Re: Office automation using VFP 10 64-bit version

2020-04-17 Thread Ted Roche
On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 2:22 PM Jürgen Wondzinski 
wrote:

> Yepp. No OLE-Automation from VFP x64 to any 32Bit product.  And no admin
> would install the Office x64 version, since it even states in the setup,
> that you should use that x64 only if you have really, really, really big
> XLSX files etc. Bigger than 2 Gb. And it also states that Com/OLE problems.
>

I think you give "admins" too much credit, my friend. On many clients' new
Windows 10 machines, I find Win10 64-bit, of course, and Office 64-bit.
When challenged, I've been told that's the right one to install on 64-bit
OSes. *eyeroll*

Of course, calling "the computer guy" they hired for the
install-and-configure-gig on Craigslist an "admin" might be a stretch...


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AW: Office automation using VFP 10 64-bit version

2020-04-17 Thread Jürgen Wondzinski
Yepp. No OLE-Automation from VFP x64 to any 32Bit product.  And no admin would 
install the Office x64 version, since it even states in the setup, that you 
should use that x64 only if you have really, really, really big XLSX files etc. 
Bigger than 2 Gb. And it also states that Com/OLE problems.

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/choose-between-the-64-bit-or-32-bit-version-of-office-2dee7807-8f95-4d0c-b5fe-6c6f49b8d261

You can check the version of your installed office somewhere under File / 
Options 

wOOdy


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wOOdy -- Charlie had responded to your answer on my 64-bit thread.  What do you 
think?


On 4/16/2020 2:50 PM, Charlie Coleman wrote:
> Quick question. Are you all saying there is no Automation available to MS
> Office products in the 64-bit world?
>
> I recently wrote a quick VFP app to 'automate' Outlook (ref:
> createobject('outlook.application')) to generate and send a bunch of
> emails. The Outlook 365 was 64-bit (I think). Are you saying I would not
> have been able to do that if I would have used the 'VFP 10' runtimes, etc?
> I understand ActiveX/FLLs that were compiled 32-bit would be an issue - if
> they did not have a 64-bit version included.
>
> -Charlie
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:30 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
> mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
>
>> Ah yes, the automation angle.  Temporarily forgot about that. Thanks,
>> wOOdy!
>>
>>
>> On 4/16/2020 1:24 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
>>> You are correct, there is no reason to have a 64bit FoxPro application
>> for a regular Desktop app. It is different for building the middle-tier of
>> a distributed app or a Webserver extension. But on a regular desktop you
>> gain nothing, but inherit a lot of problems: No support for regular 32bit
>> ActiveX or FLL components. No COM-control of Office or other 32Bit stuff.
>>> Thus you better use the 32Bit version of VFPA, which is really highly
>> recommended, since it cures a lot of old bugs.
>>> wOOdy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> I finally I downloaded the VFPA runtime files and am going to use that
>> IDE and develop/deploy with this "VFP 10" version since many here have
>> spoken of it without much negativity.
>>> Question:  what would be the benefit of using the 64-bit version IF I'M
>> NOT USING DBFS (because in my MBSS apps, I use MariaDB/MySQL as the
>> backend, not VFP).  I just don't see the benefit other than for marketing
>> my apps to say "they're 64-bit using the VC++ 10 runtimes."
>>> tia,
>>> --Mike
>>>
>>>
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Re: [NF] Recommendations on a balance board for standup desk use

2020-04-17 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Reply in a week after use...and THEN I'll consider it!!!  Without shoes, 
I'm thinking my feet would get tired and/or achey due to no arch support.



On 4/17/2020 9:46 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote:

Standing Desk Anti Fatigue Mat – FEZIBO Wooden Wobble Balance Board Stability 
Rocker with Ergonomic Design Comfort Floor Mat

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07HD838VP/

Followup: t came in yesterday and I'm a ***big*** fan. There's even a hole so you can 
hang this on the wall. I'm going to use this to lock it to my desk. Damn quarantined 
family members keep "borrowing" all my stuff!

Highly recommended!

Malcolm



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Congrats Eric Selje!

2020-04-17 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC


   "Congratulate Eric for starting a new position as Senior Information
   Technology Security Officer at United States Courts"


Well now...are you gonna be using any VFP at that gig?   lol



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Re: [NF] Recommendations on a balance board for standup desk use

2020-04-17 Thread Malcolm Greene
> A picture pls Malcolm. ;)

https://pasteboard.co/J4f6r1g.png

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Re: [NF] Recommendations on a balance board for standup desk use

2020-04-17 Thread Jean Laeremans
A picture pls Malcolm. ;)

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 4:13 PM Richard Kaye  wrote:

> And sore feet...
>
> --
>
> rk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Malcolm
> Greene
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 10:05 AM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] Recommendations on a balance board for standup desk use
>
> Hey Vince,
>
> > Really?  This seems counter-intuitive. Standing and wobbling reduces
> fatigue.  I mean, I WANT to believe - it seems like it would be healthier
> than sitting, if you can get the desk to work out . How long have you been
> using one?
>
> I have one of those 48" Varidesk contraptions so I can shift between
> sitting and standing positions. I go in cycles ... standing for a few
> months ... and then sitting for a few months. The standing part takes some
> time to get used to. Don't go from 0 to 12 hours your first day. I also
> wear compression leggings when I'm going to be standing for long periods of
> time. Not sexy ... (definitely not sexy) but they do make a difference. The
> wobbling prevents your legs/knees from stiffening up.
>
> Mal
>
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RE: [NF] Recommendations on a balance board for standup desk use

2020-04-17 Thread Richard Kaye
And sore feet...

