Re: Application Protection

[Eric Selje]

I think ReFox is still out there. It has a application scrambler to prevent
decompilation, if that's what you're looking for.

Eric


On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 5:35 PM Carl Lindner  wrote:

> Eons ago, I picked up Armadillo/Software passport 32 bit to protect my
> application.  I still use on an old PC but there must be a better solution.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts.  Thanks.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
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Re: VFPA Shortcut Keys

[Eric Selje]

You just need to get a real 'murican keyboard!

On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 1:43 PM  wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> Me thinks that those new shortcuts are not really into
> Internationalization.
> For that "[" we here in German must press Alt+Ctrl+8. Now mix that with
> another Ctrl-Press for getting somen indention?
> Or it works by the physical key-position, then it would be Ctrl+ö or
> Ctrl+ä, which would be also very hard to memorize.
>
> But of course, I'm happy with any improvements for our beloved overaged
> baby. 
>
> wOOdy
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: ProFox  Im Auftrag von Eric Selje
> Gesendet: Freitag, 1. März 2024 17:57
> An: ProFox Email List 
> Betreff: VFPA Shortcut Keys
>
> I just got the latest VFPA updates email, and was struck by how awesome the
> new keyboard shortcuts are:
>
>
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VFPA Shortcut Keys

[Eric Selje]

I just got the latest VFPA updates email, and was struck by how awesome the
new keyboard shortcuts are:


NEW.] VFP 9.0 FIX - THE NEW ACCESS KEYS FOR THE MENU ITEMS INDENT AND
UNINDENT
[NEW.] VFP 9.0 FIX - THE NEW ACCESS KEYS FOR THE MENU ITEMS COMMENT AND
UNCOMMENT

Visual FoxPro Advanced supports the following keyboard shortcuts in Editor:
 
---
 | CTRL++   | Enlarge
font.
|

---
 | CTRL+-   | Reduce
font.
|

---
 | CTRL+]   |
Indent.
|

---
 | CTRL+[   |
Unindent.
|

---
 | CTRL+*   |
Comment.
|

---
 | CTRL+SHIFT+* |
Uncomment.
|

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I clicked on the link to read more
 and was pleasantly
surprised to get acknowledged that this was a suggestion I had made quite a
while back.

If you're using VFP,9 you should be using VFPA.

Eric


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Re: Run under WIN 11

[Eric Selje]

Any true 32 bit version, so anything after VFP 3 I'd think though I cannot
recommend using a version that far back.

On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 2:09 AM Charles Hart Enzer, M.D. 
wrote:

> What is the oldest version that can run under WIN 11
>
> Thank you
> --
>
>
> *Shai / שי **Charles Hart Enzer, MD, (Retired: KY**, NY, OH**), FAACAP*
> *Aliyah : Cincinnati to Jerusalem
> 's German Colony
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>
>
>
> *  Volunteer Associate Professor of PsychiatryUniversity of Cincinnati
> Medical CenterWebSite: **EnzerMD.com *
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> *
> *
> <
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Re: Programatically placing text boxes on a form

[Eric Selje]

Along these lines, if you haven't checked out the Dynamic Forms
 project on VFPx, that makes
programmatically creating forms MUCH easier.

E


On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 5:19 AM Tracy Pearson  wrote:

> The textbox needs to be added with a method on the form.
>
> thisform.addobject( "TextBox" + LTRIM(STR(i)) + LTRIM(STR(j)),
> "textbox")
>
> oTextbox = evaluate( "TextBox" + LTRIM(STR(i)) + LTRIM(STR(j)))
>
>
> HTH,
> Tracy
>
>
> On October 29, 2023 11:43:13 PM EDT, Joe Yoder  wrote:
> >I know I had code years ago that did this but it apparently got mangled
> >during computer transitions.  The code below runs in the load event of  a
> >form but results in a blank form.  The ,"parent = thisform line" is
> >commented out because it causes a "Property PARENT is read-only" error..
> >
> >FOR i = 1 TO 4
> >FOR j = 1 TO 10
> >oTextbox = CreateOBJECT("TextBox")
> >WITH oTextbox
> >.Name = "TextBox" + LTRIM(STR(i)) + LTRIM(STR(j))
> >.Left = (j - 1) * 10
> >.Top = (i - 1) * 20
> >.Width = 100
> >.Height = 20
> >.Value = "Data for cell " + LTRIM(STR(i)) + ", " +
> LTRIM(STR(j))
> >.Visible = .t.
> >   * .Parent = thisform
> >ENDWITH
> >ENDFOR
> >ENDFOR
> >
> >What am I missing?
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >
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Re: Log4VFP or Log4Fox

[Eric Selje]

I think that's what most people do, and what my session at SW Fox in a few
weeks will address.

E

On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 8:47 AM Alan Bourke  wrote:

> I just have my own class that I create a global instance of, and that logs
> to file under a specified folder structure based on date, like:
>
> app\logs\2023\10\05\app.log
>
> Then an append method like:
>
> myApp.goLogger.Append("some text")
>
> Which updates the log file like:
>
> 2023-10-05T14:44:58:some text
>
> If I needed features like logging to a table, different log levels and so
> forth I'd use one of the two you mentioned.
>
> --
>   Alan Bourke
>   alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
>
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Log4VFP or Log4Fox

[Eric Selje]

Anyone here using Log4VFP
 or Lisa Slater
Nichols' Log4Fox?

If not, how are you doing your application logging?

Eric


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Re: ProFox List Statistics for September 2023

[Eric Selje]

Slow month! Let's pick it up (see new thread).

Eric

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 7:03 AM List Administrator Account 
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> ==
> ProFox List Statistics
> September 2023
> ==
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> ProFoxTech: 184
> ==
>
> Total Posts: 14
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> Daily Message Counts for September 2023
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> 
> DOW  Count
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>
>
> Distinct Posters to the List
> (changes relative to August 2023)
> 
> Non-OT messages: 11 (Down 21.43%)
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>
>
> Top 11 Contributors by Number of Non-OT Posts
> 
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> 
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>   4.1Ted Roche
>   5.1Kurt Wendt
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>   9.1List Administrator Account
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> 
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>   9.1List Administrator Account
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>  11.1Rick Schummer
>
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> Top 3 Contributors by Number of New Threads Started
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> 
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>   2.1List Administrator Account
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>
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>   2.2Southwest Fox 2023: URGENT - Now or never, register today
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Re: Just call me Master, for short

[Eric Selje]

Congrats! That sounds like a heck of a commitment.

Eric


On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 12:18 PM Vincent Teachout  wrote:

>
> And... Done!
>
> Master of Science in Information Security.
> https://www.parchment.com/u/award/f75a554cf48fd78bb2a872629841f08d
>
>
> If you have any Science or Information Security that needs mastering, just
> let me know.
>
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Re: Southwest Fox 2023: URGENT - Now or never, register today

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It is ON. See you there!

On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 2:27 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> What was the outcome?  I signed up late.
>
>
> On 8/28/2023 7:16 AM, Rick Schummer wrote:
> > The fate of Southwest Fox is being decided Wednesday. Help us make the
> decision to keep this conference going easy. We
> > won't charge your credit card until September. There is no more time for
> you to procrastinate. It simply is now or
> > never.
> >
> > If you are going to Southwest Fox this year (in-person or virtually),
> please head over to the registration Web site,
> > right now, before you forget: https://geekgatherings.com/Registration
> >
> > Only 53 days until we hope to gather in Scottsdale!
> >
> > Rick
> > White Light Computing, Inc.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Chilkat Version 95 released yesterday

[Eric Selje]

I was in Chicago for that massive Microsoft worldwide Windows 95 rollout.
Man, they don't announce Windows releases like that anymore!

On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 4:27 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> "Version 95" -- when I saw that I heard the Rolling Stones tune "Start
> Me Up" in my head.  (That was the rollout song used by M$ for Windows
> 95, iirc)
>
> ;-)
>
>
> On 8/4/2023 2:18 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:
> > ...for those that are interested.
> >
> > ChilkatVFP has some version 95 methods/properties already in the latest
> > version, but that doesn't appear to be "enough" for a release. I have to
> > wait for the release notes to catch all the documented
> changes/additions...
> >
> > Bill Anderson
> >
> >
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Re: Logging

[Eric Selje]

Ha! Well now I need to make time to show that video.

Civil War Reenactment log made me LOL.

E


On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 1:11 PM Ed Leafe  wrote:

> On Aug 1, 2023, at 15:15, Bill Anderson  wrote:
> >
> > Well, the effects of deforestation and biodiversity come to mind...
> >
> > Did you have something else in mind? ;)
>
> This came to my mind:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR-REDevAzk
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Logging

[Eric Selje]

Ok sounds like I'm on the right track, as I've addressed not only the
technical stuff you've mentioned but will have multiple forestry puns!

E

On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:15 PM Bill Anderson  wrote:

> Well, the effects of deforestation and biodiversity come to mind...
>
> Did you have something else in mind? ;)
>
> Bill
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 6:13 AM Eric Selje  wrote:
>
> > I'm doing a session on logging at SW Fox.
> >
> > Just based on that information, what would you hope to see the session
> > cover?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Eric
> >
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Logging

[Eric Selje]

I'm doing a session on logging at SW Fox.

Just based on that information, what would you hope to see the session
cover?

Thanks,

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Re: Fox.wikis.com

[Eric Selje]

It really is. I wish they could work something out. Mike Y., if you're out
there reading this can you make nice with Stephen for the benefit of the
community? We've communicated many times in the past and it's always been
pleasant and professional.

Eric


On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 4:02 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
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> That's a real shame that it's still down.  http://fox.wikis.com/
>
>
> --
> Michael J. Babcock, MCP
> Fox/VFP dev since 1997
> Developer of FabNet estimating software - mbsoftwaresolutions.com
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Re: Southwest Fox 2023: Registration Opens

[Eric Selje]

Looks great! Can't wait to see everyone in person again.

Eric


On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 7:07 PM Rick Schummer <
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> Speakers (https://swfox.net/speakers.aspx) and sessions (
> https://swfox.net/sessions.aspx) for Southwest Fox 2023 have
> been announced, and registration is open! As we discussed earlier, we have
> a limit on the number of people who can
> attend in-person, and in less than 48 hours since registration opened, 1/3
> of the spots have already been taken. So, if
> you're considering attending in-person, register (
> https://swfox.net/register.aspx) today or you could miss out! Also,
> Super-Saver Registration, which saves you $100, is available only through
> July 31st, so don't wait. When registering, be
> sure to select the proper conference on the registration site: choose
> either the in-person event or the virtual event.
>
> Rick
> White Light Computing, Inc.
>
>
>
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Re: Passing parameters to an external program run from fox

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[image: image.png]

(From the Win32 API App on VFPx)

On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 1:12 AM Joe Yoder  wrote:

> I'm pretty sure I have done this before but now I can't figure out the
> syntax to make this happen.  I finally substituted a batch file to display
> the parameters passed in and to pause to allow reading time.  The batch
> file reports parameters passed in from the command linre but none from VFP.
>
> Can someone help me out?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Joe
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Re: Byte Arrays in VFP

[Eric Selje]

Coincidentally as I was preparing my VFP2C32 presentation just now for next
week's Virtual Fox Fest, I was reading about the Windows API's support for
memory mapped files.

"Memory-mapped files: The Windows API also provides support for
memory-mapped files, which allow developers to map a file directly into
memory and access it as if it were an array."

I'm going to see if I can contrive an example of how to do this in VFP.

Eric

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:31 AM Eric Selje  wrote:

> Couldn't you leave the file on disk and make the changes directly to the
> file with low level file functions
> <https://hackfox.github.io/section4/s4g194.html>?
>
> Eric
>
> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 9:33 PM Joe Yoder  wrote:
>
>> I want to pull a 3.5 meg file into a Byte Array in Fox, make some changes
>> to individual bytes, and write the array back to another file.
>>
>> The only way I have found to do so is to build the array one character at
>> a
>> time.  Is there a better way to do this?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any input ,
>>
>> Joe
>>
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Re: Byte Arrays in VFP

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Couldn't you leave the file on disk and make the changes directly to the
file with low level file functions
?

Eric

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> I want to pull a 3.5 meg file into a Byte Array in Fox, make some changes
> to individual bytes, and write the array back to another file.
>
> The only way I have found to do so is to build the array one character at a
> time.  Is there a better way to do this?
>
> Thanks in advance for any input ,
>
> Joe
>
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Re: Error instantiating class when opening a form

[Eric Selje]

 Timely question! I just had this happen to a client last Thursday. App has
been working for years, but they called to say it suddenly doesn't work
with a "Cannot load class" type of error.

After some troubleshooting we determined the issue was their MSP's security
software determined that RichTxt32.ocx was malicious and blocked it. It
would have been nice if the app could catch that particular error and load
the form without those controls present rather that fail altogether. It may
cause deleterious side effects though. I may give this some thought...

Eric

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 8:26 AM Man-wai Chang  wrote:

> I had a form without the class lib. Could I force open the form
> ignoring the class instantiation error?
>
> Other than opening the form.scx,  delete those references and pack it ...
> :)
>
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Re: Using OpenAI like ChatGPT?

