbasses thought you knew better,
Look
The Bush Tax cuts was suppose to create 15 million jobs.
If we are lucky we may still have the same number of Americans
employed as we did in 2001 when Bush was elected.
Bush is erasing all of the gains of the Clinton Administration!
On Nov 20, 11:32 am, \Lone Wolf\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The war with al Queda had been going on for years before we ever went
into Iraq. President Bubba was too busy getting his johnson polished
by interns to notice though. What's your excuse?
On Nov 20, 4:30 pm, VT Sean Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey stupid, the war of terror was NEVER in Iraq.
This was not prophecy it was common sense...
I wrote about it myself in December of 2005
http://vtsl.blogspot.com/2005/09/collapse-of-american-preeminence-bush.html
Wednesday, September 21, 2005
The Collapse of American Preeminence, The Bush Legacy
The Collapse of American Preeminence, The
Stupid analyis. Totally wrong. Don't bother trying again.
On Nov 20, 4:24 pm, \Lone Wolf\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The US interference in Iraqi politics makes the Iraqi puppet
government illegal under UN law. An occupying force MUST NOT influnce
domestic politics or the running of the
Jesuit Infiltration Of Judaism, Including Zionism
I highly recommend this video in its entirety. But please, at the very
least, see last few minutes of this part n in which a 7th Day
Adventist confirms that the Jesuits infiltrated Judaism and the
Zionist movement, inter alia.
let others who know what they are doing
You mean you cowardly, limp-wristed, fifth column, anti-American,
adolescent lib/Dems? ROTFLMAO
On Nov 20, 4:27 pm, VT Sean Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Iranians are just one more example of a missed opportunity
cause by the errant war of
BULL SHIT, Bush used the signing statements to get around
Congress and the Republicans hid legislation in Budget Bills
and the War finance Bills.
On Nov 20, 8:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ya know holly you really need to get a new load of crap cause the same
old one you kept hauling is
Nice try, But when Clinton did try to get Al qaida the
Republicans started saying the term 'Wag the Dog
Remember that asshole?
Of course not!
On Nov 20, 1:35 pm, Zebnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The war with al Queda had been going on for years before we ever went
into Iraq. President Bubba
Unlike you dumb ass I have a written history of being correct.
This is from December 2003
Right now we are in Iraq for the duration, for better or worse. I
believe if the outcome should be negative, no WMDs or connection to
the 9/11 terrorists, World opinion will not be against the American
World opinion will not be against the American people or this country, but
against the Bush administration.
What total BS... If the issue was not Iraqi, our opponents would have
made another issue... Why are they our opponents??? Our National
interests clash...
On Nov 20, 4:46 pm, VT
This is from BEFORE THE FIRST SHOT WAS FIRED!
I wrote this in February 2003.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:02 PM
Subject: One Man's Humble Opinion
Preface, here are a series of email comments posted on the Internet in
regard to current
When the American dream was a valid term, the nominal tax rate for
business was 75%. Whether that is a lot, or whether it is not, it was
what was required to achieve social harmony and equilibrium between
the classes. At the end of the day business was still making money and
the populace was
Learn how to read, I said the Republicans hid,
Not Bush, the Republicans in Congress.
On Nov 20, 1:41 pm, Zebnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hid legislation? DId he use invisable ink?
On Nov 20, 4:39 pm, VT Sean Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BULL SHIT, Bush used the signing statements to
So all you have to do to stop a President in his tracks from doing the
right thing is say wag the dog? You are truely a moron and I'm sure
Clinton would be embarrassed to have you as his defender.
On Nov 20, 4:41 pm, VT Sean Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nice try, But when Clinton did try to
I understand this and so now do the majority of America,
it is just the Bush Republicans who think a good ol boy
was a good choice to run the country because they
thought he was a good person to have a beer with.
What a qualification to pick a President by, look how well
that has turned out for
You Republicans Blocked him and turned public opinion.
Once again you Bush Republicans did what was in the
best interest of the Republican party and not what was
in the best interest of the Country!
On Nov 20, 1:54 pm, Zebnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So all you have to do to stop a President
And compare it to the debate in Flordia 2000
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/11/022110.php
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CW,
And the Democrats have at some point during the past 8 years?
Face it people BOTH the Democrats and Republicans are lying, thieving,
self-centered, self-absorbed and greedy assholes. All ANY of us ever
do is vote for the guys we hate a little bit less than the other guys
at any given point
Interesting because I was writting this in 2005!
http://vtsl.blogspot.com/2005/09/collapse-of-american-preeminence-bush.html
Wednesday, September 21, 2005
The Collapse of American Preeminence, The Bush Legacy
The Collapse of American Preeminence, The Bush Legacy
In the Next three years we will
Zeb,
Be so kind as to point out where and how LW is wrong.
Your just saying he is does not mean jack shit.
On Nov 20, 3:37 pm, Zebnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stupid analyis. Totally wrong. Don't bother trying again.
