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Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Ricardo, I remember back when I was a young engineer and one particular man kept telling me to smile. You should have answered you'd give him a smile in exchange for 50 push ups. LOL... Back then it never occurred to me to make a joke out of it. I was irritated by the comment, and if I had turned it around instead I could have been grinning about the comeback. Yes, in retrospect things look easier than when you are in the middle of the situation and it's the first time. Most engineers back then never had some creepy old engineer looking down their blouse when they were trying to explain how they calculated some solution they were proposing. I was the only woman in my engineering group, and just didn't know how to respond when those sorts of things happened. Bugger! I would have loved an old (she) engineer looking down at my parts while I was trying to explain something difficult. I would have gotten away with murder! One of my biggest pleasures is watching my two stepdaughters and two daughters-in-law kick back in ways that never even occurred to me when I was their age. I'm happy beyond words at how many things have changed. Not one of them is a delicate little girl. Yes, sometimes I have to defend my daughter's boyfriend when she kicks him around too much. Another world altogether. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Larry, The hostility you've been showing lately is not becoming. Are things not going well... or at least worse than usual? Since when am I required to be becoming??? Hi Kristyne! Why, I do believe you are becoming as intolerant as you like to think we are. You will have to filter yourself to be consistent. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Yes, that is definitely a contridiction of terms. LOL Regards, LelandJ Helio Wakasugui wrote: Wow. A conservative right-wing creationist speaking about intellectual honesty. Which is the operative word? intellectual or honesty? HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: So if you are intellectually honest, you will understand that there is no way anyone with a conscience will not blindly follow the oman. Larry Miller ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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I take it then, that you have no answer? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 03:26:53 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Wow. A conservative right-wing creationist speaking about intellectual honesty. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Larry Miller wrote: So if you are intellectually honest, you will understand that there is no way anyone with a conscience will not blindly follow the oman. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 02:26:51 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Pete Theisen wrote: Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Obama is committed to doing everything in his power to curb Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, and Obama is committed to a stable, peaceful middle east. The idea that Obama is a terrorist, or of the Islamic Religion, or has some kind of extremist agenda Hi Leland! Just admit it, you think he is cute, and trendy - a rock star. He has no policy other than saying whatever it takes to get people to vote for him. He also thinks you bitterly cling to guns and religion. More Republican divisive rhetoric at a time when the country is so hungry to be made whole, and Senator Obama has just the right recipe. Regards, LelandJ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Now tell us what he did that was good for the country. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 03:36:31 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work I've already posted a link to Senator Obama's Wiki which list many many accomplishment, but to bring it up to date: Obama defeated Hillary Clinton, a 20 point favorite going into the primary election according to the polls, to become the democratic nominee for President of the United States. This is a very impressive accomplishment in itself. Senator Obama has raised more money in campaign contributions than any other presidential candidate in history, and he will turn out more voters for the 2008 elections than any other candidate in history. Again, this is quite an accomplishment. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: Leland. Name a few accomplishments of Barack Obama's career. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 10:21 PM Your a never ending stream of mindless, unsupported, disinformation critical of Democrats and Senator Obama in particular. Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: Despite his rants about Darfur, the obamessiah doesn't believe anything is worth fighting for. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 02:14:51 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work I call someone that is forced to pay taxes an irate taxpayer. LOL I pay taxes willingly, even though congress used some of my money for a war that was unnecessary, was launched based on mistaken information, and was a war in which I did not believe, but at least I didn't have to pay with my life. Everyone has to pay their fair share of the tax burden, even though it is congress that controls the purse string of the treasury, and spends the money as they see fit. Obama wasn't fooled by the mistaken intelligence that claimed Iraq was an imminent threat to the USA and middle east region due to thier having WMD, but he was in a vary small minority of congress on the war with Iraq issue. Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: What would you call it when you are forced to pay for something that is not a quality product? The key word is forced. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:21:21 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work I don't think using the word robbery in the context of funding public education is the right word, regardless of quality of a particular school. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: It is a form of robery when someone has to pay for lousy schools. * --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:10 PM Regarding your statement below, when was support for public education a form of robbery? Do you really think funding public education is a form of robbery, and if so, what are you implying should be done. They, (eg clear reference to public schools), may not rob us today, but what about tomorrow when they vote for the govt to take our money to give to them, rather than stick a gun in our face and take it themselves. Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: Are you suggesting that the public schools are so bad they should be bombed? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:48:49 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you suggesting we take a neo-conservative approach
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No requirement, although a good nights sleep may do you good. ;-) Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Kristyne McDaniel To: 'ProFox Email List' Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 03:46:08 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Larry, The hostility you've been showing lately is not becoming. Are things not going well... or at least worse than usual? Since when am I required to be becoming??? Kristyne --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Helio Wakasugui wrote: Pete is such a loser. He'll die alone and in poverty. He didn't have what it takes to be a jesuit, he didn't have what it takes to be a physician, he didn't have what it takes to be a democrat... And still a virgin. HW (using MadandGay style) On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Lee, You betcha! Sounds like a little Sarah Palin slang is rubbing off on you, Pete, but it doesn't suit you near as much as it does her. I no longer get Pete's messages. He went over my race-bait threshold and I no longer wish to read anything he has to say. Kristyne ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Because every R president has had to deal with the war that started on his watch because his D predecessor had failed to defuse the situation? You betcha! You betcha! Sounds like a little Sarah Palin slang is rubbing off on you, Pete, but it doesn't suit you near as much as it does her. Hi Leland! I put the Sarahism in not for my benefit, but for your benefit. And it worked! -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Wow... talk about glass half empty thinking... not to mention inaccurate. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 05:01:44 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Really! I'll tell the rest of the story: Michael Madigan wrote: 1. Biggest Tax Cuts in history for the wealthiest 2% of Americans. The tax cut contributed to the worst economic crisis since the great depression. 2. Removal of Saddam Hussein in an unnecessary war based on mistaken information that cost America dearly in terms of loss of life and limb by American soldiers, loss of life and property by the Iraqi people from an Administration extremely accepting of collateral damage, loss of USA prestige internationally, and loss of American treasure. Was Saddam worth it? 3. Removal of Taliban They're back stronger than ever, due to the loss of focus caused by the war with Iraq. 4. Got Libya to give up nuclear program How can you be sure; since, I'm not convence Kadaffi is mental competent to make a deal of such importance. Kadaffi made the deal before the first bomb ever landed on Iraq, and he likely had no nuclear program worth bothering inspectors. 5. 7.5 years of economic growth Based on a false economy that attempted to contain, or hide, the housing bubble, deficit spending that drove up the national debt and drove down the the value of the dollar to finance an unnecessary war with Iraq, a stock market that was like a house of cards, and finally a recession or economic down turn, a return of tax dollars to the American people to encourage spending to stimulate an economy in which nobody had any confidence. 6. No attack on homeland since 2001 The homeland will never be attack as long as we are looking for it. The terrorist will hit where we lest expect it. Pretty good, huh? Your not serious, are you? Regards, LelandJ * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 11:00 PM Your hero is President Bush. Name a few of his accomplishments, or any mistake he has made. LOL I'll never forget president Bush's responce when ask, during a press conference, to name a mistake he might have made, (eg ough, ough, I can't think of anything right now. I know I must have made some mistake, but I'm not fast on my feet today, and really can't think of anything) Dough! Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: I knew you couldn't name any. Don't feel bad, I can't name anything he's accomplished either. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 10:36 PM I've already posted a link to Senator Obama's Wiki which list many many accomplishment, but to bring it up to date: Obama defeated Hillary Clinton, a 20 point favorite going into the primary election according to the polls, to become the democratic nominee for President of the United States. This is a very impressive accomplishment in itself. Senator Obama has raised more money in campaign contributions than any other presidential candidate in history, and he will turn out more voters for the 2008 elections than any other candidate in history. Again, this is quite an accomplishment. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: Leland. Name a few accomplishments of Barack Obama's career. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 10:21 PM Your a never ending stream of mindless, unsupported, disinformation critical of Democrats and Senator Obama in particular. Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: Despite his rants
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Are you a creationist or not? HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I take it then, that you have no answer? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 03:26:53 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Wow. A conservative right-wing creationist speaking about intellectual honesty. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Larry Miller wrote: So if you are intellectually honest, you will understand that there is no way anyone with a conscience will not blindly follow the oman. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 02:26:51 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Pete Theisen wrote: Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Obama is committed to doing everything in his power to curb Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, and Obama is committed to a stable, peaceful middle east. The idea that Obama is a terrorist, or of the Islamic Religion, or has some kind of extremist agenda Hi Leland! Just admit it, you think he is cute, and trendy - a rock star. He has no policy other than saying whatever it takes to get people to vote for him. He also thinks you bitterly cling to guns and religion. More Republican divisive rhetoric at a time when the country is so hungry to be made whole, and Senator Obama has just the right recipe. Regards, LelandJ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Senator Obama has had outstanding accomplishment throughout his academic and political career, but I don't have time to research that for you today. Although Senator Obama's prior accomplishment are outstanding commensurate with the positions he has held, what is more important is what Senator Obama can and will accomplish with our help, if he is elected President of the USA. Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: I take it then, that you have no answer? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 03:26:53 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Wow. A conservative right-wing creationist speaking about intellectual honesty. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Larry Miller wrote: So if you are intellectually honest, you will understand that there is no way anyone with a conscience will not blindly follow the oman. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 02:26:51 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Pete Theisen wrote: Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Obama is committed to doing everything in his power to curb Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, and Obama is committed to a stable, peaceful middle east. The idea that Obama is a terrorist, or of the Islamic Religion, or has some kind of extremist agenda Hi Leland! Just admit it, you think he is cute, and trendy - a rock star. He has no policy other than saying whatever it takes to get people to vote for him. He also thinks you bitterly cling to guns and religion. More Republican divisive rhetoric at a time when the country is so hungry to be made whole, and Senator Obama has just the right recipe. Regards, LelandJ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: I've already posted a link to Senator Obama's Wiki which list many many accomplishment, but to bring it up to date: Obama defeated Hillary Clinton, a 20 point favorite going into the primary election according to the polls, to become the democratic nominee for President of the United States. This is a very impressive accomplishment in itself. Senator Obama has raised more money in campaign contributions than any other presidential candidate in history, and he will turn out more voters for the 2008 elections than any other candidate in history. Again, this is quite an accomplishment. Hi Leland! If you don't care where the money is coming from, and he doesn't, you can raise billions! Most of it is prepaid gift cards, the whole Islamic Jihad is bankrolling him. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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- Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work The payroll tax is to fund the worker's social security for his retirement. The money paid into SS is owned by the payer, and should not be used to fund government. The government is a trustee of Social Security fund with a fiduciary responsibility to manage the funds until they are needed by the individual upon retirement. It is a bad idea to commingle income taxes money with Social Security trust funds. Regards, LelandJ You are joking of course! There is not one cent in the Social Security system. Congress has written an IOU for every single penny. It is now a pay-as-you-go system. Congress is also raiding the highway fund which was meant to pay for infrastructure; the money is now going into the general fund. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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- Original Message - From: Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work The progressive tax system has served the tax lawyers and accountants well, as well as the members of congress who hold the keys to selecting winners and loosers in the system. Beyond that, I would beg to differ that those with more income get more from the govt. Those paying the least in taxes are riding free on all kinds of benefits that those with greater income don't get. Hence, just the idea of a progressive income tax is a redistributionist plan. Larry Miller So true. There are legions of lawyers and accountants who spend their entire careers figuring out all the angles in the tax code to reduce their clients payments. In one fell swoop we could reduce this waste by simply not taxing corporations. They are not human beings. We should have some kind of national sales tax so that humans who consume the final product are the ones paying the tax. Then rather than hiding all the many layers of taxes we pay, it would be clear to the final consumer exactly what they are paying to the government. It would induce corporations to remain in the U.S. and not move out to other countries. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Nicholas Geti wrote: - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work The payroll tax is to fund the worker's social security for his retirement. The money paid into SS is owned by the payer, and should not be used to fund government. The government is a trustee of Social Security fund with a fiduciary responsibility to manage the funds until they are needed by the individual upon retirement. It is a bad idea to commingle income taxes money with Social Security trust funds. Regards, LelandJ You are joking of course! There is not one cent in the Social Security system. Congress has written an IOU for every single penny. It is now a pay-as-you-go system. Congress is also raiding the highway fund which was meant to pay for infrastructure; the money is now going into the general fund. The Social Security System can, and should, be fixed. Since Social Security is a special trust fund, I assume it is separate form the general fund. It seems any moneys transferred out of the SS fund to the general fund would create a receivable on the SS fund for money due back from the general fund and a payable in the general fund for money payable to the SS Fund. Spending from the general fund should follow budget appropriations passed by congress and signed by the President. There is nothing I know that would prevent congress from moving appropriations out of one budget category in the general fund into another budget category of the general fund, as long as congress and the president approve the changes. Regards, LelandJ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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- Original Message - From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 5:47 PM Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you too stupid to realize that Washington DC spends $11,000 per student and they still suck? I guess you are that stupid. There is a good article in The Atlantic, The Lightning Rod, by Clay Risen (pg. 78, Nov. 2008) about the new chancellor, Michelle Rhee who has taken over Washington, D.C. schools. The article tells about the rampant waste and corruption that was going on and how she is going about fixing it. Only 43% of the students graduated from high school in five years and only 9% obtained a college degree within five years after high school. A remarkable story. Now she is getting flak from the very parents whose children she is trying to help. Stupid. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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- Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Your hero is President Bush. Name a few of his accomplishments, or any mistake he has made. LOL I'll never forget president Bush's responce when ask, during a press conference, to name a mistake he might have made, (eg ough, ough, I can't think of anything right now. I know I must have made some mistake, but I'm not fast on my feet today, and really can't think of anything) Dough! Regards, LelandJ (An aside, Leland, don't you ever trim messages?) I'll name one accomplishment: he has donated enormous amounts to fight AIDS in Africa. Many countries there praise him highly. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Michael Madigan wrote: I knew you couldn't name any. Don't feel bad, I can't name anything he's accomplished either. Hi Michael! He has managed to fool about half the people, that is an accomplishment of sorts. He also has almost 97% of the blacks thinking that his 1/6 black background makes him like them. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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- Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:21:21 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work I don't think using the word robbery in the context of funding public education is the right word, regardless of quality of a particular school. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: It is a form of robery when someone has to pay for lousy schools. Is robery when some pervert uses robes? (bloody illiterate b..d) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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If, by that question, you are asking if I am stupid and foolish enough to believe that this earth, solar system and all the creatures on it came about by cosmic chance... I am not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:13:41 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you a creationist or not? HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Larry Miller wrote: I take it then, that you have no answer? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 03:26:53 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Wow. A conservative right-wing creationist speaking about intellectual honesty. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Larry Miller wrote: So if you are intellectually honest, you will understand that there is no way anyone with a conscience will not blindly follow the oman. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 02:26:51 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Pete Theisen wrote: Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Obama is committed to doing everything in his power to curb Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, and Obama is committed to a stable, peaceful middle east. The idea that Obama is a terrorist, or of the Islamic Religion, or has some kind of extremist agenda Hi Leland! Just admit it, you think he is cute, and trendy - a rock star. He has no policy other than saying whatever it takes to get people to vote for him. He also thinks you bitterly cling to guns and religion. More Republican divisive rhetoric at a time when the country is so hungry to be made whole, and Senator Obama has just the right recipe. Regards, LelandJ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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So he's never done any real work. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:14:10 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Senator Obama has had outstanding accomplishment throughout his academic and political career, but I don't have time to research that for you today. Although Senator Obama's prior accomplishment are outstanding commensurate with the positions he has held, what is more important is what Senator Obama can and will accomplish with our help, if he is elected President of the USA. Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: I take it then, that you have no answer? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 03:26:53 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Wow. A conservative right-wing creationist speaking about intellectual honesty. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Larry Miller wrote: So if you are intellectually honest, you will understand that there is no way anyone with a conscience will not blindly follow the oman. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 02:26:51 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Pete Theisen wrote: Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Obama is committed to doing everything in his power to curb Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, and Obama is committed to a stable, peaceful middle east. The idea that Obama is a terrorist, or of the Islamic Religion, or has some kind of extremist agenda Hi Leland! Just admit it, you think he is cute, and trendy - a rock star. He has no policy other than saying whatever it takes to get people to vote for him. He also thinks you bitterly cling to guns and religion. More Republican divisive rhetoric at a time when the country is so hungry to be made whole, and Senator Obama has just the right recipe. Regards, LelandJ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Helio, Pete is such a loser. He'll die alone and in poverty. And still a virgin. Men like Pete think women are receptacles that talk. What woman wants a man that thinks like that? Hi Everybody! Nice to know that Kristyne is so able to generalize about men like me. Someone ask her what she thinks of men in general. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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No, I'm asking if you are stupid and foolish enough to believe that the universe was created by magic as described in myths made up by men who lived in the bronze age. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: If, by that question, you are asking if I am stupid and foolish enough to believe that this earth, solar system and all the creatures on it came about by cosmic chance... I am not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:13:41 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you a creationist or not? HW -- Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. - Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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You obviously never had a conversation with your creator... sad. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:59:38 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work No, I'm asking if you are stupid and foolish enough to believe that the universe was created by magic as described in myths made up by men who lived in the bronze age. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Larry Miller wrote: If, by that question, you are asking if I am stupid and foolish enough to believe that this earth, solar system and all the creatures on it came about by cosmic chance... I am not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:13:41 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you a creationist or not? HW -- Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. - Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Really! I'll tell the rest of the story: Michael Madigan wrote: 1. Biggest Tax Cuts in history for the wealthiest 2% of Americans. The tax cut contributed to the worst economic crisis since the great depression. Hi Leland! The only revenue neutral or revenue positive type of cut possible, unfortunately. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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The new FU, go filter yourself! Hi Kristyne! Why, I do believe you are becoming as intolerant as you like to think we are. You will have to filter yourself to be consistent. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On Nov 3, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Helio Wakasugui wrote: No, I'm asking if you are stupid and foolish enough to believe that the universe was created by magic as described in myths made up by men who lived in the bronze age. I'm always curious how the magician came to be. I mean, the universe is pretty complex, but a being that could create such complexity out of nothing must be even more amazing and complex! Now if a universe cannot simply arise without a guiding hand, surely that even more complex guiding hand could not have possibly come to be without an even greater, more complex creator. Hmmm... I smell an infinite loop here. I guess we'll have to pick an arbitrary level of complexity that we'll accept as believable. Now doesn't it sound 'stupid and foolish' to accept that the more complex entity could always exist, but that the less complex universe couldn't have possibly always existed. http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA100.html -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Buzzz. Trick question. There aren't any accomplisments. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 10:14 AM Senator Obama has had outstanding accomplishment throughout his academic and political career, but I don't have time to research that for you today. Although Senator Obama's prior accomplishment are outstanding commensurate with the positions he has held, what is more important is what Senator Obama can and will accomplish with our help, if he is elected President of the USA. Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: I take it then, that you have no answer? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 03:26:53 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Wow. A conservative right-wing creationist speaking about intellectual honesty. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Larry Miller wrote: So if you are intellectually honest, you will understand that there is no way anyone with a conscience will not blindly follow the oman. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 02:26:51 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Pete Theisen wrote: Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Obama is committed to doing everything in his power to curb Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, and Obama is committed to a stable, peaceful middle east. The idea that Obama is a terrorist, or of the Islamic Religion, or has some kind of extremist agenda Hi Leland! Just admit it, you think he is cute, and trendy - a rock star. He has no policy other than saying whatever it takes to get people to vote for him. He also thinks you bitterly cling to guns and religion. More Republican divisive rhetoric at a time when the country is so hungry to be made whole, and Senator Obama has just the right recipe. Regards, LelandJ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Yep, only a Korean lady can clean up an African-American mess. LOL * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Nicholas Geti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Nicholas Geti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 11:17 AM - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 5:47 PM Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you too stupid to realize that Washington DC spends $11,000 per student and they still suck? I guess you are that stupid. There is a good article in The Atlantic, The Lightning Rod, by Clay Risen (pg. 78, Nov. 2008) about the new chancellor, Michelle Rhee who has taken over Washington, D.C. schools. The article tells about the rampant waste and corruption that was going on and how she is going about fixing it. Only 43% of the students graduated from high school in five years and only 9% obtained a college degree within five years after high school. A remarkable story. Now she is getting flak from the very parents whose children she is trying to help. Stupid. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Do you mean you actually talk to yourself and/or hear voices inside your head? Sad... HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: You obviously never had a conversation with your creator... sad. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:59:38 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work No, I'm asking if you are stupid and foolish enough to believe that the universe was created by magic as described in myths made up by men who lived in the bronze age. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Larry Miller wrote: If, by that question, you are asking if I am stupid and foolish enough to believe that this earth, solar system and all the creatures on it came about by cosmic chance... I am not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:13:41 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you a creationist or not? HW -- Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. - Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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No psychopated people do that... you know, the type that think they came from slime. Wait a minute... maybe some do come from slime. I, however, did not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:01:49 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Do you mean you actually talk to yourself and/or hear voices inside your head? Sad... HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Larry Miller wrote: You obviously never had a conversation with your creator... sad. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:59:38 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work No, I'm asking if you are stupid and foolish enough to believe that the universe was created by magic as described in myths made up by men who lived in the bronze age. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Larry Miller wrote: If, by that question, you are asking if I am stupid and foolish enough to believe that this earth, solar system and all the creatures on it came about by cosmic chance... I am not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:13:41 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you a creationist or not? HW -- Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. - Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Not coincidently, Obama has the Atheist A-hole vote locked up. It's funny that Atheists tend to support Communists. I wonder why that is. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 12:08 PM On Nov 3, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Helio Wakasugui wrote: No, I'm asking if you are stupid and foolish enough to believe that the universe was created by magic as described in myths made up by men who lived in the bronze age. I'm always curious how the magician came to be. I mean, the universe is pretty complex, but a being that could create such complexity out of nothing must be even more amazing and complex! Now if a universe cannot simply arise without a guiding hand, surely that even more complex guiding hand could not have possibly come to be without an even greater, more complex creator. Hmmm... I smell an infinite loop here. I guess we'll have to pick an arbitrary level of complexity that we'll accept as believable. Now doesn't it sound 'stupid and foolish' to accept that the more complex entity could always exist, but that the less complex universe couldn't have possibly always existed. http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA100.html -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Obama is committed to doing everything in his power to curb Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, and Obama is committed to a stable, peaceful middle east. The idea that Obama is a terrorist, or of the Islamic Religion, or has some kind of extremist agenda Hi Leland! Just admit it, you think he is cute, and trendy - a rock star. He has no policy other than saying whatever it takes to get people to vote for him. He also thinks you bitterly cling to guns and religion. More Republican divisive rhetoric at a time when the country is so hungry to be made whole, and Senator Obama has just the right recipe. Hi Leland! He offers no details. You do, but they are your details, not his - he himself has made no commitment. We had a girl the other day insisting that he was going to take care of her mortgage for her! That is HOPE, but there will be unspecified change. You had better cling to guns and religion. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Larry, The hostility you've been showing lately is not becoming. Are things not going well... or at least worse than usual? Since when am I required to be becoming??? Kristyne Hey!!! Nobody ever asked me that! And I'm rey not becoming. I feel discriminated. ;c) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Yeah, you were magically created from dirt... HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: No psychopated people do that... you know, the type that think they came from slime. Wait a minute... maybe some do come from slime. I, however, did not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:01:49 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Do you mean you actually talk to yourself and/or hear voices inside your head? Sad... HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Larry Miller wrote: You obviously never had a conversation with your creator... sad. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:59:38 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work No, I'm asking if you are stupid and foolish enough to believe that the universe was created by magic as described in myths made up by men who lived in the bronze age. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Larry Miller wrote: If, by that question, you are asking if I am stupid and foolish enough to believe that this earth, solar system and all the creatures on it came about by cosmic chance... I am not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:13:41 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you a creationist or not? HW -- Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. - Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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It really bothers you, doesn't it? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:58:29 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Yeah, you were magically created from dirt... HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Larry Miller wrote: No psychopated people do that... you know, the type that think they came from slime. Wait a minute... maybe some do come from slime. I, however, did not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:01:49 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Do you mean you actually talk to yourself and/or hear voices inside your head? Sad... HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Larry Miller wrote: You obviously never had a conversation with your creator... sad. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:59:38 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work No, I'm asking if you are stupid and foolish enough to believe that the universe was created by magic as described in myths made up by men who lived in the bronze age. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Larry Miller wrote: If, by that question, you are asking if I am stupid and foolish enough to believe that this earth, solar system and all the creatures on it came about by cosmic chance... I am not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:13:41 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you a creationist or not? HW -- Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. - Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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It only bothers me when people like you try to teach intelligent design (creationism BS) at schools. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It really bothers you, doesn't it? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:58:29 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Yeah, you were magically created from dirt... HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Larry Miller wrote: No psychopated people do that... you know, the type that think they came from slime. Wait a minute... maybe some do come from slime. I, however, did not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:01:49 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Do you mean you actually talk to yourself and/or hear voices inside your head? Sad... HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Larry Miller wrote: You obviously never had a conversation with your creator... sad. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:59:38 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work No, I'm asking if you are stupid and foolish enough to believe that the universe was created by magic as described in myths made up by men who lived in the bronze age. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Larry Miller wrote: If, by that question, you are asking if I am stupid and foolish enough to believe that this earth, solar system and all the creatures on it came about by cosmic chance... I am not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:13:41 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you a creationist or not? HW -- Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. - Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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I thought libs were supposed to be pushing openmindedness. If intelligent design is so foolish, why are you afraid of it? It will fall by it's own weight. But, like Algore, you are afraid of questions. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:37:06 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work It only bothers me when people like you try to teach intelligent design (creationism BS) at schools. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Larry Miller wrote: It really bothers you, doesn't it? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:58:29 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Yeah, you were magically created from dirt... HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Larry Miller wrote: No psychopated people do that... you know, the type that think they came from slime. Wait a minute... maybe some do come from slime. I, however, did not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:01:49 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Do you mean you actually talk to yourself and/or hear voices inside your head? Sad... HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Larry Miller wrote: You obviously never had a conversation with your creator... sad. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:59:38 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work No, I'm asking if you are stupid and foolish enough to believe that the universe was created by magic as described in myths made up by men who lived in the bronze age. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Larry Miller wrote: If, by that question, you are asking if I am stupid and foolish enough to believe that this earth, solar system and all the creatures on it came about by cosmic chance... I am not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:13:41 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you a creationist or not? HW -- Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. - Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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If God doesn't exist, why are you so threatened by him? If Jesus was just a regular guy, why are you so threatened by him? If there is no Hell, why are you so afraid of it? If you have no mortal soul, why are you so worried about it? Funny, I don't believe in the Hindu Gods, but I don't care if Hindus believe in them. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 5:08 PM I thought libs were supposed to be pushing openmindedness. If intelligent design is so foolish, why are you afraid of it? It will fall by it's own weight. But, like Algore, you are afraid of questions. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:37:06 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work It only bothers me when people like you try to teach intelligent design (creationism BS) at schools. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Larry Miller wrote: It really bothers you, doesn't it? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:58:29 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Yeah, you were magically created from dirt... HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Larry Miller wrote: No psychopated people do that... you know, the type that think they came from slime. Wait a minute... maybe some do come from slime. I, however, did not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:01:49 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Do you mean you actually talk to yourself and/or hear voices inside your head? Sad... HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Larry Miller wrote: You obviously never had a conversation with your creator... sad. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:59:38 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work No, I'm asking if you are stupid and foolish enough to believe that the universe was created by magic as described in myths made up by men who lived in the bronze age. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Larry Miller wrote: If, by that question, you are asking if I am stupid and foolish enough to believe that this earth, solar system and all the creatures on it came about by cosmic chance... I am not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:13:41 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you a creationist or not? HW -- Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. - Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Ricardo, Hey!!! Nobody ever asked me that! And I'm rey not becoming. I feel discriminated. ;c) Nobody ever tells a man that their behavior is not becoming... I remember back when I was a young engineer and one particular man kept telling me to smile. I never in my life wanted my primary purpose to be decorative. My husband tells me that's why I got so fat. Fortunately, I've lost 60 lbs and am continuing on my way down to my former size. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Larry, No requirement, although a good nights sleep may do you good. ;-) That was probably a good idea. I got 11 hours of sleep last night and I do feel much better. I must have been exhausted. I'm sure I'll feel even better on Wednesday morning, once I know the election results. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Better not count on that. LOL * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 5:43 PM Larry, No requirement, although a good nights sleep may do you good. ;-) That was probably a good idea. I got 11 hours of sleep last night and I do feel much better. I must have been exhausted. I'm sure I'll feel even better on Wednesday morning, once I know the election results. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Actually smiling makes you happy. Try it sometime. :) * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 5:39 PM Ricardo, Hey!!! Nobody ever asked me that! And I'm rey not becoming. I feel discriminated. ;c) Nobody ever tells a man that their behavior is not becoming... I remember back when I was a young engineer and one particular man kept telling me to smile. I never in my life wanted my primary purpose to be decorative. My husband tells me that's why I got so fat. Fortunately, I've lost 60 lbs and am continuing on my way down to my former size. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Yeah, I'm affraid of questions like have you ever seen a crocoduck? HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I thought libs were supposed to be pushing openmindedness. If intelligent design is so foolish, why are you afraid of it? It will fall by it's own weight. But, like Algore, you are afraid of questions. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:37:06 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work It only bothers me when people like you try to teach intelligent design (creationism BS) at schools. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Larry Miller wrote: It really bothers you, doesn't it? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:58:29 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Yeah, you were magically created from dirt... HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Larry Miller wrote: No psychopated people do that... you know, the type that think they came from slime. Wait a minute... maybe some do come from slime. I, however, did not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:01:49 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Do you mean you actually talk to yourself and/or hear voices inside your head? Sad... HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Larry Miller wrote: You obviously never had a conversation with your creator... sad. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:59:38 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work No, I'm asking if you are stupid and foolish enough to believe that the universe was created by magic as described in myths made up by men who lived in the bronze age. HW On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Larry Miller wrote: If, by that question, you are asking if I am stupid and foolish enough to believe that this earth, solar system and all the creatures on it came about by cosmic chance... I am not. