On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I drive a Ford Performance Vehicles GT. It compares performance wise with
European
performance cars with similar build quality that cost 2-3times as much.
Really ? In Australia perhaps..add a few curbs and ..one sees
Leland Jackson wrote:
If the big three go out of business, who do you think will pick up the
slack to met the USA demand for autos? I don't see young start-up
companies being able to move into the vacuum previously occupied by
large USA autos manufacturers geared towards mass production. I
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Leland Jackson wrote:
If the big three go out of business, who do you think will pick up the
slack to met the USA demand for autos? I don't see young start-up
companies being able to move into the vacuum previously occupied by
large USA autos
Leland Jackson wrote:
Yes, I'm considering that the loss of the big three American auto
companies would result in many of the displaced workers finding there
way into the surviving auto companies, that would need additional labour
to meet increased demands for their auto products. I know that
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Leland Jackson wrote:
Yes, I'm considering that the loss of the big
three
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
Leland Jackson wrote:
Yes, I'm considering that the loss of the big three American auto
companies would result in many of the displaced workers finding there
way into the surviving auto companies, that would need additional labour
to meet
Leland Jackson wrote:
I'm perfectly happy with my TDI VW Jetta Wagon, even with the price of
gasoline way down.
Just the thing for the list auto-weenie!
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/smallbusiness/0812/gallery.stalled_electric_cars.smb/index.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/6btzsr
Hi
Lee,
It appears to me that these companies have a short term
liquidity crisis due to an economic crisis, and with
sales down and no chance to raise capital under current
conditions form either stock or bond issuance,
they need our help.
Exactly. The automakers from Europe and Japan are
Pete Theisen wrote:
Leland Jackson wrote:
I'm perfectly happy with my TDI VW Jetta Wagon, even with the price of
gasoline way down.
Just the thing for the list auto-weenie!
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/smallbusiness/0812/gallery.stalled_electric_cars.smb/index.html
Leland Jackson wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/6btzsr
After all that, wouldn't you at least like to TRY a 3 second 0 - 60
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1959-bocar-xp5.htm
The looks of the BOCAR reminds me a little of the Chevy corvette, and
I'm sure she would be a blast to drive with all that
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Lee,
It appears to me that these companies have a short term
liquidity crisis due to an economic crisis
Pete Theisen wrote:
Leland Jackson wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/6btzsr
After all that, wouldn't you at least like to TRY a 3 second 0 - 60
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1959-bocar-xp5.htm
The looks of the BOCAR reminds me a little of the Chevy
. Ford and Chrysler can be
fixed but GM is gone no-matter-what.
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Lee
as
a lost cause. Ford and Chrysler have serious problems that are beatable but
GM is all but dead.
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Sent: Saturday, 6 December 2008 11:46 AM
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Geoff Flight wrote:
One significant difference is that GM is non-viable period. Recession or not
the company is done-for. The euro and Japanese manufacturers ARE viable but
in a short-term problem because of this crisis. Ford and Chrysler can be
fixed but GM is gone no-matter-what.
Hi Geoff!
but
GM is all but dead.
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I disagree. Given a little oxygen GM will be back
Leland Jackson wrote:
Auto Manufacturer that produce auto in mass need at least a one year
lead period to plan and tool for the next years models, so how could
they have possibly adjusted to the volatility in the petroleum market
and to the sudden economic crisis in which they presently
Pete Theisen wrote:
Leland Jackson wrote:
Auto Manufacturer that produce auto in mass need at least a one year
lead period to plan and tool for the next years models, so how could
they have possibly adjusted to the volatility in the petroleum market
and to the sudden economic crisis
Looks like the environmental weenies will be crying in their tofu.
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Michael Madigan wrote:
Looks like the environmental weenies will be crying in their tofu.
Hi Michael!
If it is green it isn't supposed to be fun.
Just the thing for the list auto-weenie!