On Nov 20, 4:24 pm, \Lone Wolf\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The US
Bush Jr used the same people as Bush Sr.
after 4 years of failed governance under Bush the
elder, is it any wonder 8 years with the same idiots
created expodentially worst results?
Obama is tapping on the individuals who fixed the
mess from the first Bush administration to fix
the bigger mess
I am will do all that is in my power to take my country back.
You can be sure I will be going against the old Democrat guard
who may want business as usual.
I want my country back!
On Nov 20, 2:16 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CW,
And the Democrats have at some point during the
it's called soaking the taxpayers to enlarge the government, and
spread the wealth to the worthless.
On Nov 20, 5:22 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mark,
It's called paying your bills and reducing debt.
On Nov 20, 3:20 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and who are the idiots who
Woody said: CW,
And the Democrats have at some point during the past 8 years?
CW Wrote:
No, I didn't say that!! In fact, the end of the Bush Administration will
mark the end of a 40-year period during which, for thirty of those years,
the White House and at least one House of Congress
mark,
You prefer speading the wealth to the already wealthy?
Right, as if the Republicans never enlarge the govt.
On Nov 20, 4:54 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it's called soaking the taxpayers to enlarge the government, and
spread the wealth to the worthless.
On Nov 20, 5:22 pm,
I heard there may be as many as 4 million now.
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
mark,
Great! The tourism board in that city will be delighted, everyone from
resturants to cab-drivers to hotels and bar-tenders will be thrilled.
You're a spoil-sport.
On
From: Travis
Subject: New Al Gore Movie...very serious
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On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Zebnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As much as I dislike Gore and think he is bad, bad, bad for this
country, I would never insult him by comparing him to that steaming
pile of fetid dog shit, Al Frankin.
On Nov 20, 10:51 am,
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Subject: Americans With No Abilities Act (AWNAA)
To: PoliticalForum PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com
WASHINGTON, DC - Congress is considering sweeping legislation, which
provides new benefits
This is really much needed legislation. I hope it is quickly passed and
properly funded.
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:19 PM, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
WASHINGTON, DC - Congress is considering sweeping legislation, which
provides new benefits for many Americans. President Elect Obama will
From: *Travis*
Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008
Subject: The Navy's Floating Fiasco
If all the info below is true, it's got to be outright shame to SECDEF,
SECNAV, Dept of the Navy, Aquisition, Budget, GAO, and our professional
inspectors for signing off and accepting this canoe in the name of
You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help.
On Nov 20, 3:11�pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
rigs,
Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the
Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me.
On Nov 20, 9:11�am, rigsy03
Doc reiterates
http://groups.google.com/group/abc_politics_forum/browse_thread/thread/6fc5c1094ae03d66?hl=en
You folks are blind as shit. Can't you see that all this financial
business is happening for a reason. Do you think these financial
giants are so damned stupid they could not forecast
Travis,
Even better.
On Nov 20, 6:40 pm, Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I heard there may be as many as 4 million now.
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
mark,
Great! The tourism board in that city will be delighted, everyone from
resturants to
And the US bombed the towers on 9/11...
On Nov 20, 7:15 pm, Doc Holliday [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doc
reiterateshttp://groups.google.com/group/abc_politics_forum/browse_thread/threa...
You folks are blind as shit. Can't you see that all this financial
business is happening for a
Are Republicans this stupid? After the crap Bush and the
Republican Controlled Congress did from Terri Schiavo to
outing a CIA agent, illegal black operations, lying about the
NIE, doubling the national debt, they have the nerve to point fingers?
STFU!
On Nov 19, 8:12 am, mark [EMAIL
FEMA camps fully staffed ready to go
Posted September 29th, 2008
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995allows the government to seize and control the
communication media.EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997allows the government to take
over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998allows
LMAO, it was BUsh and the Republicans who gave money
to companies to offshore american jobs push for trade
agreements that allowed uS companies to offshore these jobs
and cut the taxes on the thieves who run the Hedge Funds
Do you really believe that saying such asinine BS mean anything
outside
Was
Obama the Only Socialist Running?
Posted by
Mike Tennant at
12:41 PM
George
Will doesn't think so. In fact, says he, spreading [wealth] is
mostly what Washington does. Here, the Constitution is an afterthought;
the supreme law of the land is the principle of concentrated benefits and
“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the
Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”
“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case
that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”
“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed
So which is it, Bush is detroying the economy
or the US Corporation are destroying the economy
or are the two working together?
Did US jets shot down the third passenger plane?
On Nov 20, 9:54 pm, Doc Holliday [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President
Funny how Republicans are just now coming to their fiscal senses after
8 years
of near comatose governnance.
On Nov 20, 8:34 pm, M.A. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Was Obamathe Only Socialist Running?Posted byMike Tennantat 12:41
PMGeorgeWill doesn't think so.In fact, says he, spreading
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