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Am 20.09.2013 21:42, schrieb azurIt:
Am 20.09.2013 19:31, schrieb azurIt:
I don't believe in rejecting e-mails based on spam checks - there are and
always be false positives. I will rather accept 100 spams than reject
single legitimate e-mail message.
ok ,so why cry about your own
The way I read his request is that he wants to forward non-spam
only, and is looking for a Postfix solution that supports this.
The best proposal I can come up with is a Milter that triggers on
headers added by has spam filter, and that adds a second
recipient only if the mail does not
On Sep 21, 2013, at 14:53, Jan P. Kessler post...@jpkessler.info wrote:
The way I read his request is that he wants to forward non-spam
only, and is looking for a Postfix solution that supports this.
The best proposal I can come up with is a Milter that triggers on
headers added by has spam
Would the single, existing instance with 'smtp_header_checks' not
achieve the same thing?
http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtp_header_checks
Not, if the required headers are added later on by a content_filter.
Am 21.09.2013 15:17, schrieb Jan P. Kessler:
Would the single, existing instance with 'smtp_header_checks' not
achieve the same thing?
http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtp_header_checks
Not, if the required headers are added later on by a content_filter.
Just to be clear. What I
On Sep 21, 2013, at 15:17, Jan P. Kessler post...@jpkessler.info wrote:
Would the single, existing instance with 'smtp_header_checks' not
achieve the same thing?
http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtp_header_checks
Not, if the required headers are added later on by a content_filter.
As I read it, 'smtp_header_checks' provides a way to do header checks only on
messages that are leaving the system, leaving local delivery unaffected?
You are right. It should achieve the same.
On Sep 21, 2013, at 15:24, Jan P. Kessler post...@jpkessler.info wrote:
Am 21.09.2013 15:17, schrieb Jan P. Kessler:
Would the single, existing instance with 'smtp_header_checks' not
achieve the same thing?
http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtp_header_checks
Not, if the required
As I read it, 'smtp_header_checks' provides a way to do header
checks only on messages that are leaving the system, leaving local
delivery unaffected?
The SMTP client cannot add or remove recipients. The decision to
forward mail needs to be made before the queue manager.
Therefore,
Hi,
i'm having problems with spam forwarding - lot's of our users enabled
forwarding to gmail and every spam they receive is also forwarded. Today gmail
block us because of spam (which we were just forwarding, not sending). Any tips
how can i disable forwarding in case of a spam (for example,
Am 20.09.2013 16:42, schrieb azurIt:
Hi,
i'm having problems with spam forwarding - lot's of our users enabled
forwarding to gmail and every spam they receive is also forwarded. Today
gmail block us because of spam (which we were just forwarding, not sending).
Any tips how can i disable
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:42 AM, azurIt azu...@pobox.sk wrote:
Hi,
i'm having problems with spam forwarding - lot's of our users enabled
forwarding to gmail and every spam they receive is also forwarded. Today
gmail block us because of spam (which we were just forwarding, not
sending). Any
Am 20.09.2013 19:31, schrieb azurIt:
I don't believe in rejecting e-mails based on spam checks - there are and
always be false positives. I will rather accept 100 spams than reject single
legitimate e-mail message.
ok ,so why cry about your own decisions ?
Best Regards
MfG Robert
azurIt wrote:
I don't believe in rejecting e-mails based on spam checks - there are and
always be false positives. I will rather accept 100 spams than reject single
legitimate e-mail message.
Spam volume these days is such that accepting, processing, and storing
**all** mail is becoming
Am 20.09.2013 18:12, schrieb azurIt:
Blocking emails based on spam filters are always wrong. Spam recognition will
NEVER be 100%, there are always false positives. We are accepting all emails
and filter them after. I just need to tell Postfix to NOT forward particular
messages and only
On Sep 20, 2013, at 18:21, azurIt azu...@pobox.sk wrote:
CC: postfix-users@postfix.org
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:42 AM, azurIt azu...@pobox.sk wrote:
Hi,
i'm having problems with spam forwarding - lot's of our users enabled
forwarding to gmail and every spam they receive is also
On Sep 20, 2013, at 18:12, azurIt azu...@pobox.sk wrote:
On 2013-09-20 09:42, azurIt wrote:
i'm having problems with spam forwarding - lot's of our users enabled
forwarding to gmail and every spam they receive is also forwarded.
Today gmail block us because of spam (which we were just
On 2013-09-20 09:42, azurIt wrote:
i'm having problems with spam forwarding - lot's of our users enabled
forwarding to gmail and every spam they receive is also forwarded.
