Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

2019-07-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:39:53AM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: > + "skippable frames", the signature could probably live here As long as the logic is simple enough, because code for grabbing those frames must be rewritten for signify and be trusted.

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

2019-07-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 08:04:23PM +0300, Leonid Bobrov wrote: > Stuart and Espie, have you ever heard of compression? once I ran out of space on the 80MB drive my BBS was running on so I went through the whole download area, compressing everything with arj/lha/zip using various flags (sometimes "

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

2019-07-10 Thread Janne Johansson
Den ons 10 juli 2019 kl 03:54 skrev Kaashif Hymabaccus < kaas...@kaashif.co.uk>: > > On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 12:12:49PM -, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > [...] > > > > But done on a port-by-port opt-in basis for more important ports > > (major libraries, for example) it might be viable. I think it

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

2019-07-09 Thread Kaashif Hymabaccus
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 12:12:49PM -, Stuart Henderson wrote: > [...] > > But done on a port-by-port opt-in basis for more important ports > (major libraries, for example) it might be viable. I think it would > need to use detached symbols in a subpackage - build with symbols, > then postproces

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

2019-07-09 Thread Chris Humphries
Marc and Stuart (and whoever else was involved), thanks for the work done on this stuff. It is simple and clean for me as a user and I have trust in the integrity of what I'm receiving. I don't take it for granted. And there's probably a ton more involved that I'm not aware of yet, but I trust in

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

2019-07-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 08:04:23PM +0300, Leonid Bobrov wrote: > > An all-arches package snapshot currently runs at 200GB and adding > > symbols across the board would add a lot to this. > > Stuart and Espie, have you ever heard of compression? WTF is wrong with you ? I haven't participated to t

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

2019-07-09 Thread chohag
Perhaps rather than whining that OpenBSD lacks some specific feature, those who want it could write it? A novel idea, I know, but it IS specifically a development platform and there are precisely zero restrictions. Or if you don't wish to start with code, at least try a tack such as "I intend t

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

2019-07-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
Please leave the list. Leonid Bobrov wrote: > > It is definately not a friendly place for people with a tone like yours. > > Theo, your excuse that OpenBSD is not more popular than Linux because AT&T > sued BSD in 90's is ridiculous, that's your own fault for being so > terrible in technical

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

2019-07-09 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 1:13 PM Leonid Bobrov wrote: > Theo, your excuse that OpenBSD is not more popular than Linux because AT&T > sued BSD in 90's is ridiculous, Nah, it's a relevant issue. That said, it's not the only issue, which I imagine was the point you were trying to get across. -- Rau

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

2019-07-09 Thread Leonid Bobrov
> It is definately not a friendly place for people with a tone like yours. Theo, your excuse that OpenBSD is not more popular than Linux because AT&T sued BSD in 90's is ridiculous, that's your own fault for being so terrible in technical field, also you are terrible person, just like me you can't

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

2019-07-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
moved to ports@ On 2019-07-09, STeve Andre' wrote: > > > On 7/8/19 10:57 PM, mazoc...@disroot.org wrote: >> Hi! >> >> We all know that bugs don't get fixed without backtraces. >> >> After few years of using OpenBSD I am annoyed to get mocked for not >> sending backtraces, but why I don't send t

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

2019-07-08 Thread Theo de Raadt
mazoc...@disroot.org wrote: > Hi! > > We all know that bugs don't get fixed without backtraces. > > After few years of using OpenBSD I am annoyed to get mocked for not > sending backtraces, but why I don't send them? The answer is: OpenBSD > doesn't provide software packages with debugging symbo

When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

2019-07-08 Thread mazocomp
Hi! We all know that bugs don't get fixed without backtraces. After few years of using OpenBSD I am annoyed to get mocked for not sending backtraces, but why I don't send them? The answer is: OpenBSD doesn't provide software packages with debugging symbols. Do I look like a Gentoo user? It's not