RE: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-29 Thread Tristan Leask
I have just come across this article written by Ed which made me laugh... http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6869 Most the bit about Chet throwing his toys out the pram made me chuckle! Tristan

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-29 Thread MB Software Solutions
Tristan Leask wrote: I have just come across this article written by Ed which made me laugh... http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6869 Most the bit about Chet throwing his toys out the pram made me chuckle! Feeling nausea after reading the comments of that articleyes, those

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-27 Thread Alan Bourke
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:45:01 -0500, Kevin Cully My question is what new tool should I add to my toolbox that will keep CULLY Technologies rolling along for years to come? C# -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-27 Thread Robert Calco
My take on the question for what its worth is that there is no one tool you need to learn, but rather a skill set. Specifically, learn meta programming, i.e., code generation. Both Java and the CLR have rich support for two features that make meta programming relatively easy: reflection

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-25 Thread MB Software Solutions
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: We impose a tariff on all items that we import to make it equivalent to what it costs here. We're allready doing it, just not yet on labor, and it’s at a point where it has to happen or in another 50 years, the economist's will be proven wrong and we'll all be

RE: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-25 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:34 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: Fox on Linux? Alternatives... Virgil Bierschwale wrote: We impose a tariff on all items that we import to make it equivalent to what it costs here. We're allready doing it, just not yet

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-25 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:20 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: Fox on Linux? Alternatives... Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Excellent idea... United we stand, Divided we fall

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-25 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:34 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: Fox on Linux? Alternatives... Virgil Bierschwale wrote: We impose a tariff on all items that we import to make it equivalent to what it costs here. We're allready doing

RE: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-25 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:12 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: Fox on Linux? Alternatives... Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Yep, and if we all stand together, we could get that point across. Remember the old saying, United we

RE: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-25 Thread PabloSr
: RE: Fox on Linux? Alternatives... What in the hell are you smoking tonight ?? How would suggesting that we stand together and tell our politicians to go fly a kite, be taxes ? You don't know me very well apparently... If I were in charge, the only people getting welfare would be those

RE: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-25 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
, November 25, 2006 7:33 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: Fox on Linux? Alternatives... I just love these Fox on... Linux? Alternatives... Don't we all? PabloSr Value, above all, persons, not things. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

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2006-11-25 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Next thing you'll be associating with terrorists, or affiliating to the communist party! There's a difference?No, JUST KIDDING! SHEEP g -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter,

RE: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Tristan Leask
I have tried to run our compiled programs under Wine, but it always crashed out when reading/writing to the registry. Funny That. The program starts up ok, but then crashes. All I installed was wine whilst running in Ubuntu. Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Tristan Leask
: Fox on Linux? Alternatives... Subject: RE: Fox on Linux? Alternatives... I have tried to run our compiled programs under Wine, but it always crashed out when reading/writing to the registry. Funny That. The program starts up ok, but then crashes. All I installed was wine whilst running

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread MB Software Solutions
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Hi folks, I'm taking a couple steps back and looking at the big picture again. I'm gonna put Fox on a Fedora Core box and am weighing the alternatives... 1. Crossover Office 2. Wine 3. VM (server? pro? freebie?) 4. ? s Who out there is running VFP on a Linux

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Ted Roche
On 11/24/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who out there is running VFP on a Linux box on a day-to-day basis, how are you doing it, and what are your if I had to do it all over again, I would experiences? Good morning. Hope you and yours had a happy Thanksgiving. I'm not

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Kevin Cully
Hey Whil. I haven't had a lot of success in this area. I'm hoping to scrape together enough money to purchase a new laptop with 2G of RAM and give VM a try. I think this is most likely the best solution. I know that Ed VNCs to another Windows machine and does his development this way. It

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 24, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Kevin Cully wrote: I know that Ed VNCs to another Windows machine and does his development this way. It wouldn't help when you're on the road, visiting a client. On the road I use a Windows VM. At home, I use Remote Desktop Connection to connect

RE: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I would be interested in hearing about this also. The last time I saw fox on xenix was SCO Foxplus. Not even sure if its still around ? Virgil Bierschwale http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
We can't publicly admit that we've got VFP running on Linux across the globe successfully, Whil, for fear of The Man. g Tsk, tsk, we don't need your kind around here. Ballmer spreads enough FUD for a thousand people. :) Seriously, this isn't actually true. You can run VFP on Linux

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
I'm not running a lot of Fox these days, but I still need a Windows box around for a couple of apps I haven't moved over yet: xCase, My sole Fox box is starting to make sounds like it's going to die, so I thought I'd better get a backup moved over 'just in case'. I also need to run QB, but

