Postfix queue on ramdisk: Insufficient system storage

2010-07-21 Thread Ram
One server of ours just accepts the mails from clients and then relays the mails to other servers. Since there is almost no mail queued on the server , I think it is will be good to mount /var/spool/postfix on a tmpfs partition. The machine ( linux Centos 5.4 + postfix 2.7 ) has enough Memory

What is the proper way to deal with non-existing e-mail addresses?

2010-07-21 Thread Aniruddha
When somebody emails to a non-existing e-mail address postfix bounces these by default with a Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient error. I wonder what the appropriate behavior is. To discard emails for unknow, users, forward them to another address or bounce them? What

Re: What is the proper way to deal with non-existing e-mail addresses?

2010-07-21 Thread Ansgar Wiechers
On 2010-07-21 Aniruddha wrote: When somebody emails to a non-existing e-mail address postfix bounces these by default with a Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient error. No. Postfix REJECTS them with a User unknown in local recipient table error. Rejection takes place

Re: What is the proper way to deal with non-existing e-mail addresses?

2010-07-21 Thread Ram
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 08:47 +0200, Aniruddha wrote: When somebody emails to a non-existing e-mail address postfix bounces these by default with a Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient error. I wonder what the appropriate behavior is. To discard emails for unknow, users,

Is such an SSL attack possible against Postfix?

2010-07-21 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
http://blog.fefe.de/?ts=b2b8f9f8 sorry, it's in german. I'll translate some bits: Sombody went to Torrent trackers and announced blog.fefe.de:443 as Torrent client (for a really popular download I guess). Thus, blog.fefe.de:443 got flooded with torrent-client traffic on the SSL port. Port 25

RE: Is such an SSL attack possible against Postfix?

2010-07-21 Thread Jonathan Tripathy
Port 25 outgoing will be blocked by most ISPs --- This may be the case in your country, but from where I'm from, I've never had a problem sending out on port 25, even on home

RE: Is such an SSL attack possible against Postfix?

2010-07-21 Thread Gordan Bobic
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 10:02 +0100, Jonathan Tripathy wrote: Port 25 outgoing will be blocked by most ISPs -- This may be the case in your country, but from where I'm from, I've never had a problem sending out on port 25, even

Re: Postfix queue on ramdisk: Insufficient system storage

2010-07-21 Thread Wietse Venema
Ram: One server of ours just accepts the mails from clients and then relays the mails to other servers. Since there is almost no mail queued on the server , I think it is will be good to mount /var/spool/postfix on a tmpfs partition. The machine ( linux Centos 5.4 + postfix 2.7 ) has

Re: Is such an SSL attack possible against Postfix?

2010-07-21 Thread Charles Marcus
Jonathan Tripathy wrote: Port 25 outgoing will be blocked by most ISPs This may be the case in your country, but from where I'm from, I've never had a problem sending out on port 25, even on home residental ISPs :) Any ISP that does *not* block port 25 for residential service is a part of

Re: Is such an SSL attack possible against Postfix?

2010-07-21 Thread Daniel V. Reinhardt
- Original Message From: Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de To: postfix-users@postfix.org Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 5:00:16 AM Subject: Is such an SSL attack possible against Postfix? http://blog.fefe.de/?ts=b2b8f9f8 sorry, it's in german. I'll translate some bits:

RE: Is such an SSL attack possible against Postfix?

2010-07-21 Thread Jonathan Tripathy
Jonathan Tripathy wrote: Port 25 outgoing will be blocked by most ISPs This may be the case in your country, but from where I'm from, I've never had a problem sending out on port 25, even on home residental ISPs :) Any ISP that does *not* block port 25 for residential service is a part of

Re: Is such an SSL attack possible against Postfix?

2010-07-21 Thread Ansgar Wiechers
On 2010-07-21 Daniel V. Reinhardt wrote: From: Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de To: postfix-users@postfix.org Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 5:00:16 AM Subject: Is such an SSL attack possible against Postfix? http://blog.fefe.de/?ts=b2b8f9f8 sorry, it's in german. I'll translate

Info about another listening port on Postfix 2.3.3

2010-07-21 Thread Stefano Villa
Hi to all! I've a configuration file like this: smtp inet n - n - - smtpd -o content_filter=dfilt: and I have to *add* another listening port (TCP 37025). The line -o content_filter=dfilt: has the purpose to add a disclaimer to all my outgoing emails. If

Re: Info about another listening port on Postfix 2.3.3

2010-07-21 Thread Matt Hayes
On 7/21/2010 9:06 AM, Stefano Villa wrote: Hi to all! I've a configuration file like this: smtp inet n - n - - smtpd -o content_filter=dfilt: and I have to *add* another listening port (TCP 37025). The line -o content_filter=dfilt: has the purpose

Re: Is such an SSL attack possible against Postfix?

2010-07-21 Thread Wietse Venema
Ralf Hildebrandt: * Ansgar Wiechers li...@planetcobalt.net: The issue with this attack is that it might exhaust CPU resources on the server without having to saturate the bandwidth, due to cryptographic operations required by SSL. Correct. And that it seems to use BitTorrent as a

Re: Is such an SSL attack possible against Postfix?