[Eric Selje]

Some are arguing that it does actually "understand". Depending on how you
define the word, I agree.

https://danielmiessler.com/blog/yes-gpts-llms-understand-argument/

Eric


On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 4:08 AM Man-wai Chang  wrote:

> Just saw following old post from West Wind:
>
> ChatGpt and VFP - West Wind Technologies Support
> Jan 10, 2023
> https://support.west-wind.com/Thread6IR0SAABQ.wwt
>
> I am wondering whch human programmer wrote that function... :)
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 1:29 AM Alan Bourke 
> wrote:
> >
> > > If ChatGPT could understand Python, it should not be too hard for it to
> >
> > It doesn't *understand* anything, it's monkeys on typewriters.
> >
> > --
> >   Alan Bourke
> >   alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
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Re: Virtual Fox Fest 2023 (May): Speakers, Sessions and Registration

[Eric Selje]

I'll be refreshing my VFP2C2 session from a few years back at VFF. If
anyone has examples of how they're using this awesome little utility to
access the Win32 API I'll share that with the crowd.

Eric

On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 11:23 AM Rick Schummer <
pro...@whitelightcomputing.com> wrote:

> Virtual Fox Fest 2023 (May) is a one-day event on Wednesday, May 10, 2023.
> We have some great speakers
> (https://virtualfoxfest.com/speakers.aspx) delivering great sessions (
> https://virtualfoxfest.com/sessions.aspx), live
> chatting during presentations, and getting to hang out virtually with new
> and old friends. This event will feature
> classic sessions (from previous conferences), updated for 2023, along with
> at least one brand new session. More details
> here: https://virtualfoxfest.com.
>
> Registration (https://virtualfoxfest.com/register.aspx) is open! Details,
> deadlines and cost are available on our Web
> site. You register for the conference here:
> https://geekgatherings.com/Registration. Don't procrastinate, get this
> done
> today!
>
> We're planning Southwest Fox in Arizona this October. We expect to
> announce our plans for a hybrid (in-person and
> virtual) fall conference some time in April.
>
> Rick
> White Light Computing, Inc.
>
> www.whitelightcomputing.com
>
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Re: [NF] Queries re: Python & Such...

[Eric Selje]

That sounds really interesting. If you can post a pic of something that
takes 5 days to 3D print I'd love to see it.

Eric

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 9:10 AM Ed Leafe  wrote:

> On Feb 15, 2023, at 19:01, Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:
> >
> > So, I know there is a Leafe mailing list for Python, as I just looked on
> the Leafe mailing lists website. But, sadly - unlike this one - it pretty
> much looks dead. Sad - since I was just beginning to get back into some
> Python programming again.
>
> I set up the ProPython and ProLinux lists at a time when there was a lot
> of discussion about things on those topics on this list, and some members
> felt that that stuff didn't belong on a VFP list. But as you've noticed,
> there really isn't a need for those lists anymore, and since it takes me
> more effort to close them than to leave them running, they're still there.
>
> But I still don't see anything wrong with asking Python questions here, as
> long as you add the [NF] in the subject, so that those members who only
> want VFP content can filter out such messages.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Using OpenAI like ChatGPT?

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You should ask ChatGPT if Visual Foxpro could make use of OpenAI
like ChatGPT.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 9:08 PM Man-wai Chang  wrote:

> I am just wondering whether Visual Foxpro could make use of OpenAI
> like ChatGPT :)
>
> I don't have any purpose nor objective in mind.
>
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Re: Howdy Folks

[Eric Selje]

That sounds like a better solution!

On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 5:00 AM Darren  wrote:

> I implemented this functionality a while back but did it with event binding
> to windows messaging on the directory - looking for new files (if I recall
> correctly). I found it to be much more reliable than timers and much more
> responsive. When the file is dropped in the directory the app knows about
> it
> almost immediately rather than waiting for the timer to come to the party.
>
> Just a thought.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Virgil
> Bierschwale
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2022 9:48 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: Howdy Folks
>
> thanks, that is probably what I will end up doing.
> just amazes me that I can't find the original tool.
> oh well, I noticed a lot of the old foxpro resource sites I used to use are
> no longer in existence.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 5:21 PM Paul H. Tarver  wrote:
>
> > I did something similar back in VFP6 where I added a VFP timer object to
> > the
> > main page and then we set the interval to 3-5 minutes (I can't really
> > remember exactly how long) and the timer method would fire and check to
> see
> > if a "SHUTDOWN" file  was found and if so, it would display a message to
> > the
> > user with a 90 second countdown to give them time to close the
> application.
> > If they didn't respond, the shutdown message form would request a Save
> > method on the parent form to save whatever was open at the time and then
> it
> > would close the application. I also checked for the existence of the
> > "SHUTDOWN" file when starting the application and if found, it would
> > provide
> > a user message and then shut down.
> >
> > The coding for that is old and antiquated so I'll not embarrass myself by
> > posting. But the logic was pretty much as stated. I guess my point is I
> > just
> > used the native VFP timer object to trigger the automated shutdown
> > everything.
> >
> > Paul H. Tarver
> > Tarver Program Consultants, Inc.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
> Virgil
> > Bierschwale
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 2:26 PM
> > To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> > Subject: Howdy Folks
> >
> > Been a long time.
> > I'm back maintaining a foxpro system
> > Back in the 90's I used a utility that would allow me to put a text file
> > named shutdown.txt in the root folder and it would force all users out.
> > Been googling and can't find it anymore.
> > Any of you remember it?
> >
> > Looking for a way to kick users out so I can reindex when necessary.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Virgil
> >
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Re: Howdy Folks

[Eric Selje]

Is this Visual FoxPro? I think the key would be to add a timer object to
your _VFP object that checks for the existence of that file and if it finds
it run the app's shutdown method.

Eric


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> Been a long time.
> I'm back maintaining a foxpro system
> Back in the 90's I used a utility that would allow me to put a text file
> named shutdown.txt in the root folder and it would force all users out.
> Been googling and can't find it anymore.
> Any of you remember it?
>
> Looking for a way to kick users out so I can reindex when necessary.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Virgil
>
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Re: dreaming of vfp and vscode integration

[Eric Selje]

Hi Jeff,

Did you check out Joel Leach's DevOps

session? It's not exactly on this topic but he incorporated external builds
into his DevOps and that part might be useful.

Eric

On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 9:16 AM Jeff Roberts  wrote:

> This morning I've been doing some refactoring (I use that term loosely) and
> listening to some guys talk in one of the rooms at Virtual Fox Fest. I'm
> splitting long lines and cleaning up comments, etc in vscode then switching
> over to VFP (Version 6 still I am ashamed to say) and compiling the prg to
> make sure I'm not getting any errors. I was thinking it would be convenient
> if I could make VFP compile the file I'm working on when I save it and then
> maybe have something look for ERR files to show up and send me a
> notification if it does. Does anyone have any experience doing something
> like this? I'd be willing to put some time into the tooling to do this.
> Seems like it is possible. I do realize I'd get a little more syntax
> checking with VFP6 and a lot more with VFP9, but I am more used to the text
> manipulation in vscode. Maybe I am just dreaming!
>
> --
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Re: fox.wikis.com

[Eric Selje]

FWIW, you can go to archive.org and type fox.wikis.com and it will show you
archived versions of the pages.

Eric

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 1:05 PM Man-wai Chang  wrote:

> Just set the whole website read-only? At least people can still read the
> wikis.
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:50 PM Jürgen Wondzinski 
> wrote:
> >
> > See here: https://twitter.com/rschummer/status/1568592684910088195
> >
> > That thread references stupid discussions similar to this one:
> > https://github.com/mattslay/GoFish/issues/14
>
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Re: ChilkatVFP 1.0 Released

[Eric Selje]

Congrats, Bill!  I even see it on the VFPx
 page!

Eric

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 4:35 AM Alan Bourke  wrote:

> Thanks Bill will come in very useful
>
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Re: VFPa oddness

[Eric Selje]

It's seems clear to me that this is a roaming profile related issue, though
that folder name isn't quite the same. And usually what seems clear to me
is the wrong answer so...take it with a grain of salt.

Eric

On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 12:50 PM Tracy Pearson 
wrote:

> Here's the scenario
> I use the third party Crystal Reports 8.5 in my software.
> Ver 12 of our software works on Server 2019 without a problem.
> Ver 14 of our software does not.
> When printing or exporting a report that can be viewed it is looking for
> files that are installed and hardcoded by Crystal  Reports to be in the
> C:\Windows\Crystal folder.
> In VFP9 this works.
> In VFPA this is actually looking for these files in
> C:\Users\\WINDOWS\Crystal.
> The server has RDS installed and both The VFP9 and VFPA versions of our
> software was installed the same way.
> (RDS - Remote Desktop Services {the new Terminal Services})
>
> Is this a Roaming profile issue (though their IT person states this isn't a
> Roaming profile)?
> Is there another thought I can research?
> I'm going to get my IT person to setup a private area for us to test this
> and hopefully reproduce the problem.
>
>
> Any (and all sarcastic and/or funny) comments welcome. It's been a little
> quiet here lately.
>
> Thank you,
> Tracy
>
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Re: Need Help - Foxpro & Chilkat & Rest API

[Eric Selje]

It sure does! Thanks for volunteering to do that, Bill! :)

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 7:03 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> that sounds like a great future Virtual FoxFest session, Bill!
> hint hint
>
>
> On 8/1/2022 5:01 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:
> > Paul,
> >
> > Well, I can report that the wrapper coding was finished over the weekend.
> >
> > There's still lots to do. There's about a dozen classes to review and a
> > bunch of how-to-use documentation to write. But I've finally got my arms
> > fully around it. Took 7 months to put together.
> >
> > It'sbig. The VCT is approaching 21MB, of which a vast majority is
> > Chilkat's own documentation.
> >
> > I'd say "soon" but my development laptop is getting repaired and who
> knows
> > what'll happen there, etc. I'd guess it's about a month away.
> >
> > Bill Anderson
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 11:44 AM Paul H. Tarver  wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds very interesting. Do you have some ETA in mind for
> selling/releasing
> >> the tool?
> >>
> >> Paul H. Tarver
> >> Tarver Program Consultants, Inc.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
> Bill
> >> Anderson
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2022 7:05 PM
> >> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> >> Subject: Re: Need Help - Foxpro & Chilkat & Rest API
> >>
>  A Foxpro wrapper would be too much to hope for, but that would be even
> >> better if it is exists.<<
> >>
> >> It exists, you haven't seen it yet. I'm working on a VFP tool that wraps
> >> *everything* in the Chilkat library. Over halfway done. There's 103
> classes
> >> (1 deprecated) and I've wrapped maybe 61 of them?
> >>
> >> I too experienced *exactly* what you experienced re: Chilkat. The
> upside -
> >> They do document well. The downside? They document well. It's all on one
> >> web page per class and hard to see the big picture. To their defense, I
> >> don't necessarily have a better way to display such information on the
> web.
> >>
> >> Rest is one of the classes I've wrapped, FWIW but that may not
> necessarily
> >> help clarify your issue. If you think it might, just send me an email -
> or
> >> I'll take a look at it.
> >>
> >> If I complete the wrapping I may do something similar with their example
> >> code.
> >>
> >> Bill Anderson
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 10:46 AM Paul H. Tarver  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have a spec project where I need to build an application using a REST
> >> API
> >>> to extract data elements and then post those data elements to a
> different
> >>> system. The API requires me to get a token upfront (which has a
> >> five-minute
> >>> life span), issue my requests with the token and then get the results
> >> back
> >>> in a JSON or XML format. Based on recommendations I received at the
> >> Virtual
> >>> FoxFest earlier this year, I purchased the Chilkat tools and dove into
> >> what
> >>> has turned out to be the deep end without knowing how to swim. The
> >>> documentation at Chilkat while extensive is almost too extensive for me
> >> to
> >>> understand exactly what I've got to do to make this work.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> So far, I've been unable to even get a token back. All I seem to be
> able
> >> to
> >>> get back from the server is
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 400 Bad request
> >>>
> >>> Your browser sent an invalid request.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That response has been less than helpful. I've reached out to the API
> >>> Provider but their answers are focused on requests issued after I get
> the
> >>> token.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My question is this: Does anyone have any sample Foxpro code they use
> for
> >> a
> >>> similar process (Request a token, then make requests with the token)
> >> using
> >>> the Chilkat tools they would be willing to share? A Foxpro wrapper
> would
> >> be
> >>> too much to hope for, but that would be even better if it is exists.
> I've
> >>> got to get to a point where I'm beyond this initial stage to prove I
> can
> >>> make this work.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Help! I know this is possible, but so far, I'm not making much headway.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Paul H. Tarver
> >>> Tarver Program Consultants, Inc.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: Another GDIPlusX question

[Eric Selje]

"RubberDucking"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:13 AM Alan Bourke  wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Jul 2022, at 11:49 PM, Paul Newton wrote:
> > Isn't it marvellous how simply posting a question to this esteemed list
> > somehow kicks ones brain into gear ... albeit only after posting
>
> I call it the Stackoverflow effect.
>
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IE's death

[Eric Selje]

Did the disabling of IE yesterday have any effect on apps using the ActiveX
Browser control?

