Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-24 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Mar 21, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: Can anybody test the pool command in a IPv6 only environment? For what it's worth: I'm using it on some of my boxes at home; though they have IPv4, too. It's working fine as far as I can tell except for the quirk that

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-21 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 21:02, Hal Murray wrote: mar...@v.loewis.de (mailto:mar...@v.loewis.de) said: OTTH, there is also a less-real chance that someone is negatively affected by the status quo - if they have an IPv6-only node, they would only get one time server configured, even

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-21 Thread Hal Murray
Can anybody test the pool command in a IPv6 only environment? For what it's worth: I'm using it on some of my boxes at home; though they have IPv4, too. It's working fine as far as I can tell except for the quirk that you get twice as many active servers when you are dual stacked compared to

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-13 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Markku Miettinen su...@surfa.name wrote: This is absolutely the way that a client SHOULD NOT work and this is what many OS and application developers with IETF have been trying to shoot down for years. It is not how IPv6 works as stated one of latter e-mails.

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 12.03.13 22:48, schrieb Markku Miettinen: This is absolutely the way that a client SHOULD NOT work and this is what many OS and application developers with IETF have been trying to shoot down for years. It is not how IPv6 works as stated one of latter e-mails. No no no. It works exactly as

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-12 Thread Mouse
Do you have any stats about what kind of IPv6 traffic the pool sees? Looking at my one v6 enabled NTP server I see only a tiny amount of v6 traffic. I'm seeing pretty close to none (I've been snooping for over ten minutes and have seen exactly two incoming and two outgoing packets). But I

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-12 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 11:00, Brian Rak wrote: Do you have any stats about what kind of IPv6 traffic the pool sees? I started making a program to track the NTP traffic last fall, but I didn't get too far. I'd guess 1/50 to 1/200th of the IPv4 traffic. Looking at my one v6 enabled NTP

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-12 Thread James Hartig
:* pool@lists.ntp.org *Subject:* Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 11:00, Brian Rak wrote: Do you have any stats about what kind of IPv6 traffic the pool sees? I started making a program to track the NTP traffic last fall, but I didn't get too far

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-12 Thread Markku Miettinen
it is.. -- Markku Miettinen From: James Hartig Sent: ‎March‎ ‎12‎, ‎2013 ‎8‎:‎14‎ ‎PM To: su...@surfa.name CC: Ask Bjørn Hansen; pool@lists.ntp.org Subject: Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers I'm seeing like 2x traffic in Canada at my server compared to IPv4. Even when the net speed is roughly half

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Rak
I'd have to agree as well. Enabling IPv6 on all the pool hostnames is probably a safe thing to do at this point. On 3/12/2013 3:36 PM, Richard Braun wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 07:05:29PM +, su...@surfa.name wrote: I guess we would indeed see notable increase in traffic if we enabled

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-12 Thread Darryl Ross
Hi Ask, Why would service be worse? Doesn't ntpd ask for A and records? If so, it'd still get the same number of IPv4 records, plus the IPv6? -Darryl (I've just added 3x IPv6 servers to the pool in AU). On 13/03/2013 7:41 AM, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: On Mar 12, 2013, at 12:59, Brian

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-12 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Mar 12, 2013, at 16:48, Darryl Ross dar...@afoyi.com wrote: Why would service be worse? Doesn't ntpd ask for A and records? If so, it'd still get the same number of IPv4 records, plus the IPv6? Most clients will only use the records if available.

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-12 Thread oliver domke
You can setup multiple servers, but only one IP is fetched from a DNS server at a time. That's a fact of the DNS system. If IPv6 is running properly, records are priorised. That means that every client able to use IPv6 will use IPv6. Am 13.03.2013 01:56 schrieb Darryl Ross dar...@afoyi.com:

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-12 Thread Kenyon Ralph
On 2013-03-13T02:35:06+0100, oliver domke m...@piflix.de wrote: You can setup multiple servers, but only one IP is fetched from a DNS server at a time. That's a fact of the DNS system. If IPv6 is running properly, records are priorised. That means that every client able to use IPv6 will

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-12 Thread Mouse
That's not true, a DNS answer can certainly contain multiple A and records. A single answer? It can, yes, but I think the only way to get both types in the answer section (as opposed to other sections, such as the additional section) is for the query to be for type ANY. Most software

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 12.03.13 14:11, schrieb Ask Bjørn Hansen: On Mar 12, 2013, at 12:59, Brian Rak b...@constant.com wrote: I'd have to agree as well. Enabling IPv6 on all the pool hostnames is probably a safe thing to do at this point. In most countries the service will be much worse; there are just not

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-12 Thread Hal Murray
mar...@v.loewis.de said: OTTH, there is also a less-real chance that someone is negatively affected by the status quo - if they have an IPv6-only node, they would only get one time server configured, even though three different servers would be readily available. That should get fixed when

Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers

2013-03-12 Thread Markku Miettinen
, there are similar things happening in the IPv4 all the time and there is no special buzz about it anywhere. -- Markku Miettinen From: Ask Bjørn Hansen Sent: ‎March‎ ‎13‎, ‎2013 ‎1‎:‎12‎ ‎AM To: Darryl Ross CC: pool@lists.ntp.org Subject: Re: [Pool] Getting close to 1000 IPv6 servers On Mar 12, 2013