Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-18 Thread Ted Roche
On 3/17/07, mrgmhale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then again, I have seen the results of consultants who have basically pissed away a large amount of client capital (after getting their cut of course) chasing the Next Big Thing because it sounded cool, and M$ was so behind the Next Big Thing

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-18 Thread mrgmhale
industry, and it seems to hold true still - in pretty much any business as Ted states. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 9:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread mrgmhale
] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch What happens in 2032? Charlie Coleman wrote: At 10:35 AM 3/11/2007 -0400, mrgmhale wrote: ... I am still here despite the much feared, even more hated, Daylight Saving Time change! And all of my business PCs updated correctly

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread MB Software Solutions
mrgmhale wrote: I turn 78, and enter my 5th decade cutting code in xBase for my VFP9/Sedna apps, dazzling folks with my effective use of an antiquated language and database solution that will still run circles around whatever SuperBloat DotNotYet code M$ is stuffing down the throats of

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: 3/17/07 10:52 Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch mrgmhale wrote: I turn 78, and enter my 5th decade cutting code in xBase for my VFP9/Sedna apps, dazzling folks with my effective use of an antiquated language and database solution

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
What Xbase Was available in 1957? -Original Message- From: MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: 3/17/07 10:52 Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch mrgmhale wrote: I turn 78, and enter my 5th decade cutting code in xBase for my VFP9

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Weller
] Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch What Xbase Was available in 1957? -Original Message- From: MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: 3/17/07 10:52 Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch mrgmhale wrote: I turn

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Weller
15:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of the ''dot not crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified statements like this have probably never used .net further than Hello

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
He talks about bloated behemoths and then mentions Dot not. His bias is obvious, ergo, my point is valid. -Original Message- From: John Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: 3/17/07 11:31 Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch What unqualified

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
LOL. O K -Original Message- From: John Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: 3/17/07 11:27 Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch I think you missed part of the original post which was along the lines of 'What will happen in 2032' John Weller 01380

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 3/17/07, John Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of the ''dot not crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified statements like this have probably never used .net further than Hello world, if that much. Sorry John, nice try

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
Gullible is not the description that I would have chosen. -Original Message- From: Jean Laeremans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: 3/1the7/07 12:12 Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch On 3/17/07, John Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread MB Software Solutions
John Baird wrote: Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of the ''dot not crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified statements like this have probably never used .net further than Hello world, if that much. Well, perhaps, but then again, for what his

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread MB Software Solutions
John Baird wrote: Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of the ''dot not crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified statements like this have probably never used .net further than Hello world, if that much. Well, perhaps, but then again, for what his

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 11:23 AM, John Baird wrote: Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of the ''dot not crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified statements like this have probably never used .net further than Hello world, if that much. It's

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 11:27 AM, John Weller wrote: I think you missed part of the original post which was along the lines of 'What will happen in 2032' Nothing at all unusual. However, in 2038 there will be a problem with most POSIX systems and many C programs that use the

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 11:31 AM, John Weller wrote: Look at the whole thread in the archives before you make comments. ...and list all of the alternatives you explored before accusing others of not being open. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ed Leafe wrote: On Mar 17, 2007, at 11:23 AM, John Baird wrote: Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of the ''dot not crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified statements like this have probably never used .net further than Hello world, if that much.

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread mrgmhale
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of the ''dot not crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified statements like this have probably never used .net further than Hello world, if that much

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread mrgmhale
March 2007 15:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch What Xbase Was available in 1957? -Original Message- From: MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: 3/17/07 10:52 Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: FWIW, I've looked at .Net when it was first introduced, and then again when the 2.0 version came out. If I was forced to develop in it, I wouldn't hate it, but since I'm aware of much better ways of doing the same things, I wouldn't

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:33 PM, mrgmhale wrote: More obviously you missed the tongue-in-cheek humor. But that is okay, you picked up on the real underlying notation regardless. Moral: don't try to use humor or subtlety. Some people just can't fathom it. -- Ed Leafe --

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch Well, perhaps, but then again, for what his clients need and what he can do for them with his current skillset, he might not feel the need to go back for re-training on something different, be it DotNet, Java, or whatever. And supposedly, the older

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
nothing more than a passing acquaintance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:59 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch On Mar 17, 2007, at 11:23 AM, John

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
message. I've looked a perl, python, java, Borland c# and Delphi, etc. and still like the power of .net. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:01 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:39 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: FWIW, I've looked at .Net when it was first introduced, and then again when the 2.0 version came

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:40 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:33 PM, mrgmhale wrote: More obviously you missed the tongue-in-cheek humor. But that is okay, you picked up on the real

