RE: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-24 Thread Bill Arnold
Michael, > > I think, for now, the better course of action is just to sell products > > and see where we stand in 5 or so years. MS is eventually going to > > have to do something about VFP's continuity, and I think they know > > that. Best resolution: turn it over to some team that will take i

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-24 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:19 AM, Bill Arnold < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael, > > > > Ozzie's CSA and was CTO. Ballmer's CEO. They both answer to > > the board. > > > > Aah, then he perhaps IS the guy who could certainly affect > > change in the > > right (whatever that is) direction rather

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-24 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Rick Schummer < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Is that why Microsoft is so lackluster? They are merely an army of > yes-people that aren't going to speak up if they see something wrong?<< > > Paul, you and I have obviously must have met or know different people at

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-24 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Bill Arnold wrote: > Michael, > > I think, for now, the better course of action is just to sell products > and see where we stand in 5 or so years. MS is eventually going to have > to do something about VFP's continuity, and I think they know that. Best > resolution: turn it over to some team tha

RE: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-24 Thread Alan Bourke
I see many apps moving to technologies like Air and Silverlight, ultimately, which offer a web-based but rich-client-like experience, with the advantage of cross-platform. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Sub

RE: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Bill Arnold
Michael, > > Ozzie's CSA and was CTO. Ballmer's CEO. They both answer to > the board. > > Aah, then he perhaps IS the guy who could certainly affect > change in the > right (whatever that is) direction rather than continuing an angle of > the company that perhaps isn't correct (whatever that

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Rick Schummer wrote: >>> I was mostly trying to slap MB's insinuation that Microsoft is an army of >>> drones, not agree with > him.<< > > Sorry Paul, I obviously missed your sarcasm. Poor grumpy MB, getting smacked > around this evening. > > Oh no pity neededI deserved that for being amb

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Paul McNett
Rick Schummer wrote: >>> I was mostly trying to slap MB's insinuation that Microsoft is an army of >>> drones, not agree with > him.<< > > Sorry Paul, I obviously missed your sarcasm. Poor grumpy MB, getting smacked > around this evening. > Well, I also got to call MS 'so lackluster'. How coul

RE: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Rick Schummer
>> I was mostly trying to slap MB's insinuation that Microsoft is an army of >> drones, not agree with him.<< Sorry Paul, I obviously missed your sarcasm. Poor grumpy MB, getting smacked around this evening. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.ricksc

RE: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Rick Schummer
>> How's thatclear now?<< Sure, so did you get a chance to take your happy pill? Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: h

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Paul McNett
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > Paul McNett wrote: >> Rick Schummer wrote: > Is that why Microsoft is so lackluster? They are merely an army of >>> yes-people that aren't going to speak up if they see something wrong?<< >>> >>> Paul, you and I have obviously must have met or kno

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Rick Schummer wrote: >>> Calvin could do virtually anything with VFP I'm sure, but the powers above >>> him said "enoughno > more on that product...start working your wonders in DotNet instead."<< > > Or you could say he took an opportunity to work on something that was not a > 20-year old c

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Paul McNett wrote: > Rick Schummer wrote: Is that why Microsoft is so lackluster? They are merely an army of >> yes-people that aren't going to speak up if they see something wrong?<< >> >> Paul, you and I have obviously must have met or know different people at >> Microsoft. I have not met

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Paul McNett
Rick Schummer wrote: >>> Is that why Microsoft is so lackluster? They are merely an army of > yes-people that aren't going to speak up if they see something wrong?<< > > Paul, you and I have obviously must have met or know different people at > Microsoft. I have not met a > single yes-person, an

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ted Roche wrote: > Ray Ozzie (http://www.crunchbase.com/person/ray-ozzie) holds the > position of Chief Software Architect, Bill Gates former position, is > an Officer of the company and answers to shareholders and the board. > He's also had a couple of successful ventures (Notes, Groove) that > do

RE: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Rick Schummer
>> Is that why Microsoft is so lackluster? They are merely an army of yes-people that aren't going to speak up if they see something wrong?<< Paul, you and I have obviously must have met or know different people at Microsoft. I have not met a single yes-person, and in fact, I can say most of the

RE: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Rick Schummer
>> Calvin could do virtually anything with VFP I'm sure, but the powers above >> him said "enoughno more on that product...start working your wonders in DotNet instead."<< Or you could say he took an opportunity to work on something that was not a 20-year old codebase, and work on something

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:35 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does this come as a shock that he or any other Microsoftie toes the > company line? After all, that is his livelihood and bread/butter. > They're paying the bills. To go against the hand that f

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Paul McNett wrote: > MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: >> Does this come as a shock that he or any other Microsoftie toes the >> company line? After all, that is his livelihood and bread/butter. >> They're paying the bills. To go against the hand that feeds you is >> asking to be fi

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Paul McNett
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > Does this come as a shock that he or any other Microsoftie toes the > company line? After all, that is his livelihood and bread/butter. > They're paying the bills. To go against the hand that feeds you is > asking to be fired and potentially havin

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ted Roche wrote: > Nothing to see here, move along... > > I thought Ozzie's memo from 2005 [1] was more insightful, though it's > quite dated now. I think the Borg is assimilating him... > > [1] http://www.scripting.com/disruption/ozzie/theinternetservicesdisruptio.htm > Does this come as a s

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Malcolm Greene wrote: > Strange. It worked for me this morning. (No snide remarks please) > > Try this page - the link in question is one of the most recent articles. > > http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/22/ > There was a comment on MyMesh.com about Web 3.0.I didn't realize that Web 2.0 w

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Paul McNett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nope, it is still an empty article (Firefox on Mac). > Try: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/22 and click on "The Ozzie Memo" -- no, wait, that's broken, too, there's ugly bits in the URL. Try (watch the wrap!) http:/

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Malcolm Greene
Strange. It worked for me this morning. (No snide remarks please) Try this page - the link in question is one of the most recent articles. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/22/ Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Paul McNett
Malcolm Greene wrote: > Stephen posted a bad URL. Here's a correct URL sent as tinyurl to avoid > word wrap. > > http://tinyurl.com/3zsuu3 Nope, it is still an empty article (Firefox on Mac). Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription M

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Malcolm Greene wrote: > Stephen posted a bad URL. Here's a correct URL sent as tinyurl to avoid > word wrap. > > http://tinyurl.com/3zsuu3 > I just see the ads...no article content. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: ht

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Malcolm Greene wrote: > Stephen posted a bad URL. Here's a correct URL sent as tinyurl to avoid > word wrap. > > http://tinyurl.com/3zsuu3 > > Malcolm > No no, I fixed his bum link, and it still shows nothing...verified by your good URL above. ___

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Malcolm Greene
Stephen posted a bad URL. Here's a correct URL sent as tinyurl to avoid word wrap. http://tinyurl.com/3zsuu3 Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Andrew Stirling wrote: > Unfortunately, I was unable to see this site from my business machine. > When I looked into it, the site wanted to register 13 scripts. > I declined to accept them all. > > I don't even see the article! What crap. ___ Post M

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Andrew Stirling
Unfortunately, I was unable to see this site from my business machine. When I looked into it, the site wanted to register 13 scripts. I declined to accept them all. Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 http://www.calcpay.co.uk HMRC Accredited UK payroll program Stephen Russell wrote: > Ray says that th

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Stephen Russell wrote: > Ray says that the world is a changing. > > —software-is-dead-long-live-the-web/> > > Would you write software to do the vertical you do for use on the web > instead? > > I'm definitely using a web-based database, w

[NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Stephen Russell
Ray says that the world is a changing. Would you write software to do the vertical you do for use on the web instead? -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-01