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Subject: Re: [NF] Recommendations on a balance board for standup desk use

Hey Vince,

> Really?  This seems counter-intuitive. Standing and wobbling reduces fatigue. 
>  I mean, I WANT to believe - it seems like it would be healthier than 
> sitting, if you can get the desk to work out . How long have you been using 
> one?

I have one of those 48" Varidesk contraptions so I can shift between sitting 
and standing positions. I go in cycles ... standing for a few months ... and 
then sitting for a few months. The standing part takes some time to get used 
to. Don't go from 0 to 12 hours your first day. I also wear compression 
leggings when I'm going to be standing for long periods of time. Not sexy ... 
(definitely not sexy) but they do make a difference. The wobbling prevents your 
legs/knees from stiffening up.

Mal

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Re: [NF] Recommendations on a balance board for standup desk use

2020-04-17 Thread Malcolm Greene
Hey Vince,

> Really?  This seems counter-intuitive. Standing and wobbling reduces fatigue. 
>  I mean, I WANT to believe - it seems like it would be healthier than 
> sitting, if you can get the desk to work out . How long have you been using 
> one?

I have one of those 48" Varidesk contraptions so I can shift between sitting 
and standing positions. I go in cycles ... standing for a few months ... and 
then sitting for a few months. The standing part takes some time to get used 
to. Don't go from 0 to 12 hours your first day. I also wear compression 
leggings when I'm going to be standing for long periods of time. Not sexy ... 
(definitely not sexy) but they do make a difference. The wobbling prevents your 
legs/knees from stiffening up.

Mal

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Re: [NF] Recommendations on a balance board for standup desk use

2020-04-17 Thread Vince Teachout
Really?  This seems counter-intuitive.   Standing and wobbling reduces 
fatigue.  I mean, I WANT to believe - it seems like it would be 
healthier than sitting, if you can get the desk to work out . How long 
have you been using one?



On 04/17/20 9:46 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote:

Standing Desk Anti Fatigue Mat – FEZIBO Wooden Wobble Balance Board Stability 
Rocker with Ergonomic Design Comfort Floor Mat

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07HD838VP/

Followup: t came in yesterday and I'm a ***big*** fan. There's even a hole so you can 
hang this on the wall. I'm going to use this to lock it to my desk. Damn quarantined 
family members keep "borrowing" all my stuff!

Highly recommended!

Malcolm



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Re: [NF] Recommendations on a balance board for standup desk use

2020-04-17 Thread Malcolm Greene
> Standing Desk Anti Fatigue Mat – FEZIBO Wooden Wobble Balance Board Stability 
> Rocker with Ergonomic Design Comfort Floor Mat
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07HD838VP/

Followup: t came in yesterday and I'm a ***big*** fan. There's even a hole so 
you can hang this on the wall. I'm going to use this to lock it to my desk. 
Damn quarantined family members keep "borrowing" all my stuff!

Highly recommended!

Malcolm


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Office automation using VFP 10 64-bit version

2020-04-17 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
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wOOdy -- Charlie had responded to your answer on my 64-bit thread.  What 
do you think?



On 4/16/2020 2:50 PM, Charlie Coleman wrote:

Quick question. Are you all saying there is no Automation available to MS
Office products in the 64-bit world?

I recently wrote a quick VFP app to 'automate' Outlook (ref:
createobject('outlook.application')) to generate and send a bunch of
emails. The Outlook 365 was 64-bit (I think). Are you saying I would not
have been able to do that if I would have used the 'VFP 10' runtimes, etc?
I understand ActiveX/FLLs that were compiled 32-bit would be an issue - if
they did not have a 64-bit version included.

-Charlie


On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:30 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:


Ah yes, the automation angle.  Temporarily forgot about that. Thanks,
wOOdy!


On 4/16/2020 1:24 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:

You are correct, there is no reason to have a 64bit FoxPro application

for a regular Desktop app. It is different for building the middle-tier of
a distributed app or a Webserver extension. But on a regular desktop you
gain nothing, but inherit a lot of problems: No support for regular 32bit
ActiveX or FLL components. No COM-control of Office or other 32Bit stuff.

Thus you better use the 32Bit version of VFPA, which is really highly

recommended, since it cures a lot of old bugs.

wOOdy



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I finally I downloaded the VFPA runtime files and am going to use that

IDE and develop/deploy with this "VFP 10" version since many here have
spoken of it without much negativity.

Question:  what would be the benefit of using the 64-bit version IF I'M

NOT USING DBFS (because in my MBSS apps, I use MariaDB/MySQL as the
backend, not VFP).  I just don't see the benefit other than for marketing
my apps to say "they're 64-bit using the VC++ 10 runtimes."

tia,
--Mike



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