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On Mar 6, 2007, at 6:55 PM, MB Software
On Mar 7, 2007, at 6:24 AM, mrgmhale wrote:
Selling (reselling license for) VFP or a Windows OS, not a penny.
Licensing
the solutions I created based Windows VFP, plenty enough since I
released
my first VFP commercial app in 2001.
That's the point. Companies like RedHat don't
in response to:
Surely you can concede that Linux is growing, not stagnant or shrinking?
MM said:
Not on the desktop is isn't, where most of these kids will be working.
but they're *not* working on the desktop they are using a 'thin client'** -
which is my objection to this as a pro-linux story
Michael Madigan wrote:
I don't think that was the case. IBM PC became prominent because
businesses wouldn't switch from minis to Apples because it was
thought of as a toy.
It was business that made the IBM PC.
What?
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Michael Madigan wrote:
Not on the desktop is isn't, where most of these kids
will be working.
How long have we been hearing that Linux is going to
replace Microsoft on the desktop? 5 years? 10 year?
You're right. It's like the voice recognition stuff. Let's just call
all of them
Andy Davies wrote:
but they're *not* working on the desktop they are using a 'thin client'** -
which is my objection to this as a pro-linux story ...
that and the fact that someone who 'loves the OS' apparently can't come up
with a script to grant privs
** they don't appear to say *which*
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Andy Davies wrote:
but they're *not* working on the desktop they are using a 'thin client'**
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which is my objection to this as a pro-linux story ...
that and the fact that someone who 'loves the OS
They aren't dumb in the sense of terminals of old (VT100 style) that I
used as little as ten years ago.
Most schools use thin clients for student use machines, there is less
incentive for them to be stolen as there is no use for them in a home
environment, the TOC is lower and the ease of
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Unlike at present where we have intelligent Terminals and Dumb users!
Then again most users have always been dumb.
Dave Crozier
Michael Madigan wrote:
It was business that made the IBM PC.
... because since it was an open architecture, anyone could make one,
hence competition arose in the market.
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You're asking quite a bit of Linux. Never has a
technology taken hold without there being a profit
motive for the technology.
--- MB Software Solutions
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Michael Madigan wrote:
Not on the desktop is isn't, where most of these
kids
will be working.
How long have
Michael Madigan wrote:
You're asking quite a bit of Linux. Never has a
technology taken hold without there being a profit
motive for the technology.
So nothing of open source (because some of it is free under the GPL
license and some of its derivatives) can take hold?
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Michael J.
On 3/6/07, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're asking quite a bit of Linux. Never has a
technology taken hold without there being a profit
motive for the technology.
This is not some pony-tailed, Berkenstock-wearing hippies taking over
the school and teaching free love; this is a
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This is not some pony-tailed, Berkenstock-wearing hippies taking over
the school
I don't think that was the case. IBM PC became prominent because
businesses wouldn't switch from minis to Apples because it was
thought of as a toy.
It was business that made the IBM PC.
What?
Mike's right. It was IBM's entry into the market that made PCs a
safe purchase for
instead of Taken hold I should have said replaced
or dominated.
Oh sure there's firefox. Right now firefox is 22% of
the browsers that surf my website.
But profit motive will be the only thing that makes
this the dominant browser.
Linux, on the other hand accounts for 1.6% of my
visitors.
using video, or flash, or shokwave.. or anything
media related.. They quite
frankly SUCK.
Bob Lee
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I was talking Linux in general, not this individual
case.
After years and years of much fanfare, 1.6% of the
visitors to my sites are Linux.
With file and web servers, I agree that Linux is doing
pretty well, but there is a huge financial advantage
to using Linux servers over Windows. There
If I'm not mistaking, IBM was not too happy when the
first clones hit the market.
--- Jerry Wolper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think that was the case. IBM PC became
prominent because
businesses wouldn't switch from minis to Apples
because it was
thought of as a toy.
It was
Does your web site offer information that would be of interest to Linux
users?
Michael Madigan wrote:
After years and years of much fanfare, 1.6% of the
visitors to my sites are Linux.
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Michael Madigan wrote:
You're asking quite a bit of Linux. Never has a technology taken
hold without there being a profit motive for the technology.
Holy crap, Michael and I agree. If there isn't a great profit motive then
it's just a big hobby group. Much like chess players international.
Stephen the Cook wrote:
Holy crap, Michael and I agree. If there isn't a great profit motive then
it's just a big hobby group. Much like chess players international. They
are a large group but wonder why Poker is getting all the big money events.
LOL!!! Good example, Stephen! So many
using wise terms.
Bob Lee
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Control isn't a bad thing. How much time
No, it's a t-shirt site. My point is that in the
general population of surfers, Linux is only 1.6%
http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike
--- Kevin Cully [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does your web site offer information that would be
of interest to Linux
users?
