Re: Visual and text languages

2011-03-11 Thread alex
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM, John Daughtry j...@daughtryhome.com wrote: What are, say, the three biggest open questions/challenges in visual languages? Is there a meta-paper that perhaps discusses VL from such a high level? On 10 March 2011 17:06, John Zabroski johnzabro...@gmail.com

Re: Visual and text languages

2011-03-10 Thread John Zabroski
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM, John Daughtry j...@daughtryhome.com wrote: There is a lot of scattered research on visual languages... some more directly studying visual languages than others. Some extant work is about visual languages when the researcher doesn't even realize it (a colleagues

Re: Visual and text languages

2011-03-10 Thread Derek M Jones
All, There is a lot of scattered research on visual languages... some more The best book I know of on visual language is: Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art by Scott Mccloud -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd

Re: Visual and text languages

2011-03-09 Thread alex
Corrections... On 9 March 2011 10:37, alex a...@slab.org wrote: Artists often say they like Max and PD because they are visual. However you can put boxes where you like, it makes no difference because visual layout in these languages is entirely secondary syntax. I meant secondary notation

Re: Visual and text languages

2011-03-09 Thread alex
On 9 March 2011 13:31, Thomas Green green...@ntlworld.com wrote: I wonder whether the way that spoken English sometimes uses pitch and stress to emphasize particular parts of an utterance (No, it's MINE!) should be seen through the same spectacles? Of course, 'real' linguists have their terms