On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:13 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote:
You still need to adjust code per backend for joins, date math and
such.
Oracle / DB2 / MySQL are all different in these cases.
Of course, to the extent that you use backend-specific code
explicitly, that's true. If you use the
Ed Leafe wrote:
On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:13 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote:
You still need to adjust code per backend for joins, date math and
such.
Oracle / DB2 / MySQL are all different in these cases.
Of course, to the extent that you use backend-specific code
explicitly,
Ed Leafe wrote:
On Jan 9, 2007, at 8:31 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote:
Ed -- are you incorporating something like that in Dabo (i.e., code to
take care of those things for you)?
Yes. Our data layer consists of a cursor object, which has a backend
object that is specific
Ed Leafe wrote:
Yesterday I posted Part 1 of the screencast on using the data
environment of the Dabo Class Designer to create a data-aware
application. I've just completed Part 2, and it's now available at:
http://leafe.com/screencasts/dataenvironment1.html
I suggset you forget
On Jan 8, 2007, at 7:24 AM, Man-wai CHANG wrote:
I suggset you forget about the DataEnvironment class. It's in Foxpro
merely for drap-and-drop programmers. Real programmers don't DD,
and so
far there is no really productive use for DD.
There is no need to use the visual tools. You
On 1/8/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no need to use the visual tools. You can create the exact
same application in Dabo using nothing but Notepad.
We're also happy to work with the fake programmers as well as the
real programmers.
On Jan 8, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Jean Laeremans wrote:
http://esl.about.com/library/glossary/bldef_51.htm
Actually, most of the current hard-core programmers outside of the
Where do you want to go today? world wouldn't dream of working in
anything other than vi or emacs. That's one of
On 1/8/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 8, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Jean Laeremans wrote:
http://esl.about.com/library/glossary/bldef_51.htm
Actually, most of the current hard-core programmers outside of the
Where do you want to go today? world wouldn't dream of working in
Ed Leafe wrote:
We're also happy to work with the fake programmers as well as the
real programmers.
ROFLMAO! Good one, Ed!
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On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:42 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote:
Well, I wouldn't say it so brashly, but I've felt that way somewhat
about the VFP DE for some time, as I thought it tied you into a VFP
backend pretty much. Using a different approach (like n-tier in my
case) allows me much more
MB Software Solutions wrote:
Stephen the Cook wrote:
Ed Leafe wrote:
On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:42 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote:
Well, I wouldn't say it so brashly, but I've felt that way somewhat
about the VFP DE for some time, as I thought it tied you into a VFP
backend pretty much.
Chet Gardiner wrote:
For the right price I can make it sound FM...:-)
FM is old hat - most people here are switching to DAB
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On 1/5/07, MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ed Leafe wrote:
Pity i'm just too lazy to play newbie again...s
What if the EU demands that you write apps that will run on Linux?
Do you really think that day will ever come? Cool for you guys if it
did
No
On 1/5/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 4, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Jean Laeremans wrote:
As far as Linux goes you're right will be Java though as you may know
web apps are nowadays craze.
Yeah - there are about a zillion web frameworks in Python, but
nothing for desktop
On 1/5/07, Jean Laeremans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some pcs will remain win one's i suppose as i don't see something in
the linux world to replace Arcview
(http://www.esri.com/software/arcgis/arcview/index.html)
Resistance is futile. Look how you can deploy the server:
On 1/5/07, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/5/07, Jean Laeremans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some pcs will remain win one's i suppose as i don't see something in
the linux world to replace Arcview
(http://www.esri.com/software/arcgis/arcview/index.html)
Resistance is futile. Look
on how to get this stuff to run?
TIA,
Desmond
To: profox@leafe.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu,
4 Jan 2007 12:37:23 -0500 Subject: [NF] New Dabo Screencast Well, it's
been a few months since I've done one these screencasts, but I haven't been
slacking off. I've
On 1/5/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are several places to start.
I read the README and ran the sample to confirm I had dabo installed
and running. It was hard to tell from the many informational messages
if installation was successful. It appeared to be.
I installed the
On Friday, January 05, 2007 11:04 AM Ted Roche wrote:
snipped
Sounds like a great opportunity for a book ;)
Everything You Wanted to Know About Dabbling with Dabo, But Were Afraid
to Ask
David L. Crooks
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On Friday, January 05, 2007 11:04 AM Ted Roche wrote:
snipped
Sounds like a great opportunity for a book ;)
Everything You Wanted to Know About Dabbling with Dabo, But Were Afraid
to Ask
Make sure you give David credit in the acknowledge section, Ed. g
On Friday, January 05, 2007 11:19 AM Peter Cushing wrote:
What about another in the series: Dabo for Dummies
But wait... we're all professionals ;-)
Yea, I never liked books that insult me. Why would I want to read a book
calling me a dummy, idiot or be a morons guide? I can do that all by
On Jan 5, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Ted Roche wrote:
I read the README and ran the sample to confirm I had dabo installed
and running. It was hard to tell from the many informational messages
if installation was successful. It appeared to be.
That's one area where Paul and I differ. I think
On Jan 5, 2007, at 11:18 AM, Peter Cushing wrote:
What about another in the series: Dabo for Dummies
Nah, there are plenty of .Net books out there already! ;-)
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That's one area where Paul and I differ. I think that those messages
are confusing, while he thinks
And what do think the rest of the time, Ed gdr ?