Eric


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Re: Problem setting ActiveX control property (Folderview and Fileview controls)

[Eric Selje]

What happens if you try
 MyFileView.ColumnWidth("Name",0) = MyFileView.ColumnWidth("Name",0)

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 12:17 PM Paul Newton 
wrote:

> Thanks Tracy
>
> It's worth a try  ... I tried  ... and still get "Function argument
> value,type or count is invalid"
>
> Paul
>
> On 02/06/2022 17:39, Tracy Pearson wrote:
> > Have you tried to use the STORE command
> >  STORE 240 TO MyFileView.ColumnWidth("Name",0)
> >
> > It might not work either.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Paul
> > Newton
> > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2022 12:20 PM
> > To:profoxt...@leafe.com
> > Subject: Re: Problem setting ActiveX control property (Folderview and
> > Fileview controls)
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion Eric but the first column is in fact 0 because
> > the following
> >
> > ? MyFileView.ColumnWidth("Name",0) gives the correct result for the
> > width of the first column Paul
> >
> > On 02/06/2022 16:59, Eric Selje wrote:
> >> It's interesting that the VB syntax has the first column as 0 when VB
> is a
> >> one-based array language. Have you tried a 1 there instead for the 2nd
> >> parameter?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 7:55 PM Paul Newton
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> It's a few years old now, but I have the Sky Software Shell Megapack
> >>> suite (V8) which contains the two (ActiveX) controls above as well as a
> >>> drive combo control.  I have used these successfully in the past but
> >>> have run into a problem.  The Fileview control has a Public Read-Write
> >>> Property ColumnWidth which, according to the help file, "Gets/Sets the
> >>> width of the column in pixels".  The VB syntax in the help is:
> >>>
> >>> Public Property ColumnWidth(ByVal ColumnName As String, ByVal
> >>> ColumnIndex As Long) As Long
> >>>
> >>> ? MyFileView.ColumnWidth("Name",0) and ?
> >>> MyFileView.Object.ColumnWidth("Name",0)  both work fine and return 120.
> >>>
> >>> Trying to set the column width as follows
> >>>
> >>> MyFileView.ColumnWidth("Name",0) = 240 gives "Function argument value,
> >>> type or count is invalid"
> >>>
> >>> and MyFileView.Object.ColumnWidth("Name",0) = 240 gives "Syntax error"
> >>>
> >>> Am I missing something (I have checked and there is no method or event
> >>> on the control which references ColumnWidth).
> >>>
> >>> Alternatively, can anybody suggest affordable (aka cheap, preferably
> >>> free) alternatives to these controls which are designed to closely
> mimic
> >>> the behaviour of Windows Explorer?
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks
> >>>
> >>> Paul Newton
> >>>
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Re: Problem setting ActiveX control property (Folderview and Fileview controls)

[Eric Selje]

It's interesting that the VB syntax has the first column as 0 when VB is a
one-based array language. Have you tried a 1 there instead for the 2nd
parameter?

On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 7:55 PM Paul Newton 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> It's a few years old now, but I have the Sky Software Shell Megapack
> suite (V8) which contains the two (ActiveX) controls above as well as a
> drive combo control.  I have used these successfully in the past but
> have run into a problem.  The Fileview control has a Public Read-Write
> Property ColumnWidth which, according to the help file, "Gets/Sets the
> width of the column in pixels".  The VB syntax in the help is:
>
> Public Property ColumnWidth(ByVal ColumnName As String, ByVal
> ColumnIndex As Long) As Long
>
> ? MyFileView.ColumnWidth("Name",0) and ?
> MyFileView.Object.ColumnWidth("Name",0)  both work fine and return 120.
>
> Trying to set the column width as follows
>
> MyFileView.ColumnWidth("Name",0) = 240 gives "Function argument value,
> type or count is invalid"
>
> and MyFileView.Object.ColumnWidth("Name",0) = 240 gives "Syntax error"
>
> Am I missing something (I have checked and there is no method or event
> on the control which references ColumnWidth).
>
> Alternatively, can anybody suggest affordable (aka cheap, preferably
> free) alternatives to these controls which are designed to closely mimic
> the behaviour of Windows Explorer?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Paul Newton
>
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Re: Foxfest Tomorrow.... Help

[Eric Selje]

"See" you there!

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:57 AM Dave Crozier  wrote:

> Ajit,
> Thanks to your email I trawled back through the thousands of Gmail spam
> entries and finally found a link to register so all is good!
>
> See anyone who is attending tomorrow!
>
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> Update2 & Update3 emails had landed up there.
>
> Ajit
>
> > I do not seem to have received any login info regarding getting access
> to the conference tomorrow desp[ite having received registration info and
> payment confirmation from Rick and the gang.
> >
> > Has anyone else had this issue as I don’t want to miss the party
> tomorrow.
> >
> >
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Re: [NF] Remember when Google's motto was "Don't be Evil"?

[Eric Selje]

I tried using Brave but its inability to play picture-in-picture videos
took me back to FireFox.

If you haven't yet, John Oliver just did a great bit on Data Brokers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqn3gR1WTcA

Eric


On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 3:11 AM Alan Bourke  wrote:

> I use Firefox exclusively and Vivaldi on phone.
>
> --
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>   alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
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Re:

[Eric Selje]

CLOSE ALL
CLEAR ALL
QUIT

Enjoy your retirement!

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 2:32 PM Malcolm Greene  wrote:

> Dave!
>
> > So I won’t disappear completely as they say!
>
> Congrats on your well earned retirement. I haven't touched VFP in over a
> decade, yet still stop by to see how the group is doing. Hope to continue
> to see your around!
>
> > It is no good having plans if you never reach the age to put them into
> practice.
>
> #wisdom
>
> Cheers,
> Malcolm
>
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Re: Problem installing Thor

[Eric Selje]

Paul, I'd direct this question to foxprot...@googlegroups.com for best
results.

Eric


On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 8:43 AM  wrote:

> Hi all
>
>
>
> I have followed the install instructions and I have Thor.APP and the
> "Source" folder in Home().\Tools\Thor.
>
>
>
> When I run Thor.App it complains that MenuDefintions.FPT is missing or
> invalid BUT instead of referring to
>
> .Tools\Thor\Source\Tables (where I can open the table without a problem) it
> is expecting to find MenuDefinitions in .Tools\Thor\Thor\Tables
>
>
>
> As usual, any help will be much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Paul Newton
>
>
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Re: Transparent commandbuttons in Windows 11

[Eric Selje]

Pics?

On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 2:42 PM Tracy Pearson  wrote:

> Nothing fancy, it appears to come for free when running on Windows 11.
>
> If you have a button hiding something under it, it might show up through
> it.
>
> Tracy
>
>
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Re: [NF] Beyond Quickbooks

[Eric Selje]

I've got a copy of SBT they could use. ;)

On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 10:20 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> Jeff Johnson's old client has contacted me asking about a replacement
> for their QuickBooks because they've basically outgrown it.  (Doesn't
> help that they've got 18 years of data in there and their trucking
> business has boomed since the pandemic, and I'm pretty sure they haven't
> closed out or group totally or whatever you call it for past time
> segments.)
>
> Suggestions?
>
> tia!
>
> --
> Michael J. Babcock, MCP
> Fox/VFP dev since 1997
> Developer of FabNet estimating software - mbsoftwaresolutions.com
>
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Re: Anyone on here involved with Virtual Fox Fest?

[Eric Selje]

That link works ok for me.

On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 8:38 AM Tracy Pearson  wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> Rick Schummer would be the better person to answer. I heard at the
> conference they are considering having a one day Virtual FoxFest in the
> spring and the live SWFox conference in the fall of 2021.
>
> Hopefully Rick will confirm or deny.
>
> Tracy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Chris
> Davis
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 8:54 AM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Anyone on here involved with Virtual Fox Fest?
>
> Any idea if this link will be made available again?
>
> https://virtualfoxfest.com/2020/
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris.
>
>
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Re: Reprots Field Properties override options

[Eric Selje]

/ 13" 4K /  There's the problem.

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 4:46 PM Tracy Pearson  wrote:

> I have gotten the latest build from VFPX. The dialogs are not increasing
> the
> size of the fonts as I need.
> Sometimes I forget that the app I maintain has the Query Manager in it that
> customers use for custom reports.
> A customer reported that they have a 13" 4K laptop that custom reports is
> unusable.
> So my task is working with this.
> I'm looking at integrating the vfp_dpi_aware class I have shared in to it
> currently.
> Though it will take some time for me to do a pull request.
>
> Tracy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> Schummer
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 5:35 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: Reprots Field Properties override options
>
> Joel Leach made some changes to deal with DPI issues in the Report Apps. I
> don't recall the specifics, but they are
> available already on VFPX.org
>
> Rick
> White Light Computing, Inc.
>
> www.whitelightcomputing.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson
> Sent: November 15, 2021 04:10 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: Reprots Field Properties override options
>
> xSource - contains the ReportBuilder project.
> These dialogs are part of the APP and can be adjusted.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Tracy
> Pearson
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:31 AM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Reprots Field Properties override options
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Is there something someone has already done to override the Fox Pro reports
> Field Properties and Page Setup dialogs?
>
> When the application is configured to be DPI Aware, these will not bitmap
> scale and become fuzzy. They remain small and
> unreadable.
>
> There are other issues with the report writer as well that may need to
> addressed in VFP A.
>
> Thank you,
> Tracy
>
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Re: looking docs or code for reading and exporting vfp menus that I can understand

[Eric Selje]

I remember using the Project Documenting Machine a while back and it gave
me some pretty comprehensive artifacts. Perhaps it can help?

http://gorila.netlab.cz/pdm.html

Eric


On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:08 AM Jeff Roberts  wrote:

> I've inherited a couple of fairly large VFP apps and I have been trying to
> read the menu files and build some documentation automatically. I am more
> or less wanting to process a mnx file to build either a tree-view type
> document or just a plain text list that includes how to get to the menu
> item and what command it runs. I have looked at the code for genmenu,
> genmenux, the oop menu project on vfpx, as well as a few snippets I found
> online but I am still very confused on what the records and fields mean. I
> didn't think I was too bad of a FoxPro programmer but trying to trace the
> code in genmenu makes me feel pretty dumb honestly. I can get at the prompt
> and the command  it runs without too much issue but I am struggling trying
> to document the hierarchy (from the main menu to an option on a submenu or
> sub-submenu. Could anyone point me to some documentation for foxpro menu
> tables, or some fairly simple code I could read to try and wrap my head
> around how it works? Thanks!
>
> --
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Re: FP Advisors?

[Eric Selje]

Jeff, I remember thinking I was a pretty good FoxPro programmer. And then I
saw a JFAST demo. Wow.

On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 3:08 PM Jeff Roberts  wrote:

> I'm not sure if this is Advisor or one of the other Foxpro magazines but
> I'd like to get a copy of the old JFast article. I can only find this one
> in German:
>
> http://portal.dfpug.de/dfpug/Dokumente/Loseblattsammlung/FoxX%2011.0/11-06-29%20Fallstudie%20JFAST.pdf
> It would be great to have searchable access to all that online but I am
> sure there are legal issues and no telling what is involved in getting all
> that into an online archive.
>
> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 11:49 AM Jürgen Wondzinski 
> wrote:
>
> > Yes of course! I still have all literature around FoxPor available in my
> > shelf.
> > FoxPro Advisor is available here on paper as well as PDF.
> > I looked up the 93-10 PDF, and yes: there's a one-page about JKEY.
> > If Peter sends me an email, then I'll forward it to him
> >
> > wOOdy
> >
> >
> >
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: ProFox  Im Auftrag von Eric Selje
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Oktober 2021 18:07
> > An: ProFox Email List 
> > Betreff: FP Advisors?
> >
> > Anybody still have their FP Advisors around? Peter Diotte is looking for
> an
> > article he wrote on JKey in the Oct '93 edition. Are these available
> > online?
> >
> > Eric
> >
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Re: FP Advisors?

[Eric Selje]

wOOdy, if you can scan that page and send it to peter.dio...@gmail.com I'm
sure he'd very much appreciate it!

We could create a "FoxLeaks" site and do a dump of all the archives there
anonymously ;)


Thanks!


On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 11:48 AM Jürgen Wondzinski 
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> Yes of course! I still have all literature around FoxPor available in my
> shelf.
> FoxPro Advisor is available here on paper as well as PDF.
> I looked up the 93-10 PDF, and yes: there's a one-page about JKEY.
> If Peter sends me an email, then I'll forward it to him
>
> wOOdy
>
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: ProFox  Im Auftrag von Eric Selje
> Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Oktober 2021 18:07
> An: ProFox Email List 
> Betreff: FP Advisors?
>
> Anybody still have their FP Advisors around? Peter Diotte is looking for an
> article he wrote on JKey in the Oct '93 edition. Are these available
> online?
>
> Eric
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FP Advisors?

[Eric Selje]

Anybody still have their FP Advisors around? Peter Diotte is looking for an
article he wrote on JKey in the Oct '93 edition. Are these available online?

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Re: Line by Line Relationship in Two Databases

[Eric Selje]

I think that's a Paradox database file, no?

It's been so long, and I had a vague memory of how to do this with a browse
and set relation to. Thanks for the reminder, wOOdy.

E


On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 9:18 AM Jürgen Wondzinski 
wrote:

> What's a PDB file?
> Assuming that you meant DBF, and that Data to Display is a One-to-Many
> relation and that the master record in data has a unique Item per record
> and that Display carries that Item on all relevant records..
>
> USE DataIN 0 ORDER Date
> USE Display IN 0 ORDER item
>
> SELECT Display
> BROWS LAST NOWAIT
>
> SELECT Data
> SET RELATION TO Item INTO Display
> BROWS LAST NOWAIT
>
> Now just position both windows side by side, scroll through Data and see
> Display refresh accordingly.
>
>
>
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Re: AW: "Eric Rapaport" at Microsoft

[Eric Selje]

He probably wrote the Rushmore algorithm, in a coffee-fueled morning
frenzy, before moving on to writing screenplays and scores.