Michael Madigan wrote:
wow that gives me a great idea!
Celebrity Chess.
Britney Spears v Paris Hilton in a 10 hour,
bikini-clad snoozer
--- Stephen the Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Michael Madigan wrote:
You're asking quite a bit of Linux. Never has a
technology taken
hold without there being a profit
It's about time some Finnish Geek starts writing
another OS.
How about we call it Vihtorix?
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Stephen the Cook wrote:
Holy crap, Michael and I agree. If there isn't a
great profit motive then
it's just a big hobby group. Much like
Michael Madigan wrote:
wow that gives me a great idea!
Celebrity Chess.
Britney Spears v Paris Hilton in a 10 hour,
bikini-clad snoozer
And every time they lose a chess piece, they have to also lose an
article of clothing. And the loser has to shave her head. (Looks like
Britney
On Mar 6, 2007, at 6:55 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote:
LOL!!! Good example, Stephen! So many times the zealots seem to give
off this kind of air. Kind of like Mac vs PC guy commercials: some
would see the Mac guy as cool/hip, whereas others might see him as
arrogant. Some might see the
Well yeah, if you're going to have adds popping up
when linux boots like
socket_init() in linux/init/main.c causes the
following network initializations:
linux/net/socket.c prints:
* Buy Star Wars on DVD *
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer
Right, but Linux has to be running on computers to
sell Linux apps. How are you going to convince
computer manufacturers to pre-install Linux on
computers if there is no profit motive?
It's rumored that Dell is going to do it, but we'll
see.
I really thought Lindows was going to change
Michael Madigan wrote:
I really thought Lindows was going to change
everything, I was wrong.
Wonder why it didn't catch on as much as many expected? Perhaps it was
strong arm tactics from The Man (aka M$). g
--
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
MB Software Solutions, LLC
David Crooks wrote:
After a few speed bumps, the Windsor School District is on track to all
but eliminate Microsoft Windows in favor of Novell SUSE Linux servers
and desktops.
http://go.techtarget.com/r/1076960/6030287
David L. Crooks
So, it's back to the thin client thinking, eh?
--
Quote from the article:
At our Brooks facility, the OS wasn't that easy to manipulate for our
thin clients, Carver said. I love the OS, but it is not built for the
thin client. Carver said Novell promised more identity support during
the summer in the form of a software update.
Me: That's cool
WHY ARE YOU YELLING? :)
This is happening every day. A full switch-over is a bit radical, but
many schools are heterogenous, and a lot are moving towards a
Linux-heavy backbone with mixed Linux, Mac and Windows clients.
--
Ted Roche
Ted Roche Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com
On 3/5/07, MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, it's back to the thin client thinking, eh?
K12LTSP (Kindergarten - Grade 12 Linux Terminal Server Project) is a
great way to use older and less resource-intensive machines in a
classrooom to share the same environment, allow for
Kevin Cully wrote:
Quote from the article:
At our Brooks facility, the OS wasn't that easy to manipulate for our
thin clients, Carver said. I love the OS, but it is not built for the
thin client. Carver said Novell promised more identity support during
the summer in the form of a software
Ted Roche wrote:
On 3/5/07, MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, it's back to the thin client thinking, eh?
K12LTSP (Kindergarten - Grade 12 Linux Terminal Server Project) is a
great way to use older and less resource-intensive machines in a
classrooom to share the
On Monday, March 05, 2007 1:44 PM Ted Roche wrote:
WHY ARE YOU YELLING? :)
This is happening every day. A full switch-over is a bit radical, but
many schools are
heterogenous, and a lot are moving towards a Linux-heavy backbone with
mixed Linux, Mac and
Windows clients.
I did not mean to yell
That's great, give our kids a skill they probably
can't use once they get a job.
--- David Crooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After a few speed bumps, the Windsor School District
is on track to all
but eliminate Microsoft Windows in favor of Novell
SUSE Linux servers
and desktops.
Michael Madigan wrote:
That's great, give our kids a skill they probably
can't use once they get a job.
Ok Mike, I'll bitecan you explain why they can't use those skills?
Is it because it's a Microsoft world at this point? Surely you can
concede that Linux is growing, not stagnant
Not on the desktop is isn't, where most of these kids
will be working.
How long have we been hearing that Linux is going to
replace Microsoft on the desktop? 5 years? 10 year?
Ok Mike, I'll bitecan you explain why they can't
use those skills?
Is it because it's a Microsoft
I don't think that was the case. IBM PC became
prominent because businesses wouldn't switch from
minis to Apples because it was thought of as a toy.
It was business that made the IBM PC.
--- MB Software Solutions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin Cully wrote:
Quote from the article:
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