Re: [PoliticalForum] New Social Security Checks

2017-08-05 Thread Brian Bednarek
It has always been a ponzi scheme .. you and I are paying for people who
currently collect, it has never been an individual savings account!!!In the
80s when they raided the surplus (designed to fill the gaps when there are
less workers) is why it's a mess ... all those politicians should be in
jail!!!

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Hot4azintop via PoliticalForum <
politicalforum@googlegroups.com> wrote:

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>
>
>
> How dare these DC Swamp Feeders lump Social Security folks and degrade
> them by deciding that our money is a government benefit just as welfare,
> food stamps, etc. is a federal benefit. We earned every penny over a life
> time of work and these SOB's decide it just like welfare...clean the
> swamp and defeat these bastards. Sounds like they have decided that social
> security folks are to be added to their list of DEPORABLES.Signed, a
> proud Deporable.
>
>
>   POST SCRIPT:
> Do these fools ever consider the cost to change all the
> government documents that use the term Social Security to their new welfare
> phrase..at a minium millions of dollars in paper, ink, rewrites, and
> wasted current documents that will be discarded...this from the
> environmental sensitive Dumbocrats.
>
>
>
> *A woman died at age 65. She paid into the system for almost 50 years and
> collected NOTHING?*
> *Keep in mind all the people that die every year that were paying into the
> system and got nothing!*
>
> *And these governmental morons mismanaged the money and stole from the
> system,** so that it's now going broke.*
> *BEAUTIFUL!*
> * and they have the audacity to call today's seniors "vultures" in an
> attempt to cover their ineptitude. DISGRACEFUL!*
> *The real reason for renaming our Social Security payments is so the
> government can claim that*
> *all those social security recipients are receiving entitlements thus
> putting  them in the same case*
> *as welfare, food stamp recipients.*
>
> *THIS IS WORTH THE FEW MINUTES IT TAKES TO READ AND DIGEST!*
>
> *F.Y.I.  By changing the name of  SS contributions it gives them a means
> to refute this program in the future.*
>
> *It's free money for the government to spend under this guise.*
>
> *It is really sad to think that most people will just roll over and accept
> this as if there is nothing that can be done, but maybe there is if we make
> a little noise  about our displeasure with what they have done to today's
> retirees.   *
>
> *I will pass this on!*
>
> *The Social Security check is now (or soon will be) referred to as a
> *Federal Benefit Payment*?*
>
> *I'll be part of the one percent to forward this. I am forwarding it
> because it touches a nerve in me,* *and I hope it will in you.*
>
>
> *  Please keep passing it on until everyone in our country has read it.*
> *The government is now referring to our Social Security checks as a
> "Federal Benefit Payment."*
>
> *This isn't a benefit. It is our money paid out of our earned income!  Not
> only did we all contribute to Social*
>
> *Security but our employers did too. It totaled 15% of our income before
> taxes.*
> *If you averaged $30K per year over your working life, that's close to
> $180,000 invested in Social Security.*
>
> *If you calculate the future value of your monthly investment in social
> security ($375/month, including both you and your*
> * employers contributions) at a meager 1% interest  rate compounded
> monthly, after 40 years of working you'd have more than $1.3+ million
> dollars saved!*
>
>
> *this is your personal investment. Upon retirement, if you took out only
> 3% per year, you'd receive $39,318 per year,* *or $3,277 per month.*
>
> *That's almost three times more than today's average Social Security
> benefit of $1,230 per month, according to the** Social Security
> Administration. (Google it – it's a fact).* *And your retirement fund
> would last more than 33 years (until you're 98 if you retire at age 65)! I
> can only imagine*
> * how much better most average-income people could live  in retirement if
> our government had just invested our money in low-risk interest-earning
> accounts.*
>
>
>
> *Instead, the folks in* * Washington* *pulled off a bigger *Ponzi scheme*
> than Bernie Madoff ever did. (Lyndon Johnson)*
>
> *They took our money and used it elsewhere. They forgot (oh yes, they
> knew) that it was OUR money they were taking.  They*
> * didn't have a referendum to ask us if we wanted  to lend the money to
> them.  And they didn't pay interest on the debt they assumed. And recently
> they've told us that the money won't support us for very much longer.
> (Isn't it funny that they NEVER say this about welfare payments?) *
>
>
> *But is it our fault they misused our investments?  And now, to add insult
> to injury, they're calling it a *benefit*, as if*
> * we never worked to earn every penny of it.Just because they borrowed the
> money, doesn't mean that our investments were a charity!*
>
> *Let's take a stand. We have ea

[PoliticalForum] New Social Security Checks

2017-08-05 Thread Hot4azintop via PoliticalForum




 


 
 
How dare these DC Swamp Feeders lump Social Security  folks and degrade 
them by deciding that our money is a  government benefit just as welfare, food 
stamps, etc. is a federal  benefit. We earned every penny over a life time 
of work and these  SOB's decide it just like welfare...clean the swamp 
and defeat  these bastards. Sounds like they have decided that social security 
 folks are to be added to their list of DEPORABLES.Signed, a proud  
Deporable.