2010-07-21 Thread Charles Marcus
Jonathan Tripathy wrote: Any ISP that does *not* block port 25 for residential service is a part of the spam/zombie problem, and if yours doesn't, you should complain, loudly if necessary, and encourage them to block it. Every ISP in the UK? Every one that is not, at a bare minimum, closely

Re: Best Practise

2010-07-21 Thread Randy Ramsdell
mouss wrote: Simone Caruso a écrit : Il 19/07/2010 22:04, Jonathan Tripathy ha scritto: On 19/07/10 18:07, Angelo Amoruso wrote: On 16/07/2010 10.10, Jonathan Tripathy wrote: Hi Everyone, I have set up a mail server (on a VM) as per this article:

RE: Is such an SSL attack possible against Postfix?

2010-07-21 Thread Jonathan Tripathy
I beg to disagree. Blocking port 25 is a violation of Net Neutrality. Ridiculous, net neutrality has nothing to do with service level agreements. Residential service does not in any way, shape or form equate to requiring full SMTP services to be able to run your own full blown mail server, nor

OT: ISP Blocking of port 25 - WAS: Re: Is such an SSL attack possible against Postfix?

2010-07-21 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-07-21 11:16 AM, Gordan Bobic gor...@bobich.net wrote: If you want that level of service, upgrade to a service that provides it, and that will be at least minimally monitored for abuse (it is in the ISPs best interest to avoid getting their IP addresses on blacklists). Absolute

Re: Postfix queue on ramdisk: Insufficient system storage

2010-07-21 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 06:39:07AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: One server of ours just accepts the mails from clients and then relays the mails to other servers. Since there is almost no mail queued on the server , I think it is will be good to mount /var/spool/postfix on a tmpfs

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Ansgar Wiechers
On 2010-07-21 Charles Marcus wrote: [ lots of words ] Charles, any ISP who restricts network traffic (with or without packet inspection) is clearly violating net neutrality. Period. I suggest you look up the term. There may be valid reasons for an ISP to do this, but that doesn't change one

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Charles Marcus
Ansgar Wiechers wrote: Charles, any ISP who restricts network traffic (with or without packet inspection) is clearly violating net neutrality. Period. I suggest you look up the term. 1. Net neutrality is simply a 'proposed' priniciple, its meaning is not set in stone, and probably never will

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Charles Marcus
Crap - sorry, meant that to go private...

Re: postfix/local segfaults

2010-07-21 Thread Kai Krakow
Mystery solved: Adding -O2 to CFLAGS (an -Ox parameter was missing) solved the problem. Seems to be an GCC issue. I don't know if postfix should compile and work fine without this or with another optimizer level. If someone wants to debug this further: The pointer to the problem is within

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Daniel V. Reinhardt
- Original Message From: Ansgar Wiechers li...@planetcobalt.net To: postfix-users@postfix.org Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 12:51:34 PM Subject: Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25 On 2010-07-21 Charles Marcus wrote: [ lots of words ] Charles, any ISP who restricts network traffic

Re: postfix/local segfaults

2010-07-21 Thread Wietse Venema
Kai Krakow: Mystery solved: Adding -O2 to CFLAGS (an -Ox parameter was missing) solved the problem. Seems to be an GCC issue. I don't know if postfix should compile and work fine without this or with another optimizer level. It *should* work with all optimization levels. except for: - Bugs

Re: Postfix queue on ramdisk: Insufficient system storage

2010-07-21 Thread Wietse Venema
Ram: One server of ours just accepts the mails from clients and then relays the mails to other servers. Since there is almost no mail queued on the server , I think it is will be good to mount /var/spool/postfix on a tmpfs partition. You will lose all mail in the queue when the system

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Jonathan Tripathy
On 21/07/10 20:06, Daniel V. Reinhardt wrote: - Original Message From: Ansgar Wiechersli...@planetcobalt.net To: postfix-users@postfix.org Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 12:51:34 PM Subject: Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25 On 2010-07-21 Charles Marcus wrote: [ lots of words ]

Re: postfix/local segfaults

2010-07-21 Thread Kai Krakow
2010/7/21 Wietse Venema wie...@porcupine.org: That would be a compiler bug, possibly compiler version dependent. Yep, I'm sure it is. The postfix ebuild from gentoo contains some evidence that hardened gcc 3.4 may be problematic. In case you are interested, follow up bug report:

re: (graylisting) better spam filter for postfix

2010-07-21 Thread Josh Cason
I treid grey listng and don't use it because too many servers were not re-sending the e-mail back asap. Alot did and there was no problem. But some took up to a day to retry the message. I remeber reading about DPSAM. Also going to look at amavisd-new and assp. I like the idea of calling it a

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Daniel V. Reinhardt
- Original Message From: Jonathan Tripathy jon...@abpni.co.uk To: postfix users postfix-users@postfix.org Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 8:23:31 PM Subject: Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25 On 21/07/10 20:06, Daniel V. Reinhardt wrote: - Original Message