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 11:47 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> On 9/20/2021 1:50 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
> > Wouldn't he then be either mentioned on http://www.foxprohistory.org/
> or in
> > the FoxTales book?
> >
> > wOOdy
>
> Well his part was obviously TOP SECRET so he couldn't be officially
> named.  LOL
>
>
> --
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> Fox/VFP dev since 1997
> Developer of FabNet estimating software - mbsoftwaresolutions.com
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"Eric Rapaport" at Microsoft

[Eric Selje]

In my current security role I get all the strange emails forwarded to me,
and this one I got today took the cake because it didn't really seem to
have a purpose. It was from an "Eric Rapaport", former CIA. It listed off
all his credentials, which were many. But there was no ask to the email at
all. Very weird.

A quick Google shows this guy has been spamming for years. This result in
particular  is
interesting because he claims to have been one of the authors of Visual
FoxPro 3.0 while he worked at Microsoft.

Anyone ever heard of this guy? Get spammed by this guy?

What's your take?

Eric (not Rapaport) Selje


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Re: VFP equivalent of SQL Server 'script table'

[Eric Selje]

Wasn't there a Thor tool that did that?

On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 8:13 AM Vince Teachout  wrote:

> I've got a tool that I wrote years ago that takes an open table and
> scripts it to a VFP Create Table or an MSSQL Create table.
>
> Also one that creates SQL Select statements for an open alias and Insert
> statements (That last one is buggy)
>
> If you're interested, I could send you the code.
>
> On 09/02/21 7:05 AM, Alan Bourke wrote:
> > In MSSQL you can script a table out to a Transact SQL script, including
> all CREATE statements and multiple INSERT statements for the data.
> >
> > Is there a VFP equivalent that anyone knows of? This is for including
> test data in source control, it's better to have a PRG that can generate
> the database than adding binary DBF files etc.
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [NF] - Is Bigger Always Better When It Comes To Your Monitors? :)

[Eric Selje]

Windows 11 has features built-in that will facilitate subdividing monitors
into regions to make everything easier to manage. They might have even
squeaked into Win 10.

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-11/252475/windows-11-feature-focus-snap-layouts

Eric

On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:32 AM Michael Oke, II  wrote:

> When it arrives, a single 43 inch Dell running at 3840x2160 replacing 3
> monitors.  A 29-inch over a 34-inch ultra wide with another 29 turned
> portrait for system monitoring.  1920x1080 over 2560x1080 with another
> 1080x1920 on the side.  I am looking forward to the simplification on my
> desk along with the ability to sub-divide the space on the new monitor.
>
> -
> Michael Oke, II
> oke...@gmail.com
> 661-349-6221
> -
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 9:08 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
> mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
>
> > Your docking station should take care of any port issues...assuming
> > you're using a laptop?
> >
> > On 8/24/2021 3:04 PM, John Weller wrote:
> > > I'd say go for it - you can't have too much screen real estate!  Don't
> > know
> > > about Display Ports, no experience.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > John Weller
> > > 07976 393631
> > >
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Paul H.
> > >> Tarver
> > >> Sent: 24 August 2021 19:59
> > >> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> > >> Subject: [NF] - Is Bigger Always Better When It Comes To Your
> Monitors?
> > :)
> > >>
> > >> I've been using dual monitors for many years now, but I've been
> working
> > > with
> > >> monitors with two different layouts. Both monitors were 22" wide but
> the
> > >> primary monitor was more square format whereas my secondary monitor
> has
> > >> more of a wide screen format.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Apparently, after I started talking about upgrading my gear, the main
> > > monitor
> > >> heard me, got mad and decided to give up the ghost yesterday.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Fortunately, I had a used 27" monitor on hand which I stuck in place
> > >> temporarily and the size and brightness and contrast have been a huge
> > >> improvement. In fact, this used monitor is making my secondary monitor
> > > look
> > >> like crap.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> So, my question is this: What size monitors are you using for
> > development
> > > and
> > >> how many? The new computer I've purchased has 2 Display Ports, 1 HDMI
> > and
> > >> 1 VGA. So I'm considering getting two matching monitors which support
> > > Display
> > >> Ports. Any comments, thoughts or suggestions about Display Ports?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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Re: SweetPotatosoftware.com

[Eric Selje]

I felt the same way about meeting you Matt :)

E

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 10:18 AM Matt Slay 
wrote:

> I wish Craig would give a shout-out to the VFP community in some way,
> let us know what he's up to these day.  I'm betting probably keeps in
> contact with some of his closer relationships (which I get), but sure
> seems to have fully withdrawn from the public VFP community in any way
> that I've seen. Indeed, he has that right, and I get that.  I'm just
> saying it would be awesome to have him chiming in on stuff.
>
> I still remember meeting him for first time in person back in 2008 at my
> first SWFox conference. Man, I swear it was like meeting royalty or
> something. I was totally blown away an mystified in some way by meeting
> him. (No offense to all the other cool ppl I met for the first time as
> well).
>
> *Matt Slay*
>
>
>
> On 8/24/2021 10:09 AM, Eric Selje wrote:
> > Maybe your browser isn't switching over to the https version
> automatically.
> > Try explicitly going to https://www.sweetpotatosoftware.com/
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 9:42 AM John Weller 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I've just tried and timed out.  I wonder if it is an issue contacting it
> >> from UK?
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> John Weller
> >> 07976 393631
> >>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Vince
> >>> Teachout
> >>> Sent: 24 August 2021 13:31
> >>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> >>> Subject: Re: SweetPotatosoftware.com
> >>>
> >>> Went right in, no problem.  It looks nice. I wonder if he updated it?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 08/24/21 7:25 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:
> >>>> Is anyone else having difficulty trying to access Craig’s site?
> >>>>
> >>>> http://sweetpotatosoftware.com
> >>>>
> >>>> Is it still live?
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
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Re: SweetPotatosoftware.com

[Eric Selje]

Maybe your browser isn't switching over to the https version automatically.
Try explicitly going to https://www.sweetpotatosoftware.com/

Eric

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 9:42 AM John Weller  wrote:

> I've just tried and timed out.  I wonder if it is an issue contacting it
> from UK?
>
> John
>
> John Weller
> 07976 393631
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Vince
> > Teachout
> > Sent: 24 August 2021 13:31
> > To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> > Subject: Re: SweetPotatosoftware.com
> >
> > Went right in, no problem.  It looks nice. I wonder if he updated it?
> >
> >
> > On 08/24/21 7:25 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:
> > > Is anyone else having difficulty trying to access Craig’s site?
> > >
> > > http://sweetpotatosoftware.com
> > >
> > > Is it still live?
> > >
>
>
>
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Re: Retire the CSV?

[Eric Selje]

He's right. And it won't happen.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 8:43 AM Garrett Fitzgerald 
wrote:

> Rght
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:25 AM Stephen Russell 
> wrote:
>
> > https://www.bitsondisk.com/writing/2021/retire-the-csv/
> >
> > It's so simple they say.
> >
> > --
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> > Sr. Analyst
> > Ring Container Technology
> > Oakland TN
> >
> > 901.246-0159 cell
> >
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Re: [NF] Winforms

[Eric Selje]

That is a shortfall, but WPF does a lot of things that we would LOVE to
have in VFP (e.g. CSS llke Styles, much better responsiveness than our
anchors, etc.)

Eric

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:26 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> Wow...I see you created that in 2019.  I can't believe what I saw...I'd
> have expected it to work much better than that.  VFP has been
> off-support officially for 4+ years by that time yet the "old girl"
> still looks better for designers given this obvious shortfall.
>
>
> On 8/20/2021 8:44 AM, Matt Slay wrote:
> > Here’s a YouTube video I made about WinForms UserControl and how it does
> not work like our beloved FoxPro does.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/gWONvlLSq3U
> >
> >
> >
> > Matt Slay
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Aug 20, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Alan Bourke 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 18 Aug 2021, at 5:34 PM, Graham Brown wrote:
> >>
> >>> What am I missing?
> >> You're not missing anything. Visual inheritance in the Windows Forms
> designer does not work like VFP, Delphi or whatever. It didn't in 2002,
> and on inspection still doesn't now.
> >>
> >> This is how you do it with a UserControl.
> >>
> >>
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/desktop/winforms/controls/creating-a-wf-control-design-time-features?view=netframeworkdesktop-4.8
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>   Alan Bourke
> >>   alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
> >>
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Re: Virtual Fox Fest 2021 (October): Speakers, Sessions, and Registration

[Eric Selje]

Great lineup! Sign me up!

On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 5:40 PM Tracy Pearson  wrote:

> It's now officially in the public view.
> And you said something before me.
> I'm looking forward to the conference.
>
> Tracy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
> Richard Kaye
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 6:18 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: Virtual Fox Fest 2021 (October): Speakers, Sessions, and
> Registration
>
> I see Tracy has signed up again as a speaker.  Representing ProFox...
>
> --
>
> rk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Rick Schummer
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 5:13 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Virtual Fox Fest 2021 (October): Speakers, Sessions, and
> Registration
>
> Speakers and sessions for Virtual Fox Fest 2021 (October) have been
> announced, and registration is open!
> https://www.virtualfoxfest.com
>
> Rick
> White Light Computing, Inc.
>
> www.whitelightcomputing.com
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Re: Builders and the VFP Undo function

[Eric Selje]

LOL!

On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 1:11 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> On 6/18/2021 11:50 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote:
> >> From: Jean Laeremans 
> >> Builders around here are french. They don't do let alone undo  ;)
> > My vote for funniest comment on Profox this year!
> >
> > Malcolm
>
>
> + 1!!
>
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Re: SOLVED: Bizarre Desktop write problem driving me mad

[Eric Selje]

On that note, here's a reminder that if the product is free, then your data
is the product:

https://www.wizcase.com/antivirus/avg/

(TL;DR: They were selling your browsing data)

Eric

On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 2:15 PM Vince Teachout  wrote:

> A few months back I asked for help trying to figure out why my program
> would not let me save to my desktop (Original post below). I got a lot
> of suggestions, and tried a lot of things, but ultimately was unable to
> figure it out.
>
> A while ago, I did another Google out of boredom, and saw a suggestion I
> didn't see before.  I really didn't think it would work, but figured I
> had nothing to lose.
>
> I turned off my (Avast) anti-virus, and was able to write to the
> desktop.   I added an exception for the folder the program lives in, and
> it's worked fine since.  :-|
>
> Turns out Avast (and I guess AVG, since that's what the OP had) added a
> "security feature" sometime last year without widely announcing it.
> Since it affects some programs, and not others, it took a while to spot
> it, and there was no clue as to what was causing it.
>
> Problem solved.
>
>
> - ORIGINAL POST
> ---
> Granted, it's a short drive, but
>
> This is making me nuts.  I've paraphrased and simplified the problem to
> the gist of it:
>
> My program does COPY FILE (cInputFile) to (cOutputFile).  This works
> great. EXCEPT if the output file is on my desktop, then I get the message:
> "Cannot create file c:\users\me\desktop\file.ext."
>
> It doesn't matter that I'm an Admin user, and it doesn't matter if I
> also right-click and run the program as admin.
>
> HOWEVER, if I'm in VFP and compile it with the "run after compile"
> option, it will compile, run, and perfectly happily copy to the desktop
> with no error.
>
> Here are the rights I have on the Desktop: (You can tell I kept trying
> different things)
> The following users are on security, and each has full rights:
> everyone
> System
> my login
> machine\users
> machine\administrators
> I also have the owner as my login in Advance/change owner
>
> Thankfully, the program works fine on my clients computer, but this is
> making me nuts.  I'd appreciate a gentle tap with a clue-by-four.  Thank
> you!
>
>
>
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Re: SP2 Download?

[Eric Selje]

The Copy and /RegServer trick seems to work perfectly. Thanks!

On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 12:25 PM Eric Selje  wrote:

> Ok, maybe I spoke too soon.
>
> The page that we all agree it *should* be downloadable from,
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/visualstudio/foxpro/mt490121(v=msdn.10)?redirectedfrom=MSDN,
> has a link for downloading SP2 but that takes you to another page that does
> not actually download.
>
> I'm going to try wOOdy's trick, mentioned in his blog
> <http://woody-prolib.blogspot.com/2018/12/how-to.html>, of copying my
> existing folder over entirely and then running VFP /REGSERVER to see how
> that goes...
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 9:20 AM Eric Selje  wrote:
>
>> Thanks! It's frustrating that I couldn't just Google "Download VFP SP2"
>> and find your page which I *know* I've seen before. Oh...I'll bookmark
>> it like I used to do before Google could read my mind.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 2:22 AM Jürgen Wondzinski 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eric,
>>>
>>> nothing frustrating at all. Just read here:
>>> http://woody-prolib.blogspot.com/2018/12/how-to.html
>>>
>>> wOOdy
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>> Von: ProFox  Im Auftrag von Eric Selje
>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juni 2021 02:43
>>> An: ProFox Email List 
>>> Betreff: SP2 Download?
>>>
>>> Ok, where does one get Service Pack 2 these days? Also, do I need SP1
>>> first?
>>> This is frustrating.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
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Re: SP2 Download?

[Eric Selje]

Ok, maybe I spoke too soon.

The page that we all agree it *should* be downloadable from,
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/visualstudio/foxpro/mt490121(v=msdn.10)?redirectedfrom=MSDN,
has a link for downloading SP2 but that takes you to another page that does
not actually download.

I'm going to try wOOdy's trick, mentioned in his blog
<http://woody-prolib.blogspot.com/2018/12/how-to.html>, of copying my
existing folder over entirely and then running VFP /REGSERVER to see how
that goes...