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui To: ProFox Email List Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:13:41 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you a creationist or not? HW -- Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. - Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Ricardo, Hey!!! Nobody ever asked me that! And I'm rey not becoming. I feel discriminated. ;c) Nobody ever tells a man that their behavior is not becoming... I know. I remember back when I was a young engineer and one particular man kept telling me to smile. You should have answered you'd give him a smile in exchange for 50 push ups. I never in my life wanted my primary purpose to be decorative. I never in my life questioned my primary purpose! I don't think I have one. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Obama was a member of Congress when the war on Iraq was declared? ::michael Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: I call someone that is forced to pay taxes an irate taxpayer. LOL I pay taxes willingly, even though congress used some of my money for a war that was unnecessary, was launched based on mistaken information, and was a war in which I did not believe, but at least I didn't have to pay with my life. Everyone has to pay their fair share of the tax burden, even though it is congress that controls the purse string of the treasury, and spends the money as they see fit. Obama wasn't fooled by the mistaken intelligence that claimed Iraq was an imminent threat to the USA and middle east region due to thier having WMD, but he was in a vary small minority of congress on the war with Iraq issue. Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: What would you call it when you are forced to pay for something that is not a quality product? The key word is forced. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:21:21 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work I don't think using the word robbery in the context of funding public education is the right word, regardless of quality of a particular school. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: It is a form of robery when someone has to pay for lousy schools. * --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:10 PM Regarding your statement below, when was support for public education a form of robbery? Do you really think funding public education is a form of robbery, and if so, what are you implying should be done. They, (eg clear reference to public schools), may not rob us today, but what about tomorrow when they vote for the govt to take our money to give to them, rather than stick a gun in our face and take it themselves. Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: Are you suggesting that the public schools are so bad they should be bombed? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:48:49 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you suggesting we take a neo-conservative approach to these kinds of potential problems, and begin per-emptive war against the public school system to eliminate all possible future threats? As Senator John McCain put it in rhyme and rhythm; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb Iran, or as you might put it; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb public schools. LOL Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: If some parts of society were not falling apart, not breaking into a house would not be remarkable. So why is this such an accomplishment for public schools? They may not rob us today, but what about tomorrow when they vote for the govt to take our money to give to them, rather than stick a gun in our face and take it themselves. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Kristyne McDaniel To: 'ProFox Email List' Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 01:33:52 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work John, We home schooled our kids, so that means we paid taxes and didn't get the benefits. Sure you did. Think of all the kids that went to school during the day instead of robbing your house. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions
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He voted Present. LOL * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Michael Oke, II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael Oke, II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 7:08 PM Obama was a member of Congress when the war on Iraq was declared? ::michael Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: I call someone that is forced to pay taxes an irate taxpayer. LOL I pay taxes willingly, even though congress used some of my money for a war that was unnecessary, was launched based on mistaken information, and was a war in which I did not believe, but at least I didn't have to pay with my life. Everyone has to pay their fair share of the tax burden, even though it is congress that controls the purse string of the treasury, and spends the money as they see fit. Obama wasn't fooled by the mistaken intelligence that claimed Iraq was an imminent threat to the USA and middle east region due to thier having WMD, but he was in a vary small minority of congress on the war with Iraq issue. Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: What would you call it when you are forced to pay for something that is not a quality product? The key word is forced. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:21:21 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work I don't think using the word robbery in the context of funding public education is the right word, regardless of quality of a particular school. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: It is a form of robery when someone has to pay for lousy schools. * --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:10 PM Regarding your statement below, when was support for public education a form of robbery? Do you really think funding public education is a form of robbery, and if so, what are you implying should be done. They, (eg clear reference to public schools), may not rob us today, but what about tomorrow when they vote for the govt to take our money to give to them, rather than stick a gun in our face and take it themselves. Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: Are you suggesting that the public schools are so bad they should be bombed? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:48:49 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you suggesting we take a neo-conservative approach to these kinds of potential problems, and begin per-emptive war against the public school system to eliminate all possible future threats? As Senator John McCain put it in rhyme and rhythm; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb Iran, or as you might put it; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb public schools. LOL Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: If some parts of society were not falling apart, not breaking into a house would not be remarkable. So why is this such an accomplishment for public schools? They may not rob us today, but what about tomorrow when they vote for the govt to take our money to give to them, rather than stick a gun in our face and take it themselves. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Kristyne McDaniel To: 'ProFox Email List' Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 01:33:52 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work John, We home schooled our kids, so that means we paid taxes and didn't get the benefits. Sure you did. Think of all the kids that went to school during the day instead of robbing your house. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford
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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Senator Obama has had outstanding accomplishment throughout his academic and political career, but I don't have time to research that for you today. Although Senator Obama's prior accomplishment are outstanding commensurate with the positions he has held, what is more important is what Senator Obama can and will accomplish with our help, if he is elected President of the USA. Hi Leland! What? Has the asshole even introduced one bill? He didn't even write his own books, got some pinko commie to ghostwrite them. He may not even have fathered his own children, for all anyone knows. Let's DNA them on the Maury Povitch show. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Ricardo, I remember back when I was a young engineer and one particular man kept telling me to smile. You should have answered you'd give him a smile in exchange for 50 push ups. LOL... Back then it never occurred to me to make a joke out of it. I was irritated by the comment, and if I had turned it around instead I could have been grinning about the comeback. Most engineers back then never had some creepy old engineer looking down their blouse when they were trying to explain how they calculated some solution they were proposing. I was the only woman in my engineering group, and just didn't know how to respond when those sorts of things happened. One of my biggest pleasures is watching my two stepdaughters and two daughters-in-law kick back in ways that never even occurred to me when I was their age. I'm happy beyond words at how many things have changed. Not one of them is a delicate little girl. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: You are joking of course! There is not one cent in the Social Security system. Congress has written an IOU for every single penny. It is now a pay-as-you-go system. Congress is also raiding the highway fund which was meant to pay for infrastructure; the money is now going into the general fund. The Social Security System can, and should, be fixed. Since Social Security is a special trust fund, I assume it is separate form Hi Leland! Yeah, the lock box idea. With Kerry, Gore and Osama holding the key. Works fine for the Ds. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Nicholas Geti wrote: So true. There are legions of lawyers and accountants who spend their entire careers figuring out all the angles in the tax code to reduce their clients payments. In one fell swoop we could reduce this waste by simply not taxing corporations. They are not human beings. We should have some kind of national sales tax so that humans who consume the final product are the ones paying the tax. Then rather than hiding all the many layers of taxes we pay, it would be clear to the final consumer exactly what they are paying to the government. It would induce corporations to remain in the U.S. and not move out to other countries. Hi Nicholas! If they ever do go to a national sales tax it will be on top of rather than instead of all the taxes we have now. As sure as there is one D left alive. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Pete Theisen wrote: Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Senator Obama has had outstanding accomplishment throughout his academic and political career, but I don't have time to research that for you today. Although Senator Obama's prior accomplishment are outstanding commensurate with the positions he has held, what is more important is what Senator Obama can and will accomplish with our help, if he is elected President of the USA. Hi Leland! What? Has the asshole even introduced one bill? He didn't even write his own books, got some pinko commie to ghostwrite them. He may not even have fathered his own children, for all anyone knows. Let's DNA them on the Maury Povitch show. You sound a little bitter Pete. Are you clinging to your guns and religion? Regards, LelandJ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Why can't you just answer the question, Mr. Obama? What have you accomplished? * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 7:31 PM Pete Theisen wrote: Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Senator Obama has had outstanding accomplishment throughout his academic and political career, but I don't have time to research that for you today. Although Senator Obama's prior accomplishment are outstanding commensurate with the positions he has held, what is more important is what Senator Obama can and will accomplish with our help, if he is elected President of the USA. Hi Leland! What? Has the asshole even introduced one bill? He didn't even write his own books, got some pinko commie to ghostwrite them. He may not even have fathered his own children, for all anyone knows. Let's DNA them on the Maury Povitch show. You sound a little bitter Pete. Are you clinging to your guns and religion? Regards, LelandJ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Senator Obama has had outstanding accomplishment throughout his academic and political career, but I don't have time to research that for you today. Although Senator Obama's prior accomplishment are outstanding commensurate with the positions he has held, what is more important is what Senator Obama can and will accomplish with our help, if he is elected President of the USA. What? Has the asshole even introduced one bill? He didn't even write his own books, got some pinko commie to ghostwrite them. He may not even have fathered his own children, for all anyone knows. Let's DNA them on the Maury Povitch show. You sound a little bitter Pete. Are you clinging to your guns and religion? Hi Leland! You sound like you don't want to stay on the subject. Has the asshole EVER done anything concrete. Working as a community organizer is nothing. I know, I have held that job myself. Academe is also nothing, law is nothing - expensive, but nothing. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Well he allegedly impregnated the America-hater twice. But I haven't seen the paternity tests either. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 8:06 PM Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Senator Obama has had outstanding accomplishment throughout his academic and political career, but I don't have time to research that for you today. Although Senator Obama's prior accomplishment are outstanding commensurate with the positions he has held, what is more important is what Senator Obama can and will accomplish with our help, if he is elected President of the USA. What? Has the asshole even introduced one bill? He didn't even write his own books, got some pinko commie to ghostwrite them. He may not even have fathered his own children, for all anyone knows. Let's DNA them on the Maury Povitch show. You sound a little bitter Pete. Are you clinging to your guns and religion? Hi Leland! You sound like you don't want to stay on the subject. Has the asshole EVER done anything concrete. Working as a community organizer is nothing. I know, I have held that job myself. Academe is also nothing, law is nothing - expensive, but nothing. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Obama is committed to doing everything in his power to curb Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, and Obama is committed to a stable, peaceful middle east. The idea that Obama is a terrorist, or of the Islamic Religion, or has some kind of extremist agenda is a scare tactic being spread around the internet to persuade voters to support Senator John McCain for President. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: Sure he is. That's why he pals around with PLO terrorists. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 4:05 PM I think the USA needs an alliance/treaty with Israel that make it clear that aggression against Israel would be the same as aggression against the USA. I think Obama is a believer in Israel's sovereignty and a believer in the Israeli people. He would support/protect Israel against aggression, but a good dose of Obama diplomacy might avoid the need for people to raise arms against people. The diplomatic route should be the preferred way, and aggression only if there is no other way. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: The first thing Obama will do is give the green light to Iran to invade Israel while we stand by and let it happen. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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If some parts of society were not falling apart, not breaking into a house would not be remarkable. So why is this such an accomplishment for public schools? They may not rob us today, but what about tomorrow when they vote for the govt to take our money to give to them, rather than stick a gun in our face and take it themselves. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Kristyne McDaniel To: 'ProFox Email List' Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 01:33:52 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work John, We home schooled our kids, so that means we paid taxes and didn't get the benefits. Sure you did. Think of all the kids that went to school during the day instead of robbing your house. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Sure. He's best friends with Bill Ayers who dedicated his book to Sirhan Sirhan, a Palestinian assassin of Bobby Kennedy. He's best friends with Khalidi, a PLO Terrorist. He's best friends with screwey Louis Farrakhan, a Jew-Hater. He belongs to a church run by a Jew-hater like Rev. Wright. But he's still a friend of the Jew, right? * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 4:16 PM Obama is committed to doing everything in his power to curb Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, and Obama is committed to a stable, peaceful middle east. The idea that Obama is a terrorist, or of the Islamic Religion, or has some kind of extremist agenda is a scare tactic being spread around the internet to persuade voters to support Senator John McCain for President. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: Sure he is. That's why he pals around with PLO terrorists. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 4:05 PM I think the USA needs an alliance/treaty with Israel that make it clear that aggression against Israel would be the same as aggression against the USA. I think Obama is a believer in Israel's sovereignty and a believer in the Israeli people. He would support/protect Israel against aggression, but a good dose of Obama diplomacy might avoid the need for people to raise arms against people. The diplomatic route should be the preferred way, and aggression only if there is no other way. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: The first thing Obama will do is give the green light to Iran to invade Israel while we stand by and let it happen. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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How long do you think those with the highest income would continue to thrive in a country that did not have a strong military, a supreme court and justice system, a stable economy, law and order, and all the other services government provides? Those with the highest income, or those with a background coning from the wealthiest dynasties, have a lot more to lose than the average citizen, should government fail, or God forbid, fall in revolt, revolution, or war, from within or outside the USA, and a guy living on the streets could care less, so yes, those who have most should contribute most to the system. As the bible says, To whom much is given, much is expected. - Luke 12:48. Its time for the top 2% of the country to stop being so selfish and greedy, and start putting more back into the system. It's time to put country, and the American people, ahead of self, (eg selfish and greedy come to mind here). Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: The progressive tax system has served the tax lawyers and accountants well, as well as the members of congress who hold the keys to selecting winners and loosers in the system. Beyond that, I would beg to differ that those with more income get more from the govt. Those paying the least in taxes are riding free on all kinds of benefits that those with greater income don't get. Hence, just the idea of a progressive income tax is a redistributionist plan. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:08:21 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work A progressive income tax is not really giving my money away to someone else. Its about how much each person pays in income tax for government services received. Under a progressive income tax, the greater my income, the greater my contribution to the government, but then the greater my income, the greater the value of the government services I receive. This is only fair; since, the wealthiest individual receive more benefits from the government, than say someone working for a minimum wage that really doesn't have that much to lose. I've heard a lot of bitching and complaining about how complex and taxing the current system is with many calling for a flat tax where everybody pay a flat percentage of their income to Uncle Sam. The amount of tax paid under a flat tax increases as the income level of the individual increases, but the rate of tax remain the same based on the tax as a percentage of income. Well, let's really make thing simple and have everyone pay a flat $1,000 tax; period. Now wouldn't that be simple. There wouldn't even be a need to file an income tax return; since, the amount of income a person earned would not be relevant to the tax calculation. Under such a tax, the homeless guy who has zero income and Bill Gates who earns billions would both be required to pay $1,000 in taxes. With something over 300 million people in the USA, this would theoretically bring in about 3 trillion in tax revenue each year. See how simple it gets. However, is a flat amount tax fair? I'll answer my own question. It's not only unfair, it not a viable system and would quickly wreck our economy. Although a flat rate tax as a percentage of income is not as extreme as a flat amount tax, they are both unfair and difficult to administer; because, people in different income level have very different needs. I suppose an entire book could be written on this subject, including the concept of diminishing return as it applies to income level, but I don't have time to get into that today, but saying Senator Obama's tax plan is a tax give of anyones income by government distribution is not true. The progressive tax system in the USA has served Americans well over many, many, year, so why change a good thing. The Bush Administration change in tax policy adversely affected the USA economy to the point that America is now in a recession, and the Bush tax changes resulted in a economic stimulus package to returned millions of income tax dollars back to the American people, so they had enough reward in the GDP to participate by consuming some of the products they labored so hard to produce. Remember, the American consumer helps drive the economy, and helps to create the wealth held in the hand of big Corporations, management, and super wealthy individuals, and the bulk of consumption of good is service takes place by middle income folks. LOL Senator Obama's suggested tax policy is just to return the tax system back to a point where it is balanced and functioning again. Regards, LelandJ John wrote: No kidding today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read 'Vote Obama, I need the money.' I laughed. I got into the restaurant and again no kidding my server had on a 'Obama
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I just hope they only lay off Obama supporters. --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 4:33 PM How long do you think those with the highest income would continue to thrive in a country that did not have a strong military, a supreme court and justice system, a stable economy, law and order, and all the other services government provides? Those with the highest income, or those with a background coning from the wealthiest dynasties, have a lot more to lose than the average citizen, should government fail, or God forbid, fall in revolt, revolution, or war, from within or outside the USA, and a guy living on the streets could care less, so yes, those who have most should contribute most to the system. As the bible says, To whom much is given, much is expected. - Luke 12:48. Its time for the top 2% of the country to stop being so selfish and greedy, and start putting more back into the system. It's time to put country, and the American people, ahead of self, (eg selfish and greedy come to mind here). Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: The progressive tax system has served the tax lawyers and accountants well, as well as the members of congress who hold the keys to selecting winners and loosers in the system. Beyond that, I would beg to differ that those with more income get more from the govt. Those paying the least in taxes are riding free on all kinds of benefits that those with greater income don't get. Hence, just the idea of a progressive income tax is a redistributionist plan. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:08:21 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work A progressive income tax is not really giving my money away to someone else. Its about how much each person pays in income tax for government services received. Under a progressive income tax, the greater my income, the greater my contribution to the government, but then the greater my income, the greater the value of the government services I receive. This is only fair; since, the wealthiest individual receive more benefits from the government, than say someone working for a minimum wage that really doesn't have that much to lose. I've heard a lot of bitching and complaining about how complex and taxing the current system is with many calling for a flat tax where everybody pay a flat percentage of their income to Uncle Sam. The amount of tax paid under a flat tax increases as the income level of the individual increases, but the rate of tax remain the same based on the tax as a percentage of income. Well, let's really make thing simple and have everyone pay a flat $1,000 tax; period. Now wouldn't that be simple. There wouldn't even be a need to file an income tax return; since, the amount of income a person earned would not be relevant to the tax calculation. Under such a tax, the homeless guy who has zero income and Bill Gates who earns billions would both be required to pay $1,000 in taxes. With something over 300 million people in the USA, this would theoretically bring in about 3 trillion in tax revenue each year. See how simple it gets. However, is a flat amount tax fair? I'll answer my own question. It's not only unfair, it not a viable system and would quickly wreck our economy. Although a flat rate tax as a percentage of income is not as extreme as a flat amount tax, they are both unfair and difficult to administer; because, people in different income level have very different needs. I suppose an entire book could be written on this subject, including the concept of diminishing return as it applies to income level, but I don't have time to get into that today, but saying Senator Obama's tax plan is a tax give of anyones income by government distribution is not true. The progressive tax system in the USA has served Americans well over many, many, year, so why change a good thing. The Bush Administration change in tax policy adversely affected the USA economy to the point that America is now in a recession, and the Bush tax changes resulted in a economic stimulus package to returned millions of income tax dollars back to the American people, so they had enough reward in the GDP to participate by consuming some of the products they labored so hard to produce. Remember, the American consumer helps drive the economy, and helps to create the wealth held in the hand of big Corporations, management, and super wealthy individuals, and the bulk of consumption
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Lee, How long do you think those with the highest income would continue to thrive in a country that did not have a strong military, a supreme court and justice system, a stable economy, law and order, and all the other services government provides? There you go again, using logic... I just spent a good part of yesterday making phone calls for the Obama campaign to registered Democrats in Ohio, to see if we could encourage them to get out to vote. A lot of people in Ohio have already voted. That was really encouraging. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Come on now, do you really think the Obamessiah would send American troops to help Israel? The Rev Jackson told a largely Arab audience that things will change under the Omans administration... and what's with the LA Times tape that they won't release that shows him cozying up with Hamas. As with most Omans supporters, you have to stop projecting your thoughts of change onto him. See what he is really up to... and it will scare the crap out of you. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:05:48 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work I think the USA needs an alliance/treaty with Israel that make it clear that aggression against Israel would be the same as aggression against the USA. I think Obama is a believer in Israel's sovereignty and a believer in the Israeli people. He would support/protect Israel against aggression, but a good dose of Obama diplomacy might avoid the need for people to raise arms against people. The diplomatic route should be the preferred way, and aggression only if there is no other way. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: The first thing Obama will do is give the green light to Iran to invade Israel while we stand by and let it happen. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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You call that logic? By raising taxes on the productive, revenues actually go DOWN. How's that for logic? * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 4:57 PM Lee, How long do you think those with the highest income would continue to thrive in a country that did not have a strong military, a supreme court and justice system, a stable economy, law and order, and all the other services government provides? There you go again, using logic... I just spent a good part of yesterday making phone calls for the Obama campaign to registered Democrats in Ohio, to see if we could encourage them to get out to vote. A lot of people in Ohio have already voted. That was really encouraging. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Yet 75% of Jews are voting for him. Whatever happened to Never Again? How soon will it take Obama to start building the Xyclon B Showers? * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 4:58 PM Come on now, do you really think the Obamessiah would send American troops to help Israel? The Rev Jackson told a largely Arab audience that things will change under the Omans administration... and what's with the LA Times tape that they won't release that shows him cozying up with Hamas. As with most Omans supporters, you have to stop projecting your thoughts of change onto him. See what he is really up to... and it will scare the crap out of you. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:05:48 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work I think the USA needs an alliance/treaty with Israel that make it clear that aggression against Israel would be the same as aggression against the USA. I think Obama is a believer in Israel's sovereignty and a believer in the Israeli people. He would support/protect Israel against aggression, but a good dose of Obama diplomacy might avoid the need for people to raise arms against people. The diplomatic route should be the preferred way, and aggression only if there is no other way. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: The first thing Obama will do is give the green light to Iran to invade Israel while we stand by and let it happen. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Are you suggesting we take a neo-conservative approach to these kinds of potential problems, and begin per-emptive war against the public school system to eliminate all possible future threats? As Senator John McCain put it in rhyme and rhythm; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb Iran, or as you might put it; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb public schools. LOL Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: If some parts of society were not falling apart, not breaking into a house would not be remarkable. So why is this such an accomplishment for public schools? They may not rob us today, but what about tomorrow when they vote for the govt to take our money to give to them, rather than stick a gun in our face and take it themselves. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Kristyne McDaniel To: 'ProFox Email List' Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 01:33:52 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work John, We home schooled our kids, so that means we paid taxes and didn't get the benefits. Sure you did. Think of all the kids that went to school during the day instead of robbing your house. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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The top 2-3% are already paying close to 50% of the taxes. How much do the greedy and selfish 97% want from them? If you have ever spent time around a wide range of people you will find that some of the poorest are the most mercenary. Beyond that, we ALL benefit from a safe and secure country and we only appreciate what we pay for ourselves. This is why those on the bottom levels of income can only whine about this country. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:33:33 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work How long do you think those with the highest income would continue to thrive in a country that did not have a strong military, a supreme court and justice system, a stable economy, law and order, and all the other services government provides? Those with the highest income, or those with a background coning from the wealthiest dynasties, have a lot more to lose than the average citizen, should government fail, or God forbid, fall in revolt, revolution, or war, from within or outside the USA, and a guy living on the streets could care less, so yes, those who have most should contribute most to the system. As the bible says, To whom much is given, much is expected. - Luke 12:48. Its time for the top 2% of the country to stop being so selfish and greedy, and start putting more back into the system. It's time to put country, and the American people, ahead of self, (eg selfish and greedy come to mind here). Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: The progressive tax system has served the tax lawyers and accountants well, as well as the members of congress who hold the keys to selecting winners and loosers in the system. Beyond that, I would beg to differ that those with more income get more from the govt. Those paying the least in taxes are riding free on all kinds of benefits that those with greater income don't get. Hence, just the idea of a progressive income tax is a redistributionist plan. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:08:21 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work A progressive income tax is not really giving my money away to someone else. Its about how much each person pays in income tax for government services received. Under a progressive income tax, the greater my income, the greater my contribution to the government, but then the greater my income, the greater the value of the government services I receive. This is only fair; since, the wealthiest individual receive more benefits from the government, than say someone working for a minimum wage that really doesn't have that much to lose. I've heard a lot of bitching and complaining about how complex and taxing the current system is with many calling for a flat tax where everybody pay a flat percentage of their income to Uncle Sam. The amount of tax paid under a flat tax increases as the income level of the individual increases, but the rate of tax remain the same based on the tax as a percentage of income. Well, let's really make thing simple and have everyone pay a flat $1,000 tax; period. Now wouldn't that be simple. There wouldn't even be a need to file an income tax return; since, the amount of income a person earned would not be relevant to the tax calculation. Under such a tax, the homeless guy who has zero income and Bill Gates who earns billions would both be required to pay $1,000 in taxes. With something over 300 million people in the USA, this would theoretically bring in about 3 trillion in tax revenue each year. See how simple it gets. However, is a flat amount tax fair? I'll answer my own question. It's not only unfair, it not a viable system and would quickly wreck our economy. Although a flat rate tax as a percentage of income is not as extreme as a flat amount tax, they are both unfair and difficult to administer; because, people in different income level have very different needs. I suppose an entire book could be written on this subject, including the concept of diminishing return as it applies to income level, but I don't have time to get into that today, but saying Senator Obama's tax plan is a tax give of anyones income by government distribution is not true. The progressive tax system in the USA has served Americans well over many, many, year, so why change a good thing. The Bush Administration change in tax policy adversely affected the USA economy to the point that America is now in a recession, and the Bush tax changes resulted in a economic stimulus package to returned millions of income tax dollars back to the American people, so they had enough reward in the GDP to participate by consuming some of the products they labored so hard to produce
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Madigan, You call that logic? By raising taxes on the productive, revenues actually go DOWN. You are completely full of crap, as usual. That supposition has been a load of crap ever since Reagan started it in 1980. If that scheme worked so well, then why has the debt gone way up under every republican president in the last 40 years, while under democrats the deficit declined every time (yes, even under Carter), and in Clinton's second term the debt itself actually decreased. There's a bogus argument floating around that says republicans are conservative. That's a load of crap. Real conservatives live within their means, and govern within their means. The bunch of idiots that have been running government for most of the last 40 years needs to find a new line of work. I hear the circus is always hiring. You want to see the best fiscal conservative in the last 40 years? Take a gander at the Clinton fiscal policies in the 1990's. Not one republican in that same time period even comes close as a fiscal conservative. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Are you suggesting that the public schools are so bad they should be bombed? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:48:49 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you suggesting we take a neo-conservative approach to these kinds of potential problems, and begin per-emptive war against the public school system to eliminate all possible future threats? As Senator John McCain put it in rhyme and rhythm; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb Iran, or as you might put it; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb public schools. LOL Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: If some parts of society were not falling apart, not breaking into a house would not be remarkable. So why is this such an accomplishment for public schools? They may not rob us today, but what about tomorrow when they vote for the govt to take our money to give to them, rather than stick a gun in our face and take it themselves. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Kristyne McDaniel To: 'ProFox Email List' Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 01:33:52 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work John, We home schooled our kids, so that means we paid taxes and didn't get the benefits. Sure you did. Think of all the kids that went to school during the day instead of robbing your house. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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I say make the deadbeats on the bottom pay taxes too. Why should some people not pay any taxes? * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:05 PM The top 2-3% are already paying close to 50% of the taxes. How much do the greedy and selfish 97% want from them? If you have ever spent time around a wide range of people you will find that some of the poorest are the most mercenary. Beyond that, we ALL benefit from a safe and secure country and we only appreciate what we pay for ourselves. This is why those on the bottom levels of income can only whine about this country. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:33:33 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work How long do you think those with the highest income would continue to thrive in a country that did not have a strong military, a supreme court and justice system, a stable economy, law and order, and all the other services government provides? Those with the highest income, or those with a background coning from the wealthiest dynasties, have a lot more to lose than the average citizen, should government fail, or God forbid, fall in revolt, revolution, or war, from within or outside the USA, and a guy living on the streets could care less, so yes, those who have most should contribute most to the system. As the bible says, To whom much is given, much is expected. - Luke 12:48. Its time for the top 2% of the country to stop being so selfish and greedy, and start putting more back into the system. It's time to put country, and the American people, ahead of self, (eg selfish and greedy come to mind here). Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: The progressive tax system has served the tax lawyers and accountants well, as well as the members of congress who hold the keys to selecting winners and loosers in the system. Beyond that, I would beg to differ that those with more income get more from the govt. Those paying the least in taxes are riding free on all kinds of benefits that those with greater income don't get. Hence, just the idea of a progressive income tax is a redistributionist plan. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:08:21 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work A progressive income tax is not really giving my money away to someone else. Its about how much each person pays in income tax for government services received. Under a progressive income tax, the greater my income, the greater my contribution to the government, but then the greater my income, the greater the value of the government services I receive. This is only fair; since, the wealthiest individual receive more benefits from the government, than say someone working for a minimum wage that really doesn't have that much to lose. I've heard a lot of bitching and complaining about how complex and taxing the current system is with many calling for a flat tax where everybody pay a flat percentage of their income to Uncle Sam. The amount of tax paid under a flat tax increases as the income level of the individual increases, but the rate of tax remain the same based on the tax as a percentage of income. Well, let's really make thing simple and have everyone pay a flat $1,000 tax; period. Now wouldn't that be simple. There wouldn't even be a need to file an income tax return; since, the amount of income a person earned would not be relevant to the tax calculation. Under such a tax, the homeless guy who has zero income and Bill Gates who earns billions would both be required to pay $1,000 in taxes. With something over 300 million people in the USA, this would theoretically bring in about 3 trillion in tax revenue each year. See how simple it gets. However, is a flat amount tax fair? I'll answer my own question. It's not only unfair, it not a viable system and would quickly wreck our economy. Although a flat rate tax as a percentage of income is not as extreme as a flat amount tax, they are both unfair and difficult to administer; because, people in different income level have very different needs. I suppose an entire book could be written on this subject, including the concept of diminishing return as it applies to income level, but I don't have time to get into that today, but saying Senator Obama's tax plan is a tax give
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/oct/31/usnews On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The top 2-3% are already paying close to 50% of the taxes. How much do the greedy and selfish 97% want from them? If you have ever spent time around a wide range of people you will find that some of the poorest are the most mercenary. Beyond that, we ALL benefit from a safe and secure country and we only appreciate what we pay for ourselves. This is why those on the bottom levels of income can only whine about this country. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:33:33 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work How long do you think those with the highest income would continue to thrive in a country that did not have a strong military, a supreme court and justice system, a stable economy, law and order, and all the other services government provides? Those with the highest income, or those with a background coning from the wealthiest dynasties, have a lot more to lose than the average citizen, should government fail, or God forbid, fall in revolt, revolution, or war, from within or outside the USA, and a guy living on the streets could care less, so yes, those who have most should contribute most to the system. As the bible says, To whom much is given, much is expected. - Luke 12:48. Its time for the top 2% of the country to stop being so selfish and greedy, and start putting more back into the system. It's time to put country, and the American people, ahead of self, (eg selfish and greedy come to mind here). Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: The progressive tax system has served the tax lawyers and accountants well, as well as the members of congress who hold the keys to selecting winners and loosers in the system. Beyond that, I would beg to differ that those with more income get more from the govt. Those paying the least in taxes are riding free on all kinds of benefits that those with greater income don't get. Hence, just the idea of a progressive income tax is a redistributionist plan. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:08:21 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work A progressive income tax is not really giving my money away to someone else. Its about how much each person pays in income tax for government services received. Under a progressive income tax, the greater my income, the greater my contribution to the government, but then the greater my income, the greater the value of the government services I receive. This is only fair; since, the wealthiest individual receive more benefits from the government, than say someone working for a minimum wage that really doesn't have that much to lose. I've heard a lot of bitching and complaining about how complex and taxing the current system is with many calling for a flat tax where everybody pay a flat percentage of their income to Uncle Sam. The amount of tax paid under a flat tax increases as the income level of the individual increases, but the rate of tax remain the same based on the tax as a percentage of income. Well, let's really make thing simple and have everyone pay a flat $1,000 tax; period. Now wouldn't that be simple. There wouldn't even be a need to file an income tax return; since, the amount of income a person earned would not be relevant to the tax calculation. Under such a tax, the homeless guy who has zero income and Bill Gates who earns billions would both be required to pay $1,000 in taxes. With something over 300 million people in the USA, this would theoretically bring in about 3 trillion in tax revenue each year. See how simple it gets. However, is a flat amount tax fair? I'll answer my own question. It's not only unfair, it not a viable system and would quickly wreck our economy. Although a flat rate tax as a percentage of income is not as extreme as a flat amount tax, they are both unfair and difficult to administer; because, people in different income level have very different needs. I suppose an entire book could be written on this subject, including the concept of diminishing return as it applies to income level, but I don't have time to get into that today, but saying Senator Obama's tax plan is a tax give of anyones income by government distribution is not true. The progressive tax system in the USA has served Americans well over many, many, year, so why change a good thing. The Bush Administration change in tax policy adversely affected the USA economy to the point that America is now in a recession, and the Bush tax changes resulted in a economic stimulus package to returned millions of income tax dollars back