Today gmail block us because of spam (which we were just forwarding,
not sending). Any tips how can i disable forwarding
CC: postfix-users@postfix.org
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:42 AM, azurIt azu...@pobox.sk wrote:
Hi,
i'm having problems with spam forwarding - lot's of our users enabled
forwarding to gmail and every spam they receive is also forwarded. Today
gmail block us because of spam (which we were just
Am 20.09.2013 18:12, schrieb azurIt:
Blocking emails based on spam filters are always wrong
says who?
Spam recognition will NEVER be 100%
nothing will 100%, nowehere
there are always false positives
yes, and there are some 100 times more spam
We are accepting all emails and filter them
Am 20.09.2013 19:31, schrieb azurIt:
I don't believe in rejecting e-mails based on spam checks - there are and
always be false positives. I will rather accept 100 spams than reject single
legitimate e-mail message.
ok ,so why cry about your own decisions ?
Where exacly i was 'crying'? I
azurIt wrote:
I don't believe in rejecting e-mails based on spam checks - there are and
always be false positives. I will rather accept 100 spams than reject single
legitimate e-mail message.
Spam volume these days is such that accepting, processing, and storing
**all** mail is becoming
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:03:32PM +0200, azurIt wrote:
On 2013-09-20 09:42, azurIt wrote:
i'm having problems with spam forwarding - lot's of our users
enabled forwarding to gmail and every spam they receive is
also forwarded. Today gmail block us because of spam (which we
were just
On 2013-09-20 09:42, azurIt wrote:
i'm having problems with spam forwarding - lot's of our users enabled
forwarding to gmail and every spam they receive is also forwarded.
Today gmail block us because of spam (which we were just forwarding,
not sending). Any tips how can i disable forwarding in
/dev/rob0:
No, I have not noticed that. Neither have you! You have noticed, at
the top of this thread, that gmail is rejecting you!
The way I read his request is that he wants to forward non-spam
only, and is looking for a Postfix solution that supports this.
The best proposal I can come up
Am 20.09.2013 22:10, schrieb azurIt:
Am 20.09.2013 22:03, schrieb azurIt:
One note to all fans of 'spam filters rejecting' here: Did you even notice
that
NO ONE of big e-mail providers are rejecting messages based on standard
spam filter techniques?
Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, ATT, ... No
CC: postfix-users@postfix.org
azurIt:
I was just friendly ASKING, if Postfix is able to _not_ forward a
message based on it's headers.
Assumung that these headers are added by a spam filter, this would
require a Milter plugin that examines messages after your spam
filter, and that dynamically
Am 20.09.2013 22:03, schrieb azurIt:
One note to all fans of 'spam filters rejecting' here: Did you even notice
that
NO ONE of big e-mail providers are rejecting messages based on standard spam
filter techniques?
Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, ATT, ... No one is doing it, most of them have
On 2013-09-20 1:31 PM, azurIt azu...@pobox.sk wrote:
I don't believe in rejecting e-mails based on spam checks
Then don't allow blanket forwarders, or just accept it when someone
blocks you for good cause because of your silly decisions.
- there are and always be false positives.
For
azurIt:
I was just friendly ASKING, if Postfix is able to _not_ forward a
message based on it's headers.
Assumung that these headers are added by a spam filter, this would
require a Milter plugin that examines messages after your spam
filter, and that dynamically adds a forwarding address to
On 2013-09-20 09:42, azurIt wrote:
i'm having problems with spam forwarding - lot's of our users enabled
forwarding to gmail and every spam they receive is also forwarded.
Today gmail block us because of spam (which we were just forwarding,
not sending). Any tips how can i disable forwarding
On Sep 20, 2013, at 18:21, azurIt azu...@pobox.sk wrote:
CC: postfix-users@postfix.org
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:42 AM, azurIt azu...@pobox.sk wrote:
Hi,
i'm having problems with spam forwarding - lot's of our users enabled
forwarding to gmail and every spam they receive is also
Am 20.09.2013 22:03, schrieb azurIt:
One note to all fans of 'spam filters rejecting' here: Did you even notice
that
NO ONE of big e-mail providers are rejecting messages based on standard spam
filter techniques?
Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, ATT, ... No one is doing it, most of them have
Hello Azur,
On 9/20/2013 12:45 PM, DTNX Postmaster wrote:
Has it occurred to you that the reason lots of your users enable
forwarding to Gmail may be the fact that you accept everything? And
that they are essentially using Gmail as the spam filter they need
because of this?
Joni makes a
On Sep 20, 2013, at 22:03, azurIt azu...@pobox.sk wrote:
You are creating this problem yourself. No spam filtering is 100%
without false positives, but properly configured before-queue defenses
generally cut out ~90% of the garbage you get from bots and zombies. Or
more, depending on how
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