Eric


On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 9:20 AM Eric Selje  wrote:

> Thanks! It's frustrating that I couldn't just Google "Download VFP SP2"
> and find your page which I *know* I've seen before. Oh...I'll bookmark it
> like I used to do before Google could read my mind.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 2:22 AM Jürgen Wondzinski 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> nothing frustrating at all. Just read here:
>> http://woody-prolib.blogspot.com/2018/12/how-to.html
>>
>> wOOdy
>>
>>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: ProFox  Im Auftrag von Eric Selje
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juni 2021 02:43
>> An: ProFox Email List 
>> Betreff: SP2 Download?
>>
>> Ok, where does one get Service Pack 2 these days? Also, do I need SP1
>> first?
>> This is frustrating.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
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Re: SP2 Download?

[Eric Selje]

Thanks! It's frustrating that I couldn't just Google "Download VFP SP2" and
find your page which I *know* I've seen before. Oh...I'll bookmark it like
I used to do before Google could read my mind.

Eric


On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 2:22 AM Jürgen Wondzinski 
wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> nothing frustrating at all. Just read here:
> http://woody-prolib.blogspot.com/2018/12/how-to.html
>
> wOOdy
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: ProFox  Im Auftrag von Eric Selje
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juni 2021 02:43
> An: ProFox Email List 
> Betreff: SP2 Download?
>
> Ok, where does one get Service Pack 2 these days? Also, do I need SP1
> first?
> This is frustrating.
>
> Eric
>
>
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SP2 Download?

[Eric Selje]

Ok, where does one get Service Pack 2 these days? Also, do I need SP1
first? This is frustrating.

Eric


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Re: Form designer rules?

[Eric Selje]

I know you're all probably tired of hearing this drumbeat, but having SQL
statements in UI controls is a bad idea. Do what you can to separate that
out.

Eric

On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 11:07 PM Tracy Pearson 
wrote:

> Combobox1 selects into a cursor. Use that cursor name in the where clause
> of the select statement in combobox2.
> In the valid event of combobox1, call the requery method of combobox2.
> The initial queries are processed after the form load event. They only
> requery when told to.
>
> HTH
> Tracy
>
> On May 23, 2021 11:26:11 PM EDT, Joe Yoder  wrote:
> >My data is in a table called labels with three fields, space, location,
> >and
> >label.
> >I thought my problems were solved but now when I setup my second combo
> >box
> >with the row source set to
> >
> >select location distinct from labels where  labels.space =
> >thisform.combo1.value = labels.space into cursor T2
> >I get the message "Thisform can only be used within a method"
> >
> >When I set  the row source to
> >
> >select location distinct from labels where  labels.space =combo1.value
> >=
> >labels.space into cursor T2
> >I get the message "Ali8as Combo1 is not found."
> >
> >When I put the SQL code in the load or init methods of the form it
> >works
> >without error so the code is okay
> >Is there a different syntax needed here or do I need to handle this in
> >a
> >different way?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 7:23 PM Joe Yoder  wrote:
> >
> >> Tracy,
> >>
> >> I did another test form using days of the week like yours.  I still
> >got
> >> the error.  Then I removed the quotes around the CSL statement and it
> >> worked!  Somewhere in my surfing I had read that the quotes were
> >required
> >> but that is apparently incorrect.
> >>
> >> More details:
> >>
> >>1. When does the SQL get executed?  When it is first loaded?  Each
> >>time the control gets focus? When requiry is called?
> >>2. Are all cursors created this way in scope for the entire VFP
> >system?
> >>3. Is there a simple way to see the VFP code generated by the Form
> >>Designer to understand how it works?
> >>
> >> Thanks so much,
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 11:41 AM Tracy Pearson
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Joe,
> >>>
> >>> Those settings are working for me in my quick test.
> >>> Does the SQL statement you have in the RowSource work in code?
> >>>
> >>> As a test I built a cursor with the days of the week in it in the
> >Load
> >>> event
> >>> of a form.
> >>> CREATE CURSOR ComboBoxData (id i, displaytext c(30))
> >>> I set the ComboBox.RowSource to
> >>> select displaytext from comboboxdata into cursor t1
> >>> and set the ComboBox.RowSourceType = 3 && SQL statement
> >>>
> >>> To be consistent with your select statement I added the "distinct"
> >clause
> >>> and it still works.
> >>>
> >>> I tested in VFP 9 SP2 Hotfix 3
> >>>
> >>> HTH,
> >>> Tracy
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
> >Joe
> >>> Yoder
> >>> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2021 3:04 PM
> >>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> >>> Subject: Form designer rules?
> >>>
> >>> I want to use an sql select statement as the row source for a combo
> >box..
> >>>
> >>>-  When I set the row source type to 3-SQL and enter the row
> >source as
> >>>"select space distinct from map into cursor T1" attempting to run
> >the
> >>> form
> >>>results in "Program error Unrecognized command verb"
> >>>- If I set the row source type to 2-Alias and the row source to
> >T1 and
> >>>put the SQL select statement into the init method of the control
> >the
> >>> Combo
> >>>box populates properly.
> >>>
> >>> I would have expected that the system would be smart enough to run
> >the SQl
> >>> statement before trying to use it's output.  Is there something else
> >I
> >>> need
> >>> to call perhaps in the form init method?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance,
> >>>
> >>> Joe
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: VFP9 (and VFPA) on Windows 10 -- wish Mr. Chen would fix the visual bugs!

[Eric Selje]

If you haven't seen it, check out my VFPA Whitepaper
<http://saltydogllc.com/wp-content/uploads/SELJE-VFP-Advanced.pdf> from
SWFox a couple of years ago. Page 9 addresses this issue, but you do have
to "enable" the fix because VFPA leaves VFPs default set by default for
maximum compatibility.

Eric




On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 10:12 AM Tracy Pearson 
wrote:

> Is this what you are talking about?
> http://www.baiyujia.com/vfpdocuments/f_vfp9fix18.asp
>
> This is what you need to do change the behavior. It does make it so you
> cannot dock the window by dragging it. You can still Dock the window with a
> command.  (DOCK WINDOW)
> http://www.baiyujia.com/vfpdocuments/f_vfp9fix19.asp
>
> HTH,
> Tracy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB
> Software Solutions, LLC
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:15 AM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: VFP9 (and VFPA) on Windows 10 -- wish Mr. Chen would fix the
> visual bugs!
>
> No.  When I'm dragging the Project window (or is it the Properties
> window?) horizontally, it instantly shows a phantom outline to the
> right, far right of where I actually am in my drag/move operation.
>
> On 4/29/2021 3:49 PM, Eric Selje wrote:
> > One of the very first bugs he fixed was a phantom shadow bug. Are you
> > talking about the one where if you drag a window it will leave a shadow
> of
> > the frame of the window artifcated all over the screen?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 11:29 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
> > mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I finally moved my dev to a Windows 10 laptop.  Was using Win7 forever
> >> prior.  The window dialog border "phantoms/shadows" is very annoying.
> >> It'd be great if Mr. Chen fixed in addition to the other bugs he's
> fixed!
> >>
> >> (I think I have his name wrong...I've looked on his
> >> http://www.baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_gotovfpa64.asp site but I
> >> just see CCB)
> >>
> >>
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Re: VFP9 (and VFPA) on Windows 10 -- wish Mr. Chen would fix the visual bugs!

[Eric Selje]

One of the very first bugs he fixed was a phantom shadow bug. Are you
talking about the one where if you drag a window it will leave a shadow of
the frame of the window artifcated all over the screen?

Eric

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 11:29 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> I finally moved my dev to a Windows 10 laptop.  Was using Win7 forever
> prior.  The window dialog border "phantoms/shadows" is very annoying.
> It'd be great if Mr. Chen fixed in addition to the other bugs he's fixed!
>
> (I think I have his name wrong...I've looked on his
> http://www.baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_gotovfpa64.asp site but I
> just see CCB)
>
>
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Re: [NF] VS 2022 will be 64 bit they say.

[Eric Selje]

I think about this with YouTube. How many kids know why it's called
You"Tube"? Or used a tube-based television? Even YouTube's logo uses a
tube-style TV with the rounded corners, which looks completely normal to
anyone over a certain age but hopelessly retro to many, I imagine.

Eric

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 7:42 AM Ed Leafe  wrote:

> On Apr 20, 2021, at 22:55, MB Software Solutions, LLC <
> mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
> >
> > I remarked on this awhile back on my LinkedIn profile.  Why can't they
> come up with something new?  Why use the Floppy Disk image yet?!?  Today's
> generation never even saw/used a floppy disk!
>
> Think about it: the only physical thing that they *may* have saved
> something to would be a USB stick. Many haven’t even used that. But they
> *have* clicked that icon knowing it meant “save”, even if they didn’t
> understand the meaning of the image.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Virtual Fox Fest 2021 (May): Time to Register

[Eric Selje]

I got a virtual shirt! I wore it to the store and got kicked out :(

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:52 PM Richard Kaye  wrote:

> See you there!
>
> --
>
> rk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 1:43 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: Virtual Fox Fest 2021 (May): Time to Register
>
> Okay, I got my Virtual Fox Fest 2021 shirt. I'm ready for the gathering in
> a month!
>
> Tracy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Rick Schummer
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 3:57 PM
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: Virtual Fox Fest 2021 (May): Time to Register
>
> Thanks to all who have already registered for Virtual Fox Fest (
> https://virtualfoxfest.com; May 6, 2021); we appreciate your support and
> our speakers are excited to share their sessions with you soon.
>
> That said, we know there are those who have not registered and have good
> intentions to do so before the conference starts. Please do so sooner than
> later. It literally takes minutes to register. Here is the link:
> http://geekgatherings.com/Registration
>
> Our Virtual Fox Fest shirt store has been updated for 2021! Check it out
> at https://geekgatherings.logosoftwear.com/.
> You can choose your favorite color or put the VFF logo on any item
> LogoSoftwear sells. You'll find instructions for customizing your purchase
> at https://virtualfoxfest.com/geekwear.aspx.
>
> After much consideration, we've decided to stick with a virtual event this
> fall. It will be structured similarly to Virtual Fox Fest 2020. Dates will
> be announced later. We're already looking forward to a live Southwest Fox
> in 2022.
>
> Rick
> White Light Computing, Inc.
>
> www.whitelightcomputing.com
>
>
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Re: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD

[Eric Selje]

I've got a planer. We can try to get that 15mm down to a 7mm.

Eric

On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 11:37 AM Paul Newton 
wrote:

> I realised that after I posted - it was meant to be the 2.5" drive.
> However further research shows that the laptop requires a 7mm drive and
> will not accept the 15mm drive.  Have to start looking again ...
>
> Thanks wOOdy
>
> Paul Newton
>
> On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 11:25, Jürgen Wondzinski 
> wrote:
>
> > Another gotcha:
> > >> The new HDD (WD Red 3.5" Internal Hard Drive) has a <<
> >
> > You will definitely not get a 3.5" platter into your laptop. Laptops have
> > 2.5" or 1.8" cages.
> >
> > wOOdy
> >
> >
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: ProFox  Im Auftrag von Paul Newton
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. März 2021 23:28
> > An: profox@leafe.com
> > Betreff: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > Please note my change of address - as a result of recently being made
> > redundant.  I have recently taken delivery of an HP Omen 17" laptop.  I
> am
> > used to having an ethernet port which accepts what I would call a
> standard
> > Cat5 plug but the port on the new laptop does not accept that plug which
> is
> > obviously too big.  The manual describes the port as RJ-45 (network)
> jack.
> > What would I need in order to connect my Cat5 plug into the RJ-45 socket?
> >
> > The new laptop has a 512GB SSD and a 1TB HDD.  The only info I have about
> > the 1TB drive is that it is 7200rpm.  Can I simply replace it with a 4TB
> > model running at 5400RPM?  The new HDD (WD Red 3.5" Internal Hard Drive)
> > has
> > a
> >
> >- SATA III 6 Gb/s interface.  Would I need to check  that for
> >compatibility?
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > Paul Newton
> >
> >
> >
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Re: VFP 9 SP2 3 Hot Fix descriptions

[Eric Selje]

Nope, VFPA doesn't do anything to your existing VFP 9 installation.

Here's more information from my 2019 SW Fox session:
http://saltydogllc.com/wp-content/uploads/SELJE-VFP-Advanced.pdf

Eric


On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 9:56 AM Richard Caruso 
wrote:

> VFPA and Sedna.
>
> If you installed SP2 and Sedna, will you have to reinstall Sedna after
> installing VFPA?
>
> -Ric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProFox  On Behalf Of MB Software
> Solutions, LLC
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 10:06 AM
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: VFP 9 SP2 3 Hot Fix descriptions
>
> I created a quick app for my former coworker just before I got laid off
> this month using VFPA.  It's really no different at all from my
> experience...it's just VFP9SP2 with more bug fixes.  ;-)
>
> --Mike
>
>
> On 3/16/2021 1:34 AM, Bill Anderson wrote:
> > Mike,
> >
> > I'd consider looking at VFPA way down the road due to the enormity of
> > this application. Gotta digest this app first before that type of
> > fix/enhancement.
> >
> > Bill Anderson
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:12 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
> > mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Bill,
> >>
> >> I know there's a comprehensive listing somewhere, but I wanted to ask
> >> if you'd consider our Chinese friend's VFPA Advanced version? (Visual
> >> FoxPro 10.00..1909 for Windows)
> >>
> >> He's got more fixes beyond what M$ did.
> >>
> >> --Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/15/2021 5:32 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:
> >>> Folks,
> >>>
> >>> I know that the main point of the VFP 9 SP2 hot fixes was to fix a
> >>> new report grouping bug. That's fine and dandy.
> >>>
> >>> What about the other two? I believe one of them pertained to data
> >> sessions
> >>> and perhaps settings in one showing in another DS...that's the one
> >>> I'm curious about.
> >>>
> >>> Any posted information on these?
> >>>
> >>> TIA,
> >>>
> >>> Bill Anderson
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: VFP on 64bit Machine

[Eric Selje]

I'm kind of afraid to ask why you ask this question though?