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The debt went up because we didn't cut spending too. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:09 PM Madigan, You call that logic? By raising taxes on the productive, revenues actually go DOWN. You are completely full of crap, as usual. That supposition has been a load of crap ever since Reagan started it in 1980. If that scheme worked so well, then why has the debt gone way up under every republican president in the last 40 years, while under democrats the deficit declined every time (yes, even under Carter), and in Clinton's second term the debt itself actually decreased. There's a bogus argument floating around that says republicans are conservative. That's a load of crap. Real conservatives live within their means, and govern within their means. The bunch of idiots that have been running government for most of the last 40 years needs to find a new line of work. I hear the circus is always hiring. You want to see the best fiscal conservative in the last 40 years? Take a gander at the Clinton fiscal policies in the 1990's. Not one republican in that same time period even comes close as a fiscal conservative. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Uaaah, because they don't have any money? Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: I say make the deadbeats on the bottom pay taxes too. Why should some people not pay any taxes? * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:05 PM The top 2-3% are already paying close to 50% of the taxes. How much do the greedy and selfish 97% want from them? If you have ever spent time around a wide range of people you will find that some of the poorest are the most mercenary. Beyond that, we ALL benefit from a safe and secure country and we only appreciate what we pay for ourselves. This is why those on the bottom levels of income can only whine about this country. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:33:33 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work How long do you think those with the highest income would continue to thrive in a country that did not have a strong military, a supreme court and justice system, a stable economy, law and order, and all the other services government provides? Those with the highest income, or those with a background coning from the wealthiest dynasties, have a lot more to lose than the average citizen, should government fail, or God forbid, fall in revolt, revolution, or war, from within or outside the USA, and a guy living on the streets could care less, so yes, those who have most should contribute most to the system. As the bible says, To whom much is given, much is expected. - Luke 12:48. Its time for the top 2% of the country to stop being so selfish and greedy, and start putting more back into the system. It's time to put country, and the American people, ahead of self, (eg selfish and greedy come to mind here). Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: The progressive tax system has served the tax lawyers and accountants well, as well as the members of congress who hold the keys to selecting winners and loosers in the system. Beyond that, I would beg to differ that those with more income get more from the govt. Those paying the least in taxes are riding free on all kinds of benefits that those with greater income don't get. Hence, just the idea of a progressive income tax is a redistributionist plan. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:08:21 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work A progressive income tax is not really giving my money away to someone else. Its about how much each person pays in income tax for government services received. Under a progressive income tax, the greater my income, the greater my contribution to the government, but then the greater my income, the greater the value of the government services I receive. This is only fair; since, the wealthiest individual receive more benefits from the government, than say someone working for a minimum wage that really doesn't have that much to lose. I've heard a lot of bitching and complaining about how complex and taxing the current system is with many calling for a flat tax where everybody pay a flat percentage of their income to Uncle Sam. The amount of tax paid under a flat tax increases as the income level of the individual increases, but the rate of tax remain the same based on the tax as a percentage of income. Well, let's really make thing simple and have everyone pay a flat $1,000 tax; period. Now wouldn't that be simple. There wouldn't even be a need to file an income tax return; since, the amount of income a person earned would not be relevant to the tax calculation. Under such a tax, the homeless guy who has zero income and Bill Gates who earns billions would both be required to pay $1,000 in taxes. With something over 300 million people in the USA, this would theoretically bring in about 3 trillion in tax revenue each year. See how simple it gets. However, is a flat amount tax fair? I'll answer my own question. It's not only unfair, it not a viable system and would quickly wreck our economy. Although a flat rate tax as a percentage of income
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No one stopping that windbag from sending more money to the treasury. Let him put his money where his mouth is. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Helio Wakasugui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Helio Wakasugui [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:10 PM http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/oct/31/usnews On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The top 2-3% are already paying close to 50% of the taxes. How much do the greedy and selfish 97% want from them? If you have ever spent time around a wide range of people you will find that some of the poorest are the most mercenary. Beyond that, we ALL benefit from a safe and secure country and we only appreciate what we pay for ourselves. This is why those on the bottom levels of income can only whine about this country. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:33:33 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work How long do you think those with the highest income would continue to thrive in a country that did not have a strong military, a supreme court and justice system, a stable economy, law and order, and all the other services government provides? Those with the highest income, or those with a background coning from the wealthiest dynasties, have a lot more to lose than the average citizen, should government fail, or God forbid, fall in revolt, revolution, or war, from within or outside the USA, and a guy living on the streets could care less, so yes, those who have most should contribute most to the system. As the bible says, To whom much is given, much is expected. - Luke 12:48. Its time for the top 2% of the country to stop being so selfish and greedy, and start putting more back into the system. It's time to put country, and the American people, ahead of self, (eg selfish and greedy come to mind here). Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: The progressive tax system has served the tax lawyers and accountants well, as well as the members of congress who hold the keys to selecting winners and loosers in the system. Beyond that, I would beg to differ that those with more income get more from the govt. Those paying the least in taxes are riding free on all kinds of benefits that those with greater income don't get. Hence, just the idea of a progressive income tax is a redistributionist plan. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:08:21 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work A progressive income tax is not really giving my money away to someone else. Its about how much each person pays in income tax for government services received. Under a progressive income tax, the greater my income, the greater my contribution to the government, but then the greater my income, the greater the value of the government services I receive. This is only fair; since, the wealthiest individual receive more benefits from the government, than say someone working for a minimum wage that really doesn't have that much to lose. I've heard a lot of bitching and complaining about how complex and taxing the current system is with many calling for a flat tax where everybody pay a flat percentage of their income to Uncle Sam. The amount of tax paid under a flat tax increases as the income level of the individual increases, but the rate of tax remain the same based on the tax as a percentage of income. Well, let's really make thing simple and have everyone pay a flat $1,000 tax; period. Now wouldn't that be simple. There wouldn't even be a need to file an income tax return; since, the amount of income a person earned would not be relevant to the tax calculation. Under such a tax, the homeless guy who has zero income and Bill Gates who earns billions would both be required to pay $1,000 in taxes. With something over 300 million people in the USA, this would theoretically bring in about 3 trillion in tax revenue each year. See how simple it gets. However, is a flat amount tax fair? I'll answer my own question. It's not only unfair, it not a viable system and would quickly wreck our economy. Although a flat rate tax as a percentage of income is not as extreme as a flat amount tax, they are both unfair and difficult to administer; because, people in different income level have very different needs. I suppose an entire book could be written
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Madigan, I say make the deadbeats on the bottom pay taxes too. Why should some people not pay any taxes? Again, another load of crap from you. They pay payroll taxes, sales taxes, property taxes (yes, as renters too), car registration taxes, and local fees for other types of services. In most years, I pay a lower tax rate than folks that earn all their money as wages because capital gains, dividends, and so forth are taxed at a lower rate, plus the fact that I only pay payroll tax on what I pay myself in salary. The rest is only taxed as dividends. The so-called 'deadbeats' you refer to pay FICA on every single dollar they take in. I, and most likely you, do not. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Regarding your statement below, when was support for public education a form of robbery? Do you really think funding public education is a form of robbery, and if so, what are you implying should be done. They, (eg clear reference to public schools), may not rob us today, but what about tomorrow when they vote for the govt to take our money to give to them, rather than stick a gun in our face and take it themselves. Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: Are you suggesting that the public schools are so bad they should be bombed? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:48:49 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you suggesting we take a neo-conservative approach to these kinds of potential problems, and begin per-emptive war against the public school system to eliminate all possible future threats? As Senator John McCain put it in rhyme and rhythm; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb Iran, or as you might put it; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb public schools. LOL Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: If some parts of society were not falling apart, not breaking into a house would not be remarkable. So why is this such an accomplishment for public schools? They may not rob us today, but what about tomorrow when they vote for the govt to take our money to give to them, rather than stick a gun in our face and take it themselves. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Kristyne McDaniel To: 'ProFox Email List' Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 01:33:52 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work John, We home schooled our kids, so that means we paid taxes and didn't get the benefits. Sure you did. Think of all the kids that went to school during the day instead of robbing your house. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Madigan, The debt went up because we didn't cut spending too. Again, a load of crap. There were massive spending cuts in programs and even more massive increases in military spending. During Reagan's administration I worked for a defense contractor on the Strategic Defense Initiative. The military budget was so awash with cash that it was being thrown around to attract engineers and scientists. I was personally getting wined and dined as an engineer, and attended functions in the governor's mansions, high class hotels, and you name it. The REPUBLICANS jacked up those funds for weapons, and once they were manufactured they sat in 'mothballs' in the deserts of California and Arizona. I was there. I saw them. My salary was paid with the obscene waste in the Reagan administration. But at the same time, funding was cut to the school lunch programs (ketchup was a vegetable, remember?), head start, support for indigent pregnant women, Pell grants for college students... Just so we could put more Tomahawk cruise missiles in piles in the desert. THAT is why I am a Democrat. I can't STAND the republican waste, fraud, and abuse. They are absolutely horrible stewards of our tax money. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Madigan, No one stopping that windbag from sending more money to the treasury. Let him put his money where his mouth is. Yes, because if your money was to be used, they'd need a plumber's snake to pull it out of your ass... It is so far up there you've forgotten you even have it. Kristyne ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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It is a form of robery when someone has to pay for lousy schools. * --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:10 PM Regarding your statement below, when was support for public education a form of robbery? Do you really think funding public education is a form of robbery, and if so, what are you implying should be done. They, (eg clear reference to public schools), may not rob us today, but what about tomorrow when they vote for the govt to take our money to give to them, rather than stick a gun in our face and take it themselves. Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: Are you suggesting that the public schools are so bad they should be bombed? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:48:49 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you suggesting we take a neo-conservative approach to these kinds of potential problems, and begin per-emptive war against the public school system to eliminate all possible future threats? As Senator John McCain put it in rhyme and rhythm; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb Iran, or as you might put it; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb public schools. LOL Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: If some parts of society were not falling apart, not breaking into a house would not be remarkable. So why is this such an accomplishment for public schools? They may not rob us today, but what about tomorrow when they vote for the govt to take our money to give to them, rather than stick a gun in our face and take it themselves. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Kristyne McDaniel To: 'ProFox Email List' Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 01:33:52 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work John, We home schooled our kids, so that means we paid taxes and didn't get the benefits. Sure you did. Think of all the kids that went to school during the day instead of robbing your house. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: I think the USA needs an alliance/treaty with Israel that make it clear that aggression against Israel would be the same as aggression against the USA. I think Obama is a believer in Israel's sovereignty and a believer in the Israeli people. He would support/protect Israel against aggression, but a good dose of Obama diplomacy might avoid the need for people to raise arms against people. The diplomatic route should be the preferred way, and aggression only if there is no other way. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: The first thing Obama will do is give the green light to Iran to invade Israel while we stand by and let it happen. Hey lads! Pay attention to Mikey! He is inside Obama's secret cabinet and can tell you what are his plans for the world. Nobody knows, but Mikey will tell you exactly how it will be. He reads tea leaves like a charm (yup, a charm. He's a big old sissy). ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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The FICA is for their social security. Sales tax is for state and local governments. Property tax is for local governments and schools. They're not paying a nickel for national defense or any other federal Government program. They should pay just like everyone else. Otherwise get the hell out of my country. * --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:22 PM Madigan, I say make the deadbeats on the bottom pay taxes too. Why should some people not pay any taxes? Again, another load of crap from you. They pay payroll taxes, sales taxes, property taxes (yes, as renters too), car registration taxes, and local fees for other types of services. In most years, I pay a lower tax rate than folks that earn all their money as wages because capital gains, dividends, and so forth are taxed at a lower rate, plus the fact that I only pay payroll tax on what I pay myself in salary. The rest is only taxed as dividends. The so-called 'deadbeats' you refer to pay FICA on every single dollar they take in. I, and most likely you, do not. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Why should I pay for some deadbeat kid's lunch? Why should I pay someone to go to college? How dare you use my money for your social feel-good crap. --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:28 PM Madigan, The debt went up because we didn't cut spending too. Again, a load of crap. There were massive spending cuts in programs and even more massive increases in military spending. During Reagan's administration I worked for a defense contractor on the Strategic Defense Initiative. The military budget was so awash with cash that it was being thrown around to attract engineers and scientists. I was personally getting wined and dined as an engineer, and attended functions in the governor's mansions, high class hotels, and you name it. The REPUBLICANS jacked up those funds for weapons, and once they were manufactured they sat in 'mothballs' in the deserts of California and Arizona. I was there. I saw them. My salary was paid with the obscene waste in the Reagan administration. But at the same time, funding was cut to the school lunch programs (ketchup was a vegetable, remember?), head start, support for indigent pregnant women, Pell grants for college students... Just so we could put more Tomahawk cruise missiles in piles in the desert. THAT is why I am a Democrat. I can't STAND the republican waste, fraud, and abuse. They are absolutely horrible stewards of our tax money. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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You really are a fine debater. No wonder you're voting for Obama, the candidate of the no-logic crowd. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:30 PM Madigan, No one stopping that windbag from sending more money to the treasury. Let him put his money where his mouth is. Yes, because if your money was to be used, they'd need a plumber's snake to pull it out of your ass... It is so far up there you've forgotten you even have it. Kristyne ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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I don't think using the word robbery in the context of funding public education is the right word, regardless of quality of a particular school. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: It is a form of robery when someone has to pay for lousy schools. * --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:10 PM Regarding your statement below, when was support for public education a form of robbery? Do you really think funding public education is a form of robbery, and if so, what are you implying should be done. They, (eg clear reference to public schools), may not rob us today, but what about tomorrow when they vote for the govt to take our money to give to them, rather than stick a gun in our face and take it themselves. Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: Are you suggesting that the public schools are so bad they should be bombed? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA To: ProFox Email List Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:48:49 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Are you suggesting we take a neo-conservative approach to these kinds of potential problems, and begin per-emptive war against the public school system to eliminate all possible future threats? As Senator John McCain put it in rhyme and rhythm; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb Iran, or as you might put it; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb public schools. LOL Regards, LelandJ Larry Miller wrote: If some parts of society were not falling apart, not breaking into a house would not be remarkable. So why is this such an accomplishment for public schools? They may not rob us today, but what about tomorrow when they vote for the govt to take our money to give to them, rather than stick a gun in our face and take it themselves. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Kristyne McDaniel To: 'ProFox Email List' Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 01:33:52 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work John, We home schooled our kids, so that means we paid taxes and didn't get the benefits. Sure you did. Think of all the kids that went to school during the day instead of robbing your house. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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When you toast terrorists in public it doesn't take a psychic to figure out how you're going to behave. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 6:38 PM Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: I think the USA needs an alliance/treaty with Israel that make it clear that aggression against Israel would be the same as aggression against the USA. I think Obama is a believer in Israel's sovereignty and a believer in the Israeli people. He would support/protect Israel against aggression, but a good dose of Obama diplomacy might avoid the need for people to raise arms against people. The diplomatic route should be the preferred way, and aggression only if there is no other way. Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: The first thing Obama will do is give the green light to Iran to invade Israel while we stand by and let it happen. Hey lads! Pay attention to Mikey! He is inside Obama's secret cabinet and can tell you what are his plans for the world. Nobody knows, but Mikey will tell you exactly how it will be. He reads tea leaves like a charm (yup, a charm. He's a big old sissy). ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Are you suggesting we take a neo-conservative approach to these kinds of potential problems, and begin per-emptive war against the public school system to eliminate all possible future threats? As Senator John McCain put it in rhyme and rhythm; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb Iran, or as you might put it; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb public schools. LOL Regards, LelandJ Leland, when somebody thinks that you are his ENEMY when you vote different than he does there is no possible dialog. He'll only understand force. So just beat him in the election and then he'll have the government forces (that is the police, such as our friend John) MAKING him behave civilized. Larry Miller wrote: If some parts of society were not falling apart, not breaking into a house would not be remarkable. So why is this such an accomplishment for public schools? They may not rob us today, but what about tomorrow when they vote for the govt to take our money to give to them, rather than stick a gun in our face and take it themselves. Larry Miller ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Madigan, It is a form of robery when someone has to pay for lousy schools. If you want to pay only for good schools, it will cost you more. Are you too stupid to realize a good school requires more funding than a lousy one? Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Madigan, Why should I pay for some deadbeat kid's lunch? Why should I pay someone to go to college? Where did you go to college? I went to the University of Minnesota, which is a public college. Unless you went to a private university and paid your own way, shut your pie hole. Kristyne ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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You could try to succeed form union and form your own government. Is it against the USA constitution for states to succeed form the union, but perhaps an individual can. Regards, LelandJ Is it against our constitution for states to /succeed from the union/ Michael Madigan wrote: Why should I pay for some deadbeat kid's lunch? Why should I pay someone to go to college? How dare you use my money for your social feel-good crap. --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:28 PM Madigan, The debt went up because we didn't cut spending too. Again, a load of crap. There were massive spending cuts in programs and even more massive increases in military spending. During Reagan's administration I worked for a defense contractor on the Strategic Defense Initiative. The military budget was so awash with cash that it was being thrown around to attract engineers and scientists. I was personally getting wined and dined as an engineer, and attended functions in the governor's mansions, high class hotels, and you name it. The REPUBLICANS jacked up those funds for weapons, and once they were manufactured they sat in 'mothballs' in the deserts of California and Arizona. I was there. I saw them. My salary was paid with the obscene waste in the Reagan administration. But at the same time, funding was cut to the school lunch programs (ketchup was a vegetable, remember?), head start, support for indigent pregnant women, Pell grants for college students... Just so we could put more Tomahawk cruise missiles in piles in the desert. THAT is why I am a Democrat. I can't STAND the republican waste, fraud, and abuse. They are absolutely horrible stewards of our tax money. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Are you too stupid to realize that Washington DC spends $11,000 per student and they still suck? I guess you are that stupid. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:42 PM Madigan, It is a form of robery when someone has to pay for lousy schools. If you want to pay only for good schools, it will cost you more. Are you too stupid to realize a good school requires more funding than a lousy one? Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Leland, You could try to succeed form union and form your own government. Is it against the USA constitution for states to succeed form the union, but perhaps an individual can. He can buy his own island. Hopefully one with no internet access. Kristyne ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Come on, who else would put up with your silly rants? LOL * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 6:14 PM Leland, You could try to succeed form union and form your own government. Is it against the USA constitution for states to succeed form the union, but perhaps an individual can. He can buy his own island. Hopefully one with no internet access. Kristyne ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Leland, You could try to succeed form union and form your own government. Is it against the USA constitution for states to succeed form the union, but perhaps an individual can. He can buy his own island. Hopefully one with no internet access. Kristyne HaHaaHa. Then we wouldn't have Michael to kick around anymore. Michael has his moments, so I'd miss him. Regards, LelandJ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Thanks Leland. I'd miss you too. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 6:19 PM Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Leland, You could try to succeed form union and form your own government. Is it against the USA constitution for states to succeed form the union, but perhaps an individual can. He can buy his own island. Hopefully one with no internet access. Kristyne HaHaaHa. Then we wouldn't have Michael to kick around anymore. Michael has his moments, so I'd miss him. Regards, LelandJ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Bobby Kennedy was killed by Sirhan Sirhan. Bill Ayers dedicated his book Prairie Fire to Sirhan Sirhan. Obama pals around with Bill Ayers. Yet the Kennedy's are kissing Obama's big black ass. I don't get it. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 6:35 PM Many Rs have lost sight of their conservative heritage and that is why we have the problems we do. Have you not heard that Saint JFK also increased revenue by cutting taxes. He would not recognize the D party of today. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Kristyne McDaniel To: 'ProFox Email List' Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:09:31 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work Madigan, You call that logic? By raising taxes on the productive, revenues actually go DOWN. You are completely full of crap, as usual. That supposition has been a load of crap ever since Reagan started it in 1980. If that scheme worked so well, then why has the debt gone way up under every republican president in the last 40 years, while under democrats the deficit declined every time (yes, even under Carter), and in Clinton's second term the debt itself actually decreased. There's a bogus argument floating around that says republicans are conservative. That's a load of crap. Real conservatives live within their means, and govern within their means. The bunch of idiots that have been running government for most of the last 40 years needs to find a new line of work. I hear the circus is always hiring. You want to see the best fiscal conservative in the last 40 years? Take a gander at the Clinton fiscal policies in the 1990's. Not one republican in that same time period even comes close as a fiscal conservative. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: A progressive income tax is not really giving my money away to someone else. Its about how much each person pays in income tax for government services received. Under a progressive income tax, the greater my income, the greater my contribution to the government, but then the greater my income, the greater the value of the government services I receive. Hi Leland! Oh, for heaven's sake! Who told you that? Maybe your public school teacher? It isn't at all true. The government services are provided to persons who are below income guidelines, and the guidelines are so low that you starve very quickly trying to qualify. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Michael Madigan wrote: The first thing Obama will do is give the green light to Iran to invade Israel while we stand by and let it happen. Hi Michael! I think Israel would kick Iran's butt. Think of a huge nuclear accident, possibly before Bush leaves office. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: I think the USA needs an alliance/treaty with Israel that make it clear that aggression against Israel would be the same as aggression against the USA. I think Obama is a believer in Israel's sovereignty Hi Leland! Nonsense. Obama believes in his only pleasure and convenience and nothing else. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Obama is committed to doing everything in his power to curb Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, and Obama is committed to a stable, peaceful middle east. The idea that Obama is a terrorist, or of the Islamic Religion, or has some kind of extremist agenda Hi Leland! Just admit it, you think he is cute, and trendy - a rock star. He has no policy other than saying whatever it takes to get people to vote for him. He also thinks you bitterly cling to guns and religion. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Are you suggesting we take a neo-conservative approach to these kinds of potential problems, and begin per-emptive war against the public school system to eliminate all possible future threats? As Senator John McCain put it in rhyme and rhythm; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb Iran, or as you might put it; Bomb, Bomb, Bomb -- Bomb Bomb public schools. LOL Hi Leland! More crap. With the slightest encouragement Israel wil bomb Iran for us. As for the public schools, the voucher system will finish them off in a jiffy, or make them straighten up and fly right. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work
You better sell your house and move, I betcha he gives Texas back to the Mexicans. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 7:08 PM Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Obama is committed to doing everything in his power to curb Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, and Obama is committed to a stable, peaceful middle east. The idea that Obama is a terrorist, or of the Islamic Religion, or has some kind of extremist agenda Hi Leland! Just admit it, you think he is cute, and trendy - a rock star. He has no policy other than saying whatever it takes to get people to vote for him. He also thinks you bitterly cling to guns and religion. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
