And where do people want to put Inform 7, the interactive fiction
language that is a subset of English and has some semantic inference
built in?
http://inform7.com/
Is it a programming language? a restricted natural language? both?
neither?
Thomas
On 4 Mar 2011, at 17:17, Kari Laitinen
>> The definition of 'language' depends on who you are talking to.
I think that based on this discussion and earlier
discussions, it is not always clear what the term
"programming language" means. From the compilation
point of view the term is clear, i.e., the lexical
rules and the syntax of the
On 4/03/2011, at 12:44 AM, Derek M Jones wrote:
> Richard,
>
>> What I *don't* see here is any practical relevance to the question
>> of whether 'printf' is part of the C language or not, except for
>
> I would come back to my final sentence of my original reply:
>
> The definition of 'languag
Richard,
What I *don't* see here is any practical relevance to the question
of whether 'printf' is part of the C language or not, except for
I would come back to my final sentence of my original reply:
The definition of 'language' depends on who you are talking to.
--
Derek M. Jones
On 3/03/2011, at 2:41 PM, Derek M Jones wrote:
> For the last 20 years or so my company has sold a tool that
> allows developers to specify the name of a function (user defined
> or otherwise) and various properties about its arguments and
> return value, these are used to check the source during
Richard,
On 3/03/2011, at 6:14 AM, Derek M Jones wrote:
As a compiler writer I don't regard printf as being part of the language
but as part of the library.
Note however that there are C compilers which, given a call to
{sn,s,f,}printf() with a string literal for the format, will
check that t
On 3/03/2011, at 6:14 AM, Derek M Jones wrote:
> As a compiler writer I don't regard printf as being part of the language
> but as part of the library.
Note however that there are C compilers which, given a call to
{sn,s,f,}printf() with a string literal for the format, will
check that the follow
Kari,
By that criterion, printf is definitely part of the C language.
printf is not part of the C syntax or semantics, it is a function
defined in a library.
Fortran and Pascal are examples of languages where the I/O is
defined to be part of the syntax/semantics of the languages and
not as fu
On 1/03/2011, at 11:34 PM, Kari Laitinen wrote:
> In my earlier post I said that it has been said that the printf
> function does not belong to the C language. In the paper
> http://www.alcatel-lucent.com/bstj/vol57-1978/articles/bstj57-6-1991.pdf
> Ritchie et al. discuss the C language.
> They sa
Richard O'Keefe wrote:
If you came across a sentence written using English syntax and
closed-class words but Japanese open class words, would it
still be English?
According to the theory that I have presented in
http://www.naturalprogramming.com/to_read/estimating_understandability_etc.pdf
suc
Kari and Richard's attention to symbols, definition, and meaning is
highly appropriate, but there's another angle at play here which I
think is more central to the language-ness of programming languages.
I'd like to share an analogy that's stuck with me for several when
thinking about the distincti
On 24/02/2011, at 3:11 AM, Kari Laitinen wrote:
> A classic book about the C programming language
> begins with a program that contains the statement
>
> printf("hello, world");
>
> It has been said, however, that the printf function
> that is used in the above statement does not
> belong to t
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