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 2:40 AM Charles Hart Enzer, M.D. 
wrote:

> Which is the Earliest Version of Visual Foxpro to run under Windows 10, 64
> bit machine?
>
> Thank you
>
> --
>
>
> *Shai / שי **Charles Hart Enzer, MD(Retired: **OH, NY, KY**), FAACAP*
> *Aliyah : Cincinnati to Jerusalem
> 's German Colony
>  May 2017*
>
>
>
> *Volunteer Associate Professor of PsychiatryUniversity of Cincinnati
> Medical CenterWebSite: **EnzerMD.com *
> *Publications* 
>
> Don't complain about the problem:
>
>- Find a solution
>- Create a plan
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Re: MemberClass update

[Eric Selje]

GoFish may be able to do this replacement.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 11:39 AM Tracy Pearson 
wrote:

> I believe I found my problem.
> I need to update the Properties of the baseGrid to set the name of Column
> to
> be BaseColumn, and the Methods to correctly reference the new names.
> Then I need to update the Class to baseheader, and the Parent to reference
> the new column name on the records that are headers.
> The other controls in the column also need the Parent updated.
>
> With 200ish grids in the project in both ClassLibs and Forms, I'm going to
> see if I can find and replace a lot of these with some code.
>
> Thanks for making take another look at the tiny details.
>
> Tracy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Tracy
> Pearson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 6:00 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: MemberClass update
>
> Here's a sample project that shows the behavior I'm having.
> https://github.com/Tracy-P/vfpmemberclass
>
> run foxbin2prg on the pj2 with the * as a parameter.
>
> I don't see anything out of place in the SCX. I do see the classlibrary is
> showing as an FXP.
>
> Thank you,
> Tracy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
> Richard
> Kaye
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 4:27 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: MemberClass update
>
> I've run into similar problems in the past and it's usually a missing or
> mis-named property. The error message implies this is a VCX-based class? If
> so, do you have a copy of Rick's HackCX tool? I've found that to be really
> helpful when trying to hunt this down.
>
> --
>
> rk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 4:09 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: MemberClass update
>
> I have an established class library and I'm wanting to now update the base
> class properties MemberClass and MemberClassLibrary.
> I have created the appropriate prg based Column and Header classes.
>
> A form or class that uses the changed baseGrid class works fine.
>
> A form or class that uses a class that contains the baseGrid is unable to
> load that class.
>
> Let's explain the hierarchy.
> baseLibrary contains baseGrid, and baseContainer
>
> moduleLibrary contains a subclass of baseContainer that has a baseGrid in
> moduleTransactionsDetail.
> This moduleTransactionDetail class has additional controls like buttons and
> labels for use in multiple places.
>
> Error loading file - record number 233.  moduleTransactionDetail  its members>.  Parent : Cannot add this object to a Grid
>
> All the class libraries and forms will build without errors. Attempt to
> modify them, or run them and these errors occur.
>
> Does anyone have suggestions why these would be failing?
>
> DEFINE CLASS basecolumn as Column
>
> fontname = "Segoe UI"
> fontsize = 10
> name = "column"
>
> HeaderClass = "baseheader"
> HeaderClassLibrary = this.ClassLibrary
>
> ENDDEFINE
>
> DEFINE CLASS baseheader as Header
>
> fontname = "Segoe UI"
> fontsize = 10
> caption = "header"
> name = "header"
>
> ENDDEFINE
>
> I did find I needed to put the name property in the PRG based class to get
> the first layer working.
>
> Thank you,
> Tracy
>
>
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Re: sql server connection

[Eric Selje]

Rafael,

They'll have to have the driver installed in order to talk to SQL Server.
The best way is to provide them with an Installer program (use InnoSetup -
free and easy) that installs your app as well as the driver. It can add a
DSN too, although you may want to consider hardcoding that connection
string into your EXE so the password isn't visible. Hopefully they're using
a SQL account with the minimal privileges needed.

I hope this helps,

Eric


On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 6:50 AM Rafael Copquin 
wrote:

> I have a VFP) app that uses MS sqlserver as backend. The SQL Server is
> located in a web provider
>
> The connection is achieved by creating a DSN throught the ODBC driver in my
> PC
>
> I need to deploy this app to several clients. But none of them should use
> their ODBC driver to create the connection, or install the applicable SQL
> Server Native Client in their PC.
>
> The idea is that I would send them my VFP application exe and they would
> simply connect to the cloud SQL Server and run the app without any further
> operations to install the exe.
>
> I tried SQLConnect and SQLStringConnect, but they always refer to an
> existing DSN
>
> Is there a way to accomplish this without my clients intervention other
> than lodging the exe in the applicable directory in their PC's ??
>
> Please advise and if possible, provide an example on how to do this
>
> TIA
>
> Rafael Copquin
>
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Re: [SPAM] [NF] Macbook Upgrade

[Eric Selje]

I could see that. I'm in constant awe of the different use cases people
have for their machines.  e.g. I used to keep a *ton* of my code on my
local machine now, but I've moved it all to GitHub or BitBucket and only
have what I'm currently working on stored locally.  All of my photos,
music, and videos are on my Synology (as well as local backups).  VMs are
in AWS, etc. My local storage needs have greatly diminished in the last few
years.

E

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 12:45 PM Christof Wollenhaupt <
chris...@wollenhaupt.org> wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> > Why do you need 4TB of local storage? I'm doing as much as I can to go
> the
> > other way now - keeping as much as possible on my Synology NAS so I can
> > access it from any device. That may be your constraint.
>
> We have like a half a dozen Synologies in various offices in different
> sizes. None of them would meet Ken's "must be portable" requirement. 
> The other issue with Synologies is that in terms of data transfer it's hard
> to exceed 100 MB/second and the network adds extra latency, as does the SMB
> protocol. My external SSD connected to USB-C maintains 240 MB/sec and the
> internal one is a lot faster than that.
>
> We tried TimeMachine backups on the Synology and storing our VMs there,
> but it was just too slow and buggy. We now use SSDs for TimeMachine and a
> lot of problems have disappeared.
>
> I've 2 TB of storage, but constantly get error messages because I run out
> of disk space. I've moved rarely used VMs to an external disk, even though
> I don't like that. I guess videos need a similar amount of storage.
>
> --
> Christof
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Re: [NF] Macbook Upgrade

[Eric Selje]

Why do you need 4TB of local storage? I'm doing as much as I can to go the
other way now - keeping as much as possible on my Synology NAS so I can
access it from any device. That may be your constraint.

The new MacBook Airs with M1 are amazingly fast, but I don't think large
screens are available yet.

Eric

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 11:58 AM Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) <
foxh...@information-architecture.com> wrote:

> Hi, All -- -
>
> Long time, etc. ;-) Been over 5 years of official retirement (actual a bit
> less). Still watch the list for nostalgia, but I have nothing useful to
> contribute (OK -- all at once: "As usual!")
>
> Question for Ed and the Mac-tolerant: My mid-2014 MacBook is tired and
> literally falling apart. I want to modernize a bit ("Oh! to have a battery
> last more than 30 minutes..."). New MacBook with a big drive is $4-$5,000
> depending on the drive. My criteria are:
>
> 1. I really don't need big power any more -- I surf and do the occasional
> audio/video/image editing. What power I have is enough.
>
> 2. I want mega-storage. A 4TB drive or more would be the best. (Currently I
> have a have an external drive literally Velcro'ed to the underside.) I
> could add an internal one, but most of the laptop-size internal drives seem
> to be targeted at NAS systems (https://tinyurl.com/y2hh3qhz). I am too far
> out of the hardware loop to comprehend why a NAS-targeted drive is
> different or wouldn't work in a laptop.
>
> 3. I still want a big screen -- a combination of preference and old eyes.
>
> 4. Happy for a refurb. or whatever if the source is reputable. I can
> replace the drive (if #2).
>
> 5. Yes, it is possible that I would go back to the Windows or Linux
> universes, but for now I want to stay the course (I use Parallels to do
> Windows/Linux).
>
> 6. I need to stay mobile -- we move around quite a bit.
>
> Recommendations? Half-baked ideas?
>
> Warmest regards to all -- still grateful after all these years for your
> camaraderie and generosity. (Special shout-out to wOOdy, harking back to
> the CompuServe days.)
>
> Ken Kix
>
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Re: Facebook - FoxPro (LOL)

[Eric Selje]

I'm picturing Stephen Hawking shaking his fist at the sky.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 10:42 AM Paul H. Tarver  wrote:

> !LOL!
>
> Paul H. Tarver
> Tarver Program Consultants, Inc.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB
> Software Solutions, LLC
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 7:39 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Facebook - FoxPro (LOL)
>
> Screenshot:  https://www.screencast.com/t/rfxtn8NOjxd
>
> lol
>
>
>
> --
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Re: ProFox List Statistics for 2020

[Eric Selje]

I thought "Antwort" meant "Answer"?  Without looking it up right now (since
I have wOOdy onhand), I remember when Die Antwoord had that big song "I
Fink You Freaky " (catchy as
anything, if a bit disconcerting) and I looked up the meaning. Oh maybe
this is a distinction between German and Dutch South Africaan?

E


On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 4:54 PM Jürgen Wondzinski 
wrote:

> Hi Ed,
>
> Thanks for checking! The count now seems correct, but my name is stil
> mangled.
>
> That "AW" is from a germanized Outlook (short for "Antwort"), don't know
> how French and Spanish versions are dealing with that
>
> wOOdy
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: ProFox  Im Auftrag von Ed Leafe
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 3. Januar 2021 23:17
> An: ProFox Mailing List 
> Betreff: Re: ProFox List Statistics for 2020
>
> On Jan 3, 2021, at 13:36, Jürgen Wondzinski  wrote:
> >
> > Somehow that calculation is broken. It lists me as the one with the
> > most started threads. Definitely not true ...
>
> It was assuming that all replies to a thread started with “Re: “. Your
> replies start with “AW: “. I’ve updated the code to exclude that variation
> from the new threads.
>
> Are there any other language-specific reply prefixes I should also be
> aware of?
>
> > It also can't get my name / umlaut correctly. Duh..
>
> It’s correct in the database, but somehow the Python2 code was mangling
> the character set. I’ve just updated the script to Python 3, and it appears
> to be correct now. I’m going to re-send the yearly stats with these updates.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: 'Twas The Night Before Crisis...

[Eric Selje]

Fantastic. Just need to add a new verse about how their continuous delivery
pipeline was hacked and a DLL w/ a backdoor included in the code.

S Rozhdyestvom Hristovym! (That's Merry Christmas, in Russian, or so I'm
told),
Eric

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 10:48 PM M Jarvis  wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 7:34 AM Ted Roche  wrote:
>
> > Wishing one and all a safe socially-distanced holiday season and a happy,
> > healthy and prosperous New Year! -- Ted
> >
> >
> Always a welcome gift this time of year... Thanks Ted!
> --
> Matt Jarvis
> Veneta, Oregon USA
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Re: ParallelFox - anyone using it in production?

[Eric Selje]

Joel Leach is giving us a demo of ParallelFox *right now*in our MadFox User
Group. He uses it in production.

Join is if you see this in time:
https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/287756997

Eric


On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 9:03 AM Bill Anderson  wrote:

> Alan,
>
> The author is definitely using it though he's not on ProFox.
>
> In my tests it's worked quite well. But nothing I've used in production
> yet.
>
> Bill Anderson
> The Anderson Files LLC
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> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:46 AM Alan Bourke 
> wrote:
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> > I have a customer who runs a process which is essentially chugging
> through
> > a huge DBF and doing some processing for each record. This is taking
> quite
> > a while on their hardware, like hours. It struck me that this is an ideal
> > application for parallelism. So I've knocked up a quick test that uses
> > ParalleFox with each worker processing a chunk of the DBF file. It seems
> to
> > work fine. Anyone using this library in production ?
> >
> > --
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> >   alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
> >
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Re: Tomorrow is the last day of Virutal Fox Fest

[Eric Selje]

Putting faces to these names has been one of my favorite things about the
conference so far!

Eric

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 12:41 PM Tracy Pearson 
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> Hello Everyone!
>
> I have been enjoying chatting with people and getting to see some faces of
> people for the first time.
>
> The sessions have been worth the time to watch live. There is a lot of
> chatter in the chat window as well. I haven't been paying attention to the
> chat much.
>
> Maybe I'll get a chance to put some more faces to the names I see here.
>
> Have a good one!
> Tracy
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Re: Virtual Fox Fest

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insert rimshot.gif

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:28 PM Bill Anderson  wrote:

> >> I do miss Arizona though.<<
>
> Try Snapple.
>
> Bill Anderson
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> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:33 AM Eric Selje  wrote:
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> >
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> turn
> > them on and ask yourself. You can share your screen immediately. It's
> got a
> > lot going for it.
> >
> > I do miss Arizona though.
> >
> > E
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 10:29 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
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> > >
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> > > >>
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Re: Virtual Fox Fest

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I'm really impressed with this HopIn platform. It definitely works best in
Chrome (except on my iPad, where it works best on Safari because Chrome
wouldn't allow me to share my camera/mic).

