Re: executive parser (was: Re: spf configuration woes)

2011-11-06 Thread David Southwell
Subject: Re: executive parser (was: Re: spf configuration woes) Just to add weight to my last posting - the use of a as a critical symbol is really quite idiotic. What cannot be seen should never be that significant! The current RFC defining email message format is RFC5322

Re: executive parser

2011-11-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.11.2011 10:22, schrieb David Southwell: Hence thoughtful engineers incorporate diagnostic parsers and html configuration tools. IMHO postfix has been very slow to develop an apporocah which places the needs of system administrators in the forefront of its development strategy. what

Re: executive parser

2011-11-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.11.2011 10:22, schrieb David Southwell: IMHO Postfix needs to add to its goals a determination to make configuration a breeze rather than a challenge. That means diagnostic and corrective parsers and or an html based configuration interface. so and now i will tell you that i have

Re: executive parser

2011-11-06 Thread David Southwell
On Sunday 06 November 2011 02:29:30 Reindl Harald wrote: Am 06.11.2011 10:22, schrieb David Southwell: IMHO Postfix needs to add to its goals a determination to make configuration a breeze rather than a challenge. That means diagnostic and corrective parsers and or an html based

Re: executive parser

2011-11-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.11.2011 10:39, schrieb David Southwell: Agreed. It is possible to comprehend postfix's documentation given plenty of time to concemntrate upon it. Unfortunately most administrators cannot give that degree of attention to every piece of software. than they are doing the wrong job!

Re: executive parser (was: Re: spf configuration woes)

2011-11-06 Thread Simon Brereton
, November 05, 2011 9:41 AM To: postfix-users@postfix.org Cc: /dev/rob0 Subject: Re: executive parser (was: Re: spf configuration woes) Just to add weight to my last posting - the use of a as a critical symbol is really quite idiotic. What cannot be seen should never be that significant

executive parser (was: Re: spf configuration woes)

2011-11-05 Thread /dev/rob0
human beings. Postfix has such a parser - which is why the documentation points out that lines should not start with a white-space. snip You are failing to distinguish between a diagnostic parser and an executive parser. An executive parser rejects incorrectly configured lines at runtime

Re: executive parser (was: Re: spf configuration woes)

2011-11-05 Thread David Southwell
parser. An executive parser rejects incorrectly configured lines at runtime. A diagnostic parser would tell you that there is an excess space at a specific location. A really good executive parser would also log the location of incorrectly configured lines to facilitate the work

Re: executive parser (was: Re: spf configuration woes)

2011-11-05 Thread David Southwell
Just to add weight to my last posting - the use of a as a critical symbol is really quite idiotic. What cannot be seen should never be that significant!

Re: executive parser

2011-11-05 Thread Daniele Nicolodi
On 05/11/11 17:40, David Southwell wrote: Just to add weight to my last posting - the use of a as a critical symbol is really quite idiotic. What cannot be seen should never be that significant! Telling people, member of an affirmed community, that what they are currently doing is idiotic,

Re: executive parser

2011-11-05 Thread Daniele Nicolodi
On 05/11/11 17:30, David Southwell wrote: The problem you identify in subsequent lines, has its roots in postfix's rather primitive formatting structure. If it were replace by something like: {submission (variant,modifier [connector] data ) (variant = data) (variant =

Re: executive parser

2011-11-05 Thread Richard Damon
On 11/5/11 12:40 PM, David Southwell wrote: Just to add weight to my last posting - the use of a as a critical symbol is really quite idiotic. What cannot be seen should never be that significant! Since it is an integral part of the Mail Format RFC (RFC 2822) as the way to indicate that

RE: executive parser (was: Re: spf configuration woes)

2011-11-05 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
-Original Message- From: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org [mailto:owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] On Behalf Of David Southwell Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 9:41 AM To: postfix-users@postfix.org Cc: /dev/rob0 Subject: Re: executive parser (was: Re: spf configuration woes