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 2:18 PM, John Baird wrote: Well I'm sure it wouldn't be Dabo. You're sure... ok... however that doesn't negate the fact that making absurd statements with nothing to back them up is ridiculous. Nothing to back up an absurd statement... hmmm... didn't I

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 2:23 PM, John Baird wrote: You don't have to give ringing endorsements. Just say you don't like it and won't use it, but don't make unfounded assertions as to usability, etc. That's all he's (and I'm) saying, but you can't do that, can you? Please try to

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread mrgmhale
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:33 PM, mrgmhale wrote: More obviously you missed the tongue-in-cheek humor. But that is okay, you picked up on the real underlying notation regardless. Moral: don't try to use humor

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 3/17/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:33 PM, mrgmhale wrote: More obviously you missed the tongue-in-cheek humor. But that is okay, you picked up on the real underlying notation regardless. Moral: don't try to use humor or subtlety. Some people just

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Jean Laeremans wrote: Moral: don't try to use humor or subtlety. Some people just can't fathom it. No need to cater for the lowest denominator, is there ? Well, given that they obviously can't grasp the difference between a hypothetical

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 3/17/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 17, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Jean Laeremans wrote: Moral: don't try to use humor or subtlety. Some people just can't fathom it. No need to cater for the lowest denominator, is there ? Well, given that they obviously can't

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ed Leafe wrote: On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: FWIW, I've looked at .Net when it was first introduced, and then again when the 2.0 version came out. If I was forced to develop in it, I wouldn't hate it, but since I'm aware of much better ways of doing the same

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Jean Laeremans wrote: Time to introduce some smileys ? Why? Do you find people of limited faculties to be funny? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 5:45 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: I don't remember you making a comment like that in the past. Granted it's been years, but it would have registered as a statement. I don't remember it ever coming up before. I hope that you realize that there are some things in

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 3/17/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 17, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Jean Laeremans wrote: Time to introduce some smileys ? Why? Do you find people of limited faculties to be funny? Other way around. Would allow them to share in the fun ;) A+ jml

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ed Leafe wrote: And some only care that the solution puts the most money in their pocket, whether it's good for the client or not. What do you call those people? Data Hos? Zing! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread MB Software Solutions
Stephen the Cook wrote: So as long as it's not a WIN os it's fine? From my POV the Data Ho just does it. They don't care anymore how it's done. Just that the work is completed. It's just characters and numbers to me. It has nothing to do anything past that. Sorry. But seeboth

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread mrgmhale
things better for me in a way. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch Stephen the Cook wrote

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Chet Gardiner
I meant 2038 I guess http://news.com.com/2100-7355-5129875.html Unix itself uses a similar method to resolve dates, but developers chose the maximum infinity value of 2 to the 31st power--about 2 billion seconds. That means that PTC software will time out Jan. 10, while most Unix programs

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-16 Thread Chet Gardiner
What happens in 2032? Charlie Coleman wrote: At 10:35 AM 3/11/2007 -0400, mrgmhale wrote: ... I am still here despite the much feared, even more hated, Daylight Saving Time change! And all of my business PCs updated correctly (including the NT4SP6a Server with a 3rd party patch). The

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-15 Thread Charlie Coleman
At 10:35 AM 3/11/2007 -0400, mrgmhale wrote: ... I am still here despite the much feared, even more hated, Daylight Saving Time change! And all of my business PCs updated correctly (including the NT4SP6a Server with a 3rd party patch). The M$ Win2000ProSP4 patch even worked! The only machine

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-13 Thread Chet Gardiner
No daylight savings time here in Tucson. It's about 85 and sunny. I'm thawing out... C Ted Roche wrote: On 3/11/07, mrgmhale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still here despite the much feared, even more hated, Daylight Saving Time change! And all of my business PCs updated correctly

[NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-11 Thread mrgmhale
Wow! I am still here despite the much feared, even more hated, Daylight Saving Time change! And all of my business PCs updated correctly (including the NT4SP6a Server with a 3rd party patch). The M$ Win2000ProSP4 patch even worked! The only machine that did not update was Lynda's (wife)

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-11 Thread john harvey
the time on all the other stuff. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mrgmhale Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:36 AM To: profox@leafe.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch Wow! I am still

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-11 Thread Ted Roche
On 3/11/07, mrgmhale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still here despite the much feared, even more hated, Daylight Saving Time change! And all of my business PCs updated correctly (including the NT4SP6a Server with a 3rd party patch). The M$ Win2000ProSP4 patch even worked! My blogging...