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Ansgar Wiechers
On 2010-07-21 Daniel V. Reinhardt wrote: ISP's should be made responsible and accountable for what their users do. No, they shouldn't. They hold the rights to the IP Space in use at the time, and such any traffic that goes over it should be logged for later analysis by authorities if a user

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Rod Dorman
On Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 16:36:08, Daniel V. Reinhardt wrote: ... ISP's should be made responsible and accountable for what their users do. They hold the rights to the IP Space in use at the time, and such any traffic that goes over it should be logged for later analysis by authorities

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Rod Dorman r...@polylogics.com: Have we gone far enough off the topic of Postfix yet for this thread to be declared dead? Yes, especially since this was about SSL attacks. -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus

Re: postfix/local segfaults

2010-07-21 Thread Bas Mevissen
On 07/21/2010 10:23 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: 2010/7/21 Wietse Venema wie...@porcupine.org: That would be a compiler bug, possibly compiler version dependent. Yep, I'm sure it is. The postfix ebuild from gentoo contains some evidence that hardened gcc 3.4 may be problematic. In case you are

Re: Best Practise

2010-07-21 Thread mouss
Randy Ramsdell a écrit : mouss wrote: Simone Caruso a écrit : Il 19/07/2010 22:04, Jonathan Tripathy ha scritto: On 19/07/10 18:07, Angelo Amoruso wrote: On 16/07/2010 10.10, Jonathan Tripathy wrote: Hi Everyone, I have set up a mail server (on a VM) as per this

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Xavier Gillard
Le Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:36:08 -0700 (PDT), Daniel V. Reinhardt crypto...@yahoo.com a écrit : Only http and https and submission would be allowed. To help conserve the cost of bandwidth and to make more bandwidth available to people who want more. You are driving consumers to that kind of

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Charles Marcus
I tried, I really did, but I just have to respond to this... Jonathan Tripathy wrote: an ISP should *never* monitor for abuse in the EU, and should *never* be made liable for what their customers do. Correct - they should only be liable for abuse that they allow *their* networks to relay from

Re: postfix/local segfaults

2010-07-21 Thread Steve
Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:23:06 +0200 Von: Kai Krakow hurikhan77+post...@googlemail.com An: Postfix users postfix-users@postfix.org Betreff: Re: postfix/local segfaults 2010/7/21 Wietse Venema wie...@porcupine.org: That would be a compiler bug,

Re: Postfix queue on ramdisk: Insufficient system storage

2010-07-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Wietse Venema put forth on 7/21/2010 2:22 PM: Ram: One server of ours just accepts the mails from clients and then relays the mails to other servers. Since there is almost no mail queued on the server , I think it is will be good to mount /var/spool/postfix on a tmpfs partition. You will

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Jonathan Tripathy
Why should home users get business class services at a fraction of the cost? It is quite ignorant to think that. Allowing legal data to pass without being monitored, snooped upon, or blocked due to the type of traffic, is not just for business class services. Are you upset that you live in

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Gordan Bobic
Daniel V. Reinhardt wrote: ISP's should be made responsible and accountable for what their users do. They hold the rights to the IP Space in use at the time, and such any traffic that goes over it should be logged for later analysis by authorities if a user is found to be doing something

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Gordan Bobic
Charles Marcus wrote: As I mentioned before, if they really feel that blocking port 25 blocks spam, You aren't serious? It isn't a matter of 'feeling'. Blocking port 25 for residential users blocks TONS of SPAMBOTNETS. This isn't theory or guesswork, it is a simple fact. It also relievs a

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Sahil Tandon
Time of death on Thu, Jul 22: 01:57:34 UTC END OF THREAD. Please? :-) -- Sahil Tandon sa...@freebsd.org

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread dennisthetiger
Jonathan Tripathy jon...@abpni.co.uk wrote: Why should home users get business class services at a fraction of the cost? It is quite ignorant to think that. Allowing legal data to pass without being monitored, snooped upon, or blocked due to the type of traffic, is not just for business

Re: Is such an SSL attack possible against Postfix?

2010-07-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Charles Marcus put forth on 7/21/2010 7:46 AM: Jonathan Tripathy wrote: Port 25 outgoing will be blocked by most ISPs This may be the case in your country, but from where I'm from, I've never had a problem sending out on port 25, even on home residental ISPs :) Any ISP that does *not*

Re: postfix/local segfaults

2010-07-21 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:16:04PM +0200, Bas Mevissen wrote: Can you try what happens if you replace at typedef struct LOCAL_STATE { int level;/* nesting level, for logging */ DELIVER_ATTR msg_attr;/* message/recipient attributes */ DELIVER_REQUEST

Re: OT: ISP Blocking of port 25

2010-07-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Daniel V. Reinhardt put forth on 7/21/2010 2:06 PM: Your average joe doesn't need to be running servers, and if you want business class services and abilities then pay for it. Class warfare and/or financial means arguments are invalid in this discussion. Bandwidth costs money. You can't