 
  POST SCRIPT:
 Do these fools ever consider the cost to change all the 
government documents  that use the term Social Security to their new welfare 
phrase..at a  minium millions of dollars in paper, ink, rewrites, and 
wasted 
current  documents that will be discarded...this from the environmental 
sensitive  Dumbocrats.



 

 
 
A woman died at age 65. She paid into the system  for almost 50 years and 
collected  NOTHING?
Keep in mind all the people that die every year  that were paying into the 
system and got  nothing!

And  these governmental morons mismanaged the money and stole from the  
system,  so that it's now  going broke.
BEAUTIFUL!  and they have the  audacity to call today's seniors "vultures" 
in an attempt to cover  their ineptitude. DISGRACEFUL!

The real reason for renaming our Social Security  payments is so the 
government can claim  that
all those social security recipients are receiving  entitlements thus 
putting  them in the same  case
as welfare, food stamp  recipients.

THIS IS WORTH THE FEW MINUTES IT TAKES TO READ AND  DIGEST!
 
F.Y.I.  By changing the name of  SS  contributions it gives them a means to 
refute this program in the  future.
It's free money  for the government to spend under this  guise.


It is really sad  to think that most people will just roll over and accept 
this as if  there is nothing that can be done, but maybe  there is if we 
make a little noise  about our displeasure with  what they have done to today's 
 retirees.

I will pass this  on!

The Social Security check is now (or soon will be)  referred to as a 
*Federal Benefit  Payment*?

I'll  be part of the one percent to forward this. I am forwarding it  
because it touches a nerve in me, and  I hope it will in  you.

Please keep  passing it on until everyone in our country has read  it.

The government is now referring to our Social  Security checks as a 
"Federal Benefit  Payment."
 
This isn't a benefit. It is our money paid out of  our earned income!  Not 
only did we all contribute to  Social
Security but our  employers did too. It totaled 15% of our income before  
taxes.

If you averaged $30K per year over your working  life, that's close to 
$180,000 invested in Social  Security.
 
If you calculate the future value of your monthly  investment in social 
security ($375/month, including both you and  your employers  contributions) at 
a meager 1% interest  rate compounded  monthly, after 40 years of working 
you'd have more  than $1.3+ million dollars  saved!



this  is your personal investment. Upon retirement, if you took out only  
3% per year, you'd receive $39,318 per year,  or  $3,277 per month.
 
That's  almost three times more than today's average Social Security 
benefit  of $1,230 per month, according to  the  Social  Security 
Administration. 
(Google it – it's a  fact). And  your retirement fund would last more than 
33 years (until you're 98  if you retire at age 65)! I can only  imagine how 
much better  most average-income people could live  in retirement if our  
government had just invested our money in low-risk  interest-earning accounts.




Instead,  the folks in   Washington pulled  off a bigger *Ponzi scheme* 
than Bernie Madoff ever did. (Lyndon  Johnson)
 
They took our money and used it elsewhere. They  forgot (oh yes, they knew) 
that it was OUR money they were  taking.  They didn't have a  referendum to 
ask us if we wanted  to lend the money to  them.  And they didn't pay 
interest on the  debt they assumed. And recently they've told us that the money 
won't  support us for very much longer. (Isn't it  funny that they NEVER say 
this about welfare payments?) 



But is it our fault they misused our  investments?  And now, to add insult 
to injury, they're calling  it a *benefit*, as if we never worked to  earn 
every penny of it.
Just because they  borrowed the money, doesn't mean that our investments 
were a  charity!
 
Let's take a stand. We have earned our right to  Social Security and 
Medicare. Demand that our  legislators
bring some sense into our  government.
 
Find a way to keep Social Security and Medicare  going for the sake of that 
92% of our population who need  it.

Then call it what it  is: 
 
Our Earned Retirement  Income.
 
99% of people won't forward this.  

Will you?
 
 
You can bet I WILL  !!!
 
 












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