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http://www.leafe.com/screencasts/dataenvironment2.html
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Ed Leafe wrote:
Yesterday I posted Part 1 of the screencast on using the data
environment of the Dabo Class Designer to
On Jan 5, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:
Yesterday I posted Part 1 of the screencast on using the data
environment of the Dabo Class Designer to create a data-aware
application. I've just completed Part 2, and it's now available at:
On Jan 5, 2007, at 2:44 PM, Andrew Stirling wrote:
actually its here
http://www.leafe.com/screencasts/dataenvironment2.html
Thanks; you caught that quicker than I did!
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On 1/5/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yesterday I posted Part 1 of the screencast on using the data
environment of the Dabo Class Designer to create a data-aware
application. I've just completed Part 2, and it's now available at:
Nice but if memory serves me right a certain Mr.
Thought that was a loaded question, lemme dabble a little more over the
weekend...
After I view part 2 of course...
Thank You,
Desmond
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:02:19 -0500 To: [EMAIL
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] New Dabo Screencast On Jan 5, 2007, at 9:34
presentations were very informative.
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Subject: [NF] New Dabo Screencast, Part 2
Yesterday I posted Part 1
On Jan 5, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Alan Lukachko wrote:
IAC, the sound on the second one was on a lower level than the first -
probably due to the recording software. Was that your 'radio' voice?
The sound is recorded separately in high-quality, and then mixed-
down to lower-quality mp3,
Well, it's been a few months since I've done one these screencasts,
but I haven't been slacking off. I've been working on further
developing the Dabo Class Designer, and integrating it with some of
our other visual tools.
This one should be of interest to all you Fox folk.
On 1/4/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, it's been a few months since I've done one these screencasts,
but I haven't been slacking off. I've been working on further
developing the Dabo Class Designer, and integrating it with some of
our other visual tools.
This one
On Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:37 PM Ed Leafe wrote:
Well, it's been a few months since I've done one these
screencasts, but I haven't been
slacking off. I've been working on further developing the Dabo Class
Designer, and integrating
it with some of our other visual tools.
Subject: [NF] New Dabo Screencast
Well, it's been a few months since I've done one these screencasts,
but I haven't been slacking off. I've been working on further
developing the Dabo Class Designer, and integrating it with some of
our other visual tools.
This one should
On Jan 4, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Jean Laeremans wrote:
Rather nice, pity it's a come and see next week demo.just as it
became interesting
Next week? I hope to be able to finish it tomorrow.
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On Jan 4, 2007, at 1:35 PM, David Crooks wrote:
Now the honesty part: It could have been a little smoother which
comes
with practice with the screencast software.
Do you mean that I wasn't very smooth, or that the recording wasn't?
If it's the former, well, not much I can do
On Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:47 PM Ed Leafe wrote:
On Jan 4, 2007, at 1:35 PM, David Crooks wrote:
Now the honesty part: It could have been a little smoother which
comes with practice with the screencast software.
Do you mean that I wasn't very smooth, or that the recording
On 1/4/07, David Crooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, you sound fine...
Bit Am. though...
I guess then the best thing is to just go with the lags. It is almost
expected to have some lags feeding the video over the Internet and
dealing with network traffic. Not a big deal.
Just ran it
On Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:20 PM Jean Laeremans wrote:
On 1/4/07, David Crooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, you sound fine...
Bit Am. though...
You make it sound like that is a bad thing... :-)
I guess then the best thing is to just go with the lags. It is
almost
expected to have
On Jan 4, 2007, at 4:20 PM, Jean Laeremans wrote:
No, you sound fine...
Bit Am. though...
I'll take that as a compliment! ;-)
I guess then the best thing is to just go with the lags. It is
almost
expected to have some lags feeding the video over the Internet and
dealing with
On 1/4/07, David Crooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:20 PM Jean Laeremans wrote:
On 1/4/07, David Crooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, you sound fine...
Bit Am. though...
You make it sound like that is a bad thing... :-)
Nah, just an observation. Kinda
On 1/4/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What if the EU demands that you write apps that will run on Linux?
Don't get me wrong Ed i really like what i see.
As far as Linux goes you're right will be Java though as you may know
web apps are nowadays craze.
BTW does running Dabo in any
Ed Leafe wrote:
Pity i'm just too lazy to play newbie again...s
What if the EU demands that you write apps that will run on Linux?
Do you really think that day will ever come? Cool for you guys if it
did
--
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MB Software Solutions, LLC
On Jan 4, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Jean Laeremans wrote:
As far as Linux goes you're right will be Java though as you may know
web apps are nowadays craze.
Yeah - there are about a zillion web frameworks in Python, but
nothing for desktop apps, which is why we ended up creating Dabo.
BTW
On Jan 4, 2007, at 7:17 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote:
Do you really think that day will ever come?
Probably more of a phasing-in thing.
Cool for you guys if it did
Nah, like Jean said - they'd probably all do web apps.
-- Ed Leafe
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For the right price I can make it sound FM...:-)
David Crooks wrote:
On Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:20 PM Jean Laeremans wrote:
On 1/4/07, David Crooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, you sound fine...
Bit Am. though...
You make it sound like that is a bad
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