Re: Alert of unusually large queue

2012-10-21 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 20.10.2012 22:08, schrieb Jan P. Kessler: Hey guys, if [ `$mailq_count` -gt 50 ]; then echo Mail count on Server is `$mailq_count`|/usr/sbin/sendmail -f r...@example.com repo...@example.com ; fi I'm not sure, if sending an e-mail about a full mailqueue-condition is the best way to

Re: The ultimate email server

2012-10-21 Thread Mike's unattended mail
On 2012-10-20, The Stovebolt Geek g...@stovebolt.com wrote: But then I've never been one to rigidly demand that everyone else comply with my concept of what is right. Then this means you are not using a DNSBL as a block list - which indeed promotes a live and let live approach. It is

Re: The ultimate email server

2012-10-21 Thread Mike's unattended mail
On 2012-10-20, peter evans pe...@ixp.jp wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 01:14:19PM +, Mike's unattended mail wrote: From: Mike's unattended mail mike.thomas-dlre...@cool.fr.nf I think that about says how much value your opinions have. * dnsbl If it is good enough for the

Re: The ultimate email server

2012-10-21 Thread Jim Reid
On 21 Oct 2012, at 11:05, Mike's unattended mail mike.thomas-dlre...@cool.fr.nf wrote: You're the first to post an ad hominem, without so much as even bundling it with a single logical argument. Which should have been the point where this thread immediately halted... Please take your

Re: The ultimate email server

2012-10-21 Thread Mike's unattended mail
On 2012-10-21, Jim Reid j...@rfc1035.com wrote: Please take your religious debate elsewhere as it's no longer relevant to this list. Thanks. If you perceive RFC compliance as a religious matter, please feel free to disregard this thread. Thanks. To be clear, the hot-headed remarks that

Re: postfix-user list features undocumented

2012-10-21 Thread Mike's unattended mail
On 2012-10-20, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: With mailman one can deactivate receiving mails but still be a member (during vacation for example) a proper mailserver will not respond to messages wtih a Precedence: bulk header and not respond more than once each day to the same

mike.thomas-dlre...@cool.fr.nf needs the boot

2012-10-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
He's made 6 posts since joining less than 24 hours ago. All have been 100% off topic, argumentative and/or preachy. It is clear he didn't join this list to receive help with Postfix, or to help others with Postfix. He should take the opportunity to remove himself before Wietse performs this

Re: The ultimate email server

2012-10-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.10.2012 13:22, schrieb Mike's unattended mail: The logical debate to this point have not favored proponents of the two crude and sloppy techniques that I mentioned. But, I'm open for good rationale; both for my benefit and the OPs. what is so difficult to undestand? if you are

Re: postfix-user list features undocumented

2012-10-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.10.2012 13:28, schrieb Mike's unattended mail: On 2012-10-20, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: With mailman one can deactivate receiving mails but still be a member (during vacation for example) a proper mailserver will not respond to messages wtih a Precedence: bulk

Re: The ultimate email server

2012-10-21 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:05:24 + (UTC) Mike's unattended mail articulated: Your whitehouse remark is an illogical appeal to authority. You're actually the only one to have a post that's unworthy of response. And yet you did ... -- Jerry ✌ postfix-u...@seibercom.net

Stop The Troll

2012-10-21 Thread Wietse Venema
Obviously, some people don't notice the troll alert signs. Ignore this person.

Re: The ultimate email server

2012-10-21 Thread Mark Goodge
On 20/10/2012 18:27, Mike's unattended mail wrote: On 2012-10-20, Jeroen Geilman jer...@adaptr.nl wrote: DNSBLs are recommended by just about everyone who is serious about email, There are a couple ways to use DNSBLs. There are those who are serious but either incompetent or on a

Re: The ultimate email server

2012-10-21 Thread Mike's unattended mail
On 2012-10-21, Mark Goodge m...@good-stuff.co.uk wrote: No, it isn't right to deliver spam. Spam should be rejected, because if it isn't then the sending server has no incentive to clean up its act. How does a rejection create incentive for a spam-sending server to clean up? If this is a

Re: The ultimate email server

2012-10-21 Thread Mark Goodge
On 21/10/2012 15:21, Mike's unattended mail wrote: On 2012-10-21, Mark Goodge m...@good-stuff.co.uk wrote: And, even if it isn't spam, it is a near-100% indicator of incompetance on the part of the sending system's administrator. How do you think a competent sys admin sets the EHLO under the

Re: postfix-user list features undocumented

2012-10-21 Thread Mike's unattended mail
On 2012-10-21, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: so write a SIMPLE sieve-rule to discard the messages from the list on your server if you only use gmane - what exactly is your problem? That's a hack. It's reasonable, but not as favorable as not having the traffic in the first place.

Re: The ultimate email server

2012-10-21 Thread Erwan David
On 21/10/12 16:29, Mark Goodge wrote: On 21/10/2012 15:21, Mike's unattended mail wrote: On 2012-10-21, Mark Goodge m...@good-stuff.co.uk wrote: And, even if it isn't spam, it is a near-100% indicator of incompetance on the part of the sending system's administrator. How do you think a

Re: The ultimate email server

2012-10-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.10.2012 16:21, schrieb Mike's unattended mail: The RFC certainly does not insist that senders buy a domain name. Who said anything about buying a domain name? Any server connected to the Internet can have a host name, If you use the FQDN format for the EHLO, it cannot be just any

Re: The ultimate email server

2012-10-21 Thread The Stovebolt Geek
--On October 21, 2012 9:53:49 AM + Mike's unattended mail mike.thomas-dlre...@cool.fr.nf wrote: On 2012-10-20, The Stovebolt Geek g...@stovebolt.com wrote: But then I've never been one to rigidly demand that everyone else comply with my concept of what is right. Then this means you are

reject_non_fqdn_helo_hostname (was: The ultimate email server)

2012-10-21 Thread /dev/rob0
Off-topic portions removed. Ditto Stan's comment: this thread needs to come to an end. I already responded to the off-topic assertions back in September, suggesting that it move to SDLU. I saw some silliness in this thread, but I am refusing to be dragged into it.[1] On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at

Re: postfix SMTP AUTH

2012-10-21 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
William, * William Holt holt.william.aa...@gmail.com: hi, new to the forum. I'm running arch and have postfix/cyrus. I can telnet to the smtp daemon, smtp is running and acceptd connection: please post output from saslfinger as requested by http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html#mail. It

Re: postfix SMTP AUTH

2012-10-21 Thread /dev/rob0
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 03:51:13PM -0400, William Holt wrote: hi, new to the forum. I'm running arch and have postfix/cyrus. Generally I recommend Dovecot for SASL and IMAP. I can telnet to the smtp daemon, smtp is running and acceptd connection: -telnet #.#.#.# 25--