At 09:41 AM 9/13/2011 +0100, Alan Bourke wrote:
>On Monday, September 12, 2011 9:56 PM, "Allen"
> wrote:
>
>I'm risking being called a shill for Servoy here, which I'm totally not,
>but I had some replies to your points. I'm only evaluating it as well.
>
> > I am wondering why you want an alternat
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Alan Bourke
Sent: 13 September 2011 15:07
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Subject: RE: Anybody using VS Lightswitch
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:02 PM, "Allen"
wrote:
> Ok so Alpha 5 and servoy are out. I'm still heading for C# as I have VS
> 2010.
Comparing Servoy to C
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:02 PM, "Allen"
wrote:
> Ok so Alpha 5 and servoy are out. I'm still heading for C# as I have VS
> 2010.
Comparing Servoy to C# is not really valid - you should compare Servoy
to C# plus whatever ORM you decide to use, plus whatever database, plus
whatever embedd
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:09 AM, "Dave Crozier"
wrote:
> > I would like VFP type data as in free tables
> rather than security screwed up ones.
So you don't envisage writing anything where it's important that people
can't just open the tables and run riot ? There are reasons that people
On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:09 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:
> Think we are a into [NF] territory here...!
Since the thread subject was about VS Lightswitch, I think we've been
there all along!
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Allen wrote:
>Hi Alan
>Not going to call anyone anything for using whatever they like. The
>main
>problem I have is the cost. It's the kind of thing maybe a big company
>can
>afford but not me. So, will Servoy be about after 2015. Also why not
>Dabo
>which seems to do cross platform and web and i
Think we are a into [NF] territory here...!
Dave
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From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
Allen
Sent: 13 September 2011 12:03
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Anybody using VS Lightswitch
Ok so Alpha 5 and servoy are out. I
web based with very minimal application
coding change.
I'll drop you a personal email with some possibilities...
Dave
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From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
Allen
Sent: 13 September 2011 12:03
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject:
Ok so Alpha 5 and servoy are out. I'm still heading for C# as I have VS
2010. But I hate sql server. I would like VFP type data as in free tables
rather than security screwed up ones. What is the choice of a fast table
based system.
Allen
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Alan,
I have used Alpha 5 quite
Of
Alan Bourke
Sent: 13 September 2011 11:33
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Subject: RE: Anybody using VS Lightswitch
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:03 AM, "Allen"
wrote:
> So, will Servoy be about after 2015.
Well, they've been around since 1997 apparently - presumably they will
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Although Alpha Five is closed source, uses a proprietary version of
BASIC and only has a 30-day trial, all of which count against it in my
book.
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On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:03 AM, "Allen"
wrote:
> So, will Servoy be about after 2015.
Well, they've been around since 1997 apparently - presumably they will
pick up at least some of the people coming off VFP. That Alpha Five
seems interesting, has a more appealing licencing model if n
et
as new technology I wonder what a stir it would cause in the programming
world..
Dave
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From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
Alan Bourke
Sent: 13 September 2011 09:47
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Anybody using VS L
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From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Bourke
Sent: 13 September 2011 10:41
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Anybody using VS Lightswitch
On Monday, September 12, 2011 9:56 PM, "Allen"
wrote:
I'm risking be
On Monday, September 12, 2011 4:16 PM, "Tracy Pearson"
wrote:
> >
>
> The cost of Servoy removed it from our options as well.
That's the killer. If they are wanting to position themselves as the
successor to VFP then they have to look at the types of people that use
VFP and the size of appl
On Monday, September 12, 2011 9:56 PM, "Allen"
wrote:
I'm risking being called a shill for Servoy here, which I'm totally not,
but I had some replies to your points. I'm only evaluating it as well.
> I am wondering why you want an alternative to VFP. It's not dead yet
2015, yes. That might be
uivalent of VFP Datagrids ... then some more!
I Give it a look guys ... I think you'll be impressed, I was/am.
Dave
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From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
Mike Copeland
Sent: 13 September 2011 03:20
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re
Agreed+++
Well put.
Mike
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Subject: Re: Anybody using VS Lightswitch
From: José Olavo Cerávolo
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Date: 9/12/2011 6:46 PM
Hi Guys,
My fault...
I do not consider Servoy as a solution.
I want to be able to build applications for medium
Hi Guys,
My fault...
I do not consider Servoy as a solution.
I want to be able to build applications for medium, small and even home users.
I don't want the application to be attached to a service.
Any company selling a service in place of VFP cannot sell itself as a
replacement to it neither
Allen wrote on 2011-09-12:
> I am wondering why you want an alternative to VFP. It's not dead yet
despite
> the marketing , lies I think " of Servoy. 2015 isnt it before its
dropped.
> Anyway what makes Servoy any better than VFP. It's still an unknown as
far
> as clients are concerned.
> Als
Is it possible to do android and ipad devs ?
Al
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Behalf Of Rick Schummer
Hi John,
>> Looking at writing something for the Droid with it.<<
Lightswitch to create Droid apps? Really interested in
I am wondering why you want an alternative to VFP. It's not dead yet despite
the marketing , lies I think " of Servoy. 2015 isnt it before its dropped.
Anyway what makes Servoy any better than VFP. It's still an unknown as far
as clients are concerned.
Also Ken is not on the team. He is just a mark
: Anybody using VS Lightswitch
Hi John,
>> Looking at writing something for the Droid with it.<<
Lightswitch to create Droid apps? Really interested in this since the
generated app is Silverlight, not Java. I am curious how this works.
Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.
www.whitelightc
On Monday, September 12, 2011 10:00 AM, "Kurt Wendt"
wrote:
> So - how do YOU Find Servoy? You say you seem to like it. Is it a direct
> replacement for FoxPro? Is it basically FoxPro coding? Or - is it
> completely different than FoxPro???
>
What is it first of all? Well, take a look at this
On Sep 12, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Kurt Wendt wrote:
> So - how do YOU Find Servoy? You say you seem to like it. Is it a direct
> replacement for FoxPro? Is it basically FoxPro coding? Or - is it
> completely different than FoxPro???
I find it so interesting that you get that impression based o
Hey Alan,
I'm glad you brought up Servoy - as I was going to suggest it here. The
only reason I was going to do this - is because the key guy on the
Servoy team (Ken Levy) recently e-mailed me (a bit like a sales pitch)
at my company e-mail here where I work by day. (Although - when I wrote
back t
Looked at a fairly late beta, it was like a lot of these tools -
fantastic as long as what you're doing falls into one of their
pre-cooked use cases. Once you start to deviate, the amount of work to
get it to do anything it doesn't want to means you might as well just
use IdeaBlade or something and
Looking at writing something for the Droid with it.
John Harvey
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From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of Malcolm Greene
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 7:55 AM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Anybody using VS Lightswitch
Hi José
Hi José,
I looked at an early beta of this product and was not impressed.
My personal, highly subjective opinion was this product is clunky and a
pain-in-the-ass to install with lots of dependencies.
The product itself is basically a code generator - but the beta version
I was running was going
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