RE: postfix non-standard installation location quirks

2011-06-13 Thread Winston Smith
Please see the postfix-install(1) script, The fact that I need to peek into a script first in order to understand the underlying mechanisms lets me believe that the documentation is confusing enough to let anyone believe that install_root behaves like a PREFIX in autoconf-generated Makefiles.

Re: postfix non-standard installation location quirks

2011-06-13 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 11:22:22 +1100, Winston Smith wrote: [ rant snipped ] Suggestion: Leave the scripts as they are, just state in the documentation that main.cf will not pick up install_root as prefix, rendering it useless. Where in the documentation does it say that install_root is in

Re: postfix non-standard installation location quirks

2011-06-13 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:22:22AM +1100, Winston Smith wrote: The fact that I need to peek into a script first in order to understand the underlying mechanisms lets me believe that the documentation is confusing enough to let anyone believe that install_root behaves like a PREFIX in

RE: postfix non-standard installation location quirks

2011-06-13 Thread Winston Smith
Suggestion: Leave the scripts as they are, just state in the documentation that main.cf will not pick up install_root as prefix, rendering it useless. Where in the documentation does it say that install_root is in any way recorded in main.cf? It is reasonable to expect this. Otherwise,

[Thread closed] (was postfix non-standard installation location quirks)

2011-06-13 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:13:34PM +1100, Winston Smith wrote: Are these the Programming Middle Ages??? Trolling will not make you friends here. Configuring Postfix to live in a non-default location is done at compile-time not install-time. At install-time one gets to either install Postfix

RE: [Thread closed] (was postfix non-standard installation location quirks)

2011-06-13 Thread Winston Smith
Trolling will not make you friends here. I am not here to make friends. I am here to ask a question. And I am asking because the observed and expected behaviour differ. This should be an indicator that something needs to change. Either the documentation, or the behaviour of postfix (or the

postfix non-standard installation location quirks

2011-06-12 Thread Winston Smith
Hi all, Trying to install postfix in a non-standard location (specifically /usr/local/ instead of /), I ran into two quirks, the second one more severe than the first one: Firstly, the naming of the config variable names the user is asked when saying make install is highly confusing: First, it

Re: postfix non-standard installation location quirks

2011-06-12 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 01:46:11 +1100, Winston Smith wrote: Trying to install postfix in a non-standard location (specifically /usr/local/ instead of /), I ran into two quirks, the second one more severe than the first one: Firstly, the naming of the config variable names the user is asked

Re: postfix non-standard installation location quirks

2011-06-12 Thread Wietse Venema
Winston Smith: Hi all, Trying to install postfix in a non-standard location (specifically /usr/local/ instead of /), I ran into two quirks, the second one more severe than the first one: Please see the INSTALL document (or INSTALL.html) Wietse