Re: Spending time for macppc - taken from [Re: lang/gcc on macppc]

2016-02-04 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
> My opinion is that there are so many things that can be improved in
> OpenBSD that I now prefer to spend my time in something else.

Ok.

> Well first thing to do is to try to use a macppc as desktop.  Then
> figure out what's missing/not working then find the bugs and fix them.

That was my idea. As it depends on the defination - what a desktop is,
also the help of other macppc users is needed.

> It's an insane amount of work since freesotfware application are no
> longer tested on bigendian and/or powerpc machines.

Then we should change that - as long as OpenBSD/macppc is alive.




Re: Spending time for macppc - taken from [Re: lang/gcc on macppc]

2016-02-04 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
> There's effectively no one making new PowerPC hardware and the
> existing stuff is aging. Apple certainly isn't, and our port is
> Mac-specific.

Yes, true. There are many people who reads the macppc mailing list so,
there are people out there who use the machines. It would be sad if
people kickout good old working things which they payed many years ago
for a high amount. And there is also good used hardware out there.

>> If I am interested spending time, could I get some help (specially
>> as
>> if I decided to learn coding)?
>
> With the PowerPC part, yeah, but you'll have to learn to code on your
> own.

That is clear. My point is, that it is also sad if the platform dies
(I know, the time when it will be end of life will come). I have no
plans to become a professional coder. Just what you read often, work
on what annoys you. As I wrote at misc@ I have no problem to admit,
that I don't know many things but I am willing to learn - that needs
(often many) help.

> Do you have macppc hardware?

A PowerMac G5 should be on the way to me. I also have a look at other
nice machines.




Re: Spending time for macppc - taken from [Re: lang/gcc on macppc]

2016-02-04 Thread Michael McConville
Christoph R. Murauer wrote:
> > macppc is starting to be unusable as desktop because nobody
> > is spending time to ensure the ports build and run correctly.
> >
> 
> Seriously asked, what is the reason, that noone spent time?

There's effectively no one making new PowerPC hardware and the existing
stuff is aging. Apple certainly isn't, and our port is Mac-specific.

> If I am interested spending time, could I get some help (specially as
> if I decided to learn coding)?

With the PowerPC part, yeah, but you'll have to learn to code on your
own.

Do you have macppc hardware?



Re: Spending time for macppc - taken from [Re: lang/gcc on macppc]

2016-02-04 Thread Martin Pieuchot
On 04/02/16(Thu) 18:57, Christoph R. Murauer wrote:
> > macppc is starting to be unusable as desktop because nobody
> > is spending time to ensure the ports build and run correctly.
> >
> 
> Seriously asked, what is the reason, that noone spent time ?

My opinion is that there are so many things that can be improved in
OpenBSD that I now prefer to spend my time in something else. 

> If I am interested spending time, could I get some help (specially as
> if I decided to learn coding) ?

Well first thing to do is to try to use a macppc as desktop.  Then
figure out what's missing/not working then find the bugs and fix them.
It's an insane amount of work since freesotfware application are no
longer tested on bigendian and/or powerpc machines.