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Kevin Cully wrote: Hey Whil. I haven't had a lot of success in this area. I'm hoping to scrape together enough money to purchase a new laptop with 2G of RAM and give VM a try. I think this is most likely the best solution. I know that Ed VNCs to another Windows machine and does

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Kevin Cully
I don't think there is really critical mass. Of course, I'm not doing a good job of reporting either. VFP just kinda disappears without an error message or anything I can find in a log. Basically, I've been reporting that it don werk! Perhaps I need to look deeper and see if I can find

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
of the challenges of Wine, I'm using VMWare Server to run a full image of WinXPProSP2. Advantages: fully compatible with WXP, contained in What Linux host are you running? I'm gonna put it on a FC6 box; although I note there are a variety of things to consider wrt the Anaconda installer not

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
major OS platforms so I think I would better spend my time learning Python/Dabo and REALbasic. If only I didn't have to sleep. g Yes, we have a saying around here. (Actually, we have a lot of sayings around here) The one that is applicable here is So many pedestrians, so little time.

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread MB Software Solutions
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: I've got seven years out of this notebook; I'd say I got my money's worth if it died tomorrow. IBM sure does make 'em solid. (I dropped a TP off the counter at JFK, sans case, and all it did was scratch the corner.) My GM has a new Lenovo that he really

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread MB Software Solutions
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Are they doing anything about the issues you report, or isn't there critical mass? I know Jeremy wanted me to scrape up a few grand to pay for them to look at what it would take to add VFP into their list of approved apps. How about someone setting up a

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread MB Software Solutions
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: We can't publicly admit that we've got VFP running on Linux across the globe successfully, Whil, for fear of The Man. g Tsk, tsk, we don't need your kind around here. Ballmer spreads enough FUD for a thousand people. :) I was referring

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
How about someone setting up a PayPal account or something similar whereby we can make a donation towards this? Silly idea or valid? Hey, that sounds like a great idea. I bet there are 10,000,000 VFP developers in the world, if you count Russia and India and China and Viet Nam. We just

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
MB Software Solutions wrote: Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: We can't publicly admit that we've got VFP running on Linux across the globe successfully, Whil, for fear of The Man. g Tsk, tsk, we don't need your kind around here. Ballmer spreads enough FUD for a thousand

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Ted Roche
On 11/24/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not too worried about not being OS. That's kinda in the middle of my list. Most interested to get rid of: Vendors who treat customers like criminals. Hmmm, who could that be? Novell? *rimshot* -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates,

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Kevin Cully
I would think that just running a VM does most of what VFP developers are wanting. Free, it's here today, no magic elixir needed. I'm going to keep testing VFP9 on Crossover Office/WINE but I'm not going to hold my breath. On the other hand, VFP will continue to run on Windows (currently 90%

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Ted Roche
On 11/24/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Linux host are you running? I had been running this on an Ubuntu box for a while, but a kernel update caused some problems. I'm looking at switching it over to another Ubuntu box. Lots of good info available, though. Yes, folks

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread MB Software Solutions
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Hey, that sounds like a great idea. I bet there are 10,000,000 VFP developers in the world, if you count Russia and India and China and Viet Nam. We just need 1% of them to contribute, oh, $5 each. Heck, just $2 each. I know _I_ would chip in $2. In fact, what

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Ted Roche
On 11/24/06, Kevin Cully [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...VFP will continue to run on Windows (currently 90% of desktops) until I retire, I'm sure, in 25 to 30 years from now even if it is in emulation. My question is what new tool should I add to my toolbox that will keep CULLY Technologies

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Casey McGuire
Kevin Cully wrote: All this is a stop gap measure IMO however. Bottom line: VFP won't ever run natively on Macs or Linux. I want my apps to run natively on the 3 major OS platforms so I think I would better spend my time learning Python/Dabo and REALbasic. If only I didn't have to sleep.

RE: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
... Virgil Bierschwale http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 1:12 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: Fox on Linux

RE: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
(Pro*) Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 1:24 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: Fox on Linux? Alternatives... How about someone setting up a PayPal account or something similar whereby we can make a donation towards this? Silly idea or valid? Hey, that sounds like a great idea. I bet

Re: Fox on.... Linux? Alternatives...

2006-11-24 Thread MB Software Solutions
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Excellent idea... United we stand, Divided we fall.. That’s the reason I'm trying to get my offshore project going... I'm not against offshoring, but if the average programmer here makes 65K, then I want to add a tariff so that we are paying them 65K so that we're