I like that you can "lurk" when someone's asking vendor questions, or turn
them on and ask yourself. You can share your screen immediately. It's got a
lot going for it.

I do miss Arizona though.

E


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>
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> > On 15 October 2020 11:18:38 GMT-04:00, "MB Software Solutions, LLC" <
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> >>
> >>
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> >> begin at half past the hour.
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Re: [NF] Thunderbolt & VGA

[Eric Selje]

/DisplayPort Alt Mode/ That's a new one for me. Learn something new every
day!

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 1:28 PM Frank Cazabon 
wrote:

> Thanks Eric,
>
> I don't think that is the issue here but it may prove helpful elsewhere.
> I think it may be a problem with the adapter being DisplayPort Alt Mode
> and the port is actually DisplayPort. Or at least that's a theory. I'm
> still to understand this DisplayPort thing properly.
>
> Frank.
>
> Frank Cazabon
>
> On 22/09/2020 4:12 pm, Eric Selje wrote:
> > I don't know if this is your issue, but here's a lesson I learned the
> hard
> > way:
> >
> >
> https://www.urtech.ca/2017/12/solved-difference-active-passive-displayport-adaptors/
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 1:19 PM Frank Cazabon 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I know there are some knowledgeable hardware people around here. Hope
> >> someone can clear something up for me.
> >>
> >> I've got a new laptop with a Thunderbolt 3 (USB type C 3.1 Gen 2) port
> >> (the manufacturer says: The Thunderbolt 3/USB type C port for the
> >> Element has support for DisplayPort(DP) connections), an old AOC LCD VGA
> >> monitor and bought an adapter so that I could connect this monitor.
> >> However the laptop does not detect the monitor. The adapter is Type C 2
> >> in 1 HDMI+VGA adapter that says it's compatible with Laptops with USB-C
> >> output. The Amazon link for the adapter says:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PCKQWCX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8=1
> >>
> >> Wide Compatibility】2018/17/16 New MacBook Pro, New MacBook Air, MacBook
> >> 12, 2018 New iPad Pro 11/12.9, 2018/17 iMac/Pro, Dell XPS 13, Surface
> >> Book 2, Samsung Galaxy S8/S9/Plus/Note 8/9, HUAWEI Mate 10 / Mate 10 Pro
> >> / P20 / P20 Pro Pixelbook, Chromebook, Intel NUC, HP, Acer, Lenovo and
> >> many others *with USB-C DP ALT Mode* (See Product Description)
> >>
> >> Shouldn't this work? Is there something I am missing?
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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Re: [NF] Thunderbolt & VGA

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I don't know if this is your issue, but here's a lesson I learned the hard
way:

https://www.urtech.ca/2017/12/solved-difference-active-passive-displayport-adaptors/


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> someone can clear something up for me.
>
> I've got a new laptop with a Thunderbolt 3 (USB type C 3.1 Gen 2) port
> (the manufacturer says: The Thunderbolt 3/USB type C port for the
> Element has support for DisplayPort(DP) connections), an old AOC LCD VGA
> monitor and bought an adapter so that I could connect this monitor.
> However the laptop does not detect the monitor. The adapter is Type C 2
> in 1 HDMI+VGA adapter that says it's compatible with Laptops with USB-C
> output. The Amazon link for the adapter says:
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PCKQWCX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8=1
>
> Wide Compatibility】2018/17/16 New MacBook Pro, New MacBook Air, MacBook
> 12, 2018 New iPad Pro 11/12.9, 2018/17 iMac/Pro, Dell XPS 13, Surface
> Book 2, Samsung Galaxy S8/S9/Plus/Note 8/9, HUAWEI Mate 10 / Mate 10 Pro
> / P20 / P20 Pro Pixelbook, Chromebook, Intel NUC, HP, Acer, Lenovo and
> many others *with USB-C DP ALT Mode* (See Product Description)
>
> Shouldn't this work? Is there something I am missing?
>
>
> --
>
> Frank.
>
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>
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Re: Virtual Fox Fest

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I'm excited to see what John has to say about VFPA and especially the C++
compiler.  When I was preparing my session last year and was reading about
that I thought "Well this is an entire session unto itself" so I didn't get
too far into it but it looks very very interesting. It actually takes your
VFP apps and compiles them using the c++ compiler for extra speed and
security, if I'm not mistaken. Chan is some sort of genius.

Eric

On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 4:59 PM Rick Schummer 
wrote:

> We're pleased to announce GeekWear by Geek Gatherings (
> https://virtualfoxfest.com/geekwear.aspx). Order your Virtual Fox
> Fest gear from the options shown or create your own unique VFFwear.
>
> Unfortunately, because of family matters, Cathy Pountney had to withdraw
> from presenting this year. Fortunately, John
> Ryan offered to present "Visual FoxPro Advanced and VFP C++ Compiler: A
> New Lease of Life for VFP"
> (
> https://virtualfoxfest.com/Sessions.aspx#Visual_FoxPro_Advanced_and_VFP_C_Compiler
> ).
>
> Registrations are still open: http://geekgatherings.com/Registration
>
> Rick
> White Light Computing, Inc.
>
> www.whitelightcomputing.com
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Re: ODBC for VFP Tables

[Eric Selje]

You can see my old blog post

for how to add ODBC drivers, but if you're looking to add ODBC drivers for
*VFP* tables, they stopped working after version 7 I believe.

Eric


On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:42 PM Desmond Lloyd 
wrote:

> Need to add the FoxPro ODBC drivers on a server (2012R2) and they do not
> show uip on the list.  Is there a way to add the 32 and 64 bit drivers for
> VFP Tables?
>
> TIA,
> regards,
> Desmond
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Re: Task: Process thousands of records through a regular process -- multiple EXE runs to cut down processing time??

[Eric Selje]

I'm not sure I trust RLock(). I'd probably use a "Status" field that
indicates the record is unprocessed, in process, or processed. This might
be a good use case for Christof's DMult multi-threading utility
.


Eric


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> I've got a regular process that runs, basically using key information to
> grab data from an API and then update the local VFP database.  There are
> maybe 64000 records to process, and each record to update through this
> process takes about a second, so to process this group would take over
> 17 hours.  Each record could be processed on its own; there are no
> relationships between each.
>
> I don't want to start it and run the 64000 in a row for 17+ hours.  I
> would like to design the app to use the table, RLOCK the row I'm
> processing, and the UNLOCK the row when I'm done.  I figure with this
> design, I could run multiple instances of the MyProgram.exe (similar to
> how WestWind Web Connection allows you to run multiple instances) to
> process the batch maybe 4x faster (if I launched 4 instances of
> MyProgram.exe).  The basic construct would be as follows:
>
> USE ListOfRecsToProcess IN 0 SHARED Alias MyList && record is PK (to
> process) i, tProcessed t, tError t, cSession c(10)
> SCAN FOR EMPTY(cSession) AND RLOCK('MyList')
>  IF ProcessRecord(MyList.ID) THEN
>  REPLACE tProcessed WITH DATETIME(), cSession WITH this.cSession
> IN MyList
>  ELSE
>  REPLACE tError WITH DATETIME(), cSession WITH this.cSession IN
> MyList
>  ENDIF
> ENDSCAN
>
>
> Does anybody see any problems with that general design?  The
> ProcessRecord method calls an API to get values and then updates the
> local VFP record accordingly.
>
> tia,
> --Mike
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Re: Where is the Fox?

[Eric Selje]

I wonder. There's a *lot* of things on there that I've never heard of!

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 1:40 PM Ed Leafe  wrote:

> On Jul 31, 2020, at 13:23, Ted Roche  wrote:
> >
> > There's lots of things missing. You get the answer to the questions you
> ask.
> >
> > GitHub seems to flag FoxPro projects as "xBase" -- at least that's what
> > VFX/Thor is. There are also "topics" for VFP, so there's another
> variation.
> >
> > StackOverflow, otoh, has separate xBase and FoxPro and "Visual FoxPro"
> tags.
> >
> > So, if you are looking at the intersection of two metrics, you'd better
> > make sure they're the same thing.
>
> OK, let’s assume that you could wave your wand, and aggregate all of those
> so that they are all recorded as “FoxPro”.
>
> Do you think it would show up even then?
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Where is the Fox?

[Eric Selje]

Don't those measure how many questions were asked about those languages on
those platforms? Fox is so easy there are fewer questions, and we ask them
on other platforms. That's my spin and I'm sticking to it.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:45 AM Ed Leafe  wrote:

> Redmond Programming Language rankings for Q3 2020
>
> https://redmonk.com/sogrady/files/2020/07/lang-rank-q320-wm.png
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> Something seems to be missing...
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: X# and .NET Core

[Eric Selje]

And if there's something that's not quite supported yet, there's a file
called dbcmd.xh that you can use to "create" commands. e.g.

#command SCAN => CoreDb.GoTop(); DO WHILE NOT CoreDb.Eof()
#command ENDSCAN => CoreDb.Skip(1); ENDDO

See the SWFox X# whitepaper
 for
more info on that.

This is good stuff, Johan.

Eric



On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 11:06 AM Matt Slay 
wrote:

> Yes,  Scan/EndScan now supported in X#.
>
> - Matt Slay
>
>
> On 2020-07-29 11:00 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
> > No SCAN/ENDSCAN support yet?
> >
> >
> > On 7/29/2020 11:56 AM, Johan Nel wrote:
> >> Hi all VFPers,
> >>
> >> Well have not posted much lately about X# here due to some other
> >> issues I have to attend to, but good progress are made with support
> >> for the VFP dialect.
> >>
> >> As per the message regarding .NET Core, I would also like to share
> >> progress with X# regarding .NET Core support.
> >>
> >> Attached the link and posting by Robert today.
> >>
> >> Hope it is of interest to (most) some.
> >>
> >> Johan Nel
> >> George, South Africa.
> >>
> >>
> https://www.xsharp.info/forum/public-product/2069-xsharp-builds-on-net-core
> >>
> >>
> >> I would like to share some progress that I made today.
> >> I have changed the X# build system to support building for .Net Core.
> >> Consider an app that has one PRG file and a XSPROJ file.
> >> The contents of the XSProj file looks like this:
> >>
> >> 
> >>   
> >>   
> >> Exe
> >> netcoreapp5.0
> >> true
> >> vo
> >>   
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>>> Version="4.7.1" />
> >> 
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >> As you can see we are compiling for .Net Core 5.0 and for the VO
> >> dialect. I have included the XSharp assemblies needed to open a DBF
> >> file. The only "strange" thing in here is the package references to
> >> the System.Text.Encoding.CodePages package, because by default .Net
> >> Core does not have support for Codepage 1252 which I am using.
> >> Unlike traditional project files there are no items included. By
> >> default .Net Core includes all source code items in the folder.
> >>
> >> The code looks like this:
> >>
> >> USING System.Text
> >>
> >> FUNCTION Start() AS VOID
> >> FIELD CUSTNUM, LASTNAME, FIRSTNAME
> >> Encoding.RegisterProvider(CodePagesEncodingProvider.Instance)
> >> ? "Hello from X#"
> >> ? "OS   :",OS(TRUE)
> >> ? "Framework:", System.Environment.Version:ToString()
> >> ? "Xsharp   : version", Version(), "dialect",
> >> RuntimeState.Dialect:ToString()
> >> ? "Datetime :", DateTime()
> >> ? "Program  :", ExecName(TRUE)
> >> ? "Workdir  :", WorkDir()
> >> ? "Curdir   :", System.IO.Directory.GetCurrentDirectory()
> >>
> >> ? "Opening, Indexing and listing a DBF with .Net Core"
> >> ?
> >> USE Customer
> >> INDEX ON LASTNAME TO LASTNAME
> >> DO WHILE ! EOF()
> >> ? Str(CUSTNUM,2) , LASTNAME, FIRSTNAME
> >> SKIP
> >> ENDDO
> >> ? "Press any key"
> >> Console.ReadLine()
> >> RETURN
> >>
> >>
> >> As you can see I am calling a function in the Encoding class to link
> >> the package that has the codepage support.
> >> The rest is a normal mixture of Xbase code and .Net code.
> >> To compile and run the program I type
> >>
> >> dotnet run
> >>
> >> on the command line.
> >> The result is this:
> >>
> >> Hello from X#
> >> OS   : Windows 10 Enterprise (x64) ( Version 10.0, Build 18363 )
> >> Framework: 5.0.0
> >> Xsharp   : version XSharp 2.5.2.0 dialect VO
> >> Datetime : 29-07-2020 16:10:58
> >> Program  : C:\test\bin\Debug\netcoreapp5.0\test.dll
> >> Workdir  : C:\test\bin\Debug\netcoreapp5.0\
> >> Curdir   : C:\test
> >> Opening, Indexing and listing a DBF with .Net Core
> >>
> >>  6 Baker  James
> >>  2 Borne  Maria
> >> 15 Chandler   Walter
> >>  3 Cooper Elizabeth
> >> 12 Cusumano   Karen
> >>  5 Dougherty  Janet
> >> .
> >> .
> >> 14 Walsh  Gloria
> >> 19 Zimmerman  Carla
> >> Press any key
> >>
> >>
> >> As you can see the runtime, RDD system and Macro compiler all work on
> >> .Net Core 5.0 !
> >> You can deploy this app with all support DLLs in one single Exe and 2
> >> small DLLs by calling:
> >>
> >> dotnet publish --self-contained true -r win-x64
> >> -p:PublishSingleFile=true -p:PublishTrimmed=true
> >>
> >>
> >> This creates the following files, which make up the whole program:
> >>
> >> 29-07-2020  16:1328.955.153 test.exe
> >> 28-05-2020  08:26   500.608 hostfxr.dll
> >> 28-05-2020  08:26   506.248 hostpolicy.dll
> >>
> >> Even the XSharp DLLs are included in test,exe. The total size is 29 Mb.
> >>
> >> You can also prepare an image for Linux by replacing win-x64 with
> >> linux-x64 and then the output is:
> >>
> >> 29-07-2020  16:1644.552.454 test
> >> 28-05-2020  07:54   563.728 libhostfxr.so
> >> 28-05-2020  07:54   532.408 libhostpolicy.so
> >>
> >> A self contained .Net app for Linux in 44 Mb !
> >>
> >> I hope you find this 

Re: [NF] .NET Core build to runtime 3.1.5 with SDK for 3.1.6 installed - Possible?