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/smallbusiness/0812/gallery.stalled_electric_cars.smb/index.html
or
The crisis in the financial and housing sectors of the US economy has
put many projects on hold or out of business. Even the big three US
Automotive companies and struggling to survive, and they know plenty
about making cars. Also, T-bone (eg T boone) Pickens was forced to put
his wind
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Leland Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The crisis in the financial and housing sectors of the US economy has
put many projects on hold or out of business. Even the big three US
Automotive companies and struggling to survive, and they know plenty
about making
Leland Jackson wrote:
The crisis in the financial and housing sectors of the US economy has
put many projects on hold or out of business. Even the big three US
Automotive companies and struggling to survive, and they know plenty
about making cars. Also, T-bone (eg T boone) Pickens was forced
If the big three go out of business, who do you think will pick up the
slack to met the USA demand for autos? I don't see young start-up
companies being able to move into the vacuum previously occupied by
large USA autos manufacturers geared towards mass production. I would
expect the demand
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Leland Jackson wrote:
The crisis in the financial and housing sectors of the US economy has
put many projects on hold or out of business. Even the big three US
Automotive companies and struggling to survive, and they know plenty
about making cars. Also, T-bone
I see both pros and cons to letting the USA auto industry fail. If the
USA became totally dependent on foreign sources to supply America's
transportation needs, it could make relations with the auto producting
nations stronger, and the auto producing nations would be dependent on
good
drive conversion over here. Cant see that
happening!
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Leland
with right-hand drive conversion over here. Cant see that
happening!
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and
probably the last good car to come out of Ford...
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The economy is increasingly
becoming
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That said my dream car is an American Ford GT which would cost in excess of
$A600,000 with right-hand drive conversion over here. Cant see that
happening!
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Did they put a turbo in
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The economy is increasingly
becoming a global market, so looking at individual national economies is
not as relevant as looking
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The economy is increasingly
becoming a global market, so looking at individual national economies is
not as relevant
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On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That said my dream car is an American Ford GT which would cost in excess
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Adam Buckland wrote:
You are assuming that the car producing nations all run according to
national interests. No, they run on commercial interests, if you walk
down the streets of Havana you will see plenty of non US cars despite
governments opposing links
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Adam Buckland wrote:
You are assuming that the car producing nations all run according to
national interests. No, they run on commercial interests, if you walk
down the streets of Havana you will see plenty of non US cars despite
governments opposing
, 5 December 2008 9:01 AM
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Made in Australia is a little surprising. I'm no longer interested in
fast, powerful cars, as my street racing, girl chasing days are long
over. I'm very happy with my current transportation, a 2005 VW Jetta
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Made in Australia is a little surprising. I'm no longer interested in
fast, powerful cars, as my street racing, girl chasing days are long
over. I'm very happy with my
:30 AM
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The FPV-GT seem to be an impressive auto, but the 16.8010416739 MPG is a
little low for the times:
14L = 3.69840873 gallons
- = 16.8010416739 MPG
100m
28MPG. But it didn't buy it for
its economy!
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The FPV-GT seem to be an impressive auto
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That's a little better:
100m = 62.1371192 miles
-- = 23.5214583562 MPG
10L = 2.64172052 gallons
Regards,
LelandJ
Geoff Flight wrote:
I do a lot of short drives. 16MPG would please me if it achieved
2008 9:56 AM
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That's a little better:
100m = 62.1371192 miles
-- = 23.5214583562 MPG
10L = 2.64172052 gallons
Regards,
LelandJ
Geoff Flight wrote:
I do a lot of short drives. 16MPG
is slightly different to the
imperial gallon. Exactly why that is the case is anyone's guess.
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OK. The British gallon is different from an American gallon. A British
gallon is 4.5 litres and an American gallon is 3.8 litres, so that might
explain the difference in our
The American gallon is used in America and the rest of the world uses
the
imperial gallon
And you call us the imperialists!
The nerve!
- Bob
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The American gallon is used in America and the rest of
the world uses
the
imperial gallon
And you call us the imperialists!
The nerve!
- Bob
Adam Buckland wrote:
As an aside though I have a nice Mustang Convertible in the UK but
that's almost 42 years old now well looked after in my absence and
probably the last good car to come out of Ford...
Hi Adam!
I have a 95 E250 that is a good truck. Inline 4.9 6 that seems
unbreakable.
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