Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-06 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:27 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account > Tell me again why they couldn't make it easy to link the datasets to the > objects like Foxpro made it easy?? -- Datasets were the first attempt in .Net 1.3,

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Ed Leafe wrote: > On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:27 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account > wrote: > >> Tell me again why they couldn't make it easy to link the datasets to >> the >> objects like Foxpro made it easy?? > > Because they didn't want to make it look like Dabo? ;-) LOL!

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:27 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > Tell me again why they couldn't make it easy to link the datasets to > the > objects like Foxpro made it easy?? Because they didn't want to make it look like Dabo? ;-) -- Ed Leafe __

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Stephen Russell wrote: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:14 AM, Alan Bourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:13:43 -0600, "Stephen Russell" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>> A good comparison of what the EF is to be and what Linq already is. >>> >> If only there were an easy-to-use ORM f

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-06 Thread Alan Bourke
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 05:37:54 -0600, "Stephen Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Have you thought of making the mapper yourself? I thought about doing one for nHibernate (or was it Wilson OR?) but who's got the time :) -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-06 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:14 AM, Alan Bourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:13:43 -0600, "Stephen Russell" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> A good comparison of what the EF is to be and what Linq already is. >> > > If only there were an easy-to-use ORM for .Net that really wor

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-06 Thread Alan Bourke
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:13:43 -0600, "Stephen Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > A good comparison of what the EF is to be and what Linq already is. > If only there were an easy-to-use ORM for .Net that really worked well with OLE DB data sources like VFP. They're all centered round SQL Serve

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-05 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Stephen Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Tracy Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I attended a .NET meeting in Asheville, NC last month. >> "Developer Centric Features of SQL Server 2008 by Kevin Boles who is an >> independent S

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-04 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Tracy Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I attended a .NET meeting in Asheville, NC last month. > "Developer Centric Features of SQL Server 2008 by Kevin Boles who is an > independent SQL Consultant and SQL Server expert as well as a SQL MVP." > > It's focus was ma

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-04 Thread Tracy Pearson
I attended a .NET meeting in Asheville, NC last month. "Developer Centric Features of SQL Server 2008 by Kevin Boles who is an independent SQL Consultant and SQL Server expert as well as a SQL MVP." It's focus was mainly on SQL. One of the big points Kevin gave was using LINQ against Stored Proc

RE: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-04 Thread Allen
, 2008 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP? Im just getting a handle on .NET and started looking at LINQ. didnt like it so glad I can ignore it. Then again I looked at EF. Dont understand it so that doesnt sound like an advantage either. At 08:27 PM 4/11/2008, you wrote: >

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-04 Thread geoff
Im just getting a handle on .NET and started looking at LINQ. didnt like it so glad I can ignore it. Then again I looked at EF. Dont understand it so that doesnt sound like an advantage either. At 08:27 PM 4/11/2008, you wrote: >In terms of take-up, Linq is still a minnow - it's no COM or OLEDB.

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-04 Thread Alan Bourke
In terms of take-up, Linq is still a minnow - it's no COM or OLEDB. In that sense deprecating it has less of an impact even though it's exasperating to have to evaluate a whole new ball of wax in the Entity Framework. They need to rein themselves in and get a bit of focus instead of trying to cover

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Stephen Russell
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So it's a new version of linq then. Not a new thing and byebye linq ? -- Linq is really 3 different products. Objects, XML and SQL would be their names, and the direction of what the query w

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Ted Roche
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So it's a new version of linq then. Not a new thing and byebye linq ? >From my understanding from those who actually read TFA and care, LINQ for SQL is like to be discouraged and then discontinued in favor of the Entity Framework.

RE: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Allen
So it's a new version of linq then. Not a new thing and byebye linq ? Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:41 PM --- My co workers who went to PDC last week o

RE: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Allen
One old one that comes to mind is network dde. I had that working a treat. Then it went and nothing was easy :) Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions,LLC Allen wrote: > Makes you wonder sometimes if Microsoft technology

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Stephen Russell
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:19 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Allen wrote: >> Makes you wonder sometimes if Microsoft technology is worth following. As >> soon as you get used to it or find it even its dead. >> Bloody stupid >> Al > > > Certainly an argument could easily

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Ted Roche wrote: > > Evolution is good, although you might not think so if your name were T. Rex. > > Change is good if it progresses in the right direction, but change for > change sake ("this year , with tailfins!") is just bilking the > customer without delivering real value. > > It's not bad

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Allen wrote: > Makes you wonder sometimes if Microsoft technology is worth following. As > soon as you get used to it or find it even its dead. > Bloody stupid > Al Certainly an argument could easily be made for this---Windows DNA comes to mind. When I read Richard's email, I had to laugh as I

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Ted Roche
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Makes you wonder sometimes if Microsoft technology is worth following. As > soon as you get used to it or find it even its dead. > Bloody stupid Evolution is good, although you might not think so if your name were T. Rex. Change

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 3, 2008, at 7:02 AM, Allen wrote: > Makes you wonder sometimes if Microsoft technology is worth > following. As > soon as you get used to it or find it even its dead. > Bloody stupid Ah, but *this* time it will be different! -- Ed Leafe _

RE: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Allen
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NF] LINQ - RIP? From the Database Weekly newsletter from SQLServerCentral.com... Editorial - Dead LINQ - Database Weekly (Nov 3, 2008) There might be lots of DBAs holding their hands up in thanks over the news that LINQ-> SQL might be d

[NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Richard Kaye
From the Database Weekly newsletter from SQLServerCentral.com... Editorial - Dead LINQ - Database Weekly (Nov 3, 2008) There might be lots of DBAs holding their hands up in thanks over the news that LINQ-> SQL might be dead. I saw a number of blog posts that referred to this note from the ADO