[Eric Selje]

Isn't it nice to be out of DLL Hell and into .Net Runtime Purgatory?



On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 5:01 PM Tracy Pearson  wrote:

> Thank you Richard, and Rick.
>
> I will consult with my team on the path we may take in the future.
>
> Tracy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kaye
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 5:21 PM
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: [NF] .NET Core build to runtime 3.1.5 with SDK for 3.1.6
> installed - Possible?
>
> As I thought might happen, Rick posted an answer. Here it is:
>
> If you're shipping a vertical application your best bet is to bundle the
> runtimes with the application. .NET Core supports building the application
> in framework independent mode which includes all the runtime files required
> to run the application as part of the build output. IOW, you build a fully
> self-contained application that has no runtime dependencies on a .NET Core
> Framework. In your case I think this would make sense because the target
> machines are unlikely to have a pre-installed runtime of any kind and it
> side-steps the potential version mismatches. Doing this will make the
> distribution much larger though - a full runtime installation adds roughly
> 80-90megs to the application (about 30-35megs in an installer package).
>
> The other option is to rely on specific runtime versions being available.
> .NET Core rolls forward to higher point releases, but only up to the next
> point release. (ie. 3.1 and 3.2 are considered different but a 3.11 app can
> run on 3.15 but a 3.15 app can't run on 3.11).
>
> In the situation with churches it's unlikely that pre-existing versions of
> .NET Core exist, so distributing self-contained is the way to go I think.
>
> Or if that's all too much hassle - don't use .NET Core but use (full) .NET
> Framework instead, since that will pre-exist on any Windows machine Windows
> 7 and forward and just work. This is one of the main reasons why I'm
> sticking with full framework for the time being for any desktop, non-server
> application development.
>
> +++ Rick ---
>
> --
>
> rk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Richard Kaye
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 2:55 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: [NF] .NET Core build to runtime 3.1.5 with SDK for 3.1.6
> installed - Possible?
>
> I thought about cross-posting it for you, Tracy. I'll act as your agent in
> this matter for my usual 20% commission. 
>
> --
>
> rk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 2:39 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: [NF] .NET Core build to runtime 3.1.5 with SDK for 3.1.6
> installed - Possible?
>
> Well, the required version is 3.1.4.  Yet it compiled requiring 3.1.6
> because that is the most recent 3.1.X installed.
> So the downgrade you might be thinking of is going to 3.0 which is no
> longer supported.
> Or 2.1 which doesn't have access to some of the features I'm using in C# 8.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Russell
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 2:26 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [NF] .NET Core build to runtime 3.1.5 with SDK for 3.1.6
> installed - Possible?
>
> You can downgrade the version of core required in the project.  Either
> way, you have to supply that in your installer.  Your clients probably
> won't have it on thier machines.  I'd consider using the M$ one because it
> will bring in the correct bootstraping you'll need.
>
> I only do web installs and not systems that use a forms based UI.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 12:11 PM Tracy Pearson 
> wrote:
>
> > My searches on the internet are fetching a bunch of build .NET Core
> > 2.1 with .NET Core 3.0 installed.
> > I'm in the later stages of getting a product ready for release and the
> test
> > machines and build machines are still on 3.1.5.
> >
> > When I want to do a quick build from my system which was installed at
> > 3.1.6, it refuses to run on the test machines. I get this:
> > It was not possible to find any compatible framework version The
> > framework 'Microsoft.AspNetCore.App', version '3.1.6' was not found.
> >
> > I tried dotnet build -f netcoreapp3.1.5 and got this:
> > C:\Program
> >
> >
>
> Files\dotnet\sdk\3.1.302\Sdks\Microsoft.NET.Sdk\targets\Microsoft.NET.Target
> > FrameworkInference.targets(127,5): error NETSDK1045: The current .NET
> > SDK does not support targeting .NET Core 3.1.5.  Either target .NET
> > Core 3.1
> or
> > lower, or use a version of the .NET SDK that supports .NET Core 3.1.5.
> > [c:\work\pcservice\PcService12\PcService12.csproj]
> >
> > I distribute software to churches. I don't expect them to have a
> > dedicated IT group.
> > My concern is what happens when the SDK on the build machine moves
> > from
> > 3.1.5 to 3.1.6 due to an update from Microsoft.
> > If I have already shipped the product and have 

Re: [SPAM] [SPAM] Unit tests (was Re: [NF] I will .....)

[Eric Selje]

/It doesn't make sense to retrospectively create unit test for an existing
application/

Useful for when you're going to make changes and you want to ensure they
don't break your existing app, especially for code that you inherited and
may not fully understand. That was the impetus behind that feature.
Definitely seems backwards though.

Eric

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 8:23 AM Christof Wollenhaupt <
chris...@wollenhaupt.org> wrote:

> > Having said that, TDD does work "best" for new development, and many VFP
> > devs are not doing a ton of apps from scratch which is why it may not
> have
> > caught on. It also works best with logic that's not buried in the UI, and
> > unfortunately a lot of us buried it there (forgive me father).
>
> We have used FoxUnit for our FoxPro DOS based application. That program
> was certainly not written with unit tests or even classes in mind. But even
> a procedure with private variables can be a testable unit if you design the
> interface carefully.
>
> It doesn't make sense to retrospectively create unit test for an existing
> application, I agree. However, when you modify existing code it's often
> possible to move the parts that you need to change out of the SCX Click or
> whatever method into a separate class. There is no need to do this all at
> once, just when you need to make changes to code anyway.
>
> When code uses functions like MESSAGEBOX(), etc. you can replace those
> with a simple messagebox or dialog class (such as the one in INTL) and then
> in your test mock this class. Various tests can then cover multiple paths
> through the code depending on a simulated choice a user made. You can also
> assert that certain messages are shown to the user by making a call an
> expectation in foxmock and then verify those afterwards.
>
> --
> Christof
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Re: [SPAM] Unit tests (was Re: [NF] I will .....)

[Eric Selje]

I may be biased here, having given the Unit Test talk at SW Fox and now
maintaining FoxUnit on GitHub, but to me Test-Driven Development is one of
those things where I "saw the light". As Stephen says, writing the tests
first forces you to think about design first, which always leads to better
programs. And w/ FoxMock you can remove all externalities from the tests to
ensure it's your code that's getting tested and not its dependencies on
other services like SQL Server or other APIs.

Having said that, TDD does work "best" for new development, and many VFP
devs are not doing a ton of apps from scratch which is why it may not have
caught on. It also works best with logic that's not buried in the UI, and
unfortunately a lot of us buried it there (forgive me father). It can work
well for existing apps though, and a fairly recent (5 years?) feature of
FoxUnit is that it will scan your existing class libs and create a test
harness for all of your methods to get you started.

Here's the FoxUnit whitepaper
 if
anyone's interested.

Eric

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 1:35 AM Christof Wollenhaupt <
chris...@wollenhaupt.org> wrote:

> >
> > To make an unit test in VFP is as easy as anything:
> > just write your code, highlight it, activate the shortcut (right mouse
> > click), select the option 'Execute the selection'.  A very neat and quick
> > solution.
>
> It's even quicker if you use FoxUnit and foxmock. Both are free on VFPX.
> I've hundreds of unit tests that I can run with a single key stroke that
> test many different modules of our applications. Writing testable code also
> tends to lead to a cleaner class design that is more reusable.
>
> --
> Christof
>
>
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Re: [NF] Are they watching you?

[Eric Selje]

/TDS Telecom/ Wow I didn't know their reach extended that far!

/Deco/ I saw that one too as a possibility. It looks like for real decent
coverage of a 3,000 sq ft home it's going to be necessary to invest 2-3
hundred in a good mesh system.

The weird thing about my current router is that it's been working well for
a long time, and then it factory reset on its own. I restored the
configuration, and then it reset again. The only difference is that I
plugged a new receiver into the same power strip. I wonder if the power
might have dropped below a certain level so it reset? Does that make sense?
Maybe I'll try a different circuit.

Eric


On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 2:14 PM Ted Roche  wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 2:05 PM Eric Selje  wrote:
>
> > Who's your ISP??
> >
>
> TDS Telecom. They're a little (Fortune 1000) telecom company that
> specializes in rural and suburban telephony and data systems. They bought
> my local Merrimack Telephone Company with its couple thousand customers a
> while ago, and rolled out fiber to the home nearly a decade ago.
>
> https://tdstelecom.com/about/company-information/company-profile.html
>
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Re: [NF] Are they watching you?

[Eric Selje]

Who's your ISP??

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:35 PM Ted Roche  wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 9:17 AM Eric Selje  wrote:
>
> > I am thinking about getting a new wi-fi router and a few folks are
> praising
> > the Google WiFi system.
>
>
> I'm sure you can trust Google. ;)
>
> Mesh networking is the way to go, say the goo-roos. eero also gets good
> reviews.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-wi-fi-mesh-networking-kits/
>
> My home iSP, based out of beautiful downtown Madison, Wisconsin of all
> places, offers an eero mesh setup as their "WiFi+" option.
>
> That said, it's usually better to buy your own and set it up , so you can
> do all the support yourself.
>
>
> > No thanks, not even if they were giving the
> > devices away (like they do now with Google Homes).
> >
>
> Yeah, that's a pretty clever "first hit's free" marketing scheme. It's like
> Amazon getting people to pay money for a point-of-sale terminal and book
> reader.
>
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Re: [NF] I will .....

[Eric Selje]

Apostate! Heathen!


On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:19 AM Bill Anderson  wrote:

> As a developer once (dramatically, suspiciously looks left, looks right) I
> tried using tabs as an indentation...
>
> Please forgive me
>
> Bill Anderson
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 6:15 AM Eric Selje  wrote:
>
> > Forgive me father, for I have started coding without having a plan or
> even
> > a unit test written first. It's been 51 years since my last confession.
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 1:57 PM Dennis Schuette 
> wrote:
> >
> > > That's such an easy change, I won't even bill you for it.
> > >
> > > 1 hour of programming, 5 hours of debugging, and 3 customer requested
> > > enhancements later, I'm almost done!
> > >
> > > Customized Business Services, LLC (928) 580-6352
> > > Dennis Schuette  Primary:
> > > den...@cbsds.com
> > > 49 NW 130 Avenue Alternate:
> > > schuette.den...@gmail.com
> > > Great Bend, KS  67530
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Stephen Russell
> > > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 11:06 AM
> > > To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> > > Subject: [NF] I will .
> > >
> > > Alright, I'm not a priest, but I am a programmer.
> > >
> > > Confess to me your programming sins, and I shall absolve you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Stephen Russell
> > > Sr. Analyst
> > > Ring Container Technology
> > > Oakland TN
> > >
> > > 901.246-0159 cell
> > >
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Re: NF Windows 11 ?

[Eric Selje]

Or is it binary 3?

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:02 AM Ed Leafe  wrote:

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 06:55, Ted Roche  wrote:
> >
> > Apple finally turned their OS up to 11:
> >
> https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/22/21299799/macos-11-big-sur-os-x-apple-verison-number-end-era
> >
> > Microsoft can't be more than 2, 3, 5 years behind...
>
> Well, waddya know? It had been “OS X” for so long that most people
> pronounced it “oh ess ecks”, not realizing that it was supposed to be “10”.
>
> Those of us who knew that the X in OS X was a Roman numeral will now
> probably pronounce “OS 11” as “oh ess too”. ;-)
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [NF] Are they watching you?

[Eric Selje]

I am thinking about getting a new wi-fi router and a few folks are praising
the Google WiFi system. Their website specifically says they don't collect
data except telemetrics as needed to improve performance or somesuch.
There's *no way* I believe that's true. They're upset that I'm using
FireFox and DuckDuckGo so the only way they can see what I'm doing is by
becoming my wifi provider too. No thanks, not even if they were giving the
devices away (like they do now with Google Homes).

Eric

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:09 PM Stephen Russell 
wrote:

>
> https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/07/15/google-sued-for-blatant-lies-about-user-privacy
>
>
>
> --
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> Sr. Analyst
> Ring Container Technology
> Oakland TN
>
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Re: [NF] I will .....

[Eric Selje]

Forgive me father, for I have started coding without having a plan or even
a unit test written first. It's been 51 years since my last confession.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 1:57 PM Dennis Schuette  wrote:

> That's such an easy change, I won't even bill you for it.
>
> 1 hour of programming, 5 hours of debugging, and 3 customer requested
> enhancements later, I'm almost done!
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> Alright, I'm not a priest, but I am a programmer.
>
> Confess to me your programming sins, and I shall absolve you.
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Re: [NF] Less Filling or Tastes Great?

[Eric Selje]

That server should have carded Gates. He looks 14.

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 11:01 AM Ted Roche  wrote:

> I think they were both full of it.
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:27 PM Stephen Russell 
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> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ycx9hFGHog
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